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Division Series Games

Follow the action Thursday on SBN all day:

CHISOX @ RAYS - 11:30 a.m.

Brewers @ Phillies - 3:00 p.m.

Dodgers @ Cubs - 6:30 p.m.

BIDEN @ PALIN - 6 p.m.

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Ooh.

I wish we could follow Biden / Palin on SBnation.

by 0157H7 on Oct 2, 2008 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

LONGORIA!!!!!!

AGAIN!

Hostility abounds on Halos Heaven

by thrill000 on Oct 2, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

These inexperienced Rays look scared lol

Love Madden laughing … probably can’t wait to call scioscia

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 2, 2008 12:34 PM PDT reply actions  

TBS announcers are favoring the White Sox over the Rays.

I guess they just pick a side and go with it.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I think it's actually

That they have the word “Sox” in their team name.

The announcers probably j—z just THINKING about the other team with that word.

Light Up That Halo!

by Clutch on Oct 2, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just to keep track:

Pitches seen by Longoria – 3
Homeruns by Longoria – 2
Career playoff at basts – 2

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 2, 2008 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I wonder what Longoria's first FA contract is going to be worth. Yankee of the future.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

he already signed a 6 year contract with the rays

he’ll be 29 by the time that happens.

"Here we go baby, 'bout f***'n' time!"

by b0rd3rline on Oct 2, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the advantage to being really, really bad for a long, long time

First round draft picks.

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by Carl Johnson on Oct 2, 2008 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Does that mean the system works?

It seem like a lot of fans on other sites ( I will not mention) root for their team to lose to get the draft picks. That seems kind of sad to me, you should root for your team to win no matter what.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

At some point in a losing season the higher draft pick

may actually be better for the team.

If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.

by TheTypingFiend on Oct 2, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Biden @ Palin - 6 p. m.

Since this match is listed in the heading with the other matches, does it mean we are allowed to freely comment about it while it is going on, or will our moose get dressed?

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

No mas politics aqui, por favor. (Sorry if the spelling/grammar isn't correct).

It really takes away the enjoyment of of this site. This is a baseball sanctuary!! (IMHO)

by sothball on Oct 2, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

the Rev listed it in the Thread

it’s going to get talked about.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're such a cry baby sometimes.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

No I'm not. You are.

You’re just trying to make me feel bad about myself. I have high self-esteem…it’s not going to work. So THERE. Ha!

(Kleenex please)

by sothball on Oct 2, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I listed it

go for it. Anything to take my mind off of the game last night …

by Rev Halofan on Oct 2, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

isn't tonight a home game for Biden?

i mean, given the moderator, i think he has home-field advantage. :P

man… those Rays look like they belong. they’re relaxed and playing their game – something we know nothing about in October.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

i'll give you that

but again, the mod is writing a book about Obama. there has to be some sort of advantage there…

maybe it’s like us in the ‘04 playoffs… it’s technically Palin’s home-field, but most of the people there are going for the visitor.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know how she made it through either

supposedly Team McCain didn’t know about her book. I really find that hard to believe.

I hope she comes through as fair for both sides

by ladybug on Oct 2, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

as do i

but you know every little thing about this debate is under the microscope

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The McCain campaign agreed on Gwen Ifill being the moderator long after she announced her book. Nice try.

The Rays confidence in their game has been pretty remarkable all year. I think that has really carried them through to this point.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

apparently NOBODY knew about the book

so nice try back at ya. :)

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ifill did an interview in the Washington Post about the book on September 9th.

It kind of indicates to me maybe the McCain campaign fails to do their homework properly. I think Ifill will probably be fair, if not she will catch hell for it, and Palin will come out smelling like a rose with the golden excuse that the moderator was’nt being fair. The bar has been set so low now, Palin just needs to just appear at the debate to have done well.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find Palin's real interviews way funnier!

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's was katie Couric's and Charles Gibson's reactions to Palin's answers that were so funny to me.

I think the SNL skit’s just turned Tina Fey in to a superstar, along with her 30 Rock emmys.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude

Nobody watches SNL anymore

by Higz on Oct 2, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude

What do they watch?

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

not snl

if you want topical, funny, political news/not news you watch the daily show and colbert report not snl.

by linkbruin on Oct 2, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watch SNL mostly because that's all that is on then.

