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The 100 Greatest Angels: # 5 Garret Anderson

#5 Garret Anderson, OF

Career Stats

According to the Hall of Fame Monitor, Garret Anderson is the 308th greatest batter in baseball history and is more than halfway to Cooperstown, statistically speaking. Considering that he only turns 34 this June 30, there could be a number of fine offensive seasons ahead of him.

But even if the arthritis gets the better of him, nobody has done what he has done in his (California, Anaheim, Los Angeles of Anaheim) Angels uniform. Angel fan Brent Carter was our only Top 40 ballotteer who chose Garret as #1, so we'll hand the microphone over to him...

For starters, G.A' s incredible career is still going and he will inevitably add on to his already very impressive, potentially Hall of Fame numbers. Only one player in all of Major League Baseball has more hits than G.A. in the ten year period from 1995 - 2005. That is Derek Jeter with 1,936 hits and he is well on his way to being enshrined at Cooperstown. Over that same period Garret had 1,924 hits (only 12 fewer) and his power numbers are much more impressive.

As for a potential place in Cooperstown, it appears that his health may be the biggest question mark.  Certainly moving to DH would extend his already great career a couple of years and allow him to add to his resume. Garret became the All-time Angel hit leader with a game winner against the Dodgers last season. In his Angel career he has 1,929 hits, 224 HR, 1,043 RBI and an amazing 403 2B's.

Since Garret has always been an essentially reclusive star who doesn't self-promote with commercials or excessive interviews, he fails to get the national recognition of other great players. Fortunately, this began to change with his game winning hit in Game 7 of the 2002 World Series and his subsequent hitting exploits on the big stage of the 2003 All-Star Game in Chicago where he won the Home Run Derby and the All Star Game MVP honors on consecutive nights.

On top of all this, it has always seemed that the majority of G.A's HR's and RBI have come in pivotal situations that either tied the game or put the Angels ahead. He hasn't padded his stats with a lot of meaningless production in blow-out games.

Thanks Brent.

Garret has too many Angel records to retabulate here, suffice to say that he is far from simply a King of Kounting stats that multiply simply by his showing up for work. His career .473 Slug% is 4th best for an Angel, and his .298 career batting average is 2nd highest in franchise history. And of course, no discussion of G.A. is complete without noting that his thin `stache is as cool a look as a major leaguer has ever had.

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Dude drove in the winning run in Game 7.  

I don't have time to research the whens and wherefores, but I distinctly recall GA, as a young outfielder, being removed during a defensive half-inning for lackadaisical play (I think this was before Scioscia).  If I'm remembering right, and not just seeing Shiner-fueled visions, Collins or Lachemann or whoever probably deserves a fair piece of credit for making sure that he never turned into the Cadillac that everyone accuses him of being anyway.

For old times' sake, I note that GA will break the Angels' games played mark, currently held by a guy who's either #3 or #4 on this countdown, sometime in mid-May.  

by Sean on Feb 25, 2006 7:25 PM PST   0 recs

Bowa
A nasty piece of work, third base coach Larry Bowa probably got in G.A.'s face more than a few times.

by G Abbes on Feb 25, 2006 7:39 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

GA
This guy is a stud.  He is an absolute RBI machine.  When guys are on 2nd or 3rd, and he's up, they're in.  At times, no one can be more frustrating.  He's the opposite of the gritty/get dirty player a guy like Erstad is, but if you take away the arthritis he has also played in a rediculous amount of games each year, so he may be on to something.  

You take the good with the bad sometimes with Garrett, but I'm sure glad he's on our team.  If anything, #5 is too low on this list.  I figured he was top 3.  His style hurts his popularity with the masses.  If he played the same style of game as Erstad or Eckstein or Figgins, he'd probably be #1. And preArthritis for sure, he was the league's best left fielder.  Most underrated player in the AL for several years in my opinion.

by thewebb on Feb 25, 2006 8:58 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

He's been a great Angel, but....
He's got a long way to go before he deserves HoF induction more than Harold Baines. And Harold Baines don't deserve jack.

The Steve Garvey of the '90s & oughts. And like Erstad, his defensive flexibility has been key to the team's success.

by mattwelch on Feb 26, 2006 5:56 PM PST   0 recs

G.A.
Garvey's not near the hitter that G.A. is.

by Jack Frost on Mar 1, 2006 6:16 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Click the Careers Stats Page
and scroll down to the nearest player comps near the bottom.

Tell me what you think Brent, I mean Jack.

by Rev Halofan on Mar 1, 2006 9:31 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Garret vs. Garvey
I'm not just talking about stats. Let me ask you Mat, I mean Rev., who do you think is the better HITTER?

by Jack Frost on Mar 2, 2006 8:43 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I last saw Garvey bat
when I was, oh, 15, so I dunno.

by Rev Halofan on Mar 2, 2006 9:42 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

1,000 more hits...
and he's in.  But that's contingent on 5 or 6 more years of consistent hitting, which is a big if with his potential arthritis problem.
mh
"Driven in to right-center field... Erstad says he has it..."

by mheumann on Feb 26, 2006 8:23 PM PST   0 recs

He's already declined too far
... and won't be in baseball in three years.
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on Feb 26, 2006 9:17 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

ROB
Would you bet a thousand dollars on that?

by Rev Halofan on Feb 26, 2006 10:46 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

?????? Kidding right?
96 RBIs on a team that didn't score many runs last year.  3 HRs (1 to help us to our only win against the CWS) and 9 RBIs in the playoffs last year.

