Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Game 32/162

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 12:48 PM PDT in Angels News

Game Thread - Angels at Blue Jays at 4:07 pm (Pacific) on FSN
Jeff "Elder" Weaver versus Roy "Cy2-03" Halladay

Darin Erstad is on the disabled list, Juan Rivera has returned to the Angels.
If you are looking for Rivera to be our savior, you're looking pretty desperate.

Scouting Report
Some Angel Batters Against Cy2-03
Garret 8/17 1.417 ops
Alfonzo 6/12 1.167 ops
Tim Salmon 5/13 1.044 ops

Would I sound whiny if I pointed out the excellent W/L records of the teams we have faced so far this season?
That was rhetorical, by the way...

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Well Mack the Finger said to Louie the King
I got forty red white and blue shoestrings
and a thousand telephones that don't ring.
Do you know where I can get rid of these things?

Post Your Runs/Hits Picks by Game Time
MINE:
LAA - 5, 9
TOR - 2, 6

Let's Go, ANGELS!

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I think it can be easily done

Ah, who am I kidding? The Angels have no chance against Halladay. None.

Which means they'll probably win.

Angels: 4/7
Blue Jay Way: 3/9

by jjackflash on May 8, 2006 12:57 PM PDT reply actions

Game is also on INHD

So the pain will look pretty, like a rose, or a supermodel made of chainsaws.

Angels - 5/9
Boo Hays - 4/9

by Sean @ Halos Heaven on May 8, 2006 1:02 PM PDT reply actions

PHIL

Could i get a PHIL on Weaver before i make any predictions?

Halo Country

by cupie on May 8, 2006 1:33 PM PDT reply actions

PHIL this...

PHIL

Cool or Lame?

Lame.

JEFF WEAVER

Panther or Pussycat?

Mee-friggin'-OW.

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Stop Hatin'

PHIL, is a true barometer of an athelete's performance.

I am sure the Ol' Weaver's PHIL is pretty low...

Halo Country

by cupie on May 8, 2006 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions

does that mean...

he needs a PHIL-UP ??? I just crack myself up!!

by ladybug on May 8, 2006 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Goodvibes on Monday!

Yeah, right. Against Halladay?

Ok, I alwasy looks for the boys to win..

Halos: 1/5
Jays: 0/7

Show me something Weaver.

by goodvibe61 on May 8, 2006 2:28 PM PDT reply actions

"Weaver's just another word for...

...nothing left to lose..."

LAA: 5/7
TOR: 4/9

by yeswecan on May 8, 2006 2:37 PM PDT reply actions

Simple

AAA Salt Lake: 4
Jay Birds: 3

We are gonna beat Halladay and get a split!

Halo Fever P239

by P237 on May 8, 2006 2:56 PM PDT reply actions

As poorly as the Angels have played...

...they're still only three games out.

The Angels have the best pitching staff in the west and if these bats ever come alive at all, they'll start to win some series. I tend to be pessimistic by nature, but I'm still holding out plenty of hope for this season.

Quick point about Weaver: his K, BB, and HR rates aren't that far off from last year's. If he continues to pitch like he has, the ERA will come down. Not below 4.00, but it will come down.

by Dogman on May 8, 2006 3:12 PM PDT reply actions

I'm still optimistic

The past couple years our boys have flat sucked at their place, so a win tonight and a split to will feel pretty good.

Los Angeles de Los Angeles de Anaheim: 3/6
Los Pajaros Azules de America Peor: 2/7

by TeddyBlogame on May 8, 2006 3:28 PM PDT reply actions

watching the offense..

it is hard to even imagine us scoring a run at this point

by hathaway93 on May 8, 2006 4:09 PM PDT reply actions

welcome back juan

figgins, 3b
cabrera, ss
guerrero, rf
anderson, dh
rivera, lf
kennedy, 2b
kotchman, 1b
molina, c
murphy, cf

why does this team seem to start feeling like frankenstein?

by yeswecan on May 8, 2006 4:10 PM PDT reply actions

Gregg

with the Angels offense (or lack thereof), will it even matter if Triple G pitches a gem?

by Higz on May 8, 2006 4:11 PM PDT reply actions

Good point....

Our bullpen isn't really the problem.

by HeyLegacy on May 8, 2006 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions

and I'm retarded because

I'm thinking of tomorrow and was only able just now (at work) to check the gameday play-by-play

by Higz on May 8, 2006 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Goofs

Blue Jays: 8, 5 ER vs. Weaver
Angels: 2, all against whatever reliever comes on to relieve Halladay.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on May 8, 2006 4:11 PM PDT reply actions

Ol' "Don't Pass" Ducky

he's at it again, folks.

ducky, you'll find a friend over at the Blue Jays blog.

by yeswecan on May 8, 2006 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Blue Jays blog

they have the internet in Canada?

by Higz on May 8, 2006 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions

EAT THAT!

Heh!

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on May 8, 2006 4:16 PM PDT reply actions

You just know

that Bengie taught him that and the BJs are all like "DUDE, CAN'T YOU KEEP A SECRET, EH?"

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 4:18 PM PDT reply actions

Eh

I love that you threw that in there

by HeyLegacy on May 8, 2006 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions

What's Up?

W/ Mike jawwing @ the ump?

Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 8, 2006 4:21 PM PDT reply actions

Did I hear the Rory Markus right?

"Alice Cooper is here"

Why is Alice Cooper at a Blue Jays game?

Howie Meter (AAA): 24 for 61, .393 AVG
Howie Meter (MLB): 3 for 18, .166 AVG :(

by NPCody on May 8, 2006 4:24 PM PDT reply actions

I'm sure

he's rooting for the Angels

by Higz on May 8, 2006 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions

funny story...

Alice, North Dakota. A town of probably a hundred or so is having some celebration (100th year maybe) and they asked Alice Cooper if he'd come. Sure enough, he said yes!

Needless to say, he's not a busy guy these days. Still must be pretty cool though.

by thewebb on May 8, 2006 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Because school's out?

by UK Halo on May 8, 2006 4:25 PM PDT reply actions

HAHA

by Higz on May 8, 2006 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Bengie's shaved off his beard

That's one way to lose weight...

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on May 8, 2006 4:36 PM PDT reply actions

Hey

He'll take what he can get

by HeyLegacy on May 8, 2006 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions

It will make him quicker to 1st base

by UK Halo on May 8, 2006 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions

angels are 0-for-3 already

we're gonna have to start counting angel hits per INNING, instead of per at-bat.

by yeswecan on May 8, 2006 4:37 PM PDT reply actions

Hey...

If you squint, Tommy Murphy looks just like Ersty out there in CF.

Howie Meter (AAA): 24 for 61, .393 AVG
Howie Meter (MLB): 3 for 18, .166 AVG :(

by NPCody on May 8, 2006 4:40 PM PDT reply actions

And Napoli

looks like a younger/bigger Adam Kennedy...

History repeating itself?

by HeyLegacy on May 8, 2006 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions

good weave

so far it seems like Good Weave out there.

let's go halos

by yeswecan on May 8, 2006 4:45 PM PDT reply actions

all he needs is some run support

by UK Halo on May 8, 2006 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Whatever happened

to pressuring the defense?

Figgy shoudl have had 3B on Cabrera's tapper - but Scioscia has abandoned his managerial philosophy in a panic.

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 4:50 PM PDT reply actions

Nah

They have just all forgotten to do when they get on base.

by UK Halo on May 8, 2006 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Navidad en el Barrio

is going to suffer if we don't start hitting some home runs!

Come on guys! Hit one for the children!

by HeyLegacy on May 8, 2006 5:00 PM PDT reply actions

way to go, Weave!

hangin' tough, like New Kids on the Block.

by yeswecan on May 8, 2006 5:00 PM PDT reply actions

Not so much

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on May 8, 2006 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions

nice try

weaver was pitching well up until then. i gave him kudos because he deserved it. god knows an angel would have to cure cancer to get a word of praise from you...

by yeswecan on May 8, 2006 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Ouch

B-Mo... so clutch...

Howie Meter (AAA): 24 for 61, .393 AVG
Howie Meter (MLB): 3 for 18, .166 AVG :(

by NPCody on May 8, 2006 5:11 PM PDT reply actions

Finally

He's been trying to do that for 4days now

Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 8, 2006 5:12 PM PDT reply actions

WHA HAPPENED??

I left at 0-0 to pick up the kid from pre-school and got back to a 0-3 game..... waaahhhhhh

by ladybug on May 8, 2006 5:13 PM PDT reply actions

First Glaus yesterday

now benjie takes us deep...3 runs scored this game its over red rover... I cant even dream of the Angels scoring three runs...

Get the jet ready for Chi town

We definately couldn't use Glaus the last two years!

