Is Texeria still an option?

by Jay Cal on Jan 7, 2008 12:19 PM PST

Okay so the lack of Angel stove talk has spurred my creativity.

Realistically, the Braves don't have a lot of needs. However they could use a Center Fielder. Something we have a surplus of. Grant it, we're not going to be able to trade Matthews away, but what about Figgins? Now hear me out.

In a deal for Chone Figgins and Casey Kotchman, could we pluck Mark Texeria away from the Braves. I think Figgins is a native Georgian and could answer their problem in Center. Kotchman would trade places with Texeria.

Then our line up could look more like...

RF - Garry Matthews Jr.
2B - Howie Kendirck
DH - Vlad Guerrero
1B - Mark Texeria
LF - Garret Anderson/Juan Rivera
CF - Torri Hunter
3B - Izturis/Woods
C - Mike Napoli
SS - Aybar

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Reasons this trade will not happen

1. Torii Hunter took Teixeira's money

2. Casey Kotchman is too good AND too affordable to trade at this point

3. Angels Heart Figgy

4. Braves want to make a push with Teix after spending so much in the trade to get him...

by Rev Halofan on Jan 7, 2008 12:26 PM PST 0 recs

So Rev...

Is Figgins off-limits for trade talks?

And for everyone else, whom on the Angels roster could be realistically dealt without upsetting the Halo Community?

by Jay Cal on Jan 7, 2008 1:43 PM PST up 0 recs

haha

some people in the community were upset about the Jose Molina trade.

Its impossible to make a trade everyone agrees with.

Everyone here agrees we need power, but then are upset if it comes anywhere other than our farm.

People here are adament about keeping our top prosepects, so that you'd think that means they prefer free agency.

Well, when we sign free agents, people here freak out about how much money we pay them.

No matter what our team does, people are mad.

by ihearhowie2.0 on Jan 7, 2008 1:47 PM PST up 0 recs

It's not so much about the $$$

I think most people here get upset more about the LENGTH of the contracts, e.g. Matthews and Hunter at 5 years each.

by Higz on Jan 7, 2008 2:13 PM PST up 0 recs

The longer contract

Is what practically makes the decision for some of these, or most of these, players to come to Anaheim. We blew Hunters mind with our offer and he's happy to be here. If you think about it, it's a solid investment, he'll be very good for the next three to four years. If that's the case, I'll live with his 5th year... unless it's Steve Finley-esque. I get upset about Hillenbrand signings. They're vets that we feel obligatd to carry on our 25 man roster and taking a kids spot that could be used for development or a K-Rod/Figgy type September of 02. I'm curious to see what they'll do with GA after next year. Cut ties and try to keep Rivera for left/DH or go after another free agent. Do you give it to a kid and let Vlad DH 75-85% of the year? I think we're a contender now... if we remain healthy at the end of the year.

by matt92130 on Jan 7, 2008 2:54 PM PST up 0 recs

upsetting?

After the whining here over the Jose Molina trade, any and all trades will upset someone... that is a given. But Scioscia has his favorites and Figgy is near the top of that list.

They are not going to trade Vlad

they cannot (10/5 rule) trade Anderson

They cannot (no trade clause) trade Matthews

They would only trade Napoli or Mathis for a top tier player, not gonna happen

They value Wood too highly to trade him for anything other than a future hall of famer

They don't see Kendrick as "clutch" and that is why he get dangled so much

Willits is a goner or at Salt Lake to start the season (barring injury)

Kotchman is too valuable vis-a-vis his salary relative to performance.

by Rev Halofan on Jan 7, 2008 1:50 PM PST up 0 recs

Yhey

They don't see Kendrick as "clutch" and that is why he get dangled so much.

Well whomever they are , they are retarded. He's had one full season at the big league level and he's got a 300+ BA. They should be cleaning the toilets if they believe he's not clutch. I think it's more likely other teams ask for him specifically (besides Wood) and they have shown some restraint in not trading him.

Do not trade Howie!!!

by anaheimisnotla on Jan 7, 2008 3:58 PM PST up 0 recs

well

you can hit 300+ and not be clutch. It doesnt make him any less of a talented player.

A-rod is the best player in the league and is not considered clutch(even though he had plenty of walk offs last april)

I wouldnt call vlad clutch and hes our best player.

David eckstein, bengie molina were clutch hitters.

David Ortiz is probably the most clitch person ever.

So it doesnt make howie bad at all. It just means if hes up with 2 outs and we NEED him to get a hit, the jury is out on whether or not we're confident he'd come through.

by ihearhowie2.0 on Jan 7, 2008 8:28 PM PST up 0 recs

Rev,

I continue to believe that there is an obligatory "right of passage" that every young player that comes up has to endure the first one, two, or three years that they are here. It's almost as if management is intentionally torturing the new, young players in order to see how they perform under that pressure. To me, it seems a bit cruel, but I've seen such things occur in certain businesses in which I've been involved. They used the tactic primarily to squeeze maximum effort from those involved or basicly to "keep them on their toes."

It's shocking that we've seen Howie's name almost thrown around as much as it has been this off-season. But in years past, we've seen the same happen with the likes of Aybar, Kotchman, Morales, Santana, Saunders. It used to be an annual event with Washburn....and it seems that I remember a few mentions of Lackey early on. It's almost as if it's only the ones who ultimately stick.

I cannot remember any significant rumors of trades using the players that we ourselves had signed as free agents or traded for ourselves such as Rivera and Izturis. I wasn't paying attention to such things before about 2000.....maybe this is just a Stoneman thing.

by wumbug on Jan 8, 2008 4:14 AM PST up 0 recs

Rev.,

Is it just your opinion that they heart Figgins, or do your inside sources tell you this?

Also, is it your conclusion the Kendrick is not "clutch", or do your sources say as much?

by wumbug on Jan 8, 2008 7:39 AM PST up 0 recs

It is the word on the street

More than just a hunch, less than an official policy.

by Rev Halofan on Jan 8, 2008 10:55 AM PST up 0 recs

Thanks for

making it perfectly clear.

by wumbug on Jan 8, 2008 11:00 AM PST up 0 recs

eh

they pretty much sold the farm for a year and a half of tex. I doubt theyre looking to move him right now. I think theyd like to get a playoff appearance out of their investment to make it seem worthwhile. unless theyre extremely out of contetnion at the deadline, which i find highly unlikley, he'll be a brave until free agency.

by ihearhowie2.0 on Jan 7, 2008 1:35 PM PST 0 recs

Could happen

Do you guys think we could get Texeria at the trade deadline or offseason and put him at 3B and still be able to keep Kotchman? Also what's going on with signing K-Rod. If we can't sign him should we be looking into Joe Nathan?

by HapaAngel on Jan 8, 2008 10:22 AM PST 0 recs