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angels vs dodgers last night: the fans

As a life long Angels fan never have I seen a sicker display, chants that included the F word, a lady screaming so loudly about nothing that literally a halo surrounded her because people were being driven away and countless other class less actions occurred all while the security and ushers did nothing but stand idly by.  While little children had to be exposed to this.  Were most of these actions done by those in blue?  No, the lack of class belonged to us in red more often than not (at least in my section).

I love the game of baseball and especially the Angels but we all know that ultimately we are simply rooting for laundry, and the display put on by the fans last night not only made me leave early but it made me apologize to the people seated next to me who were Dodgers fans.  I can stand a little bit of stupidity but what was seen last night made me for the first time in my life leave an Angels game early because of fan activity.  It almost made me long for the years before the Angels won it all, when we were vry much the clippers to the dodgers lakers, then at least we wouldn't get so many idiotic fair weather fans.

Last night was 38,000 fans trying to enjoy themselves, it's a shame that 6,000 idiots ruined it for others.  Arte needs to do a lot of work to make the atmosphere more friendly or else when I have kids I simply won't go, and he doesn't want that.  You don't want to drive away the people who come to over 30 games a year, they spend and spend and spend.

Oh and if the lady who was screaming in section 230 last night reads this, even your child asked you to stop, that should tell you something.  Maybe next time you will take her advice.

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Yeah and Dodger fans are saints
The Dodger fans weren't acting up because they were outnumbered greatly.

Last time I checked Chavez Ravine wasn't full of priests and nuns. There are idiot sport fans of every stripe.

DarkAngel hath spoken....

by darkangel01 on May 19, 2007 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Totally agree
and this is why I can't WAIT to upgrade my tickets to something closer down.  The more expensive the seats, the better the quality of your neighbors.  I have yet to see this rule violated.
Ervin Santana To AAA! (But only for road games.)

by scareduck on May 19, 2007 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

So that's why...
My time at the Right Field Pavilion at Dodger Stadium last year had me nervous.

by Sweetmeats on May 19, 2007 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting...
Every time I go to a Dodger vs. Angels game at Angel Stadium I find it the Dodger fans who are rude. Don't even try going to the freeway series at Dodger Stadium. You're likely to get jumped.

by Sweetmeats on May 19, 2007 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

the fans
oh i am not saying the dodgers fans can't be jerks, and that they weren't out numbered.

it's just last night the behavior encompassed the lowest of the low.

retire number fifteen.

by rowast on May 19, 2007 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

honestly
Fuck that. I nearly got killed last time I was in Dodger stadium because I was wearing red during the Angels game. I don't give a shit how bad Dodger fans get treated in Anaheim because frankly, at least we aren't throwing punches and beers. I don't care about "class" and "just enjoying the game," because I have only feared for my safety once, and it was in Dodger stadium, in plain view of ushers. Let those bastards have it...if even one guy who threw as much as a peanut at me last year was in the stands and got harassed, then it's all worth it. The fact of the matter is that this is a rivalry in which the Dodger fans are the clear agressors, and I'll be damned if there's anything wrong with some fucking self defense. Screw them. If they don't want to feel uncomfortable, then they shouldn't come to games at the Big A, the same way I won't go to the Freeway Series at Chavez Ravine. THEY ruined it, not me, and now they get what they deserve.
East coast bias

by Carl Johnson on May 19, 2007 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

oh
And as far as bringing your kids to the games, as far as I'm concerned, this is not a game you should bring your kid to. I feel the same way about college hockey...if you KNOW that the crowd is going to be profane and obnoxious, then it's not their fault for being so, it's YOUR fault for bringing your kids into that environment. That's like complaining that the envoronment in a bar isn't conducive to creating proper family values. I'm not happy with the state of affairs, nad I wish fans were more civil overall, but come on, you've gotta be smart about this type of thing.

The best is at Northeastern's hockey games when we play BU, and a bunch of BU alumni come to the game and are shocked when they hear chants. YOU WERE STUDENTS ONCE. YOU SHOULD know. Don't feign this "NU fans are hellish teenagers" bullshit when YOU do the same thing to us, at age 55, in your own arena. Parents, honestly, get a clue. Sports have never been about family.

East coast bias

by Carl Johnson on May 19, 2007 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

f that
A guy can't bring his son to a baseball game?  WTF?  Big difference between college hockey and baseball.  Hell, big different between football and baseball.

America's past time.  Should be able to bring your family.  Leave the BS to the idiots in Boston/New York, etc.

by thewebb on May 19, 2007 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

You say you almost got killed.......
 Did you even get touched much less punched by someone? Cry me a river. Newfoundnoise's point was that its an embaressment for angels fans to see our own act like this, by stooping to there level. It is lame and I agree with this diary 100%. Its bullshit that that stuff goes on and I thought angels stadium was less tolerable of that kind of behavior, I guess not eh.........and as far a your comments below, sports is for family, and fuck hockey and the east coast.

by AlohaHalofan on May 19, 2007 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

fyi
Yeah, I got punched in the side and pushed over some seats. The guys in front of me who got hit with the $75 beers ran up a couple rows and started beating the shit out of some other guys.

And way to close, buddy. is FUCK HOCKEY LOL OMG EAST COAST SUX!!!!!1 the best you can come up with?

East coast bias

by Carl Johnson on May 19, 2007 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

How do you regulate this?
To have a masive show of security would only fill the Anaheim jail.