Halo Fever P239

by P237 on May 8, 2006 5:13 PM PDT reply actions

First

it was Glaus, then Benjie.

Let's hope Shoenweiss doesn't pinch hit later.

by UK Halo on May 8, 2006 5:13 PM PDT reply actions

No hitter through 4

Weaver with the big inning...1 run scored is a big inning against the Halo offense

Halo Fever P239

by P237 on May 8, 2006 5:15 PM PDT reply actions

HOLY HOMERUN, BATMAN

by ladybug on May 8, 2006 5:16 PM PDT reply actions

ANGELS

SUCK

Halo Fever P239

by P237 on May 8, 2006 5:16 PM PDT reply actions

Hey, yeswecan

You ready to cry uncle yet?

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on May 8, 2006 5:16 PM PDT reply actions

unlike you

i want the angels to win even when they're not playing well. i'll criticize them when they're not getting it done, but i'll praise them when they are.

it's funny how you only show up here when they're not playing well.

have you officially called the season over? i'm actually shocked you've waited this long.

by yeswecan on May 8, 2006 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions

No fair, Rob, you have TWO teams to root for.

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions

CHI Town

Here we come. I'm giving up, I'm going to fly to CHI-Town and be at the game on Wed, hopefully I can bring some luck, we're going to need something.

Halo Hotline

by ScottD00 on May 8, 2006 5:16 PM PDT reply actions

Angels Need

their greenies back

Halo Fever P239

by P237 on May 8, 2006 5:17 PM PDT reply actions

It's really depressing

to realize that the Angels have no chance of winning any game in which the opposition scores 3 runs or more. There's the occasional fluke, such as Thursday (?) against Detroit when the team somehow lucked into 7 runs. But that can't happen more than once every 7-10 days.

Depressing.

It's almost comical watching how bad the lineup is collectively. I mean, we're talking K.C. Royals, but with decent pitching.

by jjackflash on May 8, 2006 5:18 PM PDT reply actions

And it cost over 100 milllion

Halo Country

by cupie on May 8, 2006 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions

What BS

These are kids. This is going to be a tough year, no getting around that. But there is NO, and I repeat NO, similarity to Kansas City's situation. How many players do the Royals have in BA's top 100? Three. How many players did the Angels have? Seven.

And while I'm writing this, Tommy Murphy doubles and OCab hits him home.

Sheesh.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on May 8, 2006 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions

too bad

you'd hate for the angels to make a comeback.

by yeswecan on May 8, 2006 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Suck it up

So far I've been right about this game. I don't think it's going to be this way all season, but I don't see any immediate improvements.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on May 8, 2006 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions

But we want you to be wrong!

The question, then, is:
What is more important: The Angels winning or you being right?

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Good for you

I understand all that, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em. Weaver is mediocre, Toronto can hit, and the Angels can't right now.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on May 8, 2006 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions

Is that a yes or a no?

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions

It's a mu

I'll be happy if the Angels win, but as currently constituted, I don't think they can. You seem to view this as "believe the Angels are going to win or you're not a true fan" or something like that. I'm not buyin'.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on May 8, 2006 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions

take your brilliance to Vegas

you'll get something for it there. here, you'll get the Benedict Arnold treatment.

by yeswecan on May 8, 2006 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Christ you're being a dick

I'm sorry, that's just uncalled for.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on May 8, 2006 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm with you on that one, Rob

Who pissed in your cheerios, Wayne?

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Lets see who pissed in our cheerios

White Sox
A's
Tigers
BlueJays

every team we have played the last two weeks

Halo Fever P239

by P237 on May 9, 2006 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions

Uh Oh

So you are just going to mask YOUR negativity about the Angels by being EXTRA-BITTER at other fans who attempt any objective analysis?

I feel like a damn shrink!

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Propaganda

Remember last year, when Steve Finley was DUE every at-bat, Rex and Steve pumping him up, talking a great game about how close he was?

And he never was...

This year it is Mickey Hatcher.

As Vlad grounds into a double play, Steve Physioc does not miss a beat in remindig us all in teevee land that it was MICKEY HATCHER who led the Angels to a World Series and Two Division Titles in three of the past four years.

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:28 PM PDT reply actions

I was sure it was

the Rally Monkey

by UK Halo on May 8, 2006 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions

THE Moreno Administration

Really downplays the Monkey - it is almost tasteful how understated the Seraph-Simian is.

