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Angels have Thursday off - on Friday night, they open a three game series with Minnesota to conclude this homestand.

Topic of the Day...
If the Angel Stadium rat crisis allowed Arte Moreno to terminate the stadium concession contract with Aramark and Arte did so, what would you SERIOUSLY suggest to him to better the stadium dining/refreshment experience to ensure us all a post-Aramark paradise.

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Add a Rubio's
and get a southern california niche food in there somewhere.  San Fran has its garlic fries, Chicago has its sausages, Seattle has its Sushi and fish stuff...we need our's.  Get a bigger, better outdoor BBQ behind the rocks going.  Drop the generic fanfare foods, get some Tex-Mex going, work the Baja California angle.

All of the above sound great.  Maybe even a healthy restaurant (salads and the such), and a teriyaki type place.

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by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 9, 2007 12:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Rubio's ? ? ?
Wahoo's.   Get it right bro.   Wahoo's has better food (which is subjective) but what is not subjective is the fact that Wahoo's is OC based, Rubios is out of SD and should stick to PetCo .
Somewhere in Arizona Smokin' TumbleWeeds

by Rex DaKine Budler on Aug 10, 2007 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I live in neither OC or SD
but prefer Rubio's nonetheless.  It doesn't matter that much to me anyway.  Just a restaurant of that sort would be fine.
http://kotchatthebat.livejournal.com/

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 11, 2007 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

In-N-Out
And if they could devote the requisite space, a full-fledged In-N-Out would be fantastic.

by tcberry on Aug 9, 2007 2:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now THAT is Panther.
That's good food and an iconic So-Cal burger joint to boot. How can that go wrong?

(See: Ruby's, i.e. serve only shakes and fries without the burgers)

Light Up That Halo! ...and tell Clutch to chill!

by cardinalwraith on Aug 9, 2007 3:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great Idea
Although Carl's Jr might have something to say about that.  Screw 'em.  Bring on the In-N-Out.

by autrys cowboys on Aug 9, 2007 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Screw Carls!
Best idea yet... i'd be down with a Fatburger as well!
MS-Society HERE to read more about it, and donate some money!

by sipperphoto on Aug 9, 2007 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Baja Style
I think this is a little more realistic due to the hispanic influence.  Baja Fresh???  Wahoo's???

by autrys cowboys on Aug 9, 2007 8:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Wahoos
as Rex would say "that's a no doubter"

it totally represents Southern California.  The next step would be to cover the whole stadim with stickers!!!

by Hutch (someone took my name) on Aug 9, 2007 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wahoo's or Sharky's!
Call it Wahoo's Landing or something next to the Budweiser Patio, or replace the Panda Expess with them.

Wahoo's and Sharky's are much better than Rubio's and Baja Fresh IMO.  A

As for BBQ, absolutely!  A place where you could get ribs, chicken, and/or smoked/sliced tri-tip.  They have the space to put it in over where you used to be able to time your home to first base speed.  Does it still have Erstad's time up there?

There are too many hot dog/sausage options on the 3B terrace side.  Granted there isa Ruby's there, but I miss the Italian Beef Sandwiches from there.
I agree that some sort of "healthy" option would be nice

Back in my younger days (mid to late 80's), I remember there used to be carving station that had the best Roast Beef /BBQ Beef / Corned Beef Sandwiches just to the right (if you were walking towards the field) of the tunnel that would take you to Aisles 25, 27, and 29 (now known as Sections 108 & 109.  Anyone remember what that was called?

It is way overdue Arte. #5 needs to be retired by the Angels.

by BrianDowningFan on Aug 9, 2007 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah,
used to work at Sharky's. Good Stuff.
Bad Shields makes me unhappy...

by CaLiKrAzY on Aug 9, 2007 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely Sharky's
As long as they provide the Power Plate.  It's great for those of us who are trying to lose weight!

(Though I admit a hot dog and a bag of peanuts are my indulgence when I manage to get down to the Big A).

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Aug 9, 2007 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

just give me a Ruby's Shake
and a Baltmore victory today: Daniel Cabrera against Horacio Ramirez, 4:05 pm.

everyone enjoy the off day.

by rbrianc on Aug 9, 2007 9:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Compared to what we get in the the UK...
...I'd take the rats and be happy.

At most of our stadia over here, you get one or all of the following:

Pies - Beef and Onion, Steak and kidney or Curry flavoured microwaved in a plastic bag
Fish and chips (with mushy peas if you're lucky, or perhaps if you're not)
Bovril (a hot meat based drink - kind of like tea only made with cows instead of tea leaves - which tastes worse than it sounds)

You can't consume alcohol inside the stands in Britain, because we're incapable of drinking and watching sports without someone demanding a fight over whether or not the goal-keeper for the home-team is intimate with his dog/cat/mother and the police stepping in with riot gear.

