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The End of Seattle's Season

Panther of the Game: Dustin Moseley

Maybe it was the bad karma of giving a devastated Ervin Santana a mocking standing Ovation.

Maybe it was the bad karma for letting Courtney Love ruin Kurt Cobain.

Maybe it was the bad karma for letting Starbucks ruin American entrepeneurship.

Maybe it was the bad karma for nurturing Bill Gates, Paul Allen and their MS-DOS.

Maybe it was the bad karma for turning a poor misunderstood Sasquatch into a hick tourist attraction renamed Bigfoot.

Maybe it was the bad karma for not making ritual human sacrifices regularly to Mt. Saint Helens.

Whatever the hell it was, Seattle, it squeezed the oxygen out of another moment where you thought for once you were going to get what you wanted.

Not this time, yet again.

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I feel bad for my family, good for Angels
My family who went to the game in Seattle acknowledged that the fans were nowhere near as involved in the game as they should have been.  

Also, they believed there were a record number of calls blown.  I explained to them that there were a few blown calls, but the vast majority were too close to call, and went the Angel's way because of the idiocy of Jeff Weaver's early body language, despite owning a 5-0 lead.  

Really for them, it's unforgivable for Jeff to let the Angel's back in that game the way he did.

Angels won this, but only after the M's refused to put it away for good.

Willits for ROY

by 101halo on Aug 28, 2007 11:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope the M's fans
have nightmares of little red angels chewing off their heads.

by 44FAN on Aug 28, 2007 11:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Moseley: Panther indeed
He stopped the insanity.  BooDoo will probably only pitch mop-up from now on.  Amazing performance by the entire lineup.
Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!

by Fan Since 1981 on Aug 28, 2007 11:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Like soviet russia, they're goin down.
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by melvintoast on Aug 28, 2007 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

give em all panthers
except ErvIn he gets a plane ticket Tempe

by UCIHalo on Aug 28, 2007 11:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Tempe? You mean SLC?
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by melvintoast on Aug 28, 2007 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

no i meant Tempe
slc season is almost over and Santana needs some extended-extended spring training

by UCIHalo on Aug 28, 2007 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every last one of those guys pulled themselves up
and did what they had to do to win after Santana's failure. They are one hell of a team. The come from behind wins are always the best to watch because the Angels do it so well.

by 44FAN on Aug 28, 2007 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hyperbole
Last Saturday Rev was invoking 1995
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by melvintoast on Aug 28, 2007 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

*last thursday*
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by melvintoast on Aug 28, 2007 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome game tonight.
Moseley really stepped it up.  Definite panther there.

I just wonder about the psyche of Santana.  Is his 2007 finished?

by bc56274 on Aug 28, 2007 11:24 PM PDT reply actions  

What happened to Santana?
Is this the same guy who stepped in for an injured Colon in the final game of the 2005 ALDS against the Yankees and beat them?  He looks like a completely different pitcher; his confidence is gone.  His fastballs are down the middle, and his slider has lost its bite.

His 2007 is finished as far as being in the starting rotation.

Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!

by Fan Since 1981 on Aug 28, 2007 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I blame mickey hatcher
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by melvintoast on Aug 28, 2007 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

time for an intervention
we should force him to watch highlights from that game until he regains his confidence.  or.....  maybe he could quit pitching and work on becoming a full time position player.  he can be a Dominican rick ankel

by UCIHalo on Aug 28, 2007 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah...
The way he's been pitching recently, that doesn't sound half bad. He did have a pretty big RBI double in his first road win of the year in St. Louis...

by HawaiiHaloFan35 on Aug 29, 2007 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

"The End of Seattle's Season"??????????
Get rid of that headline!!!
It's only August!  And the Angels still have to face Felix.  It was a nice comeback win, but the Angels still have 30+ games to play.

Everybody say it:
"One game at a time.  One game at a time."

Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!

by Fan Since 1981 on Aug 28, 2007 11:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed
First post on HH of any substance besides OPD - long time reader

I most definitely agree with this. While I think tonight's victory has gone a long way towards putting the Mariners back in their place, there is still a lot of baseball left.

by BrickTamland on Aug 29, 2007 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tough call for panther
Moseley was absolutely PHENOMENAL this game, and really allowed us the time to get back into it.  

However...

Vlad was Vlad, 4 for 5, with 3 RBI.  Then again, GMJ and Pantherales really got it started...

so...

Moseley it is, from an individual contribution standpoint.

Willits for ROY

by 101halo on Aug 28, 2007 11:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Without Moseley
all the other stats would've been moot.

Time to give Mozz Boodoo's spot in the rotation.

