Mainstream Media Steroid Conspiracy
Since March (or was it February), we have been prickteased by the media to get a boner ready over the soon to be revealed end of the world steroid scandal story.
In Spring Training, Angel Gary Matthews, Jr. was named.
Today, Troy Glaus was named.
Only one other player (Cardinal Rick Ankiel), has been named in the investigation - and all three have been reported by mainstream media and all have only made reference to undisclosed sources.
In some political campaigns, a candidate is advised to disclose unsavory information in a willing fashion, to deluge the media with all the pertinent information once it is clear the opposition is beginning to find trickles of it anyway. Do it early enough, and the scandal goes away, as the candidate can always say something akin to "Oh, I have discussed this ad nauseum and I am done discussing it, I am here to talk about working for the American People," when he or she is confronted with the awful truth a few weeks or months down the road.
This time-honored political strategy crossed my mind because I feel like the mainstream media has it in for the Angels, but that is just a feeling, I cannot prove it. But I can absolutely state that the national mainstream sports media is preconditioned to love the Red Sox, Yankees and - to a lesser degree - the Mets. Reporting on these teams is fellatio manifest. And so it is not too hard to put two and two together that these media outlets may have info on a BIG star or two from one or more of these "preferred" teams and have decided to trickle out a few names to build up the public's distaste NOT FOR steroid abuse, but for the reporting ITSELF of steroid abuse.
So when a prominent Yankee or Red Stocking is finally revealed to have juiced, the national media outlets will be able to quickly report that the public is sick of all this and just does not care and it is time to move forward, and they just will not cover the story in as detailed a fashion then as they have recently.
But everyone has a conspiracy theory these days now, don't they?
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by mheumann on Sep 8, 2007 12:40 AM PDT reply actions
i was thinking the same thing when i saw that
A-Roids?
I just think it's kinda funny
Rev, you are incredibly talented!
by Brad @ Halos Heaven on Sep 8, 2007 1:20 AM PDT reply actions
Jason Giambi
I personally believe A-Rod has dipped into the HGH
Look at those
Dude has some monster paws at the end of his arms.
Now Rev
While I may agree about getting the bad news out of the way I don't think there's anything that can be pointed to that is team specific, meaning I don't think the media has it out for the Angels.
I do think the media has it out for Selig, however, and the institution of baseball for that matter. Rev, don't start with the paranoia or I'll have to mention Theresa Duncan and Jeremy Blake!!!! Now those two were certainly paranoid.
Right question, wrong answer
- An IRS agent thought he was an "asshole," and set about to investigate everything surrounding his regimen; and
- His Grand Jury testimony -- which, by interpretation of constitutional law, is supposed to be secret, since you do not have the usual Fifth Amendment protections afforded you in a courtroom -- were published like a half-hour later.
The next bit of suspicious leaking is Ankiel. The feel-good story of '07? The post-Bonds poster boy for the game? Let's kneecap that one right away, to mobilize public pressure on the Player's Union to cooperte with the Mitchell investigation. I'm sure we'll see the drip-drip through pennant race, designed to make the players nervous & then more willing to deal.
I just don't see where an anti-Angels conspiracy fits in....
Wrong!! You certainly do have 5th amendment...
Slightest idea?