From what I remember of my formative teenage years in Orange County, I'd go with the two common themes listed above, as that was pretty much my diet for 7 years -

Baja/Tex-mex (you cannot get good Mexican food anywhere in this country) - I'd vote for at least one 'Margharita night' a year as well
BBQ - but make it a decent BBQ pit not some commercialised excuse for BBQ.

(and that In-n-Out idea is a cracker)

by The Limey on Aug 9, 2007 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

You've been away too long.
Tex-Mex is not "good Mexican food". Cheap, watered down swill. Over-compensates by trying to be spicy hot. The Britney Spears of Mexican food.

by Stirrups on Aug 9, 2007 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nonsense...
...although I'll concede that it may not be possible to get good Tex-Mex outside of Tex.  

As for British stadium food..."Bovril?"  Honestly?  The mind reels, the gorge rises.

by Sean @ Halos Heaven on Aug 9, 2007 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Dallas is any indication...
...hang it up. But that's all the Texas I know.

by Stirrups on Aug 9, 2007 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's a British grocer in Orange...
..or there was a few years back, selling all sorts of special treats from Blighty.  I'm sure they can hook you up if you're interested...

by The Limey on Aug 9, 2007 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's a British grocer
who manages to eke out an existance on Valley View right next to the 22. I don't remember the name of the place, though.
Hoping Ervin Santana turns it around in Salt Lake. Go, Ervin!

by scareduck on Aug 9, 2007 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough...
..lets just stick with "good mexican food" and you guys be the judge of what's best locally.

And yes, I have been away to long... maybe next year.  I have a mate's wedding in Australia in Otober '08, if I fly the long way round, it could be the perfect time to stop by.

by The Limey on Aug 9, 2007 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

The guy who caught #756
was flying through California on his way to visit friends in Australia.

Maybe you'll catch #400 from Vladdy or something?

http://kotchatthebat.livejournal.com/

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 9, 2007 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chance would be a fine thing...
..but I live in hope.

Nice blog by the way.  Will stop by from time to time.

by The Limey on Aug 9, 2007 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, we do have
the In-N-Out, "Who's In, Who's Out" segment during a pitching change.

Also, what's up with the Hooter's at the stadium?  Whenever I walk by it is empty. Does anyone even go there?

It is way overdue Arte. #5 needs to be retired by the Angels.

by BrianDowningFan on Aug 9, 2007 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

It was a sushi bar back in the NFL days...
maybe even for the Angels, too; but I rarely go by the 1st base side on the lowest level, so I have no idea.

That location is a black hole and everything that goes there is destined to fail, even a Hooters.  Not sure why...

So, my answer is NO, nobody goes there! ;)

Quit yer whinin' and START CHEERING!

by Downing Rules on Aug 9, 2007 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hooters
I hate to admit it, but when I have the time, that's my preferred Angels stadium vendor.  The chicken strips & fries deal really ain't bad, and it's under $10 (or it was last year, anyway).  The big problem is that, at least before the game, the line is kinda long and I get impatient, particularly because I rarely get to the stadium much before gametime.

by jjackflash on Aug 9, 2007 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why Hooters is empty
No Hooters girls!
Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Aug 9, 2007 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

hooters girls
never been by there, but i hope to god they don't have Aramark employees dress in hooters shorts

by Neo8234 on Aug 9, 2007 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is
Szabo still in the business?  I know that's what they had back in the day, when you could get a Coke at the stadium and not that watered-down aspertine-tinged, Pepsi.
 
It is way overdue Arte. #5 needs to be retired by the Angels.

by BrianDowningFan on Aug 9, 2007 9:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Szabo rocked!
I remember them, too!  Awesome!
Quit yer whinin' and START CHEERING!

by Downing Rules on Aug 9, 2007 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

This guy obviously...
was a bigger Szabo fan than I was... and that's pretty big!
Quit yer whinin' and START CHEERING!

by Downing Rules on Aug 9, 2007 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

My Wish List
The entire patio enclave are surrounding the outfield seats are set aside for three themes each season. The food service pads would be neutralized so that they could support any fare, and the facades could be changed to redecorate to match the themes.

The spring meme would be 50's: diners and dives, with classic cars on display. Apple Pan, In'N'Out, Pink's, Ruby's. Throw in a Duke's or Bob's Big Boy. Maybe even Cafe 50's or Charlie's Chili.

In summer we would have BBQ, and it would include one actual stop on the summer BBQ competition circuit. Contestants cook out on the parking lot before the games and fans could sample foods out there as part of a large tailgate party that date. More corporate entities would serve in the stadium throughout the summer. I could go Claim Jumper, but I would rather open those pads up to some of the great street side BBQ cooks in South Central LA. I don't know how to do it, though.