You shut your mouth
How can you say
I go about things the wrong way ?
I am Human and I need to be loved
Just like everybody else does

by cupie on Aug 28, 2007 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed
And why I eventually settled on Moseley as Panther.  He didn't singlehandedly WIN the game for us, but he sure as hell allowed us to come back and win the game.
Willits for ROY

by 101halo on Aug 28, 2007 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

fangraphs
I love seeing the win expectancy charts, especially when they go the Angels way, and especially if they look like Splash Mountain:

http://www.fangraphs.com/livewins.aspx?gameid=270828112

Is it just me, or has there been a lot of games lately where the whole team has step up as the panther?

by RubixsQube on Aug 28, 2007 11:30 PM PDT reply actions  

What a great win tonight!
Gritty. Gutty. We showed lots of stones tonight. It seemed like Mosely was calm personfied coming into the ugly situation Santana left him with. He was awesome tonight. He did exactly what he needed to do, and the bats got us right back in it.

A huge win. It's not over or anything like that, far from it, but it's probably the biggest win of the year to this point.

A great night.

by goodvibe61 on Aug 28, 2007 11:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Hell yes baby!
4 games ahead of the Mariners. Lets sweep the hell out of them tomorrow!!!! And Jeff Weaver, go screw a moose you pansy ass bitch. Tonight was so glorious, it made up for your sucky effort last season here in Anaheim. I hope you and your team have fun traveling to Cleveland, Toronto, New York, and Detroit with only one day of rest. We'll have a 8 game lead by the name you come back to that miserable town that has to put up with other pieces of shit such as Ty Willingham, the Sonics, and one crappy NFC title trophy. Your city makes Cleveland look like freakin New York! And how many pennants did you win when you had Randy, Griffey, ARod, and Ichiro? ZERO, ZIP, NADA!!!

Where's Denny Green? Somebody needs to crown our asses!! I'm fired up! The Angels never die!

by Salmonella on Aug 28, 2007 11:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Hate to be a sore winner, but...
This is too funny not to post from the LL game thread (in response to White being brought in to face Vlad with the bases loaded... which, well, I can't blame them for being upset over):

"When in trouble
go to the guy with the orange Santa beard.

by Paytheline on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:57:13 AM EDT"

Willits for ROY

by 101halo on Aug 28, 2007 11:37 PM PDT reply actions  

They thought Vlad would have trouble
batting because he would be laughing too hard.

by 44FAN on Aug 28, 2007 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lookout Landing
covers the Angels better than ESPN, that is for sure.

by Rev Halofan on Aug 28, 2007 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I do feel for them
Their managing was VERY poor tonight.

I actually thought, upon seeing Sean White in, that the intention was to pitch Vlad high and tight, and hit him in the hands if at all possible.  White had done it before, and it wouldn't have hurt the M's bullpen much to do so if a suspension were the result.

That said, I hope that's not the case, as Scoscia has made it clear we would not do the same.

Regardless, I hope Seattle takes the wild card, simply to prove the dominance of the AL Western division for years to come.  The Central and West will be strong for years, and it will take a lot of $$$ to keep Boston and the Skanks from being out of it for a few years.

Willits for ROY

by 101halo on Aug 28, 2007 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt White
was the M's pitcher.  They had a Sean of a different color (Green) earlier.

by jjackflash on Aug 29, 2007 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rick White
I'm giving Figgins a big F U. Seattle isn't winning 90. I am not worried.

by hauldog on Aug 29, 2007 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Santana!!!!!!
I'm tired of Santana.  Leave him in Utah.  I never want to see him in an Angels uniform.  .1 IP and 5 ER?!?!?! The man is a major league pitcher on a great team who gets paid to throw a ball.  The man is a walking tampon.  I like him as a player but I'm tired of him ruining games.  If he is soo happy in Utah then leave him there for the rest of his career.  Its not like he is in NYC and the guy is under huge pressure, Santana needs to quit being a baby.

by docescobar07 on Aug 28, 2007 11:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Tampons are more useful...
at least they can stop the flow...
Quit yer whinin' and START CHEERING!

by Downing Rules on Aug 29, 2007 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Santana must have a mormon girlfriend in Salt Lake
that's why he is so eager to get back there. (Heard on that other site.)

by 44FAN on Aug 29, 2007 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

P.S. An Idea...
Start Ervin next game.  Regardless of outcome, take him out after the first out.

When teams are ready for Moseley, they seem prepared.  However, the Mariners didn't see Moseley coming and had no clue what they were doing against him.

Let's use the trick one more time to our advantage haha.

