Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Game 30/162

Mine

Angels 6 runs, 11 hits
Blue Jays 5 runs, 10 hits

Scott Schoeneweis gives up at least one run.

by WiseAndEck on May 5, 2006 1:14 PM PDT reply actions

my picks...and a question...

what the hell, I'll give this a try:
Angels 7 runs 13 hits
Blue Jays 4 runs 9 hits

Hopefully, they'll still be riding high on their win. With Carrasco, Lackey & Weaver up to pitch the next games, they need to pull it together.

I do have a question/comment: With Molina catching for Toronto, do you think that is a huge disadvantage since he knows the batting styles of the Angels so well?????

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions

predictions

halos - 8, 12
blue gays - 5, 11

"I want to win when the whole world is watching, ... I want to win a World Series in an Angels uniform." - Vladimir Guerrero

by angels4adam on May 5, 2006 1:30 PM PDT reply actions

He's a soft-tossing junkballer, precisely the type of pitcher that gives the Angels fits (3 ER in 14 IP last year). Also, Rex Hudler simply cannot pronounce his name correctly (it usually comes out as "sah-SHEEN" rather than "SHA-seen"), so prepare to be constantly annoyed if you're watching on the tube.

Ervin will be on his game tonight. In fact, it's my belief that Santana pitches better when the Angels have trouble scoring for him than when he's got a comfortable run cushion.

Angels: 3/7
True Gays: 2/5

Note: I don't want to come off sounding homophobic. Angels4Adam's "blue gays" reminded me that back when I was a kid, I used to have some fun altering baseball cards (common players, only!), whether it was to mess with their hair, erase out the eyes, or simply add an evil mustache. Once, I changed "Blue Jays" across a long-forgotten player's jersey to "True Gays." At age 12, I thought I was incredibly clever.

by jjackflash on May 5, 2006 2:12 PM PDT reply actions

That Card

might sell for thousands in a Westside art gallery if you had a Cal Arts degree and nice framing...

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions

I think

I still have it. My parents never threw out any of my old baseball cards, perhaps because my mom, a Yankees fan, was heartbroken when her parents threw out her baseball cards when they moved to California in the 1950s. She had DiMaggio, Mantle, etc. in her collection; she could have retired years earlier if they'd been kept.

I've got some shoeboxes (Vans boxes, to be precise, from when Vans were originally cool and were made in the USA) with all of my old baseball cards. Maybe I could put together a collection of my "original work." If I didn't shower for a week, maybe I could even convince someone that I'm a starving artist genius-type!

by jjackflash on May 5, 2006 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Right track

just add the $65,000 MFA from Cal Arts

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions

that's funny

and some cards don't even need altering. for example I have a 1983 Rusty Kuntz card...

by Higz on May 5, 2006 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions

leonard

we will certainly laugh and cry and cry and laugh about this angels team all summer long.

sisters of mercy: 6/10
new skin for the old ceremony: 2/8

by yeswecan on May 5, 2006 2:16 PM PDT reply actions

Nice

Didn't know you had a Len-Cohen affinity. I take back all of my Beach Boys remarks!

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions

i'm no one-trick pony

nick drake is another one of my folkie faves. more recently in that genre, Sun Kil Moon (ex-Red House Painters).

by yeswecan on May 5, 2006 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions

ZZZOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM

those references flew way over my head.

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions

not even Nick Drake???

the guy's 1972 song was in a VW commercial, for crying out loud. i know what to get you for Libra Las Vegas, Part II.

by yeswecan on May 5, 2006 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Lets not get crazy

yesterday was exciting but I am looking for another low scoring match up.

Halos 4/9
BJ's 3/5

Howie at first? Napoli or Jose? Alfonso?!? Many questions left to be answered.

by riktermiller on May 5, 2006 2:43 PM PDT reply actions

interesting

figgins, lf
cabrera, ss
anderson, dh
guerrero, rf
kendrick, 1b
alfonzo, 3b
molina, c
murphy, cf
kennedy, 2b

HK-47 bats 5th, Frosty Fonzie bats 6th, kennedy back to 9th.

by yeswecan on May 5, 2006 3:35 PM PDT reply actions

WTF?

someone punch Sosh.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions

G.A.