In truth, the government has been using the façade of the "grand jury process" to subvert the Bill of Rights--especially the Fourth Amendment's ban on unreasonable seizures of private papers and the Fifth Amendment's ban on compulsory examination under oath. Policymakers who care about the Bill of Rights and civil liberties must roll back the powers of the grand jury until the protections set forth in the Fourth and Fifth Amendments are restored. [...]The Fifth Amendment prohibits compulsory self-incrimination. In criminal prosecutions, the accused cannot be compelled to take the witness chair and forced to answer questions posed by the prosecutor. And the Supreme Court has repeatedly noted that citizens are under no legal obligation to speak with police officers.61 For example, FBI agents may stop you on the street or knock on the door of your home and request an interview, but you are perfectly free to decline. Because police and prosecutors spend their time and attention on trying to detect and punish lawbreakers, they often come to view constitutional principles as "problems" and "obstacles" to be overcome. The primary method by which the federal government gets around the Fifth Amendment's prohibition on self-incrimination and the principle of voluntary cooperation with law enforcement is the grand jury subpoena.62
Although citizens can decline an invitation to go "downtown to police headquarters to answer a few questions," they are not free to decline a subpoena to appear before a grand jury.63 And it is an open secret that it is fairly easy for an FBI agent or federal prosecutor to obtain a grand jury subpoena for just about any person. (In a telling twist, executive branch personnel sometimes claim that they are beyond the reach of grand juries!)64 Like subpoenas for documents, the subpoena to testify is issued in blank by the clerk of the court to the prosecutor, who will then fill in the name of the person before service. 65 The prosecutor does not have to seek the approval of a judge or the grand jurors themselves to summon a witness.66 Once the subpoena is served upon a person, his constitutional right to remain silent essentially evaporates. Consider the legal minefield that awaits a grand jury witness:
- It is a federal crime for a person who has been served with a subpoena to decline to appear before the grand jury. In fact, this is a crime for which a person can be punished "summarily," which means a judge can mete out a jail sentence without a jury trial, bench trial, or any trial at all.67
- Once a federal grand jury witness makes an appearance, he must answer the questions that are posed by the prosecutor. Most laypeople are shocked to discover that there is essentially no limit to the types of questions that can be put to witnesses. To take one prominent example, during the scandalplagued Clinton administration, federal prosecutors demanded that Marcia Lewis reveal to a grand jury any information about sexual liaisons that her daughter, Monica Lewinsky, had confided to her. Of course, most cases receive no publicity whatsoever, but it is not uncommon for prosecutors to demand that parents and siblings reveal information about close relatives. Any witness who appears before the grand jury but declines to answer questions may be summarily jailed without a trial if a judge determines that a valid claim of privilege does not apply.68 [...]
- Witnesses usually have some general familiarity with their right to invoke the Fifth Amendment and to refuse to answer questions that might incriminate them. However, the law does not permit the witness to determine what is a valid invocation of his constitutional right. The prosecutor has the power to drag a witness from the grand jury room to a regular courtroom to see a judge. The judge has the power to overrule the witness and compel him to answer the prosecutor's questions. If the witness declines, he can be summarily jailed.70
- Witnesses are also expected to know precisely the right moment during compulsory examination to invoke their right against self-incrimination. If a witness is too cooperative and answers a few questions on a particular topic, but then chooses to invoke his constitutional right against self-incrimination, the prosecutor can argue that the "door has already been opened" and that the witness has "waived" his right to maintain silence. If the witness declines to answer additional questions in such circumstances, he can be summarily jailed. This explains why some attorneys advise their clients to invoke the Fifth Amendment in response to every single question. Witnesses who do not have the benefit of legal counsel in such situations will be bewildered by this "sorry, you just gave up your rights" procedure and will likely find themselves indicted--either for their silence or for their judicially mandated "confession."71
- Federal prosecutors have the power to separate witnesses from their attorneys, which, of course, makes the legal minefield even more treacherous. It is standard practice to prevent grand jury witnesses from consulting with attorneys during the compulsory examination. Unlike witnesses who appear before legislative committees, or depositions in civil litigation, witnesses are not allowed to have their attorneys accompany them into the grand jury room and give cautionary advice as questions are posed.
This thread is dumb. Period.
Glaus is accused of steroid use, not HGH. How would the association of his name with steroids -- after years of reports of steroid use by Bonds, McGwire, Palmeiro, Tejada, Giambi, Sheffield, and Sosa and insinuations of steroid use by Clemens, Schilling, and A-Rod -- possibly make the public less interested in hearing a steroid scandal related to Jeter, Ortiz, Delgado, or Pedro? It's the most fanciful and paranoid waste of words I've ever seen on this site.