Daily Show and Colbert are just not that interesting to me. Not really my thing, those shows seem to appeal to younger audiences more.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

A hundred+ cable channels and there is nothing better on?

Admit it, you love SNL. You think it’s currently relevant enough that it turned Tina Fey into a “superstar.” I bet most people in this country don’t know who the hell Tina Fey is nor do they care. SNL is so full of itself it now seems to think it can get by on its own reputation from the days when it was actually (mildly) funny.

Personally, I would rather watch the Magic Bullet infomercial than watch SNL.

by Higz on Oct 2, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those Palin skits are being shown everywhere on every news channel all day long everyday.

That has a lot to do with it. I agree SNL is not near as funny as it used to be.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

"everywhere on every news channel all day long everyday."

You think you might be overstating this just a smidge? Hmm?

by Higz on Oct 2, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

all the cable news anyway.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

God bless the internetz

but not Al Gore… cuz that’s a lie.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's how I watch TV shows more and more. Especially shows that are on the same time Angels games are on during the season.

I just watch them later on line or the next day and fewer commercials too.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's the best way to go when you don't have TiVO or DVR

methinks.

i do that with college football games a lot of the time, too

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about...

take a drink whenever Biden asks somebody in a wheelchair to stand up?

by Higz on Oct 2, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, every time Biden makes a gaffe would be good.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

TB fans can kiss my ass.

Their attendance was pathetic this year

The Angels may have beat them 8 times in a row, but winning three before they do is all that matters.

by hauldog on Oct 2, 2008 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

clown of the game = orlando cabrera

kicking chalk/dirt at Balfour (sp) with the bases loaded 2 outs after the first pitch, and then striking out to end the inning.

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 2, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Yea, I couldn't figure what that was about

I never saw Cabrera show any tendencies to get upset at outside pitches when he was in Anaheim.

If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.

by TheTypingFiend on Oct 2, 2008 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phillies are putting up a fight.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

do the speier

doot da doot doot da dooot doooot doooot doooo, dooot da doot doooot da doooo

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 2, 2008 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

SaBADthia

Not going to look good on his resume for next year.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Manny is going to destroy Palin tonight

that sounds really dirty…

"Vlad has always found himself in the position of trying to carry his whole offense in every October he's ever been in. Different year. Different lineup. Different team. I'd never bet against that guy." Jayson Stark

by VladdyG on Oct 2, 2008 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

in bed

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by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drill Baby Drill

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by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Biden sounds like a jerk

i’ll be honest.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 6:41 PM PDT reply actions  

and palin wont answer a question

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by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

neither will Biden

they’re both dancing around questions.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

he just anwered one and palin walked around

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by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

meh.

he’s been in there for 30 years. i should HOPE be knows what he’s doing.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

dont bring up his kids!!!!

it’s on now. “yo baby is a whooooooooooooooooooooooore”

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 2, 2008 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn this is heated!!!

zzz zzz

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by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

they both brought up the serving kids. nothing wrong there.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

OOOO she did NOT just go there!

oh no she di’ent!
(snap snap snap)

XD

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

palns are great, too

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

broken record

“george bushizzzzzz”

that was cool

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 2, 2008 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

i see he was doing what he’s been coached to… it’s a load of crap, really.

but yes, “bushizzzzz” was fun. :P

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

so clearly

Joe Torre is a lot better than we all thought he was.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

fun story

i met Ethier’s mom… she was a flight attendant on my flight to Texas last December.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont really remember

i think we were talking about baseball, and the fact that my dad works with Dan Haren’s mom, so she chimed in with hers.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Biden:

“let me repeat every other sentence, and say the same crap every time!”

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 6:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Palin

let me look cute and distract u from the real issue

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by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:00 PM PDT reply actions  

she hottttt! :P

i’ll readily admit that they’re both dancing around questions, but Palin seems to be answering things a lot better.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

shes not really answering the question

biden actually is answering the question

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by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

i see the Q is rubbing off on you

you goofy, goofy man.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

never underestimate the bench players

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by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

bidens bald spot distracts me

Palin looks real, biden looks like a stuffy politician

by SFV88 on Oct 2, 2008 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

and she hott, too

eye appealing… can’t argue with that.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’ll bet Putin’s going to negotiate just ‘cause she’s hott.

Cuteness. Adorable qualities. What great qualifications for the presidency!!!!

