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Bill Stoneman Compared to Other Angel GMs

How does Bill rack up against past Angel GMs?

I ran the numbers, of course.  You can see the full list there, but the highlights:

  • 1st in wins (703, ahead of Fred Haney's 614);
  • 1st in winning percentage (.542, ahead of Mike Port's .517 -- the only two Angel GMs with a winning percentage above .500);
  • 1st in divisional titles (3, Bavasi I had 2, and it's not just a product of the smaller divisions, as he's also:)
  • 1st in .500+ seasons (6, ahead of Port's and Bavasi I's 4 apiece);
  • 1st in 90+-win seasons (4, ahead of Port's 3); and
  • 1st in 95+win seasons (2, no one else had any).
  • And, it goes without saying, first in World Championships.

Nobody's perfect, but that's nothing to be ashamed of.

Thank you, Bill.

Poll
Who is the greatest GM in Angel history?
Bill Stoneman (2000-2007)
77 votes
Fred Haney (1961-1968)
0 votes
Dick Walsh (1969-1971)
1 votes
Harry Dalton (1972-1977)
1 votes
Buzzie Bavasi (1978-1984)
1 votes
Mike Port (1985-1991)
0 votes
Dan O'Brien (1991-1993)
0 votes
Whitey Herzog (1993)
4 votes
Bill Bavasi (1994-1999)
2 votes

86 votes | Poll has closed

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DICK WALSH
He did trade Fregosi for Nolan Ryan... but i still gotta go with Sotneman.

by Rev Halofan on Oct 16, 2007 3:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bill got the benefit
of being in the steroid era and the divisions  were expanded and we have the wild card and and and......

by SCHalo on Oct 16, 2007 4:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And
every other GM in the game between 2000 and the present has had the exact same benefits.

by jjackflash on Oct 16, 2007 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly
i'm just showing my support for stones.  he did a great job.

by SCHalo on Oct 17, 2007 4:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Job!
 I think his hires in the front office along with players he acquired through Free Agency and trades should be factored in when one tries to judge how well he did as the GM.
 The big league staff was, and still is considered one of the best in baseball. That was his call. Not to mention 2 coaches have gone on to become managers at the big league level. New Scouting Director and staff changes in the scouting department.
 No matter what when he arrived the California Angels/Anaheim Angels had never won a WS. Nobody can take that away. He also leaves his GM post with the organization in much better shape then it was when he arrived.
 Sure he had bad deals, but so does ever GM the whole ideas is you make fewer bad ones, and enough good ones.
 The inability to make trades to push the Angels over the hump might have hurt, and word on the street is other GM's found it hard to deal/trade with Stoneman. In my opinion that is what has made him the former GM.
 He gets my vote as the best GM the Angels have had. After all he never said anything like Buzzie Bavasi said when Bavasi was quoted as saying he could get 2 pitchers that could go 8-7 for a lot cheaper then the 1 million it would take to keep Nolan Ryan's 16-14.
 In this game one is judged on wins and losses . HE WON!!

by Angel Aviator on Oct 16, 2007 7:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Definitely #1, hands-down!
He wasn't flashy, nor braggy (like Dodger GM Kevin "The New Sheriff in Town" Malone), but he was steady.  And he was the point man in making this franchise the best in baseball.  

He built it, and they came ...........

by PieceOfAase on Oct 17, 2007 12:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Toss-up
Between Stoneman and Haney.

Remember, the '62 Angels -- second year of existence -- gave the YankMe's a run for their money.

Haney was the guy who put that team together, from literally nothing.

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Oct 17, 2007 8:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoever signed Von Hayes gets my vote.
The person who signed Kelly Gruber comes in a close second.
since 1961

by Chompo on Oct 17, 2007 3:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The problem with Stoney dominating the poll...
is the shoes the next guy has to fill. If Reagin isn't the best GM ever, everybody will be bitching and carrying torches.

Even the Stoneman haters will be nostalgic for the days when we had no bat.

by The Clyde on Oct 18, 2007 8:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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