The bigger story than Glaus, as presented by the media, was actually Ankiel. And breaking this story, considering Ankiel's statistics since his return and the feel-good nature of his comeback, is as big as it would be for almost any other baseball player right now. Nobody would leak this story while holding onto some bigger fish simply to disinterest the public in future reporting. You'd have to be an idiot to believe that.
by DChalofan on Sep 8, 2007 10:21 AM PDT reply actions
Maybe you are right
If a credible source
by DChalofan on Sep 8, 2007 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
i was never a big believer in the east coast...
Say what you want but
I think you are right Rev is Vlad was dirty this would have been out there instantly.
Everybody's gotta have one bag of nuts
If this makes sense to Rev, more power to him. Let's just see what happens in 2008, when ARod is a Halo. I say that is when the league office finally calls him on his illegal bat. Yeah, I got me a bag of nuts too.
The Canadian National Post reports
Truth and Consequences
Makes sense why rehabbing players would take Nandronone. Nandronone removes a lot of soreness after intense running so it is great for soccer but players who use it in Europe get banned for using it. It was still acceptable in baseball when Mark Maguire was using it. In Europe recently, a few players got two-year bans.
Test all the players on a random basis, make it mandatory and if they get caught, then they can sit out for a while. I guess the player's union won't like it. It's just a lack of balls from the powers that be.
There's definitely a east coast bias and there are so many night games so the Angels gets less exposure. I think it's a positive since the media attention is less intense. Just bring in another championship and leave the attention for Beantown and NYC.
by ArtAngelFan10 on Sep 8, 2007 1:37 PM PDT reply actions
As a Syracuse U. grad/former NY sportscaster...
by angelfan30 on Sep 9, 2007 11:57 AM PDT reply actions
READ WHAT I WROTE - PEOPLE...
What APPEARS TO BE happening in these non-yankee/red sox players being selectively outed by "SOURCES" is a pattern of dulling the scandalous-quality of the steroid story so that when a team that gets MLB its ratings (Yanks/Boston) it will not be the death blow of the sport.
If Papi/Jeter are outed FIRST it smashes the sport's credibility. If they are outed 44th and 45th respectively we are already numb and the sport brushes it off...
It's good to feel
One reason for an east coast bias is NYC and the time difference. Plus, historically the nation's media center and centers of capitalism are on the east coast.
National media is geare towards them cuz that's where the money is. Look at Monday Night Football, every frickin' game starts for east coast prime time no matter who is playing.
After all, it's not like Glaus is an Angel anymore, plus he was rehabing a really bad shoulder injury while he allegedely received shipments.
I just don't feel your conspiracy, Rev.
Let me break it down
WHAT is the agenda of the person trickling out the information?
A journalist's source ALWAYS has an agenda.
The SI "source" doesn't read like MLB.
The source has access to an institution that knows the names on the list, how to track those names to their target address, how to crosslink that target to the actual recipient through freinds/family/aliases, how to backtrack the alias of the prescribing doctor to the actual doctor (or ex-doctor) writing the paper, how to cross-reference all the clients from the same doctor, etc.
MLB front office is a bunch of buffoons, who need superballs flying about the infield to realize that something might be amiss with baseball bats.
So...playing along...any conspiracy would not be within MLB.
But I don't buy the next theory that this is some random individual within the Feds who is sneaking data over to SI. That person would have been shiffed out and shut down weeks ago. Instead, by their own admission SI was invited in at the beginning. More than one person within the Feds must be be aware of the relationship and info conduit with SI. Not all of those need be Yankee fans.
The trickle theory probably has more to do with the frustrations felt by the Feds in the Bonds case. They are keeping up the pressure in the court of public opinion and hoping to turn over some lucky rock where somebody talks.

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