Abraham Lincoln and Reagan are BOTH rolling in their graves.

Light Up That Halo!

by Clutch on Oct 2, 2008 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

Rutherford B Hayes

If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.

by TheTypingFiend on Oct 2, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

VICE presidency

let’s not do what the media is doing, and cast her as a presidential candidate.

and i was kidding.. my goodness.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

With McCain's age & Medical History

It’s only fair to evaluate her presidential qualities.

Biden as well, every man, woman, & child is mortal.

If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.

by TheTypingFiend on Oct 2, 2008 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

thank you for pointing that out

that is one of the WEAKEST arguments i’ve ever heard..

“oh, McCain is old, so Palin is probably going to be President”.
that’s flat-out stupid.

like you said, every person is mortal. how many people have we seen on the news turn up dead, even though they were in good health? what makes you so sure that Obama won’t be assassinated or die from some freak accident?

it’s weak.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

im fairly sure he said it for both

as in evaluate presidential qualities for both.

and it is a fact that mccain is the oldest person to run for a first term in office, and, like it or not, his age and health are a factor in this. i dont think anyone is saying mccain is going to drop dead in a few months, but people are mortal and the vp is next in line. thats essentially their job, cast never-needed tie breaking votes in the senate and wait for the president to keel over. so as a “president-in-waiting” we have to look at them as a possible prez. no one is sure and thats the point. so no need to get offended with the mccain age comment.

by linkbruin on Oct 3, 2008 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

sorry if that was taken the wrong way

i wasn’t offended, just explaining my view on it.

darn you internetz… you show no emotionz!

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 3, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or dies of lung cancer since he smokes!

Pleeeeazzzzzzze Frankie, close the games, don't make them closer!

by mamaz boys on Oct 3, 2008 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh derosa...

he’s been really good for them this year, though.
surprisingly good, really.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

1-0

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by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:04 PM PDT reply actions  

wow those bastards in LA

they are doin it

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by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:11 PM PDT reply actions  

dog gone it

i hate this woman

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by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:12 PM PDT reply actions  

you hate her because she said "doggon it"?

wow.. that’s ridiculous

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

no shes done it allll day

im tired of her cute little accent and ahhhh

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by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

lame sauce

you just stereotyped mainstream America… “they look funny, they sound funny.. that’s dumb.”

look at the issues.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

what does mainstream america even mean?

popular? topical? where the most people are?

alaska really fits none of these

by linkbruin on Oct 2, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

what does alaska have to do with this?

mainstream america.. what you hear about. what the media tells you the most about.
LIBERAL.

that a good enough definition?

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh the liberal media

if thats not a dead horse i dont know what is.

i was asking a question. what is mainstream america? i mean they were being “offended” so i wanted to know actually.

if mainstream america is the accent you were referring to, thats also not true. most of america lives on the coasts and does not share said accent. there are different accents yes, but i wouldnt call hers (palin’s) mainstream.

the media is a big beast that cant be defined with a liberal or conservative label. i could go on and on about this. but the media doesnt really lend itself to nice little categorical definitions. you have things like fox news and talk radio, where do they fit in the liberal media definition?

and the most watched form of this media beast we’re discussing is local news. and thats generally intended to scare people. Fear-mongering….fear outsiders, consumer products, etc etc. Thats just plain fear, no lean

the liberal media label is done with zero analysis, and is tiresome. theres a much bigger picture to look at. theres no such thing as unbiased news, but its not a one-sided bias. not even close.

by linkbruin on Oct 3, 2008 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

How many times did she mention George Bush or his awesome administration?

Just that she wanted to continue Bush’s never ending Iraq war policies in Afghanistan with a brand new surge. Where ya gettin’ da troops for that Sarah – you betcha?

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

blah blah blah

same crap we hear from the media.

actually she RARELY brought up the current administration – that was Biden’s doing. and she criticized Biden for doing it.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

She never brought up the Bush administration. The GOP has disassociated itself from Bush.

They have no plan and nothing at all to run on. All they have left is try to attack Obama with lies, fabrications, and racism to try to sway votes. I don’t think it’s going to work for them this time.