Must've crabbed the loudest to egt the first turf-day offday.

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions

WOW

This lineup is 'Fun-kaay'. Although, the 6-8 hitters are still mediocre, as usual.

I'd flip Kennedy with Kendrick. AK batting 5 with Kenny Howdrick in the 9 slot.

"I don't have to be nervous... It's a baseball game."

by proletariat on May 5, 2006 4:01 PM PDT reply actions

AK

likes batting 9th or something, but at some point Sosh needs to put the team ahead of what AK likes and bat him where he can actually use the fact that he's hitting singles and doubles to use

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions

i have to backpedal...

I would make the observation that this lineup that sosh has minimizes 1-2-3 innings the most, given the roster. So I don't think it's necessarily just Sosh's indulgence of AK wishes to put him in 9 tonite (given all the newbies).

"I don't have to be nervous... It's a baseball game."

by proletariat on May 5, 2006 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions

me too

"I want to win when the whole world is watching, ... I want to win a World Series in an Angels uniform." - Vladimir Guerrero

by angels4adam on May 5, 2006 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Fonz

Noooooooooooooooooooooo!

And I just put Napoli in my fantasy team too hoping he'd play today (he was dirt cheap though)

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:02 PM PDT reply actions

AK batting 9th because it's an LHP

He's not as hot agains the LHP ...

... I usually gloss over the Random Lyrics, but the comments point out to me that it's Leonard Cohen. Well done! And on topic, too.

The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on May 5, 2006 4:05 PM PDT reply actions

Bloody hate

MLB.tv when it edits out the ad breaks, they're half the fun! (especially the way we've been playing lately!)

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:07 PM PDT reply actions

you're only missing out...

on mountains of pop-culture cheese... but I guess that's probably more likely to subversively entertain... hmm

"I don't have to be nervous... It's a baseball game."

by proletariat on May 5, 2006 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions

For sure

Most of the ads are crap, but it's better than a blue screen trying to get me to start and MLBlog right???

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions

AN

Mlblog, not and

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions

lol

definitely better than a blue screen... unless you're on LSD.

"I don't have to be nervous... It's a baseball game."

by proletariat on May 5, 2006 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions

mlb.tv feed

damn thing is a widescreen feed squished into fullscreen, so hard to watch

by Neo8234 on May 5, 2006 4:15 PM PDT reply actions

I've got mine

on double the size it comes up with, find the resolution is a bit too poor for full screen, it gets a bit blocky - in this mode the widescreen fits fine

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions

1-2-3

"I don't have to be nervous... It's a baseball game."

by proletariat on May 5, 2006 4:15 PM PDT reply actions

Uniform query

Are the Angels the only team who's road uniform doesn't have their city/state name across the front?

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:16 PM PDT reply actions

No

occaisionally you'll notice it with the Astros and a handful of silly costumed teams like the Friars. and is it cool or lame? i say that it is quite invalid.

"I don't have to be nervous... It's a baseball game."

by proletariat on May 5, 2006 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Don't those teams

have shirts that have Houston or San Diego on them though, even if they have versions that don't? None of the Angels shirts have Anaheim or Los Angeles on. I just noticed how when they showed Glaus homering in the 02 WS the grey road jersey had ANAHEIM on it, whereas tonight it has ANGELS like the home one

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions

yep.

the angels are the only team in mlb... and maybe all of pro american sports... that use the team nickname exclusively on all uniforms with no locality mentioned.

"I don't have to be nervous... It's a baseball game."

by proletariat on May 5, 2006 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions

actually...

now that i think of it it's common in american football.

"I don't have to be nervous... It's a baseball game."

by proletariat on May 5, 2006 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Not true

Orioles

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions

WOW

those poor fans. I never really addressed this issue with my baltimore fan friend... we must commiserate and bond as brothers in the family of fans victimized by the marketing department.

My signature sucks.

by proletariat on May 5, 2006 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions

i think so

it's part of the angels' strategy to market "angels baseball" instead of "[name of city] angels". the radio network is also called the "angels radio network", whereas most (all?) teams have their city names in there. also, commentators don't substitute "Los Angeles" or "Anaheim" for "Angels" when they're speaking of the team.

by yeswecan on May 5, 2006 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Just had a quick look

and from what I can see the Cardinals, Brewers and Orioles also don't display their town on the road jersey, so I guess I answered my own question!

