Angels won the bid for Matsuzaka

the other two yucksters took that offhanded comment. If that were real, so far it would be the biggest news in baseball today. And they let it die a quick death.

But hey, it felt pretty damn good there for a minute or two!!!

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by Stirrups on Nov 9, 2006 4:10 PM PST up reply actions

It was a Boston Red Sox show...

and we all know they don't care about anything but their Sox. Sort of like ESPN if you add the Yankees.

by akathelorax @ Halos Heaven on Nov 9, 2006 4:16 PM PST up reply actions

TEASE!

hey buddy, beware of false advertising in your headline, huh?

"The last time we got in a fight, we won the Series," Lackey said. "I'll be OK with that. Let's get it rolling."

by atomburn on Nov 9, 2006 4:00 PM PST reply actions

Tim Mead email...

My email to Tim Mead:

"Someone on Angelswin.com is reporting seeing footage from Boston saying the Angels won the bidding for Daisuke Matsuzaka.

Is this true?"

========

Tim Mead's response:

"Nothing new to report as of yet."

by Barry on Nov 9, 2006 4:11 PM PST reply actions

Notice he didn't say

we didn't bid. His cryptic response leads me to believe they did which means we at least have a chance. All the reports had us out of the bidding. We'll see.

DarkAngel hath spoken....

by darkangel01 on Nov 9, 2006 8:24 PM PST up reply actions

The Eastern Sports & Propaganda Network has been squawking all week about how the NY teams and Rangers were all going to be in the bidding. Not even a mention of the Angels, although it seemed pretty obvious to me that they'd at least submit a bid. After all, Arte's got the bucks. The rationale for signing him is the same for signing Zito: so the team can trade a cheap starter (Santana or Saunders) for a major upgrade on offense.

If this is indeed true, it's just another example of how (IMHO) the Angels, and Bill Stoneman in particular, go about doing things the right way. Silently but effectively. Nobody expected them to sign Colon, but they did. They didn't make big noise about signing Myspacecobar, either, and the Vlad signing shocked the entire baseball world.

by jjackflash on Nov 9, 2006 9:17 PM PST up reply actions

2 things

First, why would Stoneman comment on bidding? That would only increase the attention dice k is getting, and likely increase the posting bid. If the Mets, Yankees et al knew we were in, that might up the ante.

Second, MLB told teams to not comment one way or the other a day or so back. Doing so would be going against the commish. The Mariner comment was prior to the directive.

The only person that has said one way or the other was the Hud-Dog, and he is not an employee of Angels Baseball (LLC).

It's a well known fact that if you try to take apart a cat to see how it works one of the first things you have on your hands is a non-working cat

by ineptituderunsamok on Nov 9, 2006 9:52 PM PST up reply actions

Dice K

Wow, someone who actually knows how to pronounce Daisuke!!! Most people say Die-Sookey. Congrats!

What did Hud say by the way???

DarkAngel hath spoken....

by darkangel01 on Nov 9, 2006 9:59 PM PST up reply actions

I heard

(second hand) that he confirmed the Angels were in on the bid. The Times also has an article out today saying that a club official reported the same on condition of anonymity.

Olney suggested today that the BlowSox have bid as high as 40M! If they are willing to pay that much just for the bid, they're welcome to him. I have never heard Buster Olney be correct (about anything) before though, so who knows.

It's a well known fact that if you try to take apart a cat to see how it works one of the first things you have on your hands is a non-working cat

by ineptituderunsamok on Nov 10, 2006 12:37 PM PST up reply actions

The Angels also bowed out early

when Vlad was on the auction block, and they came in at the last second to swoop him up.

Fire Mickey Hatcher. An entire generation of Angels offense depends upon it.

by scareduck on Nov 10, 2006 11:21 AM PST up reply actions

We'll know soon enough...