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by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah sure, when you don't listen to what they say

they have nothing to run on.

what does Obama have? one word. one effing word that’s appealing to people’s emotions. change. that’s it. he has no stance on ANYTHING whatsoever… just an appeal to emotion.

racism? wow, there’s a first. they have YET to bring up anything racist.
and if you wanna talk racism, how about Obama’s “spiritual leader”, his pastor?? you wanna take about racism.. there it is.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

people dont vote on issues

sad but true. thats why theres the attacks and the appeals to emotion. both sides do it. people dont listen to the issues.

obama does have stances on issues. as does mccain. but that is not what neither is running their campaign on. its “change vs the maverick”. Thats it. Thats the campaign. Done.

Theyre both intelligent men with stances, thats not what campaigns are about though

by linkbruin on Oct 3, 2008 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

record low approval numbers will do that

palin and mccain do not want any association with the bush administration. thats political suicide. their issue stances are very similar, thats why its funny to see republicans running from bush like he has smallpox or something

by linkbruin on Oct 3, 2008 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

people always hate congress

since the onset of public opinion polling, congress always has numbers less than 50%, usually in 20-30 range. you’ll get the rally-around-the-flag-effect and their approval goes up, but thats rare.

Congress is hated by people. Wonder when theyre actually going to do something about that. You know be more responsive to their constituents, the people that elect them/.

by linkbruin on Oct 3, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

People usually like their congressal reps

just not the other 532

If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.

by TheTypingFiend on Oct 3, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what congress is supposed to do, oversight, checks and balances.

No matter who the president is in the White House.

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by 44FAN on Oct 3, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

oversight and straight attacking are two VERY different things

the Democratic Congress is content on sitting on their and screaming and Bush for letting the world implode. that’s flat-out stupid.

i hate Nancy Pelosi.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 3, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's just politics howiestheman, that's how it works in Washington.

It is the voice of partisanism, two parties with very different views always jockeying for power. You were like what eleven or twelve when George Bush came into office in 2000? Then you have known mostly a Republican controlled congress with a Republican president in the White House. Their hold on power has enabled them to keep the Democratic party and their voice largely silent during their tenure.You’re just hearing the first marching footsteps of the Democratic party coming back to power.

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by 44FAN on Oct 3, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

i realize i'm young

but i’m not stupid. i understand politics very well, actually.

personally, i’m sick of it – i’m sick of the elite controlling everything, and i’m sick of partisanship. but mostly, i’m suck of everyone pointing fingers at everyone else instead of manning up, taking responsibility and getting things done.

take a look at the Barney Frank interview on The O’Reilly Factor (i know, that’s blasphemy to you). it’s exactly what i’m talking about. this idiot tried to deny something he just said! he is GREATLY responsible for a bunch of stuff that happened with this, and he’s trying to blame the GOP for it.

God help us if when the Dems come back to power… you think things are bad now? wait 2 years. we’ll see where we are then.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 3, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

the elite will always be in the power

thats what they do, they’re the elite.

but its not the elite that you think it is. anyone with a b.a. or b.s. or any grad/post-grad work could call tell themselves part of the elite/informed.

thats who will be in power because most other people simply dont care, or are one-issue centric, or only care around election time every 4 years. thats just the facts.

i would actually like this elite in power rather than the opposite.

by linkbruin on Oct 3, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

excuse me

the “financially elite” are always in control, and they always know what’s best for you. don’t you know that?

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 3, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's how the constitution was written

The guys that wrote it were mostly the elite (wealthy landowners) and didn’t want to lose their social status.

They just wanted to remove the class the was more elite than they (the nobility) from their political structure.

The US Senate wasn’t even elected totally by popular vote until less than a century ago. It was intended also as a check on the democratically elected House of Representatives.

Members of the Electoral College aren’t bound to vote for the candidate they were elected to vote for & the whole system is a republican method, not democratic.

The elite are in power because they usually have the wealth it takes to run a political campaign.

If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.

by TheTypingFiend on Oct 3, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

mccain tapped sarah palin

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by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:14 PM PDT reply actions  

i wanna tape of that action

wait…. gross.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

win.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rofl

Light Up That Halo!

by Clutch on Oct 2, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what she said

If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.

by TheTypingFiend on Oct 2, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

biden the hard workin mof****

Watching the Halos from Princeton University. The random Halo fan in a sea of Bosux and Skankee fans.

by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:21 PM PDT reply actions  

"i'm much better off than you

and i know what you’re going through."

wait… what?

