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Steve Phillips: Bonds to Angels or A's

Phillips, the ESPN analyst and former Mets general manager, suggested two possible fits for Bonds in 2008: the Angels and A's. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/08/13/SPCVRGV3E.DTL

It seems like certain A's players don't want him. Would you like him on the Angels? I wouldn't mind him, but I wouldn't like him. I just wonder what would happen when we have to put in Anderson or Guerrero as the designated hitter during some games. You can't have two designated hitters, that I know of. And what happens to Juan Rivera for that matter? Do we just trade him plus other players for a huge bat in the offseason to go with Guerrero and Bonds? Too many things would be screwed up, I think. We could trade Izturis, Santana, and Rivera to a team that needs young players that will help their team build for now and the future while getting back a player of a good talent level, someone like Miguel Cabrera perhaps. That's just one thought. Who knows, though.

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MCab
wouldn't move unless you gave them Wood, Adenheart, Weaver, SRod, Kotchman, Figgins and Im not joking

by Pwn on Aug 14, 2007 12:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Probably but that's why I can dream the impossible
dream!
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill

by WeaverMania on Aug 14, 2007 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rivera
is a free agent after this season.

Bonds DHing for 100 games and Vlad for 62 equals one thing, and it goes on your finger.

by Rev Halofan on Aug 14, 2007 12:28 AM PDT reply actions  

He's Arbitration Eligible after this year
So we might get him back.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill

by WeaverMania on Aug 14, 2007 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bonds
...Well he still is a stud...  leading the majors in OBP and OPS...  But the Angels do seem to work better in a quiet clubhouse...

by the OC angels on Aug 14, 2007 1:30 AM PDT reply actions  

He's also tied for the ML lead in RC/G and . . .
. . . leads the NL in that category.

He's also 10th in the ML in VORP while being 6th in the NL in VORP.

He leads the NL in Adjusted Equivalent Average, is 11th in Adjusted Equivalent Runs, and he's 3rd in Adjusted Runs Above Position. He's also the top LF according to those variables. Not just in the National League, but in the Majors.

He'd be a welcome offensive addition to the Angels, no doubt about that.

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill

by WeaverMania on Aug 14, 2007 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Circus
Bonds would turn Anahiem into a circus just like Beckham and the LA Galaxy. We don't need it. Isn't Bonds still in some legal jepordy, under some indictments? The Angels don't need his baggage it's not their style.

by 44FAN on Aug 14, 2007 2:28 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd go for it
Now that he's broken the record. I don't think the media will care nearly as much (unless he gets indicted or something).  He has to play by Scioscia's rules.

Finally, it gives Rev a chance to catch his last and final record HR and become a gazillionaire and retire to devote full time to Halodom.

Feels like the 1970's all over again. <sigh>

by Moondoggy on Aug 14, 2007 3:19 AM PDT reply actions  

do not want...
Cancer in the clubhouse.  Sosh will not put up with his attitude.

Granted, he'd hit a ton of bombs.  I just don't think the team would stay cohesive as they are with someone like him in there.

Plus, how old is he?  43-44... too old for me.

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by sipperphoto on Aug 14, 2007 6:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Hypothetical 2008 lineup
3B Figgins
SS OC
DH Bonds
RF Vlad
1B Kotch
LF Juan
CF GMJ
2B Howie
C Naps

The order is open to debate, but it does look interesting.  That being said Bonds has WAY too much baggage, as has been discussed previously.  The Angels success in 2008 will be far more dependant on the development of their younger players.

Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!

by Fan Since 1981 on Aug 14, 2007 8:05 AM PDT reply actions  

This team is too good
and has chemistry going right now that is too good to be interrupted by one player, no matter who the fuck it is.  I refuse to believe having Bonds on the team next year would cost them a single game due to his personality.  It just wouldn't happen.
http://kotchatthebat.livejournal.com/

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 14, 2007 8:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Bond on the Angels is like getting services from a
crack whore. How desperate are we to win?
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by melvintoast on Aug 14, 2007 8:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Well,
a crack whore who just a couple of years ago looked like Jessica Biel.

by Stirrups on Aug 14, 2007 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Steve Phillips
The Mets GM who traded for Mo Vaughn.  Yes, he knows all about good moves.
Hoping Ervin Santana turns it around in Salt Lake. Go, Ervin!

by scareduck on Aug 14, 2007 9:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Steve Phillips
is bound by ESPN to say outrageous things so that Kruk has someone to argue with.
I'm giving Figgins a big F U. Seattle isn't winning 90. I am not worried.

by hauldog on Aug 14, 2007 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Moreno
Was outraged by the GMJ drug rumors, does anyone really think he would sign a KNOWN drug user?
I'm giving Figgins a big F U. Seattle isn't winning 90. I am not worried.

by hauldog on Aug 14, 2007 9:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Aging former All-Star
Just like the old days, eh?