It is just after 9am Friday in Japan right now.

by akathelorax @ Halos Heaven on Nov 9, 2006 4:11 PM PST reply actions

Sorry, this was copied from Angels Win

not my email, some other poster...

by Barry on Nov 9, 2006 4:12 PM PST reply actions

Buster Olney

is reporting that the BoSox may have won the rights to negotiate with the kid pitcher, putting up a sum between $38 to $45 mil.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2656687

by G Abbes on Nov 10, 2006 10:21 AM PST reply actions

Now that is just stupid money.

By today's standards, anyway. But sometimes it's smart poker to bluff your way through a losing hand just to bleed the resources of a key opponent. If the Red Sox want to take $40 mill off their table in the rest of the market, that's fine by me.

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by Stirrups on Nov 10, 2006 10:42 AM PST up reply actions

Not sure that is true

The revenue generated by selling the rights to televise the most popular pitcher in the country will more than make up for it.

Trade for Wells, sign Aramis and say hello to the 2007 World Series Champions.

by hauldog on Nov 10, 2006 10:49 AM PST up reply actions

I'd be interested in seeng that analysis

Sure, any value in media dollars for such a signing would be in the increased media revenues, but I cannot imagine that Boston has left domestic media market dollars on the table anywhere.

Boston does not have a pre-existing affinity with Japan ala Seattle, nor do they have the natural tourist draw for the Japanese such as Rodeo Drive or Park Avenue. So I would be hard-pressed to think that it would be a gate boost or tourist draws from the Japanese themselves.

This leaves TV broadcast rights back to Japan. Considering the time delta, I dunno. Sure, some interest in Red Sox versus Yankees or Red Sox versus Mariners. But after that, think of all those games against Tampa Bay and Toronto and Baltimore they will play, which would have little or no appeal to the Japanese TV market.

Then, since Boston is a major market team, you have to consider what they might have to pay to the Oaklands of the world, somewhat draining the gains.

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by Stirrups on Nov 10, 2006 12:49 PM PST up reply actions

Well.....

I was not claiming this had anything to do with domestic media revenues.

They sell out every game so I was not even trying to claim a gate boost.
Signing their most popular pitcher/player can create an affinity awfully fast.
A Japanese television station would pay for the rights to broadcast their games, not just certain games so who cares about "all those games against Tampa Bay and Toronto and Baltimore they will play, which would have little or no appeal to the Japanese TV market." Mariner and Yankee games are regularly broadcast live and replayed in Japan.
You fail to mention the value of appreciation of their brand name. Having a marque Japanese player would increase their visibility in Japan and all of Asia. This by the way is huge, and will impact how all future players and fans view the franchise.
Have you ever been to Safeco? There are advertisements in Japanese all over the outfield walls and other places that receive airtime. I will also point out the Mariners (In Seattle)are in the top five 5 of media revenue generated. I am sure that the Japanese television, radio and advertisement contracts have something to do with it.

Trade for Wells, sign Aramis and say hello to the 2007 World Series Champions.

by hauldog on Nov 10, 2006 1:12 PM PST up reply actions

We are still not far apart.

I just don't see how you are interpreting the same information so differently than I am.

Seattle had a pre-existing affinity with Japan long before the Mariners came about. Japanese ownership boosted interest in the Mariners. Ichiro nailed it. Johjima is adding to it. Boston has none of that in their favor, and would be jumping directly to the last state of affairs by signing a Japanese star. I would not equate Boston's prospects with Seattle's success. I would be more inclined to believe that there will be a huge gap between the two. And with a $40mill rights fee added to the Boras player contract, there would be anything between $50-$100mill to earn back over the next 3-5 years.

New York is one of the top 5 cities in all of civilization. A major media magnet unto itself. A fashion mecca. Headquarters to many multinationals with coverage throughout Asia. And then they sign Matsui. Boston's got none of that. So, again, it would be hard for me to equate Boston's prospects with New York's success. (Plus, for heaven's sake, it's the Yankees. They are a natural media draw in any country with an interest in baseball. It didn't require Matsui to deliver the Yankees to Japan.)

I am not saying that there would be zero boost. I am saying that I do not feel that the boost of Seattle or the Yankees would be acheived by Boston signing this kid, and a rights fee of $40 million is pretty steep to make up form a fanchise that is probably pretty strong with their medai revenues already.

If, as a major market team, they did not share any of this new revenue, they would pretty much need a 5-year TV deal for $100 million out of Asia alone, just to break even. And that's a market that already has Seattle and New York present. Not saying it cannot be done, just doubtful...

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by Stirrups on Nov 10, 2006 1:43 PM PST up reply actions

Your first mistake

is throwing the cost of the player contract into this analysis. That has no bearing on it. The players are paid to play, and that money pays for the expected production on the field.

You are making Boston seem like it is in KC. Boston is a thriving metropolis in its own right and to say there are not any multinational corps located there is ridiculous.

Not to mention you completely ignore any appreciation to one of the most important assets they possess: Their name brand, and its recognition the increased visibility is worth a lot moentary and intangibly.

"a rights fee of $40 million is pretty steep to make up form a fanchise that is probably pretty strong with their medai revenues already." Dude it opens up NEW revenue streams so pre existing streams really aren't involved in this discussion.

Advertisement dollars on the otherhand should be. I think the increased pool of people desiring to have their products advertised on the OF walls, behind home would increase these dollars in the short and long run.

Trade for Wells, sign Aramis and say hello to the 2007 World Series Champions.

by hauldog on Nov 10, 2006 2:11 PM PST up reply actions

You and I are just blowing hot air at one another.

The future will prove out.

I disagree with your reduction of my statements, and will just leave it alone.

I will, however, acknowledge that, indeed, saying that Boston has no multi-nationals is an unfortunate consequence of hyperbole in my paragraph construction. Sure they have multi-nationals. Shit, Wichita has multi-nationals. Santa Ana has multi-nationals. But if I asked 1000 Japanese if they knew New York and 1000 others if they knew Boston, what do you think the results would be? Duh. That's a large hill to climb if one expects to get the same value out of Matsuzaka that the Yankees get out of Matsui. And that is why I discount the Yankees as an accurate comparison.

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by Stirrups on Nov 10, 2006 3:51 PM PST up reply actions

Hot air maybe

but you completely ignore my main points in both posts.

Futhermore do you think these teams throw darts at a dart board to pick their posts or utilize the skills of economists and financial analysts to project revenue increase, advertising increasing, etc.?

I am sure you are right the bid was a completely arbitratry number w/o regard to any financial considerations. I guess they just want him that badly.

Trade for Wells, sign Aramis and say hello to the 2007 World Series Champions.

by hauldog on Nov 10, 2006 4:06 PM PST up reply actions

That dog, was 'cuz

my points were the ones on the table in our thread, and we couldn't communicate well enough to close those. So I never made it to your points.

I think that the Mickey Hatchers of the world throw darts. The Mike Scioscias of the world study the dart board for the best targets to throw darts at. The Bill Stonemans of the world study dart boards in general, looking for the game that gets them the best chance of winning with the darts he has in his hand. And the Arte Morenos of the world don't even know what darts are. They use lasers.

As for the Red Sox, I think that their equation of what is in their best interest includes too much "Trump The Yankees". The Red Sox would be perfectly happy being tagged as the bigger idiot if it meant keeping Matsuzaka off the front pages and starting rotation of New York.

From the Yankees perspective, if the story is true then, matched with the Detroit deal, they now have three good pitching prospects they can groom or deal, salary to play with, AND 100 million fewer reasons to worry about the Red Sox in the marketplace. Not bad for a day's work.

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by Stirrups on Nov 10, 2006 5:10 PM PST up reply actions

From the Yanks perspective?

They are just as bad if not worse than the Sox. From their perspective they got punked if he is a Red Suck. See Jose Contreras anbd the Yankees pursuit of him.