Sure, he may not get 1000 more hits, but the GA glass is not that empty.  Still our 2nd best hitter and it's not close.  

by thewebb on Feb 27, 2006 6:33 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Memories
Rod Carew used to call him the franchise.  Winning the the Home Run derby did a lot for Angel pride.

'King of Angel counting stats' is right.  Unfortunately I will remember how he got there.  Refusing to move to first base forcing better fielding Edmonds and Erstad to learn 1B instead.  And when the Angels realized that they had 4 outfielders, they also discovered that Garret had no trade value, absolutely none.  They wanted to keep Salmon, so after Edmonds was injured they gave in to demands for him.  Oh wait, the Rev would consider that a point in GA's favor.  Eventhough the Angels would have been better with 'Mr. Ed', fortunately Garrett stepped it up.  

Mr. Anderson was a much better than average fielder and should have been batting fifth in the order many of those seasons.  He is farther down on my list of top Angels and take solace that as time goes by, he will drop quicker than the others.

by Barca on Feb 27, 2006 6:35 AM PST   0 recs

Nice counting stats, but ...
... the guy's only had three good seasons ('95, '02, and '03) and a bunch of mediocre ones.

The three good seasons are very good, and he hit 313/340/532 in them, with an OPS+ of 131, averaging 27 HR and 112 RBI per 600 AB.

But that's only 25% of his career.  In the other 75% of his seasons, Garret has hit only 293/322/453, with an OPS+ of 98 (100 would be average, and you want a corner outfielder to be even better than that), averaging 19 HR and 91 RBI per 600 AB.

Still, that one well-placed and well-timed double off of Livan Hernandez counts for something.  I tend to value career value over peak value, so I had him a bit lower, as those three good seasons overstate his overall contribution over the course  of his career.

The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on Feb 27, 2006 10:29 AM PST   0 recs

Come on!
The guy has almost 2,000 hits in just over ten years! He was, along with Jeter,the most consistent hitter for A DECADE. He is the All-Time Angel Hit Leader AND the All-Time Angel RBI Leader AND has been incredibly clutch (great playoff performer).  It is much more than "that one well-placed and well-timed double" that G.A has brought to the table as an Angel. Last year he and Bengie were a tag-team that slayed the Yankees. G.A. has won so many games with late or extra inning hits that it's ridiculous. Have you even watched him over his career?

by Jack Frost on Feb 28, 2006 8:59 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I have watched
And I was watching in 1997, when he hit 8 home runs the whole season.  And I was watching in 2000, when, even though he drove in 117 runs, he had a .278 OBP with no men on base.  

That sort of thing counts, to me.  His job hasn't only been to drive in runs, just because he hits in the middle of the order.  He's rarely been a complete offensive player that can help you in the beginning and end of innings, where guys like Salmon, Downing, Grich, Glaus, etc. have been.

The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on Feb 28, 2006 10:04 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

numbers
What number do you think is more important; a .278 OBP with NOBODY on base (the guy is not a lead-off hitter) or 117 RBI??

by Jack Frost on Feb 28, 2006 10:31 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Both are important
And as for the bit about him not being a lead-off hitter, 52% of his plate appearances came with no one on base.

It is no batter's to just drive in runs or just set up runs.  All batters are called upon to do both.  Garret, for most of his career, has excelled at one but been subpar at the other.  That's all I'm saying.

The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on Feb 28, 2006 1:22 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

fielding
Alot of people knock him for not diving and stuff defensively, but he's a master at holding guys to a single.  He cuts of that ball on the line and guns it in to second better than any I've seen.

Definitely a hard guy to embrace because of his style, and his OBP has been low most years, but he's a RBI machine.

by thewebb on Feb 27, 2006 11:44 AM PST   0 recs

Good point
about the defense. Garret is actually a VERY UNDERRATED defensive player. He made several amazing plays last year where he quickly got to balls down the line, and as you say, whirled and threw to second to either A)get a sliding runner out, or B) hold the guy to a single.

Most coaches and managers, including Angel staff will tell you that Garret is very good a getting a read of the ball off the bat, He therefore makes alot of catches look easy that might otherwise have been sliding catches or hits. This is a part of his defensive that often goes unnoticed. So, all of you so-called Angel fans who have been dissing' G.A for years. Go put that in your Peace Pipe and smoke it!
 

by Jack Frost on Feb 28, 2006 9:05 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I concur
I never got the criticism of GA's defense; in his prime he was probably the best defensive LF in the league.  He got good reads (though I never thought he was quite at his best going back on the ball), and as mentioned above was/is terrific in cutting off balls down the line.  It's sad to see him out there now, having lost a step, like Tim Salmon did around five years ago.
The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on Feb 28, 2006 10:05 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

GA is a Stud
He has been the heart of the lineup for a long time, if he can produce RBI's like he has in the past and remain healthy he will answer a lot of the questions about this lineup. He has proved the last few years to be more of a gap hitter than a Home run hitter, but lets see if he finds his stroke and starts gaining his power back...

Look for big things out of GA this year... If he stays healthy and uses that effortless stoke of his we are all going to be smiling like years in the past

GA is my top 3 favorite Halos of all times....

He'll dive and get dirty if the game is on the line, but the clubhouse manager must love only having to wash GA's uniform once a week...ha ha ha

Halo Fever P239

by P237 on Feb 27, 2006 4:11 PM PST   0 recs

WORD
GA is the most productive hitter in Angels history.

[ducking all the stat-heads barbs]

by yeswecan on Feb 28, 2006 3:17 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

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