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Bugger

Not a good start by Magic here

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:22 PM PDT reply actions

WELL CRAP.....

and Glaus up with 2 on and no outs

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 4:22 PM PDT reply actions

Anyone else watching on mlb.tv?

Do you also not have a balls/strikes and runner position display? Pretty annoying not having it!

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:27 PM PDT reply actions

just pretend

that you're living in the late '70s

by Higz on May 5, 2006 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions

I wasn't even alive then!

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions

<<GROAN>> you are making me feel old

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions

I was

in preschool

by Higz on May 5, 2006 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions

MLB.tv does that a lot

especially when they aren't showing commercials ... it's like they're just using the video/audio feed of a station but not the graphics or anything else.

The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on May 5, 2006 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions

It's weird though

cos you still get the captions showing batters averages and stuff, just not the game info bar at the top which, lets face it, is more important!

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions

watching it on TV....sorry

maybe do gameday?? they seem to keep up pretty well

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 4:29 PM PDT reply actions

anyone else

see the resemblance with HK47 and GA???

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 4:31 PM PDT reply actions

Howie already has 2 HBP

but Garret is almost never hit.

But otherwise, I see what you mean ...

The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on May 5, 2006 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions

kinda meant physically

same blah look on their faces

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Escalade and Cimarron

He's one eight the size.

And yes I thought the same thing also.

by eyespy on May 5, 2006 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions

HK

Just wore one for the team, good lad! Now up to the Fonz (yeh right!) or AK to drive him home

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:32 PM PDT reply actions

loved how he did it...

no reaction whatsoever, as he matures, he's simply going to be the man. Can't decide whether to pick him up or not. Think he'll start ever game, even against righties?

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeh

he didn't even flinch! Might've been a different story if it had been the Big Unit who clipped him with a 97mph heater though

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions

did I mention....

I hate when GA bats 3rd vs lefties instead of Vlad? Is Sosh in a coma? Does this bug anyone else?

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 4:33 PM PDT reply actions

I don't really understand

what they deal is with that, either.

But recent studies hint that your best hitters should bat 1st, 2nd, and 4th ... so putting Vlad in the clean-up spot doesn't really bother me. The difference is very small.

The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on May 5, 2006 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Problem is

that they don't follow the logic of these new studies, they just get lucky and occasionally dial in something close to correct.

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions

cant jose

make some contact

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 4:40 PM PDT reply actions

C'mon

Papa Smurph

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:40 PM PDT reply actions

D'oh

Just as I type that he pops up

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions

pathetic....

6-7-8 could be very painful tonight.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 4:42 PM PDT reply actions

Nice slider

to get Bengie there, almost Frankie-esque movement

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 4:44 PM PDT reply actions

My mom gave me a bunch of old Scioscia cards

mostly Dodger days some Angels.....they worth anything???

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 4:45 PM PDT reply actions

Check E-bay

ebay will give you the best idea of the lowest common denominator in the prices... but they'd mostly be worth money to people like us or people like hooligans in the outfield pavillion with brooklyn blue flannel shirts buttoned only at the top.

My signature sucks.

by proletariat on May 5, 2006 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Short Answer

No.

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions

could you clarify your answer, REV??

not sure I understood everything!!!

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Scosh

If he keeps this up, you ae going to have to pay someone to take the cards

Halo Fever P239

by P237 on May 5, 2006 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm not going to lie...

Letting him go was the right move instead of paying him over 7 million, especially with how his defensive skills have declined, but it is still tough to see Bengie on another team. One of my favorite Angels of all time.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 4:47 PM PDT reply actions

Yeah ...

if we didn't get rid of bengie the cumulative weight of our catchers and pitchers would reach record heights... a distinction so dubious it would likely have been in Guiness' book.

My signature sucks.

by proletariat on May 5, 2006 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions

As iI told my son

Bart and Bengie were not allowed to ride on the same plane, or on the same side of the ship.

by eyespy on May 5, 2006 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions

YES...