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:22 PM PDT reply actions  

lets talk about the maverick

Watching the Halos from Princeton University. The random Halo fan in a sea of Bosux and Skankee fans.

by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:23 PM PDT reply actions  

damn biden swinging

Watching the Halos from Princeton University. The random Halo fan in a sea of Bosux and Skankee fans.

by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:23 PM PDT reply actions  

now I know why they call him slow joe

typical spin dr. Palin looks real. Man you guys who think he is wining are so blind, no wonder they call our state Commiefornia , socialism must make you dem’s go deaf bumb and blind.

by SFV88 on Oct 2, 2008 7:27 PM PDT reply actions  

"you guys who think he is winning"?

there are 4 ppl talking about this right now in here … and i don’t even live in california or think he is “winning”

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 2, 2008 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

straight up

even though im from california (currently in New Jersey)
 and that woman has no idea what a real american family
my family is an american family

Watching the Halos from Princeton University. The random Halo fan in a sea of Bosux and Skankee fans.

by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

you go to Princeton

and you’re the typical American family?

excuse my skepticism.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think his point is that

He’s an American family.
He didn’t claim to be typical.
Who is really?

If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.

by TheTypingFiend on Oct 2, 2008 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

okay, that's fair

but i fail to see how Palin has no idea about what an American family is.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not too sure what his point is

But I’m sure it has something to do with the Halos needing to man up and beat Matsuzaka tomorrow night!

If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.

by TheTypingFiend on Oct 2, 2008 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're darn right that's what he meant!

and i approve that message.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

yo im the kid who rose up from santa ana

went to shitty schools and lifted himself up to go to princeton
i worked my ass off
my parents worked full time jobs all my life and neither have finished high school
we are the hard working americans who get screwed over by people like mccain who claim that helping the rich will help the poor

OBAMA

Watching the Halos from Princeton University. The random Halo fan in a sea of Bosux and Skankee fans.

by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 3, 2008 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your parents didn't bother to finish high school...

yet it’s people like McCain who screwed your family over?

That’s funny.

Yeah, and your life sounds pretty shitty, what with attending Princeton and everything. I feel really sorry for you.

BOO FUCKING HOO

by Higz on Oct 3, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

maybe take a chill pill

its not like he just pissed in your coffee or something.

by linkbruin on Oct 3, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

dude whats your problem?

i dont understand the hate.

people are responsible for their own actions but they’re also not responsible for the situation they are born in to.

thats the whole “american dream” cliche, rising up. thats what all parents want, for their kids to do better than they did.

i dont know what made you so cynical.

by linkbruin on Oct 3, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the concern.

The American Dream also doesn’t include blaming others for your problems.

I’m not surprised that you find my viewpoint hateful. It’s all peace, love, and bong hits when you’re still in university surrounded by the kids who make up the student body and faculty.

Sorry to harsh your mellow, bro. I guess I didn’t realize a stern reality check aimed AT SOMEONE ELSE would cause YOU so much distress.

by Higz on Oct 3, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

because people do have things in common

and ive had many stern reality checks while ive been in college.

i just saw no reason for you to go out and insult a guy for really no reason. but hey lets just hate on random people we dont know for simply trying too hard…yeah thats a good attitude.

enjoy your cynics of the month meeting or your aa one, they’re both the same anyways.

by linkbruin on Oct 4, 2008 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

and for that, i have all the respect in the world for you

but blaming “people like mccain” is ridiculous.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 3, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a culture of victimization.

Nobody is responsible for his own actions. It’s always someone else’s fault.

Unless you do something good, then you can take all the credit.

by Higz on Oct 3, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

amen to that, brotha

it’s sad, but it’s true.
that’s what happens when you can’t parent kids anymore… “they’re always right.. don’t hurt their feelings.. it’s not your fault!”
what a load of crap.

and we wonder why this country is in the toilet. it’s time to man-up. that’s the difference between the 40’s, let’s say, and now. people back then took responsibility and pulled themselves up. people nowadays just sit back and cry and wait for someone else to fix it.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 3, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The first half of the 40's was World War II, and the nation was in crisis.