I will take DM over Humberto Sanchez and two Class A players anyday.

There is not any MLB ready pitching for the Yanks to get, the reason they have not won since 2000 is PITCHING. So I think they are not going to be as refreshed by the outcome of todays events as you seem to think.

By the way if there is anyone who does not care about 100mil it is the Yanks.

Trade for Wells, sign Aramis and say hello to the 2007 World Series Champions.

by hauldog on Nov 10, 2006 5:31 PM PST up reply actions

One Billboard in Japanese

behind home plate during D-Mat's home starts would pay off that finders fee for ANY team that sent the dough Seibu's way.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 10, 2006 5:32 PM PST up reply actions

Agreed

Amen.

Trade for Wells, sign Aramis and say hello to the 2007 World Series Champions.

by hauldog on Nov 10, 2006 5:34 PM PST up reply actions

You guys just pull this stuff outta yer ass...

Read this. Page 3.

MLB signs broadcast deals for MLB games in Japan, not individual teams. So that revenue is SHARED.
And that deal is already DONE. It's only $275 million and covers 6 years, signed in 2004.

Licensing fees should increase, but in 2003 the TOTAL was $40 million and, again, that was SHARED revenue. (Page 3)

Somewhere on the Internet I will find some reference to how much a team pays the KC Royals for a billboard behind home plate. It will just take a lot longer....

It is also interesting to note that Siebu will gain revenue increases, because Japanese fans continue to associate
star power with his original team (page 12).

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by Stirrups on Nov 10, 2006 11:27 PM PST up reply actions

Funny thing

How Hideki Matsui and Japanese language billboards both appeared in Yankee Stadium the same season.

...and in other news 2 plus 2 equals 4.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 11, 2006 12:02 AM PST up reply actions

What's THAT got to do with it?

Of course the ads exploit the opportunity. That is NOT in question. What IS in question is whether or not such activities would warrant a $45 million expenditure?

Hey, maybe it would! All I asked was to see the financials. So far, what has been offered includes a big chunk (TV broadcast revenue to Asia) that turns out to be wrong.

Unless we could figure out how it might be done, the Red Sox would appear to us to be tying up precious financial resources just for the opportunity to tie up significant payroll budget to have a kid who will win 23 games per year instead of some other kid winning 13. And maybe that commitment costs the same franchise the ability to retain enough other top talent necessary to keep from dropping those 13 games elsewhere...

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by Stirrups on Nov 11, 2006 1:23 AM PST up reply actions

Since you can't comprehend

what I wrote on each post I will spell it out for you:

Intangible Asset appreciation. Name brand recogintiion.

Also if they share media revenue, which I am not buying, how dis Seattle in the top 5 in media revenue generated?

Trade for Wells, sign Aramis and say hello to the 2007 World Series Champions.

by hauldog on Nov 11, 2006 7:09 PM PST up reply actions

I comprehend clearly...

and reject it as bullshit.

If the reports are true and the BoSox are in for 45mill just for the right to negotiate with Boras, they better pray for some luck and nab a 5-year deal +.

That's because there are other reports that say that Boras is going to go after a 3-year deal to minimize the time in MLB until ALL the leverage is in his hands. At 3 years, Matsuzaka would then become a FA and Boras can play the BoSox against the Yankees, et al, and put all that cash into Dice K's pocket instead of splitting it with Seibu.

So, if true, Boston has exactly 3 years to exploit a single Japanese player and turn 45 friggin million bucks into "intangible asset appreciation". Good fucking luck.

And that's MY point. Boston is NOT Seattle. Pull Seattle out of your ass. Boston does NOT have Seattle's decades old cultural ties with Japan to leverage. Boston does NOT have Seattle's decades old business ties with Japan to leverage. Boston does NOT have Seattle's Japanese tourism trade to leverage. Boston has to start from practically zero. And they have to do it with someone who is NOT an everyday player.