Fall would be the Mexican meme. Baja, baby. Fresh, hand-made tortillas being grilled all game long. A cantina. An authentic taqueria. Yeah, throw in a couple of chains such as Frescas and La Salsa or something.

The concourses behind the main seating areas throughout the rest of the park revert to standard, traditional, ballpark fare (except for the sit-down restaurant pads, which are sold to the Hooters, Panda Express, corporate types for highest bid).

But let's get serious about the standard fare, huh? No more Weinerschnitzel crap. For the money there is still plenty of profit for high-end, kosher, dogs. And stop boiling them, dammit. The fries are a great recent improvement. Keep those. Package the foods into meals (1, 2 or 3 dogs; peanuts or fries. That's #1 thru #6.) The vast majority of customers order from the meals and add their drink. The meals come boxed as a kit with condiments and napkins. Faster to put together in the back, faster to take away from the counter. No need for the time and space of condiment counters. Quicker service and better traffic flow all around.

Finally, you know all those nice specialty pads and bars that are outside the councourses? LEAVE THEM OPEN 1 HOUR AFTER GAMES. It's not like you are going to be busy cleaning up or anything. You have huge crowds of people who are going to be milling about anyway, waiting for exit traffic to clear. Encourage that. Give them a place to congregate and mingle and spend their money. Change the prices to Happy Hour. Play some decent rock on the PA system. Maybe develop them into singles bars. Lord knows the stadium is already on the verge of being the single largest meat market in the county. All it needs is a tipping point.

by Stirrups on Aug 9, 2007 10:16 AM PDT reply actions  

once again..GENIUS, SHEER GENIUS
for the sweet tooth...a gourmet, ehem, chocolate and homemade MM???? For the "after game" diamond & club level elite?

The collective dream come true???  :-D

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. earl wilson

by ladybug on Aug 9, 2007 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah!
I totally forgot confections and coffee! That's a good one for the post-game Diamond Club crowd. It would be a bad idea to sprinkle Coffee Bean stations around the exit areas after the games too, just in general principal.

by Stirrups on Aug 9, 2007 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah
nothing like alert drunks
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. earl wilson

by ladybug on Aug 9, 2007 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I meant to say
it would not be a bad idea.

Although, alert drunks now filled with a diuretic and in semi-control of a 3 ton vehicle that needs to get them home to the toilet faster than the flow of traffic allows might be, on the whole, a bad idea after all.

by Stirrups on Aug 9, 2007 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOW
I made YOU change your mind???

I'm going outside to look for the flying pigs.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. earl wilson

by ladybug on Aug 9, 2007 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some great ideas above
I wholeheartedly endorse the concept of real BBQ.  Chicken, tri-tips & hot links.  For that matter, burgers cooked on a grill are killer, too.

Taco truck-style tacos!  Asada, pastor & carnitas on little corn tortillas.  They typically sell for a buck a piece; but even at $2.25 at the stadium, you could still eat well and not break the bank.  Hire local taco truck operators, not some dumbed-down bland corporate wannabes.  Have a salsa bar where customers can add onions, cilantro and choose from a variety of salsas.  An adjacent aguas frescas purveyor would top it off nicely.

by jjackflash on Aug 9, 2007 10:42 AM PDT reply actions  

something to consider...
why would any respectable eatery want to walk into a this rat shitstorm when being connected to the rats could negatively spill over to bad publicity for their out of stadium business. it's going to have to be someplace that's desperate.

by thejd on Aug 9, 2007 12:05 PM PDT reply actions  

On the other hand, if ya can't beat 'em, EAT 'EM
Snacked on by over half the world, a "plentiful" and lean source of protein, a favorite of the Garden Grove jet-set, I nominate these little stadium occupants as the latest in fad dining.  A little Sriracha sauce on them and, voila!!, they'll taste like chicken.  And what a substitution for those Hooters wings!

by PieceOfAase on Aug 9, 2007 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

this post is just redundant
to the Jack-In-The-Box proposal.

by rbrianc on Aug 9, 2007 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is this you say?
Refresh me on the "Jack in the Box Proposal."

by PieceOfAase on Aug 9, 2007 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

ever try Jack's tacos?
and do you ever see stray cats or rats around any JITB? Coincidence? i think not.

and how you described rat meat (some lean seasoned protein) sounded like one of their JITB tacos - (i do like them btw).

But seriously my contribution (Rev did ask for seriousness here): Arte should drive through Pedro's in San Clemente on the way from La Jolla. I'm surprised no one's mentioned that yet.

but the poster who said 'who would want their food associated with Angel Stadium now?' hit a very good point.

i haven't given this much thought because all i care are abot the W's and don't go to the games too much, but today, Jim Rome's Rat Family would be a good tie-in - we should trade for Randy Johnson for instance. Make Mike Shanahan a coach (unfortuantely), i couldn't find any active links to Rome's gallery - does any one remember any more look-alkes?