The government largely controlled what people could and could not do during that time. Post War, brought the GI bill (a huge government program) that allowed soldiers coming home from the war to secure government backed loans at low interest rates to buy their first homes. This lead to the growth of cities and suburbs that fed consumerism and a progressive economy during the next two decades. The GI bill also gave every veteran the right to attend college that also benefited the economy. Strong unions trained people to work in trades that supported manufacturing and protected them with 40 hour work weeks, fair pay for work, healthcare, and retirement pensions. Much of this is gone now due to deregulation and union busting during the Reagan – Bush years and the Bush years again. Factories have closed and jobs shipped over seas. The GI bill is just an example, from the decade you chose, that government has played a large role though out our history when crisis and need of the people is required to keep the country strong and healthy. Barack Obama wants to return the government back to helping out the people who truly have need, as in no healthcare, job creation, and an energy policy that helps us instead of the failed conservative policies of the last seven and a half years.

Recipient of the 2008 "The Iron Man" award from scottnak of Halos Heaven!

by 44FAN on Oct 3, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

i would never try to take anything away from what FDR did

easily one of the best presidents we had.

BUT created more government and more useless programs is NOT the answer. Barack Obama wants to create all kinds of new programs that will just suck up more money (as if we’re not abusing Social Security already…)

The government should help, yes, but it should not be a crutch to live on, and that’s what the real problem is.

and if you want to blame someone for where we are now, blame Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. THEY are the ones that created this mess by forcing banks to loan money to people who could not pay it back. thus, the markets fell, and now the taxpayers are screwed.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 3, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

This back and forth is why I didn't want to join this political thread. This is a site for Angel Baseball!!!!

I am (I believe like most citizen’s of this great land) fiscally conservative and socially libertarian (well mostly libertarian).
Do you believe this will be covered in the debates? It’s not even a part of the national conversation. Does anyone realize how much debt we are piling on future generations? This is something I would like to see discussed. But its not even on the radar.

Good luck to you and others during the balance of your political discussions. Thus ends my final post on politics at HH.

by sothball on Oct 3, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea

Thanks mom & dad

If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.

by TheTypingFiend on Oct 3, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

win

i’m glad i’m not alone here…

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I loled at the

“deaf bumb and blind.” I’m guessing Mr. Smarty Pants meant deaf dumb and blind? Or is that aprty of my pinko commie propaganda?

Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!

by teopeht on Oct 2, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

aw my attempt to mock his spelling failed.

*part

Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!

by teopeht on Oct 2, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe you'll think about this next time

I hope you learned a lesson.

If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.

by TheTypingFiend on Oct 2, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

If a male candidate was talking like Palin, he would e laughed off the stage.

She’s only getting away with her crap because she is a woman. She is doing a good job working the talking points into her answers. She is leaning heavily on her cheat sheet. Biden is’nt attacking enough, he is being too nice. It was great when Biden corrected her about the vice-president’s constitutional roll with regard to congress and how dangerous Cheney has been.

Recipient of the 2008 "The Iron Man" award from scottnak of Halos Heaven!

by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 7:28 PM PDT reply actions  

she said blessed!

someone take a drink!

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:30 PM PDT reply actions  

god bless you biden

Watching the Halos from Princeton University. The random Halo fan in a sea of Bosux and Skankee fans.

by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:32 PM PDT reply actions  

God hates libs.

it’s in the Bible.

i hate her!

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait god hates liberals!!!!

Watching the Halos from Princeton University. The random Halo fan in a sea of Bosux and Skankee fans.

by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 2, 2008 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think many "Joe six-packs" or hockey moms were able to sit through that.

Recipient of the 2008 "The Iron Man" award from scottnak of Halos Heaven!

by 44FAN on Oct 2, 2008 7:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I bet Scioscia is watching this game thinking :

Why isn’t Andrew Jones playing? He’s a gold glover with a decent bat.

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Oct 2, 2008 7:39 PM PDT reply actions  

hahahaha

yeah, you’re probably right.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

ouch

"i got 5ive on it"

by Funke5ive on Oct 2, 2008 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

did he just hit another one?

good heavens… i hate him, i really do.
but holy crap – that man can HIT

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

So much for the 100 year curse, eh?

If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.

by TheTypingFiend on Oct 2, 2008 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

theres a curse on the Cubs?

where have i been?

i thought they were just not very good for the past century.

by linkbruin on Oct 2, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

man, i would LOVE for our game tomorrow to look like this LA-Chi game

with us on the winning side, of course.

“the dodgers are manufacturing offense at will!” :P

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Oct 2, 2008 9:31 PM PDT reply actions  

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