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Angel Blogs on the Cabrera for Garland Trade

Halosphere Roll Call:

Rob 6-4-2:
Garland's upside, despite being only 28, is pretty limited.

The Chronicler has the line of the day:
it appears that major league baseball teams have the ability to exchange players with other teams. Did you know this?

Chone Smith on Garland:
He's not going to contend for a Cy Young, but should give us 200 innings of about league average pitching.

Joe Florkowski on Cabrera:
He was also a good glue guy in the clubhouse and is a good friend to Vladimir Guerrero.

Bill "Shredder" Seitz:
... they're better right now than they were yesterday. The rotation is deeper, and I think Maicer Izturis could, health permitting, play 145 games at shortstop...

Rich Lederer:
I don't understand this trade unless Arte Moreno caught OC in bed with his wife.

My take: I will miss OC, but the future looks bright ahead.

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I agree
The future does look bright..........Plus, the duck will point out a downside to a fuckin W.S Ring.

by AlohaHalofan on Nov 20, 2007 12:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I read his take before I posted
 and surprisingly he was somewhat optimistic. It was just a joke..........

by AlohaHalofan on Nov 20, 2007 12:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope this guy can pitch
on those very long, hot, Anahiem afternoons.
"We're still in the information-gathering process," Reagins said.

by 44FAN on Nov 20, 2007 1:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Lookout Landing
might be right. The Angels are most likely chaning hears a bit and going with a unprecedented SIX to NINE man rotation to ease the strain on their superstars arms. Lackey could most likely pitch for another 5 maybe 22 years with a nine man rotation.

But yes, Orlando Cabrera is probably the best shortstop of all time. Trading him is so shocking, I almost made a blog about it. I still might. Here are some stats of mine for you to compare

AaWF (Awesomeness and Win Factors)

Orlando "Wizard of the OC" Cabrera
2002 60
2003 62
2004 105
2005 1245
2006 3212
2007 over 9000!!!

John "Im Really Terrible" Garland
2002 like 5
2003 4
2004 around maybe like 20
2005 2
2006 3(maybe)
2007 0 if that

As you can see, my statisics I complied through my own investigations coupled heavily with lots of talks with the really insightful people at lookout landing have produced this amazingly accurate list.

As you can see OC really took off when he became an Angel (go Angels lol) in the awesome and win shares. Jon Garland has, and always will suck.

This is what our rotation will probably look like next year

1 Lackey (Donkey man?)
2 Escobar (Awesome Myspace Cybormaster)
3 Weaver (Dreamcatcher's Weave!)
4 Garland (Sucks)
5 Santana (Those arm tatoos are SWEET)
6 Saunders (Hes the vanilla to my Angels Ice Cream world)
7 Moseley (more like Nosebleed!)
8 Bootcheck (If you dont check those boots, you might track in mud, like Garland)
9 Adenhart (Hes already stolen my heart)

Thats a solid rotation, although I am concerned. The Angels most likely need to trade someone to solidify the six and seven spots, cause they look shakey to me. I think a package of Garret Anderson (omg he doesnt run!) Some guy in A ball, and Bud Black for Johan Santana and F. Liriananonoo is a solid package. I mean, I like those Angels.. but we dont really need them, and I hear those other two pitchers have AaWFs of like 600 at least.

We are gonna really have to compete, I hear this guy named Chow Some Beak or something  is really gonna have a breakout- Cy Young like year along with some prince guy and someone with washboard abs. From what I hear the angels, even with that really neat new 9 man rot., are basicaly wild card bound. Im scared of this guy named Guillen. I went to a game at Safeco once and he told me he was going to eat my popcorn and steal my car because I  looked at him funny.

All and all, I cant wait for tomorrow, I hope for more pitching. And, can someone please trade that Willits guy? He has a wierd face at the plate that makes him look like hes taking a poop while batting. That monopoly belongs to Tim Salmon damnit.

by Pwn on Nov 20, 2007 4:22 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Come on...
This may be the worst post I've ever read

by RH15 on Nov 20, 2007 10:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol
thats the point, have you no sense of humor?