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions

NEW NICKNAME

ICKEY Hatcher

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:29 PM PDT reply actions

Tommy Murphy Double

He is new here - quick, ICKEY, ruin his swing like you did Casey Kotchman.

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:29 PM PDT reply actions

mickey's got to be getting some heat

and i hope he's gonna sweat down some of these "batters" we've got.

by yeswecan on May 8, 2006 5:29 PM PDT reply actions

HE SWEATS NOBODY

He's 51, looks 63 and obviously hasn't been of help to anyone on this team the past two years.

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions

turn the heat around

neither scioscia nor stoneman's gonna do anything right now. but if hatcher can't get these guys to turn it around, then maybe it's time for someone else.

by yeswecan on May 8, 2006 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions

So they're kids

I'm just starting to think that maybe the kids just aren't all they're cracked up to be.

I know, I know, there are lots of starts who had crappy rookie seasons.

But Oakland's kids seem to be able to come up to the big leagues and perform admirably.

As some (including you, I believe) have pointed out, the Angels' prospects don't get on base and don't hit for power, for the most part. Their OBP tends to be average-based. If they're not hitting, they don't get on at all, and when they do hit, they hit singles.

Even Vlad no longer seems to be able to hit for any power.

Once again, I look at Mickey Hatcher...it seems that the more time hitters spend around him, the worse they get.

by jjackflash on May 8, 2006 5:32 PM PDT reply actions

oaklands kids

usually come up when they are 25 or 26 instead of 22 or 23 like most of ours..

by hathaway93 on May 8, 2006 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions

HA

Tell that to Dan Johnson, he didn't know he was supposed to perform admirably with Oakland this season....

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions

correction

Er, that is, there are lots of stars who've had crappy rookie seasons.

by jjackflash on May 8, 2006 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions

I think so far

Howie has proven that he can get on base even when he is not getting hits. I believe that the Angels suffer from a difference in opinion or lack of direction. They bring up Howie to fit him and move him around the diamond, they weren't paient with Mathis and put him in the position to fail (partly due to the offensive ineptitude of JOMO) rather than a position to thrive, and Sosh has a tendency to rely on vets who are useless (see Alfonso) rather than finding a way to get the new blood at bats. I don't know if the problem lies with Sosh, Stoneman, or both (most likely) but issues such as these need to be solved so the Angels have the ability to make a strong push in the second half.

The main difference between the A's and Angles prospects is experience based. Oakland rookies such as Swisher (who was struggled last season) and Huston Street had college experience before the minor leagues to add to their skillset.

by riktermiller on May 8, 2006 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions

About Vlad not hitting for power

Ahem. Vlad's in second place in SLG on the team, only following Mike Napoli. (Mr. Small Sample Size reminds us 11 AB is hardly a large enough number to tell how good he'll be.)

The real problem is Vlad's lack of extra-base production outside of homers. He's near the bottom of team doubles production, and I wonder if that's maybe not a problem with his speed.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on May 8, 2006 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Squeakers

His singles seem to have been quite a few squeakers.

His speed in the outfield seems as good as ever.

He has hit so many AT 'EMS that WOULDA been doubles in other seasons...

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Hit List

Edgardo Alfonso
Esteban Yan
Mickey Hatcher - hitting coach may be the toughest coaching job but Hatcher has never been a hitter making the job impossible.

by riktermiller on May 8, 2006 5:32 PM PDT reply actions

Bulger

If Jason Bulger continues to keep his ERA under 1.00 and strikes guys out left and right, as he is doing at SLC, I can't see how they can reasonably keep the sweet potato on the roster.

by jjackflash on May 8, 2006 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions

The problem hasn't been

the pitching, either the starters or the bullpen.

by UK Halo on May 8, 2006 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions

true

but if the offense isn't there every pitcher on the staff has to be able to be a stopper. If Yan is put into close games and continues to hand out runs there is no way the Angels can hit enough to come back. So further strenghtening the pitching staff will benefit the offense.

by riktermiller on May 8, 2006 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Juan Rivera

Not grounding out on the first pitch in favor of striking out on the 5th.

Uh...

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:35 PM PDT reply actions

So if

Casey is TOO TIRED from the Mono to do his drills in Batting Practice, why is he not on the DL?

Oh crap, I sound like Mike DiGiovanna....

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2006 5:39 PM PDT reply actions

Dallas

is going to K and not going to look good but if Casey needs time to heal/rest they need to let Dallas get some hacks and run into a few balls. What can it hurt?

by riktermiller on May 8, 2006 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions