Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Game 35/162
Game Thread - Angels at White Sox at 5:05 pm (Pacific) on FSW
Ervin "Black Magic" Santana versus Charlie "Tim Wakefield" Haeger
The bandwagon of former Cubs and Blackhawks fans will be filling Kid Gleason Stadium to watch their team in all its trendy glory, this time with a knuckleballing rookie making his ML debut
Scouting Report
Some Angel Batters Against Tim Wakefield
Garret 18/57 .959 ops
Vladdie 6/13 2.073 ops
Rivera 3/7 1.000 ops
Tim Salmon 12/48 .778 ops
Maybe Ozzie Guillen will shoot off his stupid mouth before the game and the White Sox will host an Ozzie Demolition Night and the team will forfeit the final two games of the series. Remember when the White Sox wore shorts as part of their day game uniform? No uglier than Ozzie's mouth.
Random iTunes Lyrics
If you stay
I'll stay right beside you
And my love
May help to remind you
To forget that
Work Is A Four-Letter Word
Post Your Runs/Hits Picks by Game Time
MINE: LAA - 4, 8 ... CHI - 3, 7
Let's Go, ANGELS!
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let's re-enact the disco LP bonfire in Chicago
LAA: 8/15
CWS: 2/8
let's go halos!
by yeswecan on May 10, 2006 2:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you have
by Rev Halofan on May 10, 2006 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1-800-I-Will-Survive
by yeswecan on May 10, 2006 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Donna Summer - Last Dance
Sox 1/25
by cupie on May 10, 2006 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weather
Angels gotta win sometime.
Halos: 7/14
Pale Hose: 3/6
by jjackflash on May 10, 2006 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ervin Voodoo Santana
Chicken wings and Ox blood
Show us how you roll...
Mother Mary and John the Baptist
Show us how you roll...
Ananism and Homerism
Show us how you roll...
The Reverend and the Madame
Show us how you roll...
by cupie on May 10, 2006 3:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
CHI-Town
S
by ScottD00 on May 10, 2006 4:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
some sweet bars...
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moose McGillicuddy's
by yeswecan on May 10, 2006 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Adult Beverages
by HeyLegacy on May 10, 2006 4:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I live here
So, I don't know of any places besides the obligatory ESPN Zone or Fox Sports Grill.
by HeyLegacy on May 10, 2006 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh....
c
by cupie on May 10, 2006 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Live in Irvine
by HeyLegacy on May 10, 2006 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm about 10 mins from the Stadium...
by HeyLegacy on May 10, 2006 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm watching the A's
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 4:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
woohoo
F Catalanotto hit a ground rule double to left, R Johnson scored. 0 1
V Wells singled to left, F Catalanotto to third. 0 1
T Glaus walked, V Wells to second. 0 1
L Overbay homered to center, F Catalanotto, V Wells and T Glaus scored. 0 5
A Rios singled to center. 0 5
A Rios stole second.
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 4:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
awesome...
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Runs
Wsox- 9
Light up the halo, if the switch even works anymore
by P237 on May 10, 2006 4:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yes that is correct
by P237 on May 10, 2006 4:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not up on this subject....
by ladybug on May 10, 2006 4:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Halos are not hitting
by Rev Halofan on May 10, 2006 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotcha..thanks
by ladybug on May 10, 2006 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My rant
Well, it's not anti-Hatcher per se, but it calls his skills as a hitting coach into question.
Two things stand out to me with respect to the Angels' hitters. One, the hitters look like they have no plan. Last night, Phys & Hud were talking about a pregame meeting Hatcher had with the hitters, talking about having a plan when they go to bat. Clearly, they did not pick up on the message in time for yesterday's game.
Afterwards, Hud (who, incidentally, is sounding more & more like a real analyst this season...what's up with that?) was discussing a McPherson AB where Garcia started him out 3-0. He took a strike, which was fine. The 3-1 pitch was a fastball over the heart of the plate, & Dallas watched it for strike 2. Hud pointed out that he HAS to be sitting on that pitch. Especially when you're a young hitter, prone to the K, you're probably not going to get a 3-2 fastball. You've got to expect the fastball at 3-1, and swing if you get it. Walks are all well & good, and if that 3-1 pitch is a breaking ball, it's probably better to take it & hope it misses. But if you get the fastball, that's the one to attack. That should be part of your plan when you go to the plate - understanding situations and what to expect, and acting accordingly.
I've often wondered what a ML-level hitting coach actually does. I mean, you don't make it to the big leagues as a position player (except maybe catcher) if you don't know how to hit - you can't learn to hit at the major-league level. So, it's not as though these guys are teaching anything.
So what is it that they do? Go over film & try to identify tendencies, spot flaws, etc?
And if one of the hitting coach's responsibilities is helping the batters to develop the so-called plan, then it's pretty obvious that Hatcher (a) doesn't give them a good plan, (b) is unable to effectively communicate the plan, or (c) is able to formulate and communicate plans, but the hitters are all too inept to implement them. Option (c) seems the least likely.
I assume that some hitting coaches are better than others. What are the traits and qualities of the good ones? Does Hatcher possess those attributes?
I don't know.
That said, many have criticized the Angels' organizational player development philosophy, which has been to shy away from players with good strike zone recognition and on-base ability.
Another thing I've observed, and maybe it's perception more than reality, is that nobody on the team is hitting the ball hard. Everything is hit rather meekly. They're not just hitting rockets right at people; that would indicate bad luck, which tends to even out over time. None of these guys is able to hit the ball with any authority. They can't all be hurt. Even Vlad has basically turned into a singles hitter.
If Hatcher is not at least partly to blame, then what is the cause?
by jjackflash on May 10, 2006 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steals huge today
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 5:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Vlad has 2 HR and 3 2B
by Chronicles on May 10, 2006 5:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
how many walks
by hathaway93 on May 10, 2006 5:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A better question
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least two more
by Chronicles on May 10, 2006 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isnt it even more important
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 5:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you have got to be kidding me
well done lads
by P237 on May 10, 2006 5:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh good
by Chronicles on May 10, 2006 5:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm more
by hathaway93 on May 10, 2006 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops
I don't give much credence to what batting coaches bring to the table, but let me say this: firing Mickey Hatcher won't change anything, but it would be symbolic.
by scareduck on May 10, 2006 5:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't use tonight
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 5:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
'Course
by scareduck on May 10, 2006 5:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HA
by Higz on May 10, 2006 5:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like this ump
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 5:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Clearly
by scareduck on May 10, 2006 5:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
why would
by hathaway93 on May 10, 2006 5:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ok
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 5:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont want to sound greedy
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 5:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
is it just me
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 5:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this pitcher
by hathaway93 on May 10, 2006 5:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HOT DAMN!!!!!!
by ladybug on May 10, 2006 5:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Got stuck on a call
by Chronicles on May 10, 2006 5:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You couln't stay on the call for a couple of hours
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had known
by Chronicles on May 10, 2006 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GA!
by yeswecan on May 10, 2006 6:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
if the rook can find the strike zone
by yeswecan on May 10, 2006 6:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
jeez...
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 6:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
can you imagine...
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 6:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
there you go PHYS!!
by hathaway93 on May 10, 2006 6:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
bummer
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 6:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops
by scareduck on May 10, 2006 6:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike wants hit to have an opportunity
by scareduck on May 10, 2006 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aw, fuck
by scareduck on May 10, 2006 6:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
our current OF...
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 6:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
one of the worst?
by hathaway93 on May 10, 2006 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No outfield on earth
by scareduck on May 10, 2006 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
could be
by hathaway93 on May 10, 2006 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
defensively ofcourse
Let's beat these biotches!
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Superstitious
Angels are on the tightrope, that early lead actually makes this a MUST WIN.
by Rev Halofan on May 10, 2006 6:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah..need to wipe the smug look off Ozzie's face
by ladybug on May 10, 2006 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back to plate impatience
by scareduck on May 10, 2006 6:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it
by hathaway93 on May 10, 2006 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on magic
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 6:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Never noticed it
by scareduck on May 10, 2006 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good news
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 6:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This really IS a must win
Also, A's M's and Rangers all lost.
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 6:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HALLEFUCKINGLUJAH
by scareduck on May 10, 2006 7:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
got some good luck there...
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The days of
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 7:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
his weak throws
by hathaway93 on May 10, 2006 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, let me wallow in nostalgia
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
figgins
by hathaway93 on May 10, 2006 7:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that's false
by angels4adam on May 10, 2006 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he just scored...
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
...oh that...
by Rev Halofan on May 10, 2006 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
add that to our list of needs...
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 7:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
AYE AYE CAPTAIN
The ship's gonna blow
by ladybug on May 10, 2006 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we better stop the bleeding...
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 7:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
how come only our losses...
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 7:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ah man you poor bastard...
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When it was 6-0
No such luck.
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When things are bad
Malcolm Forbes
by ladybug on May 10, 2006 7:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
oofta moofta
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 7:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Molina
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 7:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Production from your catcher
We are all more worried about the numbers from some other positions.
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
those fans had an umbrella!
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 7:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ha..agreed!
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OHHHHH GRABOWSKI......next pitcher please
by ladybug on May 10, 2006 7:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
did
by hathaway93 on May 10, 2006 7:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
AJ
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we should trade for AJ
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just because
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 7:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this may sound crazy
How about a run, here? I'm just sayin'.
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 7:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
IMHO
by angels4adam on May 10, 2006 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Salmon!
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 8:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
word
by angels4adam on May 10, 2006 8:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Surely, SURELY, we can't blow this now?
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 8:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
who are these guys in the red hats?
Dare I dream that this is the mythical corner turning game?
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 8:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It has all the hallmarks
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quinlan!
by Rev Halofan on May 10, 2006 8:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who predicted 107 runs?
by UK Halo on May 10, 2006 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I just want to point out
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HUH??
What team is this??
by pattimelt on May 10, 2006 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
YOWSA.........
by ladybug on May 10, 2006 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
oh my gosh!
by angels4adam on May 10, 2006 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So
by Rev Halofan on May 10, 2006 8:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
just checking
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 8:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i had an O
by angels4adam on May 10, 2006 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We almost blew a 6-run lead
by Rev Halofan on May 10, 2006 8:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
good luck charm
It's my new version of the rally monkey. Hopefully it continues to work because we'll be in first and I'll end up in shape!
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 8:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
next time there's a close game in the late innings
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say...
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 8:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I say
by leftwing on May 10, 2006 8:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dallas
by Rev Halofan on May 10, 2006 8:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Two down
I'm torn as to whether I want this game to be called on account of rain. If they do, it maybe saves an injury. But also if they do, J-Mo loses his dinger.
by scareduck on May 10, 2006 8:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust
by thewebb on May 10, 2006 8:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember me?
If I'm home in time tomorrow, I'm gonna hang with you guys again during the game. I enjoyed my time here last time.
by jeeves on May 10, 2006 8:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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