American League MVP?

by WeaverMania on Aug 13, 2007 9:34 PM PDT

I'm currently debating a guy on Football's Future about who the American League MVP would be. He only listed Magglio Ordonez and Alex Rodriguez in the poll, showing he is an idiot. He then stats that it's Magglio Ordonez's award to win. We've been arguing for two pages, so far. The guy (on Page 1) will use some retarded variables to say that Ordonez is the guy because he simply just believes he is. He thinks that batting average and Runs Created Per Game (which is a great stat) is the be-all and end-all of all debates when talking about who is the Most Valuable Player. He continues (on Page 2) by saying that Gary Sheffield doesn't make a difference on the Tigers despite being tied for fifth in the American League in Runs Created Per Game. I have continued to smash him in the debate by posting things that are totally hard to refute. I even added in Ichiro Suzuki into the debate, because he deserves to be in there.

So, I was wondering who you guys would vote for if the MVP voting were to take place today. I think it'd be hard to go against Alex Rodriguez personally. I hate the Yankees but I think he's the only reason that they even stayed as close as they were to the Red Sox. He was their only offense early on. I have Vladimir Guerrero in second because his stats are a little lacking but his true value to the team is unmatched in the American League. I have Ichiro Suzuki third because of how much of an impact he has on that team and then you add in his stats. I have Magglio Ordonez fourth behind the other three, but slightly behind Ichiro. So, who gets your vote?

Poll

Who is your 2007 American League Most Valuable Player?

Magglio Ordonez [Detroit Tigers]

7 votes

Alex Rodriguez [New York Yankees]

34 votes

Ichiro Suzuki [Seattle Mariners]

12 votes

Vladimir Guerrero [Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim]

19 votes

72 votes | Poll has closed

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A-Rod

Remember, it is not who deserves it, it is how the idiot sportswriters vote.

by Rev Halofan on Aug 13, 2007 9:48 PM PDT reply actions

And it's not A-Rod to you?

The man is quite literally a beast.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Aug 13, 2007 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions

gotta agree...

Sure, the sportwriters vote, and therefore have that lovely East Coast Yankee bias, but A-rod has been tearing it up all year, and if the Yanks make the playoffs, how can you NOT vote for him?

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by sipperphoto on Aug 13, 2007 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions

NY MVP

I believe this has been studied and it was found that NY players have no edge in MVP voting (and may be at a slight disadvantage for some reason).

Remember each league city has the same number of voting shares.

Two things correlate enormously with MVP awards, players on playoff teams and RBI totals.

by elricsi on Aug 14, 2007 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions

If Vlad wins this poll.....

We will have to rename this site "West Coast Bias"...

by bc56274 on Aug 13, 2007 10:00 PM PDT reply actions

Second.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Aug 13, 2007 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Good Work

Those are actually the only 4 real candidates at the moment.

Vlad has 17 win shares above bench, the other 3 have 16. No one else has more than 13.

by elricsi on Aug 13, 2007 10:10 PM PDT reply actions

Hate to say it

But A-Rod and Mags are the two frontrunners.

Truthfully, this year, it doesn't seem to me that Vlad has been quite as clutch as other years. He's no longer the sole reason we're winning ballgames, he's a part of a team that wins a lot of ballgames.

We've had a ton of help this year from unlikely sources: Figgy after a tough start, Kotch (who we didn't know what to expect), Izzy recently, even GMJ has had his share of big hits. There is also Willits who hasn't driven in the runs, but has been a huge tablesetter.

It seems from week to week it's a different guy stepping up to help us win. And that is great! It allows us to be a much more consistently winning ballclub, less prone to slides from one or two streaky hitters.

Don't get me wrong, Vlad is a machine and I wouldn't trade him for anything, I'm just saying he's getting a lot of great help this year.

Willits for ROY

by 101halo on Aug 13, 2007 10:10 PM PDT reply actions

Where's the love for Shea?

Mags is it. He may not be it come October, but as far as August? Yeah. Mags.

by Stirrups on Aug 13, 2007 10:23 PM PDT reply actions

Ok well

The MVP every year is considered the best player on the best team.

If the season ended now, with Detroit in a tail spin and the Yankees out of the playoffs, Vlad would win. Unless they just handed it to every player on the Red Sox.

by Pwn on Aug 14, 2007 12:44 AM PDT reply actions

Best Player on Best Team is false

YEAR - - - PLAYER - - TEAM RANK IN AL
2006: Justin Morneau (2nd)
2005: Alex Rodriguez (t-2nd)
2004: Vladimir Guerrero (t-3rd)
2003: Alex Rodriguez (t-10th)
2002: Miguel Tejada (t-1st)
2001: Ichiro Suzuki (1st)
2000: Jason Giambi (2nd)
1999: Ivan Rodriguez (3rd)
1998: Juan Gonzalez (t-4th)
1997: Ken Griffey Jr. (3rd)

As you can see, only twice in the past decade has the MVP come from a team finishing the season tied for or owning the best outright record in the American League.

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill

by WeaverMania on Aug 14, 2007 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions