Cabrera in shape?

by Sinatrasratpack on Dec 4, 2007 8:02 AM PST

Apparantly Mike Napoli has been working out with Miguel FatCab. Miggy has claimed that his oath to get into shape is working, most would think this is a ploy to eleviate any concerns about his bad habits. But Napoli has confirmed this and says, "He looks, good.... He's starting to slim down, and he's getting real strong."
If our main concern about this guy is his weight, defense at third being second, maybe this is the best time to pull the trigger. I love Howie and think he will be a star. But you have to remember that our younger guys are all 'possibly' going to be stars this guy is the real deal. think of it as getting rid of a pitcher who's a head case (Santana) and a great young second baseman to get the future A-Rod.
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ESPN's Tim Kurkjian

reported yesterday that Cabrera had hired a personal trainer for the offseason. No word, though, on if it was Dom Deluise or not.

Captain, there are doubt's...

by Match Day 5 on Dec 4, 2007 8:12 AM PST reply actions

Yeah...

I'm in. All my chips are in. I am pulling my weight and the weight that M-Cab dropped to ask for this deal to be done.

by Jay Cal on Dec 4, 2007 8:13 AM PST reply actions

NAPOLI TAKEN SIDES

SO IS NAPOLI ON HIS SIDE SO THEY WILL GET RID OF MATHIS OR BECAUSE ITS BETTER FOR THE TEAM?

by MOJOJAZZ72 on Dec 4, 2007 8:45 AM PST reply actions

The two of them

just happen to use the same fat-guy trainer.

Why Isn't 4 On The Wall?

by Retire4 on Dec 4, 2007 10:00 AM PST up reply actions

i get the impression

that this deal isnt going to happen.

i feel like the marlins will come back to us one more time, make an offer we dont like, and then miguel will play for florida this year.

i just dont get good vibes from this one anymore.

by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 4, 2007 8:57 AM PST reply actions

Pretty much correct.

The Marlins don't have to trade him, so unless someone offers up the farm, literally and figuratively, they're not going to do it.

Captain, there are doubt's...

by Match Day 5 on Dec 4, 2007 1:19 PM PST up reply actions

Howie "IS" a star

not "probably" -- he's already proved himself this season by posting great numbers in spite of repeat injuries.

But, if you want to trade one star for another, fill one hole while creating another, while taking on extra salary and dumping several good prospects, then by all means -- go ahead and screw the team up.

Well, I think everyone knows my opinion now.

I'm a gutless, two-faced little b!tch.

by Los Angeles de Anaheim on Dec 4, 2007 8:59 AM PST reply actions

create a hole?

if they traded for cabrera without dealing kendrick, where, sir, do you feel figgins would play?

because hes not playing short.

well?

its either figgins at third and howie at 2nd or figgins at 2nd and cabrera at 3rd.

i dont see the hole created. izturis and aybar have short.

by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 4, 2007 9:01 AM PST up reply actions

should also mention

that howie would be the only player youd miss. nobody gave a damn about mathis except for 2 months last year and we have conger arriving in 2 years probably.

we're not dealing both adenhart and santana so either way, wed still have a full rotation +1 starter waiting.

reggie willits, if he was a 4th player, isnt seeing any playing time on this team anymore anyway.

in comparison to the dodgers, who would have to be dealing their best pitching prospect, starting center fielder, starting 3rd baseman or starting 1st baseman, this trade would hurt our team the least.

same with the white sox. they already have a weak rotation. what are they gonna do? trade their pitching prospects looking to fill in this year or next?

we would lose a starting 2nd baseman and he would be replaced by the guy who hit .330 for us last year and has started for us for 5 years.

by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 4, 2007 9:05 AM PST up reply actions

And you proved my point

Figgins is playing either way, so why bother trading for Cabrera?

I'm a gutless, two-faced little b!tch.

by Los Angeles de Anaheim on Dec 4, 2007 9:07 AM PST up reply actions

Because

He is way better than Howie will ever be. Bottom line.