Seattle had ALL that going for them long before the Mariners. And with Japanese ownership (REAL Nintendo baseball!) they got more going for them every friggin day than the rest of MLB combined.

I could see a west coast team risking $30 to $35 mill to grow their name brand recognition in Japan. But 45 mill? No. Boston? No. 3 years? No.

Let 'em sign him. Let's see if they put up 45 mill. Let's see how many years they get. And when it's over, when Boras has taken Dice K to someplace else, let's meet back here and count how many Japanese banners are still hanging behind home plate.

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by Stirrups on Nov 11, 2006 8:31 PM PST up reply actions

wow

ignorance is bliss. Better to reject what you can't possibly understand than adnit you do not understand.

Clearly you have no comprehension of economics or any financial analytical skill. There is nothing wrong with that though.

Trade for Wells, sign Aramis and say hello to the 2007 World Series Champions.

by hauldog on Nov 11, 2006 9:33 PM PST up reply actions

PS your facts are wrong

In order to be a free agent after three years DM he would have to negotiate that into his contract, much like Hideki Matsui.

Quote from Rosenthal:

Boras might be amenable if the agreement enabled Matsuzka, 26, to become a free agent at the end of the contract -- a stipulation that the Yankees awarded outfielder Hideki Matsui in his first contract.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6158878

Trade for Wells, sign Aramis and say hello to the 2007 World Series Champions.

by hauldog on Nov 11, 2006 9:45 PM PST up reply actions

What's your problem here?

Are you only able to comprehend every second word you read or something?

I wrote clearly, "there are other reports that say that Boras is going to go after a 3-year deal to minimize the time in MLB until ALL the leverage is in his hands".

So how the fuck can you bounce those marbles around in your brain and come back with "your facts are wrong...In order to be a free agent after three years DM he would have to negotiate that into his contract"

and, even more amazingly, then try to prove your point by directing me to a link that confirms what I wrote with the following text: "Boras might be amenable if the agreement enabled Matsuzka, 26, to become a free agent at the end of the contract...Boras...would want Matsuzaka to be a free agent as quickly as possible."???

I said it.
You think I'm wrong, so you say what I said.
To prove my 'error' you link to a story that says to you the same thing I said.

I'm done with you.

(P.S. - yeah, let me see your Nobel in economics, Mr. Keynes. Since, in this thread, you have shown that you did not know how baseball broadcast rights work, do not understand any differences between the Seattle and Boston markets for Japanese business interests, have a reading comprehension problem, and still want to hang $45 million on the hope that you can invent some lasting karma out of whole cloth with a guy who's gonna give you 30 games of media coverage a year over the next three years, I can only hope you aren't an analyst for my broker!)

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by Stirrups on Nov 11, 2006 10:55 PM PST up reply actions

fuckin pull yur head out

Keynes sucks. Milton Friedman uber alles!

by Rev Halofan on Nov 11, 2006 11:35 PM PST up reply actions

That is the smartest thing you have ever said....

...on HH. Unless you're kidding.

Capitalism and Freedom!!!

DarkAngel hath spoken....

by darkangel01 on Nov 11, 2006 11:48 PM PST up reply actions

I wasn't using Keynes as a compliment.

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by Stirrups on Nov 12, 2006 12:22 AM PST up reply actions

You are a fucking clown

If you think he is "a guy who's gonna give you 30 games of media coverage a year over the next three years." Public appearances? News stories? Highlights on Sportscenter. There are many more than 30 opportunties a year for the winning team to associate themselves with DM a year.

I admit I was wrong about how Japanes television rights worked, but I have repeatedly showed you where the team will more than make up for the 45 million

By the way dipshit you never said the free agency was something that had to be negotiated you imply it is a given. Six years. Whatever team has the winning posts will have his rights for six years unles they grant him something shorter.

Go make a shitty cartoon.