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Dear Mr. Wells -

Please become an Angel next year.

Sincerely,
thewebb

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 4:56 PM PDT reply actions

Lose Fonzie

He's not hitting and now his poor defense is rearing it's ugly head.

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Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 5, 2006 5:05 PM PDT reply actions

tough play though...

bouncing off the bag like that. Let's not release him, just stop starting him for gawd sakes.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions

No way

that D-Mac makes that play though

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions

yeah but....

he fielded it well and just forgot how to get the ball out of his glove.

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Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 5, 2006 5:10 PM PDT reply actions

3 runs in 4 innings...

wouldn't be so bad if we had an offense.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:19 PM PDT reply actions

wow...Hud being honest

Impressed.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:19 PM PDT reply actions

Murphy....A FREAKING STUD

Look at that cannon

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Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 5, 2006 5:21 PM PDT reply actions

f ya Murphy!

Anyone here other than me and the crickets?

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:21 PM PDT reply actions

Cut down

Thats the way to end an inning laddie

by eyespy on May 5, 2006 5:21 PM PDT reply actions

...and guess what

Molina was in so our catcher caught it!

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Attakid

Smiles Murphy's throw sounded great!

The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on May 5, 2006 5:22 PM PDT reply actions

wow

great throw..erstad doesnt make that play

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 5:22 PM PDT reply actions

nope...

definitely better arm

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Who?

by eyespy on May 5, 2006 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Murphy

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions

No, no, no

I meen Who doesn't make that play? Wally Pipp?

by eyespy on May 5, 2006 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions

good rip/hustle!

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:28 PM PDT reply actions

Murph throw

Just got home from work in time to see Murphy's gun. Great throw, but it also looked to me like the runner got a terrible jump.

...and now a double! WTG kid!

by leftwing on May 5, 2006 5:28 PM PDT reply actions

yeah...

runner was losing his balance on his way home, still a great throw.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions

agreed

by leftwing on May 5, 2006 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions

murphy!

is a stud

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 5:29 PM PDT reply actions

Anyone else see

the Jays RF behind Wells on the play just fall over for no reason!

by Matt UK on May 5, 2006 5:29 PM PDT reply actions

They got...

Snipers in Toronto. Its a known fact.

by eyespy on May 5, 2006 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Don't mean to be a killjoy, but....

on Murphy's throw home he was in VERY shallow centerfield when he caught it. It was accurate, but it was not a difficult throw to make...

by Jack Frost on May 5, 2006 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions

O'Murphy

Damn he's got wheels, too bad he missed that ball.

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Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 5, 2006 5:37 PM PDT reply actions

no doubt

faster than hell

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions

oh man

I thought Murphy was going to come down with that one.

by leftwing on May 5, 2006 5:37 PM PDT reply actions

on the other hand....

Ersty might make that play, or at least not let it go to the wall.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:38 PM PDT reply actions

No way...

Ersty would've cut it off but it still would've scored the runs.

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Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 5, 2006 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions

a guy would score from first...

in a play he cuts off?

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions

id guess

either erstad plays it into a double instead of a triple..or gets hurt making some crazy sliding catch

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions

OUCH!! NOT NICE

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 5:39 PM PDT reply actions

If were were offer M Cabrera for Kendrick and Wood

who here would do it?

I think I would.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:42 PM PDT reply actions

that should say offerED

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Maybe Mathis and Wood

but I don't know about Kendrick and Wood. Of course, they probably wouldn't take just Mathis and Wood.

by Jack Frost on May 5, 2006 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

come on ANGELS

6 runs....NO PRESSURE here....6 runs

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 5:43 PM PDT reply actions

Well

At least we are not losing because of Glaus and Molina...

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 5:43 PM PDT reply actions

nah, we're just beaning Bengie at the plate

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions

banYAN

hasnt been bad lately

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 5:44 PM PDT reply actions

Gut the team

Let's just do the inevitable and get rid of some of the dead weight so the young guys can get in.

And trade Wood for a nice 3rd string catcher (preferably to the Rangers).

by george bush on May 5, 2006 5:44 PM PDT reply actions

HK as well

Let's get some picks for him too (from the Rangers maybe)?

by george bush on May 5, 2006 5:45 PM PDT reply actions

what?