Wherever Red Sox Nation is, I just wish Bush would invade it. President: Miggy C Man-Crush Club

by agermer on Dec 4, 2007 9:30 AM PST up reply actions

Figgins is not on par with Howie/Cabrera

He's dang-good filler, but not the same. So there's a "hole" either way, because Figgins will be playing.

By keeping Howie and forgetting Cabrera, we prepare ourselves for the impending return of the great Dallas McPherson.

Seriously though, we let throw down the gauntlet for our own players to fill 3B.

I'm a gutless, two-faced little b!tch.

by Los Angeles de Anaheim on Dec 4, 2007 9:05 AM PST up reply actions

dallas mcpherson

thank you for proving MY point.

heres to another year of losing in the playoffs when we cant score runs against good pitching.

howie kendrick is great, one of my favorite players on the team, but this is so stupid.

miguel and vlad and hunter in the middle of the line up makes EVERYONE on the team better. specifically hitters in the 1 and 2 spots will be seeing so many strikes.

vlad + hunter and anderson with howie hitting 7th or 8th will sure be fun.

not.

by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 4, 2007 9:12 AM PST up reply actions

You said yourself

We'll use Figgins either way, so there's no difference, other than an extra 10 HR's a year. But HK will be even better. Kotch will be even better. NapThis will be a better duo. Figgins? Will probably regress a bit. Plus no more Willits. GA/Vlad/Hunter/Matthews is a solid OF/DH combo.

But our improved offense will easily make up for the the difference and will help us avoid selling out our future.

I'm a gutless, two-faced little b!tch.

by Los Angeles de Anaheim on Dec 4, 2007 9:18 AM PST up reply actions

Really is howie a star?

Don't get me wrong This kid is going to be awesome. But No he is not a star, he is a future star. M Cab IS a star.
Will Howie win a batting title one day...probably
but until he does for a FULL season it is all speculation.
Get the guy with the Guaranteed 30+ HRs .315+ BA

And it doesnt create a hole, Figgy plays second 80% of the time with Itzuris playing the rest.

by Sinatrasratpack on Dec 4, 2007 11:38 AM PST up reply actions

Ken Robitussin

Blockbuster?

by Bilko 420 on Dec 4, 2007 9:04 AM PST reply actions

Robitussin?

Sports columnists now have corporate sponsorship?

Good for the Tigers... I hope they save us from our own stupidity.

I'm a gutless, two-faced little b!tch.

by Los Angeles de Anaheim on Dec 4, 2007 9:08 AM PST up reply actions

haha

oh my god.

if that happened, wed have no chance in the playoffs for the next 5 years between detroit, cleveland, new york and boston

by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 4, 2007 9:09 AM PST up reply actions

It's just smoke

Marlins said the other day they weren't trading Dontrelle... they're simply trying to scare us into signing us into a lopsided deal.

I'm a gutless, two-faced little b!tch.

by Los Angeles de Anaheim on Dec 4, 2007 9:12 AM PST up reply actions

Seriously

Howie Kendrick, Jeff Mathis, Reggie Willits and Nick Adenhart sounds like a pretty sweet offer...

by Bilko 420 on Dec 4, 2007 9:17 AM PST up reply actions

And when Napoli is injured

we won't have a catcher. Besides, FLA balked at that offer and is demanding a Santana/Saunders.

I'm a gutless, two-faced little b!tch.

by Los Angeles de Anaheim on Dec 4, 2007 9:20 AM PST up reply actions

man, you love prospects

im pretty sure the team wouldnt hesitate to trade for a solid, cheap defensive catcher if we got rid of mathis.

mathis was a non factor offensively so i dont get what the big problem with losing him is. you can get his defense form anywhere.

i think you just tie your heart to homegrown prospects and overvalue them.

do you think detroit would be sulking if they win a world series next year with cabrera and dontrelle but in 4 years they dont have maybin and miller, two guys who are as of now huge risks?

not unlike wood and adenhart.

by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 4, 2007 9:33 AM PST up reply actions