Trade for Wells, sign Aramis and say hello to the 2007 World Series Champions.

by hauldog on Nov 12, 2006 1:58 PM PST up reply actions

Dude, you and I need to call a truce.

And chill. It ain't worth all this shit. $20 sez that if you and I were hashing this out in normal conversation, we would be communicating a damned site better than we have been here.

Check yer daily ' toons here!

by Stirrups on Nov 13, 2006 9:00 AM PST up reply actions

Agreed

Lets hope Stoneman gets it done this offseason.

Stoneman I am really curious what you have up your sleeve considering your job is on the line. PS GMJ is not an option

by hauldog on Nov 13, 2006 9:33 AM PST up reply actions

More on revenue

But not all revenue generated from Asian sources is shared among all 30 MLB teams.

The Mariners have four Japanese companies with an advertising presence at Safeco Field. Given the team's international TV exposure, the signs are meant to target both American and Japanese audiences. Nintendo, whose president Hiroshi Yamauchi is the team's majority investor, has rotational signage in Kanji (Japanese script) behind home plate. Video game publisher Konami, food company Ajinomoto and car-maker Nissan are the others.

http://espn.go.com/gen/s/2002/0509/1380659.html

Trade for Wells, sign Aramis and say hello to the 2007 World Series Champions.

by hauldog on Nov 11, 2006 7:30 PM PST up reply actions

Weird

The same thing happened in Safeco............

Trade for Wells, sign Aramis and say hello to the 2007 World Series Champions.

by hauldog on Nov 11, 2006 7:10 PM PST up reply actions

Boras

Notice how these outlandish rumors always seem to come out of the woodwork when Boras is the player's agent.

by akathelorax @ Halos Heaven on Nov 10, 2006 11:07 AM PST up reply actions

Agreed

I wonder whether the Angels even made a bid.

Fire Mickey Hatcher. An entire generation of Angels offense depends upon it.

by scareduck on Nov 10, 2006 11:20 AM PST up reply actions

Confirmed by

Hudler (a few days ago), and an un-named source from within the organization.

Shaiken wrote an article about it in the times today.

It's a well known fact that if you try to take apart a cat to see how it works one of the first things you have on your hands is a non-working cat

by ineptituderunsamok on Nov 10, 2006 12:39 PM PST up reply actions

Times link

http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/la-spw-angelsnov11,1,3443875.story?coll=la-headlines-spor ts-majorbaseb

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by ineptituderunsamok on Nov 10, 2006 12:41 PM PST up reply actions

Good LA Times article...

Nice, at least it's not all B.S.

The Tim Mead email is interesting also..."Nothing new to report as of yet."

I'm probably reading into things...but.

And, the whole Olney-Red Sox thing, well, lets just say Olney has been wrong before.

We might find out today!!!

by Barry on Nov 10, 2006 3:30 PM PST reply actions

Olney

wrong before sounds like a bit of an understatement.

It's a well known fact that if you try to take apart a cat to see how it works one of the first things you have on your hands is a non-working cat

by ineptituderunsamok on Nov 10, 2006 3:57 PM PST up reply actions

The ESPN Baseball news desk

got their teeth kicked in all trade deadline season by Rosenthal and Heyman. I do not think it is a coincidence that both SI and Foxsports have nothing on their websites.

Kurkjian misreported the Soriano to Chicago trade and they basically got scooped on every other story.

Trade for Wells, sign Aramis and say hello to the 2007 World Series Champions.

by hauldog on Nov 10, 2006 4:03 PM PST up reply actions

It bears

reporting that a Dallas fishwrap is reporting that the Rangers have the highest bid. Sure wish they would just come out and announce who won.

If it's a board meeting thing thats holding up progress, perhaps we have to wait until Monday Japan time.

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by ineptituderunsamok on Nov 10, 2006 4:19 PM PST reply actions

From a Quality Yankees Blog...