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions

yeah...

you can't trade picks, you mouth-breather

by SABRJoe @ Halos Heaven on May 5, 2006 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions

I LOVE HOW

WHENEVER SOMEONE HERE DOESN'T KNOW THE MINUTIA OF BASEBALL RULES, THEY ARE A MORON (via the judgemental stat fucks), BUT WHEN A.N. HAS THE GEEKIEST YAHOOS FROM NAPA PIPING IN ABOUT THE ASSES OF THE PLAYERS IT IS JUST A GOOD OLD FASHIONED COMMUNITY..

In other words, lighten the fuck up SaberJoe

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions

yeah, my response had nothing to do with...

trading picks, I just didn't get the point of the post. But George, I did vote for you! Probably the only guy on this site!

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions

figgins!!

WITH A BUNT!!! how does that happen

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 5:46 PM PDT reply actions

Must be

behind by 6 runs and picking up the drills they ditched at Spring Training...

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Secret Agent Bengie

Letting a run score for his true employers.

The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on May 5, 2006 5:49 PM PDT reply actions

WOOOHOOOO FIGGIE

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 5:49 PM PDT reply actions

DINO

That guy is an idiot....Figgy ran through his stop sign...that's Halo baseball, Dino doesn't know how to play Angel baseball!

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Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 5, 2006 5:49 PM PDT reply actions

hate to say it...

but I'd say Dino tried to do the right thing there. Getting thrown out at home to make the 1st out when down 6-0 would be stupid.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions

as opposed to

stranding a runner at 3rd, which our alleged best player Adam Kennedy did last inning?

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions

with zero outs?

And Vlad on deck?

I think we need a happy medium. There's a difference between agressive base running and idiotic base running. Roenicke loved to run our guys into outs. Great part about that is a bunch of our guys increase their chance of injury as well.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

it's a hard call

but Figgie was already moving & that boy is fast. It's a gamble either way...not exactly like the offense is a sure guarantee to be able to bring him in

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Way to...

stay with it and get those thoughts out there ;-)

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Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 5, 2006 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

The Angels do best

with their surprise attacks. Damn, its hard to type with a 9 mos old competing for the keyboard

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

if bengie comes up

with the ball..hes out..that was the right call by dino

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions

I disagree...

and here's why:
He did this before, early in the season to Izturis when he would've clearly scored. Figgy knows that and so he ran through the sign. You're already down 6, no reason not to run, you have got to get something started and running on the basepaths to force errors is the way to do that.

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Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 5, 2006 5:53 PM PDT reply actions

we'll agree to disagree...

no way you do that in front of Vlad with no outs. If our 4-5-6 can't score a guy from 3rd with 3 outs, we won't win anyways.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Howie Walks!

What's next? Dogs and cats living together?!

The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on May 5, 2006 5:54 PM PDT reply actions

they stayed away from him

with Alturdo up next.

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions

LoL

by eyespy on May 5, 2006 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Alturdo

I guess it is fair to just root for an injury-inducing HBP.

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 5:56 PM PDT reply actions

God ...

We can only hope

Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 5, 2006 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions

the way Sosh is managing this year...

Alfonso will be batting 3rd tomorrow.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions

yes!

Kotch in the on deck circle. Glad to see that here.

by leftwing on May 5, 2006 5:58 PM PDT reply actions

how many times

does alfonzo have to suck for us to release him

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 5:58 PM PDT reply actions

I was just thinking

Maybe waiting for Izturis to come back first? When's that supposed to happen anyway?

by leftwing on May 5, 2006 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

i think

once rivera comes back he wont be playing

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions

that may be Monday...

God willing.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions

He was muttering...

something about Cinco de mayo and is it celebrated in o'Canada

by eyespy on May 5, 2006 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions

ditto

DAMMIT

by Neo8234 on May 5, 2006 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions

O'Muprhy

Do the right thing baby.....go yay-yay

Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 5, 2006 6:01 PM PDT reply actions

or not

but at least it wasn't a K, thanks Alturdo

Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 5, 2006 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions

damn, that one was almost out

of the infield

by leftwing on May 5, 2006 6:02 PM PDT reply actions

too many holes in our lineup...