Willits for ROY

by 101halo on Aug 28, 2007 11:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Black magic panther idea!
Let's hope the other teams aren't reading.
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by melvintoast on Aug 29, 2007 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

OH!
Another point to be gained from this win.  I've said it in the past week, and I'm surprised to be saying it, but...

...Acuda is right...

As soon as Kotch is back, Kendry is the DH.  Period, until he shows he doesn't deserve it anymore.  On days GA needs the DH, Willits takes LF.  On days Vlad needs DH, Kendry takes RF.  Apart from that, Kendry should be in the lineup until he stops hitting at the rediculous pace he it currently.

Willits for ROY

by 101halo on Aug 29, 2007 12:12 AM PDT reply actions  

how right is he?
...Acuda is right...

So you think Sean Rodriguez is ready for the big show, too?  ;)

Quit yer whinin' and START CHEERING!

by Downing Rules on Aug 29, 2007 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let me rephrase:
"Acuda is right about Kendry Morales being ready for the show, while at the same time entirely overexaggerating the current playing level of nearly the entire Angel farm system."

Better?

Willits for ROY

by 101halo on Aug 29, 2007 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

All wood needs is a chance... Just give another
chance to strike out and you'll see how he'll rake like Roger Maris.

I'm not a farm hand homer but Kowbell is the real deal. I think we saw some of that last year. Consistency, like it is for any talented rookie, is the main obstacle.

I don't think we'll see wood in as a regular until at least 2009

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by melvintoast on Aug 29, 2007 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree
though I still have my fingers crossed that Rivera makes his way back into our lineup.

by DChalofan on Aug 29, 2007 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Go Angels!
I just love what Lookout Landing has to say about the Angels.

"Since June 24th - over a span of 50 games - Reggie Willits has posted a strapping .236/.340/.267 line at the plate, with a strikeout rate twice what it was before. By pointing this out, of course, I've all but assured that he's going to kick our asses somehow despite a complete and utter inability to hit the ball more than 250 feet. His featured profile picture on Angels.com is a shot of him bunting. This guy couldn't possibly be a bigger weenie."

That's ok Reggie. We appreciate your dedication to the small ball.

I sometimes wonder what the guy could do if Scioscia moved him near the middle of the lineup.

by atung on Aug 29, 2007 12:19 AM PDT reply actions  

As much as I love Reggie...
I wonder if he might as his wife to pinch hit for him, if ever confronted with batting from the middle of the lineup.

After all, I'm sure she's worked the cages plenty this year.  

Willits for ROY

by 101halo on Aug 29, 2007 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

She's taken a few in the helmet.
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by melvintoast on Aug 29, 2007 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Quite possibly
my favorite wrap-up post of the year, Rev.  

Bad karma all the way!  

With win-win-win, we all win!

by lightupthehalo on Aug 29, 2007 12:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Every game I get more impressed
with Jeff Mathis.  The guy is looking like a stud.  He always seems to do something to help the team, if it's a ball in the dirt he blocks, get a key hit, whatever.  He is contributing more than what shows up in the box score and I am impressed.  When Naps gets back, we are going to have one hell of a catching duo.  Gonna be tough for Sosh to fill out the lineup card and try to keep everyone happy, because Mathis has earned his spot.  Great move to trade Molina.

by LosAngel on Aug 29, 2007 1:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Agreed re: Mathis
For a guy hitting .200,  Mathis sure is impressing. There haven't been a lot of hits, but those he's had have been big. Plus, defensively he's been a standout.

He's only gonna get better--I think we'll still see Math 2-3 times a week when Naps returns (I don't see Sciosc stunting Mathis' development with once-a-week duty).

I bleed Angel red

by squarefootnatlpark on Aug 29, 2007 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have to say
I feel a bit sorry for the Aquafans. It must be gutting, imagine how bad they will feel if we broom them tonight.

I remember how bad that can feel. Remember 1989, when we were a game behind the Bash (Roid) Brothers and they came to Anaheim and kicked our asses? That really sucked.

Better them than us, though!

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Aug 29, 2007 6:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Depth
we are truly seeing it on display now and it's awesome.  Jeff freakin' Mathis?  this guy was left for dead and Stoneman stuck with him. then we traded JMo away and the kid has been solid (that gun down of ichiro may have taken his confidence up even more).  Kowbell?  what more needs to be said? he's in the show and proving his worth.  Maicer?  depth, depth, depth....such a luxury.

by SCHalo on Aug 29, 2007 8:46 AM PDT reply actions  

LET'S GO FOR THE JUGULAR TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like the queen from Alice in wonderland would say, "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Final score: Angels 4 Giants 1 Angels 2002 World Series Champions!!!

by Halofanatic on Aug 29, 2007 10:44 AM PDT reply actions  

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