Calm down, nothing has happened yet (2)

I have no clue where Matsuzaka ends up. But I find it hard to believe the Red Sox would bid $45 million. A few points:

Boston would not spend money on Johnny Damon. They have a system of determining the value of a player and not spending above that. Investing $90 million in Matsuzaka would be a total abandonment of their values. Frankly, if Boston wants to spend that much, good for them.
Buster Olney wrote this in his blog today: "One bit of speculation heard yesterday -- and it was nothing more than speculation -- was that maybe Boston had made an enormous bid, in the range of $45 million."
Screamin' A. Smith went on ESPN Radio and tried to make that into a scoop. No confirmation, no sources, no word from Japan. Screamin' A. Smith? Please.
Buster's story on ESPN.com says the Red Sox "may have" posted the top bid. Sure, they may have. Anybody "may have."
Let's say the Red Sox did bid that much. Why is Seibu taking so long to accept? Japanese reporters believe that the winning bid was far lower than expected and Seibu is deciding whether it is worth letting Matsuzaka go.

I'm headed to Chelsea Piers for Joe Torre's charity event. I'll be back with more later on.

http://www.lohud.com/blogs/2006/11/calm-down-nothing-has-happened-yet-2.html

by Barry on Nov 10, 2006 10:18 PM PST reply actions

Matsuzaka is worth more to the Red Sox.....

...than anyone else. They need a #1 starter and they need to prevent the Yankees from acquiring one. They are the only team that could come close to justifying $38 million for the guy. They could be planning to win the bid and not bother to negotiate (or low ball) just to keep him from NY for one more year. We'll see.

DarkAngel hath spoken....

by darkangel01 on Nov 11, 2006 1:16 AM PST reply actions

96 hours

Seibu has 96 hours to accept the bid right? 96 hours from 5pm EST on Wednesday is Sunday...

by akathelorax @ Halos Heaven on Nov 11, 2006 10:32 AM PST reply actions

I keep reading that it's Tuesday

So there are probably details such as:

what hour of the day did the clock start
the day ahead of us that Japan is due to the International dateline
the number of hours difference between New York and Tokyo.

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by Stirrups on Nov 11, 2006 11:04 AM PST up reply actions

Business hours

Must be 96 business hours not including Saturday and Sunday.

by akathelorax @ Halos Heaven on Nov 11, 2006 11:50 AM PST reply actions

Olney starting to backpedal a little..

No team has been told anything officially, and nobody is speaking for the record about the Daisuke Matsuzaka bidding, lest they incur the wrath of the commissioner's office. But multiple major league officials monitoring the process -- like pollsters standing outside the voting sites on Election Day -- believe that the Red Sox placed a staggering bid that will prevail.

Nothing has been confirmed, no announcement has been made, but those officials are confident that when the final Matsuzaka decision is ratified, the Red Sox, like Jim Webb in Virginia and Jon Tester in Montana, will be declared the winners. We shall see.

This morning, Bill Shaikin reports on a wild card -- the Angels placed a bid on Matsuzaka as well, and we know that Arte Moreno, the Angels' owner, has the financial might and the aggressive nature to win this kind of auction.

But if the Red Sox bid does fall within that $38 million to $45 million range, as the baseball pollsters believe, it could extend far beyond the sums that other teams bid. There is competitive logic to the Red Sox's aggressiveness. But such a bid would also recast how we might view other Boston decisions in the last 12 months.

by Barry on Nov 11, 2006 12:29 PM PST reply actions

IF th Red Sox DID place that GIANT bid

that is their Manny Money they are playing with - perhaps they will be trading Ramirez to the ANgels for Santana and assuming that less offense will be balanced by lights out pitching.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 11, 2006 11:34 PM PST up reply actions

Just talked to my wife in Japan

She heard from the Japanese news media that Texas won the rights.

Don't know what they will do with them tho. I think think that Dai-su-kei (thats the proper way to say the mans name)would really hate, and would crumble in that heat.

by eyespy on Nov 12, 2006 1:59 AM PST reply actions