Granted Bonds is head and shoulders above your Vaughns, but it's not happening.

The EastcoastSPN has been "forecasting" the Angels to sign Bonds since at LEAST March 2006, if not earlier. They're lost in their conviction that we'll never be worth anything until and unless we get a guy of Bonds' caliber, and not even then.

Bastards.

by Clutch on Aug 14, 2007 9:36 AM PDT reply actions  

i don't care about numbers
i appreciate the reputation the angels have for being friendly, talented, and (hopefully) clean athletes.  barry bonds only presents the POSSIBILITY of fulfilling one of these categories.

by Of Angels and Angles on Aug 14, 2007 9:39 AM PDT reply actions  

No Way
The Angels are not going back to signing over the hill sluggers plus as others have said there is the clubhouse issue. Personally, I want young homegrown players and a few free agent signees in their prime. Let Oakland continue to sign the overhill guys (Thomas worked for them, Piazza did not).

by tanana40 on Aug 14, 2007 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Bonds needs to be signed
by the Giants.  No one else wants him; the Bay Area blows; and his Sf fans are the only in the world who would die defending his name.

Bonds would contribute to the Angels, but we don't need him.  You know how they say "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em."  Well... we already beat 'em.

by BruinHalo on Aug 14, 2007 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Bonds wants to play one more year for a ring
He mentioned he likes the Angels.  I think he'd play out of his mind to win in his final year.  He has a home in So Cal. The Angels would gain media coverage. Like it not, Bonds is part of Baseball History, the team he plays on will be too.  If he is CONVICTED his contract is void.

Contract:

signed deal for 2007 season worth $15.8M on 1/30/07- + he can earn $4.2M in performance bonuses: $500K for 250 plate appearances, $1M each for 300, 375 and 450 plate appearances, and $700K for 525 plate appearance- + $5.8M of his salary will be deferred until 2008 w/out interest and all earned bonuses are deferred to 2009 with interest- + as part of the deal, no part of Bonds' personal staff (i.e. trainers Harvey Shields and Greg Oliver) is under Giants' payroll meaning they are banned from entering MLB-designated restricted areas- + he receives a complete NO-TRADE clause as a 10-and-5 player- + as per terms of the Uniform Player Contract, his remaining salary becomes non-guaranteed (w/ the option of voiding the deal) if he fails to maintain good citizenship (i.e. he is charged with a crime/convicted/indicted/arrested)*- + as part of the deal, Bonds waives the right to ask the players' association to file a grievance if he is indicted and the contract is terminated, though the union does retain the right to file a grievance independently- + he receives a luxury suite at AT&T Park for five games and gets five free lower box seats for all road games- + he receives a hotel suite on road trips- + he has the right to occupy as many lockers as he needs- + the contract was not immediately approved by MLB because it contained a personal-appearance provision that had to be eliminated- + he will conduct dugout press briefings the first say of each road series- + 2006 salary: $18M (+ $5M of each year's salary from 2002 thru 2006 was deferred until 2007 thru 2011 at 3.5% interest), 2005: $20M, 2004: $16M (+ $4M of signing bonus), 2003: $13M (+ $3.5M of signing bonus), 2002: $13M (+ $2.5M of signing bonus)- + bonuses he has received: $50K for 2004 Silver Slugger, $500K for 2004 NL MVP

*Exact language of that portion of the deal as acquired by the Associated Press: "Player acknowledges and agrees that an indictment for any criminal act under [a list of criminal acts including tax evasion and perjury] ... is proper grounds for termination of this contract..Player also acknowledges and agrees that he will not grieve, appeal or otherwise challenge any club action to terminate this contract as a result of player's indictment for any criminal acts [specified] ... nor will he cause or authorize any third party, such as the Major League Baseball Players Association, to grieve, appeal or otherwise challenge any club action to terminate this contract as a result of players' indictment for any [specified] criminal acts." His agent this additional standard language in the contract would be unenforceable if the matter were litigated because baseball's collective bargaining agreement which has different language would take precedence. Because of that, his agent said the inclusion of the added provision is meaningless.
Agent: Jeff Borris/None

http://www.mlb4u.com/profile.php?id=502

by 1000 Oaks angels fan on Aug 14, 2007 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

He can take up as many lockers
as he wants.  Hahaha.  That's a great provision.  I wonder who tossed that one in at the last minute.

"All right, we've got everything we want...performance bonuses, luxury suites, hotel suites on road trips...but we're not going ANYWHERE until Barry gets more lockers!"

http://kotchatthebat.livejournal.com/

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 15, 2007 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

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