I ask again...who here agrees to a Miguel Cabrera for Wood and Kendrick trade if that is all they would take?

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 6:03 PM PDT reply actions

Actually, NO WAY, and here is why...

Miguel Cabrera is the closest thing to a Jose Guillen/Manny Ramirez headcase malcontent in baseball today.

As good as he is and as young as he is, the chances that he will want a different set of rules for him than for the other players means that he would not work out in the Angels clubhouse.

I don't know if he will go on to be the best player in baseball besides pujols, but I do know that his swagger will be incomaptible with all but the loosest group of apatheitc veterans and unimpressionable rookies.

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

how about

if they agree to take Alfonzo and Yan too?

by leftwing on May 5, 2006 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions

As tremendous a hitter

as Miggy is, Kendrick/Wood have a chance to be a dominating double-play combo from around 2008 or '09 through 2012 or so, and possibly beyond. That's of huge value.

Of course, that's theoretical, possible value, and Cabrera is pretty much guaranteed value. So it's a tough question. My gut is to hang on to our guys.

The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on May 5, 2006 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions

yeah, it is a tough one...

Pros: Closest thing to Pujols and he's only 23 or so, Vlad won't be around forever it would be nice to pair him with a stud like this like the Red Sox 3-4 hitters and to have an heir apparent ready when he's gone, can play OF or 3B, we'd be pretty much guaranteed the most talented team in the West the next few years.

Cons: Like Rev said, his attitude has been a question mark, Wood seems mature beyond his years, Kendrick has hit for a high average everywhere he's been and looks comfortable so far.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions

i'd do it

in a second

"I want to win when the whole world is watching, ... I want to win a World Series in an Angels uniform." - Vladimir Guerrero

by angels4adam on May 5, 2006 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions

NO!

You can't trade both Kendrick and Wood. I would send Wood before Kendrick and I would think Wood is the more attractive commodity when sending away the production Of Cabrera.

and like the Rev said Cabrera is close to Manny in his lack of concentration but I think at this point the offense would be worth the headaches associated with a 23 superstar.

by riktermiller on May 5, 2006 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions

i think

that winning baseball games would take away alot of that "headache" for me.

"I want to win when the whole world is watching, ... I want to win a World Series in an Angels uniform." - Vladimir Guerrero

by angels4adam on May 5, 2006 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions

And also

Anytime you trade TWO prospects for a grade A player - you are doubly haunted - what if one is a bust but one is a superstar and MigCab suddenly twists something near some tendon?

Howie for Miggy-C - MAYBE
Wood for him - MAYBE

But not both.

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions

put it this way....

if they did it, I wouldn't blame them, and if they don't I wouldn't blame them.

It would sure be nice being the favorite in the AL though. Basically, since he's only 23 and a superstar, we'd be getting the ultimate 'can't miss' prospect for two guys that may be great, may be mediocre.

Tough call for a GM though. I do like Wood and Kendrick, no doubt.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions

wow

you said that m cabrera might twist something. i'm pretty sure there is an equal chance of wood or kendrick twisting something as anyone else. the fact that you said that you might not even trade kendrick OR wood one-for-one is just plain silly. cabrera has a GREAT chance to be one of the best players in baseball over the next 15 years, and youre saying that you wouldnt even take the chance of trading ONE of our players who is UNPROVEN and at best has a CHANCE of being as good as miguel in the next 15 years. that sounds alot like retardation to me.

"I want to win when the whole world is watching, ... I want to win a World Series in an Angels uniform." - Vladimir Guerrero

by angels4adam on May 5, 2006 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions

What I meant was

if you only get one player in a trade, one injury means you got NOTHING in the trade.

IF you give up two players ina trade and one is a bust, you still traded a way a player who was not a bust.

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions

ok

that makes more sense, but i would still give them any two of our "prospects" for a already proven superstar, 2-time all-star, silver slugger, (I can go on and on) 23-year old.