And what kid of the '60's doesn't remember Rat Patrol?

Disney could do a cross-promo with Ratatouille. Instead of sausage races, we could get a few rats.

by rbrianc on Aug 9, 2007 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Y'know, when you mention it
about the only thing that I see around Jack in the Box is the token homeless dude (Soylent Green anyone???) out by the dumpster (PCH/Warner JITB), yet never a rodent/feline. As long as they don't mess with my $0.99 Jumbo Jacks.  

Pedro's Tacos (and their carne asada) is the Pink's of Orange County -- EVERYONE should make a pilgrimage to its hallowed grounds.

R.I.P NAUGLES

by PieceOfAase on Aug 9, 2007 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

bingo aase...
give us lemons we'll make lemonade or give us rats we'll make rat dogs, rat soup. there should be a bizarre foods stand a la anthony bourdaine/no reservations on the travel channel. the NO RESERVATIONS diner. rats, dog, cat, bugs, etc.

by thejd on Aug 9, 2007 1:15 PM PDT reply actions  

They could do what Chapman University did
Kick out Aramark and bring in Sodexho. If you didn't go to CU, you have no idea what I'm talking about, though...

Regardless of who they get to provide concession services, there needs to be an overall improvement in the typical stadium cuisine. Even if there are cheaper alternatives, they should provide quality dogs, nachos, and fries.

I've also seen at various street fairs that In-N-Out has a mobile grill. I've even seen it at car dealerships. Just set up two of those in the stadium, serving hot Double Doubles all game long. Mmmmmmm.

Also, the street tacos are a must. A full-blown cantina doesn't seem realistic, unless it replaces  Hooters (that's an idea...). A couple street taco vendors throughout the stadium with salsa bars instead of condiment troughs would give people a chance to grab a taco or two for a decent price while embracing that latino influence of the area.

Oh, and kick out panda express in favor of del taco ;)

by iLoveLamp on Aug 9, 2007 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Aramark owns the contract
through 2016.

And it probably isn't their fault that the Angels don't perform custodial duty until the day after. So I doubt that Aramark is in breach of that contract.

by Stirrups on Aug 9, 2007 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many restaurants
make their landlords do the dishes?

by Rev Halofan on Aug 9, 2007 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aramark
received "an overall low rate of food safety violations".

They do the food handling and, as the contractors for the food service areas, they get the dings for no hot water, poor food handling, poor refrigeration, and improper hand washing. But they have passing rates for those problems.

The vermin problem, though, falls directly to the Halos due to "flaws in stadium maintenance practices" (meaning cleaning up the food waste in the public areas), which is the responsibility of the Angels. And the Angels have admitted that this is their job and that they have to change their practices.

by Stirrups on Aug 9, 2007 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bad Idea
My son goes to Chapman and the food there is EXPENSIVE and bad!  I don't know who runs it, but it is no wonder that at lunch all the outside stands and restaraunts are packed.
Feels like the 1970's all over again. <sigh>

by Moondoggy on Aug 10, 2007 6:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sodexho is terrible
they had/have them up at UCSC, and they were chased off because of their shitty, bland food and their awful, awful menus.  No one could stand them, and the students protested (not that those backwards-ass hippie loonies need an excuse to protest) until the dining operations were turned over to the school to run by itself.  Their service was horrible, and the food in line with prison grub...which is no surprise considering Sodexho basically served a uniform menu to every institution it served, INCLUDING prisons.
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by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 10, 2007 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't start going there
until after they left, so I only heard all about the aftermath and experienced it for like, 2 meals, on visits before I started going to the school.  Banana Slugs probably would have been an upgrade over what they gave out.  But I don't go to school there anymore since I transferred during sophomore year.
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by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 10, 2007 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vlad's Mom
making her famous rice and beans.

by LosAngel on Aug 9, 2007 3:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Different topic, but.....
Did I just see something about Scott Spiezio getting busted for substance abuse?

Rick Ankiel got called up.

by bc56274 on Aug 9, 2007 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I would venture to suggest
that Arte sit down the high mucky-mucks of Aramark and make them eat the food, especially Carl's Jr.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. earl wilson

by ladybug on Aug 9, 2007 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

They could hire me.
I've said this before: I really want one of those 6 dollar teriyake burgers! If I had to eat it under contract, then I have an excuse to blow my diet!!

I got NOOOOO problem with Carl's Jr. food.

by Stirrups on Aug 9, 2007 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

As somebody else mentioned upthread
Aramark has the contract for the next nine years.  I'm not sure what changes could be implemented even if the contract could be voided (say, by a material breach), because I have a suspicion that all the behind-the-counter labor is unionized.
Hoping Ervin Santana turns it around in Salt Lake. Go, Ervin!

by scareduck on Aug 9, 2007 6:33 PM PDT reply actions  

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