In 2004, the Angels gave out thundersticks as a promotion  a few times during the season - remember those? Wanna know why they do not giev them out anymore? Because they gave them out to everyone entering a Dodger-Angel game - HMMM, let's have a few beers and then goad the shit out of a drunken fan for the other team.

Bottom Line - the only time i was EVER scared at ANgel Stadium, the only time I saw BLOOD at Angel stadium and the only time I saw Ushers pacing the concourse demanding tha tfans standing behind the seating areas to PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEAT NOW in absolute authoritarian tones.

The fact that they ended this promotion shows that the team is taking thuggery serious - but at some point you will have to back down form the notion of the ballpark as a family alternative to visiting the Crystal Cathedral's Miracle of Easter Pageant.

by Rev Halofan on May 19, 2007 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am an employee of the CC...
but if I ever have to sit through another bad Glory of Easter performance, I will be sure to bring a flask with me.

Then I'd probably beat Judas with my thundersticks...

I should be working right now...

by thrill000 on May 21, 2007 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your right
At some points the ballpark is not the family alternative. Obviously when these teams come to town its probably not the best place to take your kids. Does that make it okay though?  I don't think so, and if the anaheim jail gets a little busier on the nights when the dodgers, yankees, red sox, white sox come to town, so be it. Why would the stadiums security be more tolerable of this when these teams come around? Are they scared or just lazy or both?

 And no, I could care less why they would do away with the thundersticks. I fuckin hated those things anyway.

 I commented on this diary because I feel that shit should'nt be tolerated at ANGEL stadium. Carl Johnson decided to spew some  venom and it pissed me off. I don't care what he or anyone else has had happen to them at any other ballpark. I'm talking about our stadium. I tell people at work all the time that angels stadium is a much better place to take your kids than dodger stadium, because I've seen some harsh shit go down there.  And when I hear that our own fans are acting just as bad a dodger fans, Its embarassing and it bums me out. I personally have never had a problem there and I've been going the freeway series at chavez ravine for YEARS. Maybe because I'm there with some gnarly looking cholo dodger fans. But hey, a rivalry is a rivalry, and obviously our little freeway series has gotten pretty serious. So for that matter I fully understand that there just are certain games you should take you kids to.

 Carl, I apologize for a being a little childish there with my comments at the end, but I still don't think your way of thinking is very good. Hate only breeds more hate, and I can't stand to see anything but a good time being had at my home stadium.

Peace.

by AlohaHalofan on May 21, 2007 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow
That was one of the most ignorant things I have ever read.

by SwimRun on May 19, 2007 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

the olden days
I recall Dodger/Angel games pre-2002 quite clearly and the Dodger fans outnumbered the Angel fans and were emboldend to F-Bomb and everything else.

While I agree that the thug-life can get a bit gruesome to endure when you just want to see a ballgame, bringing a kid to a Didger/Angel game is asking for it. Frankly, it at least indicates that there is "A RIVALRY" felt here -something the East Coast media insists only occurs in the Bronx-Fenwy corridor.

I personally stopped going to Dodger Angel games at Angel stadium because it just was not fun for all the reasons you described, but I there are dozens of Devil Ray, Twins, Mariners games to compensate for this show of beer-inspired revelry.

by Rev Halofan on May 19, 2007 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

word
It's not often that I agree with you, Rev, but you hit the nail on the head with this one. I don't approve of crappy behavior, but I'm not stupid enough to think it doesn't exist.
East coast bias

by Carl Johnson on May 19, 2007 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

dang
what i was trying to say and i guess i did not say very well is that we as angels fans always whined about fans of this or that team acting this way or that way and now while most of us do not act this way, we have more than enough fans who do.

also if you can't bring your kid or family to a baseball game?  something is really wrong with the sport, or society i don't know.

and rev, normally i completely agree with you but come on you don't need to drop to petty insults about the crystal cathedral, trust me it would be more likely that i would get thrown out of there than go there on my own accord.

retire number fifteen.

by rowast on May 19, 2007 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

no insult meant
just an analogy - I shoulda said "library" ... and i am with you about the local yokels making trouble... no doubt the beer and lack of brains brings out the worst int he post-02 bandwagoneers ...

...but there are SO many baseball games in a season that it seems understandable a few will be more intense or heated than others and that should lead to a less family-friendly atmosphere.

If it were every game, then we have a problem, if it was a third of the season's games, that is unaceptable, but two games against the dodgers and maybe two in August agianst the A's if things are knotted up... I just don't think the situation is as alarmist and unreversible, no matter whose fans are the ones leading the smacktalk ...

... and I got your back when the lighting strikes at us as we near the doors of Rober Shuler's architectural Golden Goose...

by Rev Halofan on May 19, 2007 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to sit where you were....
Where i was sitting the Dodger fans were louder than us ME....Cuz all the other Angels fans were just sitting there taking all the crap from the fags in blue. But that all changed after the 3run innning.

Oh and a funny story, I was walking out of the stadium by the LF pavilion and there was some drunk ass dodger fan laying in the plants(it was like a little slope) and  every time he would try to get up he would fall down and roll more and more down the slope. It was funny we kept yelling "get up Bambie" and everyone was laughing at him. TRUE STORY

Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by acuda27 on May 19, 2007 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

either
he got drunk way too early in the day or he somehow can afford to get drunk at the ballpark either way its sad for him and comedy gold for you.
retire number fifteen.

by rowast on May 19, 2007 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

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