"I want to win when the whole world is watching, ... I want to win a World Series in an Angels uniform." - Vladimir Guerrero

by angels4adam on May 5, 2006 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Agree, not both

Also, I'm pleased to hear you acknowledge the importance of a player's clubhouse demeanor to the ultimate winning or losing of the franchise. You seemed to pushing hard for Manny so I wasn't sure whether you were acknowledging this kind of stuff...This is one of the big reasons I generally frown on bringing in "big name" veterans to this core group of players (Salmon, Erstad, G.A., etc.) because in most cases they won't fit in.

I think Vlad is different because he's very unassuming and has a certain innocent, child-like quality that makes him less threatening than other superstars.

by Jack Frost on May 5, 2006 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions

The post above was in response to the Rev.

by Jack Frost on May 5, 2006 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Vlad Childlike?

I hung with the team on night and the dude is NOT childlike, he is deferred to by everyone, He speaks English and hangs out as one of the guys - but they all defer to him. Him and Erstad.

There was no doubt who the MAN was. He drank Coronas all night, his girl had cocktails, he never got out of hsi seat - never had to. But he hung with Mathis, Saunders and Josh Paul like they were the sprkplugs on the whole damn engine

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions

I think

he meant that Vlad is pretty light hearted etc

by Matt UK on May 6, 2006 4:29 AM PDT up reply actions

atta boy esteban

doing what you do best

by Neo8234 on May 5, 2006 6:07 PM PDT reply actions

guy's gotta go with his strength

by leftwing on May 5, 2006 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions

OOHHHHHH the humiliation.......

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 6:07 PM PDT reply actions

Kendrick and Wood for Adam Eaton?

by george bush on May 5, 2006 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

ESTEBAN YAN

He almost had trade value again before that last inning...

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 6:13 PM PDT reply actions

Figgy

Wicked Wheels

Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 5, 2006 6:14 PM PDT reply actions

man

somebody put something in Figgy's water today.

by leftwing on May 5, 2006 6:14 PM PDT reply actions

ga

needs a day off

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 6:19 PM PDT reply actions

this WAS his day off

he got to DH...

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions

true

hopefully he gets going again soon

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions

YAN CAN

go anytime now

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 6:26 PM PDT reply actions

actually feel bad for the guy...

but yeah, he's not good.

by thewebb on May 5, 2006 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Esteban Yan

is the worst.

The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on May 5, 2006 6:26 PM PDT reply actions

if quinlan is healthy...

why isnt he playing over alfonzo

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 6:33 PM PDT reply actions

because

Alfonso provides the requisit amount of veteran leadership with Ersty and GA not in between the lines.

by riktermiller on May 5, 2006 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Because

Chad Guadin and the A's are CHUMPS and hit his elbow, bruising it, he is in the dugout with a tight wrap around it.
Scioscia has not Finley to love and believe in and Alturdo is the next best overpaid stump for Mikey to love.

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm just glad

things are back to normal.

Did anyone else know that the Royals were offered Alex Rios numerous times in deals for pitching? I can hardly believe that the Royals had a hard time identifing talent!

by riktermiller on May 5, 2006 6:34 PM PDT reply actions

LOL

they just showed a picture of Sosh.....he WASN'T picking his upper lip but he was sure twitching and moving his leg up and down. Poor Mikey, he looks stunned!!

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 6:38 PM PDT reply actions

what is

physioc's problem?..i know we are down by 9 runs..but can the guy get excited for mike napoli's double?

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 6:38 PM PDT reply actions

Steve Physioc

He can only get excited about RECOUNTING the past.

HE cannot for the life of him accurately describe what is happening in the moment, nor emote what it may or not may be worth...

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions

what about yesterday...

didn't he get all excited about Napoli & Murphy with their "firsts"?? or was that all Hud??

by ladybug on May 5, 2006 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions

when he is actually calling

the play as it happens..he is unable to put things together

by hathaway93 on May 5, 2006 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions

He got excited

RECOUNTING all of the firsts.

by Rev Halofan on May 5, 2006 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions

I seem to remember

hearing something about playing the hottest bats. I might be missing something but this should leave Napoli starting over Molina. Have I missed some of JOMO's at bats?

by riktermiller on May 5, 2006 6:42 PM PDT reply actions