Also, they are posting equally as crappy stuff over at LL.

by Pwn on Nov 20, 2007 1:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I am going to ban PWN from this site
just because I want to be a power mad raging bastard and use an incompetent thinker like PWN as an example to the community about not coming here to take shit in the middle of the festivities.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 20, 2007 7:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What?
That doesn't make any sense. It was obviously a post that wasn't supposed to be serious. Who put you in charge of a blog website? I thought you were supposed to let other people express vies and opinions without singling people out and demonstrating clear favoritism. Chill out, Im not flaming anyone cept for LL, and Im not trolling like you are on your own boards.

by Pwn on Nov 20, 2007 8:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Your first mistake...
was trying to pimp your nebulous AaWF stat. You should know that PHIL is far more refined and concrete.

by Higz on Nov 21, 2007 10:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Boo!
I see red people

by The Limey on Nov 21, 2007 2:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just wanted to rile his ass up
It is not like on Kidney Pie Rock where posting privileges depend on what school your great great grandfather attended...

by Rev Halofan on Nov 21, 2007 11:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mission Accomplished
for I am riled.

Good game.

by Pwn on Nov 21, 2007 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kidney pie rock?
Steak and Kidney Pie Rock to you, sir. And if by that you mean, as I presume you do, Great Britain (emphasis on the word Great), then the only posting privileges my great great Grandfather had were in India, where he had a Sepoy to run around after him (shortly before the little bugger tried to shoot him).  Happily, bearing in mind the outcome, he hasn't passed those privileges on to me (though I did get go to a very good school, so I'm sure my great great grandchildren should be fine on Halos Heaven).
I see red people

by The Limey on Nov 21, 2007 2:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mad Cow and Kidney Pie Rock
Where every school is a great school by American standards until the Oxford admissions results are annoucned.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 21, 2007 9:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They're all great schools by US standards...
...that goes without saying.  It's once the Oxford and Cambridge admissions results are announced that we sort which are very good schools and which are just great by US standards.

Happy thanksgiving to you lot - have a nice weekend, I'm  off to work.

I see red people

by The Limey on Nov 22, 2007 12:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"Manuvering Room"
ESPN 710 SportsCenter quoted Reagins as saying the trade provided "Manuvering Room" (note, I may have the quote slightly wrong).

This tells me that it's a prelude to more to come.

Quite a change from Stoneman.

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Nov 20, 2007 9:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Trades are coming:
A possible deal in the works between the Angels and Marlins may include both M. Cabrera and D. Uggla for a quartet of young prospects (Kendrick, Santana, Adenhart, Wood). Both Cabrera and Uggla have shown excellent power in a pitcher's ballpark in Florida. These are proven players. I hate to lose Howie but... I would make this deal in a heartbeat. Ya gotta give something to get something. Plus, the Angels have many more prospects at the lower levels.

by matt92130 on Nov 20, 2007 3:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Link?
Um.........

by hauldog on Nov 20, 2007 5:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Uggla
Here in Philly I get to see the guy tear up the Phillies all the time, if Uggla were to be included you have to do it.  The guy hits for power and is young.  His average dropped this year, but that doesn't scare me.  He's a sparkplug and would fit nicely on a team like the Angels.

by ghostofwallyjoyner on Nov 21, 2007 12:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Stark's latest, it seems like Angels still lead
CABRERA-VILLE
He has more career hits than Milton Bradley or Doug Mientkiewicz -- but he's younger than Hunter Pence or Andre Ethier. So what would you give up for a 24-year-old hit factory like Miguel Cabrera? That's the question the Angels, Dodgers, White Sox and Giants are pondering these days.

Well, here's the Marlins' asking price: Four players, none of them with more than three years of big league service, all with a similar profile to the young future superstars the Twins are asking for Santana.

There is one major difference between Cabrera and Santana, however: Cabrera is two years away from free agency. So a team trading for him wouldn't also have to throw 150 million bucks at him -- yet -- because the Marlins have no plans to allow any negotiating windows.

But the price in talent is still so steep that the Angels would probably have no choice but to include Howie Kendrick and their top pitching prospect, Nick Adenhart. The Dodgers would almost certainly have to build their deal around Kershaw and James Loney.

The Giants would be likely to have to give up either Matt Cain or Tim Lincecum, but might not have enough position-player prospects to get this done. And the White Sox have the opposite problem. Center fielder Jerry Owens and third baseman Josh Fields would be a good fit for Florida's needs, but the Sox might be short on the arms the Marlins are looking for, especially after dealing away Jon Garland this week.

That Garland trade could still be a prelude to a deal for Cabrera, though. Just not with the White Sox.

The Angels appeared to need one more arm to assemble the kind of package Florida is after. So now that they've added Garland to their inventory, they just might have solved that pesky little dilemma.

"When I heard about that [Garland] deal, I said, 'Watch out for the Angels,'" says an official of one team that has been involved in the Cabrera talks. "If [new GM] Tony Reagins can bring in Garland and Cabrera, he'll have done a hell of a job in a real short time."

by ghostofwallyjoyner on Nov 21, 2007 12:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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