Bud Black Interested in Managing Job

by LosAngel on Oct 12, 2006 10:18 PM PDT

In today's L.A. Times:

No God!!!! Please take Hatcher instead!!!

Seriously, this would be a huge loss. I give Stoneman a lot of credit for picking up mediocre or undervalued pitchers who perform well for the Angels, but Bud probably deserves a lot of credit, if not most. Conversly, Stoneman seems to struggle picking up hitters, however Hatcher probably deserves a large part of the blame. We cannot afford to lose the leader of the most consistent part of our ballclub over the last several years.

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San Diego?!?!

Black's name has been mentioned in connection with the Giants' opening, but I read today that the Padres have given Bruce Bochy permission to talk to other teams about their openings.

If Bochy were to move on, San Diego would be a perfect fit (at least from Buddy's perspective). He actually lives in San Diego County; his desire to remain close to home (and his kids) was cited as a motivating factor in his decision not to pursue managerial openings in east coast and mid-west cities.

by jjackflash on Oct 12, 2006 10:53 PM PDT reply actions

How embarrassing for Bochy

Most teams don't allow sideways interview requests, only upwards ones (from a coaching position to a managerial one, for instance, or from the minors to a major league coaching/managing position). There's no other way than to read this as a vote of no-confidence in Bochy.

Fire Mickey Hatcher. An entire generation of Angels offense depends upon it.

by scareduck on Oct 13, 2006 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions

Go To Bleed Cubbe Blue...

...if you haven't already. They're all over the Bochy topic. It's surprsing how many people there don't want him and prefer Joe Girardi instead.

Sandy Alderson is asserting himself in San Diego and has very recently said he wants a manager who thinks like he does, i.e. he wants someone who worships at the sabremetrics altar. I wouldn't be at all surprised if both Towers and Bochy are let go if they don't find other jobs first. This would clear the way for DePodesta to DeConstruct yet another N.L. West team, and also very possibly hire Terry Collins, which is what he was about to do when McCourt canned him. Unless Bud Black thinks like Alderson, he's got no shot at the San Diego job.

by beercub @ Halos Heaven on Oct 13, 2006 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions

DePodesta

I still don't think McCourt gave DePodesta a fair chance in LA. The more flexible payroll gave him less margin for error it seemed.

A pipeline of talent, welcome to Anaheim.

by ClutchHomer on Oct 13, 2006 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Dodger fans loved him

Therefore, I hated him. I was glad to see him go, just to hear my Dodger fan friends whine about it.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 13, 2006 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Dodger Fans Loved Him?

Really? Not the ones I know. The guy decimated that team, actually thinking he could build around Hee Sop Choi. In 2004 he inherited a team that went on to have the best record in the N.L. at the trade deadline. He makes his infamous trade, they limp to the playoffs. 2005 they lose 91 games. This is the guy who gave a multi-year deal to J.(ust) D.(isabled) Drew. Why and how is DePodesta well regarded? Dodgers fans should be thanking their chosen deity for Ned Colletti.

by beercub @ Halos Heaven on Oct 13, 2006 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions

I should say "pre-trade"

I didn't hear much about him post trade, but a collection of dodger friends I had ran a column in their university newspaper called "in depo we trust", and ran it under that title, regardless of subject, for several months. they got alot of positive feedback on it, but that's the limit of my experience on that.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 13, 2006 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Build around Hee Seop Choi?

Show me where DePodesta said that... Choi was a nice throw-in on the trade that brought Brad Penny to the team. Penny has to be understood as the main thing the Dodgers got...

Fire Mickey Hatcher. An entire generation of Angels offense depends upon it.

by scareduck on Oct 13, 2006 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions

DePo

Hee Seop might actually be OK against RHP when healthy, and that was all that was ever expected of him.
GM's effect often takes a few years to become apparent. I feel the 2004 division title was more the work of the previous GM, and the 2006 division title actually had DePo's fingerprints all over it. The awesome Dodger farm system is in part DePo, nothing to do with Coletti who is pissing it away.
DePo was not given a fair shake, they should have let him serve out his deal to really know if he was any good. I am not aware of any truly awful deals he made, nor any really good ones (maybe Milton Bradley). Not giving Beltre all the cash sure looks good, lots of other GM's would have in LA.
He did seem to not pay enough attention to which way the wind was blowing. I'll bet he never considered that the idiots responsible for his firing could do it. The one bad move in this regard seems to be dumping Shawn Green. He was super popular in LA, and they got nothing for him, they should have just let him play out his deal.
We'll see how the Padres go to get more of a sense if Paul D. is any good, and I suspect he is.

by elricsi on Oct 14, 2006 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions