TRADE BAIT: Howie Kendrick
by Rev Halofan on Oct 20, 2008 2:27 AM PDT
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PrintHas Howie Kendrick fallen from grace? He turns 26 in July. He is a singles and doubles machine. He will not see arbitration for another year. Those are the good things.
He has not shown the ability to stay healthy. He has not show the ability to hit the curveball or slider. He has not shown major league ability in clutch situations and especially in any game that truly matters.
We could get a LOT for Howie Kendrick. His glove is replaceable, his batting average is not. But if we could get say, Jake Peavey for Howie and Adenhart straight up, why shouldn't we make Mister Nontober... TRADE BAIT ?!?!?
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Definitely
If Howie Kendrick could be the centerpiece of a deal that lands us Peavy or another marquee player then I say trade him. Despite his .306 batting average this season his OPS+ was 98, 2 points below average. And his lack of patience is not just a recent trend, it’s been a characteristic he has had his whole career. He had a .360 career batting average and a .398 OBP in the minors. Both are exceptional but when you look at that .398 OBP with respect to his batting average it’s disgustingly atrocious.
by Chzburger Jones on Oct 20, 2008 4:36 AM PDT reply actions
I do not agree...
…we have had the pitching to get us to the playoffs for years. Pitching has not been our problem. We need more of what Howie can do and that is hit. ALDS notwithstanding, Howie is a hitter, plain and simple! I wanted to puke watching him a couple weeks ago. Then again I wanted to puke watching Figgy in 04 or our hitting in any of the other recent playoff years. It is time to maintain our pitching and focus the majority of our energy on our offense. Howie is part of that offense.
Whodathunk we would be rooting for a former Ranger come August, er September, er October...? Miss ya Kotch, but Tex is THE man!
I don't know
If Howie goes, we’re not getting a 2B back, who do we replace him with, S-Rod? Anybody else here think that S-Rod is ready to be an everyday 2B at the big leaugue level? Maybe, but I think he still had quite a bit of trouble in Sept. with striking out. The glove is definately better then Howie’s is, but his bat is’t even close. Maybe an offseason of HK stewing over blowing it in October is what he needs to figure out those last few nuances in his approach to hitting, and in his conditioning, that pushes him to that batting title hitting we have been waiting for. Like I said, I don’t know, this is one I’m glad I don’t have to make the decision on.
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Selling Low
I think this decision really rests on who we get back. Someone who is a perennial All-Star, I think it then becomes debatable if you include HK47. If it’s anyone else, I’d say no. To get his kind of offense from the 2B position is fairly difficult, especially when you hear about the 2B FA’s and who is considered a top offensive 2B. The other issue though is after the injury concerns, lower BA and post-season struggles, it might be difficult to get full value for Howie at this point. There’s no doubt that teams will value him highly, just maybe not as highly as they did a year ago.
Howie Kendrick...
…had a poor ALDS. That’s it. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
I’d have to be blown away with an offer to even consider moving him.
I see red people
bingo
the deal would have to be one we can’t refuse. i’m not ready to give up on howie either….just get him the hell away from his batting coach.
bada bing
It all comes back to Mickey Hatcher
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by halofan4life on Oct 20, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
J. Peavy type pitchers are tough to find
Howie for Peavy is fine by me. Just look for Izzy to head over to second and give S. Rod more time at Trip’s Still have Wood and Figgy. Both have played 3B/SS/2B.
By the way HK is away from Hatcher if he is a Padre
Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee
by Angel Aviator on Oct 20, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
"Howie Kendrick had a poor ALDS."
Much like George Armstrong Custer had a poor campaign into The Little Bighorn.
Francisco Rodriguez: 2006 to Present: 149 saves. 5 Panthers. As fabulous as Pride, Romero, Gregg, Budde and Dino Ebel combined.
by Stirrups on Oct 20, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And that's a wrap
Howie had an abysmal ALDS, certainly. Four games are no reason to cut bait on a player.
Witty .sig goes here.
The Limey's Right
And I think one of our problems is Hatcher. Give us a coach that makes pitchers give our hitters something to hit and I think you’d see a better HK. I like him. Health may be what keeps him down, but he should be entering his prime now. Give him a healthy season and he’s your #2 hitter. The question is whether or not he has a healthy season in him.
halofan4life
Don’t forget that we have Maicer Izturis. He can play 2nd base. Aybar or Wood will assume the starting SS role. S-Rod doesn’t necessarily have to step in right away.
by Chzburger Jones on Oct 20, 2008 8:02 AM PDT reply actions
Thank You
I was unaware of Izzy’s ability to slide over 2B, I stand corrected.
Even still, after reading some of these comments I’m more inclined to believe that we’d be better with him, unless it is an amazing offer.
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by halofan4life on Oct 20, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't you just talk about Kendrick's OPS+?
How will Wood (44 OPS+, albeit in limited playing time) or Izturis (83 OPS+) or Aybar (87 OPS+) be an upgrade over Kendrick?
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
AGE + Health
Aybar is 6 months younger than Howie, Wood is 17 months younger – both are healthier and able to stay healthy and it can be assumed that Wood will NOT put up a 44 OPS+ over a full season at the major league level.
Eybar can go...
you guys are ripping on Howie for a shitty ALDS…where was Eybar? Missing squeeze bunts…playing so so defense (his alleged strong suit)…hitting like crap….puhleazzze.
Keep Howie…same arguments as last off season!
Whodathunk we would be rooting for a former Ranger come August, er September, er October...? Miss ya Kotch, but Tex is THE man!
No one thinks Aybar is better than Kendrick
The question is whether the Angels are better with Peavey and someone other than Howie starting at 2B or standing pat with Howie. He was one of our more tradable pieces until he choked (errr, played poorly after returning from injury) in the ALDS.
Aybar is not better than Howie
No one thinks he is or will be. He is just as impatient with less power. 6 months of development is basically a crapshoot. And Aybar hasn’t exactly been the picture of health either. Izturis is clearly not getting any better.
I would also argue that Wood should not be a replacement for Howie, but a replacement for Aybar. I would love to see a Wood-Kendrick DP combo for the next 5 years at least.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
His batting average maybe, his OBP is definitely replaceable
howies bat plays pretty well at 2nd base, but he doesnt walk ever so his batting average is inflated by virtue of him swinging at and occasionally hitting balls that most hitters take for walks.
also, hes one of our biggest GIDP guys because of his contact hitting.
i love howie, but am not attached. If you can get his fair value in return, DO IT. no point in selling low though
TRADE
Howie just got scouted
The red sox found a weakness and exploited it. It happened when he first came up, too. He’ll fix that.
That said, the real reason to trade him: That questionable hamstring.
Still not over HK's debacle of a series.
The Angels may have beat them 8 times in a row, but winning three before they do is all that matters.
it depends...
if the pads call and say they want howie and a minor leaguer for peavy, it would be worth considering.
but he should not be considered in a trade for say, dan ugga (just an example – i know the marlins are saying he isn’t on the trading block).
If the Red Sox and Dodgers play for the World Series, I will not watch a single minute of a single game.
Get him out yesterday
I cant even begin to express my frustration with kendrick. SRod was doing a decent job at 2nd with Kendrick out and he and Wood made a great dp combo. Whereas Kendrick played sloppy defense in the playoffs that gave Boston extra outs. Giving Boston extra outs is like giving Pacman another chance, in the end they both screw you hard. Get him out and let Srod play or let Aybar take over at 2nd and let Wood play short.
it was one bad postseason
let’s chill out, shall we?
if he gets traded, it had better be only for some HUGE stud player, because Howie is going to be a stud (if he’s healthy).
I dunno… i see the hammy thing as kind of flukey. we’ll see what happens with him in ’09.
Kotch would've had that.
Actually, it was TWO bad postseason's, This one was worse than 2007!
by Big Bad , "VLAD"! on Oct 20, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Where's the hatred for GA then?
Howie was 2/17 this postseason while GA was 3/19, not much worse. And to touch on your point it’s been two postseasons, last year Howie was 2/10 while GA was 2/9.
I don’t know if you’re a GA supporter or not, but it seems the majority on HH wants him back but couldn’t give a shit about HK. If you have equal disdain for GA as you appear to for HK, let me apologize up front for using your post to make this point.
yes but this is the HK thread
go count the Garret Anderson WHAT TO DO thread and report back with the differntials…
by Rev Halofan on Oct 20, 2008 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
GA kept pulling the ball all series. Weak grounders to 2B,
He had a great 2002, and since then his postseason record is disapointing.
His defense was suspect.
But he isn’t tradeable.
And, It’s not hatred for HK, just a collective sense of WTF? Don’t swing at that F-ing pitch! Catch the F-ing Ball!
by Big Bad , "VLAD"! on Oct 21, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Only One?
Your not going to count 2007 when he scratched out 2 hits in 10 AB’s?
Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee
by Angel Aviator on Oct 20, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, i'm really torn here
One bad series a career does not make. What is more of a concern to me is HK’s inability to remain healthy. Now many on this board will point out that HK is a young man, but even that is a negative, if he is injury prone as a player in his mid twenties, how the hell are we too believe he can be healthy later in his career? I still think Howie is an above average 2b. But one more injury plagued season, and all trade value will be lost.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
Casey Kotchman comes to mind...
nothing but freak injuries for several years in a row…played a whole season last year. If anyone is injury prone it is Mr Hamstring himself, Gazoo Izturis…Eybar has not exactly been injury-free either…perhaps some new conditioning coaches or programs are in order!
Whodathunk we would be rooting for a former Ranger come August, er September, er October...? Miss ya Kotch, but Tex is THE man!
Oh Howie
I for one was more than frustrated with Howie and his shitty postseason. His Defense and offense reminded me of my 6 year old sons fall ball team.
As for trading him, if he and another player net a huge piece of the puzzle like a Peavy or some bug bat, I would say make the move as we do have a shitload of folks that can play a competent 2b (Izzy, Aybar, S-rod, Statia (12 months from now maybe)).
I am not for trading Howie just to trade him, I have to think he will continue to get better, and he has more than enough motivation after this postseason to get better. I believe his stock is low and now is not the time to unload him. He is young, cheap and a double machine. Give him another year and see what he has, if he can stay healthy he is our second bagger for years to come…
I do question our strenght and conditioning coach. I am so sick of hearing about all the ahmmy issues on our team. Figgy, Izzy, Aybar, HK…It seems like this is the most common injury our guys get, more than any other team. Additionally it seems like the same players have the recurring issue…shouldn’t they be working on that year round?
That depressed feeling in my stomach is the end of the 2008 Halos season!!!!
good point
on the last paragraph especially.
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by halofan4life on Oct 20, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the strength & conditioning coach may have some responsibility
but considering Howie’s history, he is either;
1) Too ignorant to realize he isn’t stretched out enough for any particular game, or
2) His hammy’s are too damn sensitive for a 162 game regular season.
Keep Kendrick
Our problem is hitting – he’s a good hitter, although he’s had injury problems. He still hasn’t reached his potential.
People talk about trading for a pitcher who would be a piece of the puzzle – only if we start stacking puzzle pieces on top of one another. We have 4 above average starters, including two legitimate aces if Santana maintains last year’s performance (which wasn’t a fluke based on his stuff). Peavy is awesome, but the gigantic whole in the middle of our puzzle is someone like Teixeira.
IF we can’t sign a big bat, then you might consider trading him, but I think people are too concerned over a 4-game stretch which just happened to be in October. He’ll be good.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
Correction: Our problem is hitting in the POSTSEASON. I'd take our 100 wins worth of hitting next season.
As we all Know, Kendrick was terrible hitting in the postseason.
REMEMBER! This was his SECOND Postseason. 2 for 10 in 07, 2 for 17 in 08.
No walks, 8 strikeouts ( a nice line if he was a pitcher)
A career OPS under .300!
So maybe the third time is the charm?
by Big Bad , "VLAD"! on Oct 20, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
No....
Our problem is hitting, period. We didn’t hit in the postseason because…
We didn’t hit all season. We finished something like 9th or 10th in the league in runs scored. Then we faced one of the top four pitching staffs in the league. What did you expect us to do?
Howie is not a different hitter in the postseason. It looked like he was pressuring himself. If that’s really something that can’t be solved (and there’s absolutely no evidence that it can’t, other than a few anecdotes about guys who couldn’t handle it), then yeah, you think about trading him. But he’ll work on some things and be fine next year.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
I think our weak hitting was there all year...
It was disguised all year by repeatedly playing against crappy teams with Triple A pitchers on over their heads who start for the likes of Seattle, Texas, and Oakland. Even a weakened Boston team with questionable or injured starting pitchers exposed our weakness, as well as our terrible approach. I understand loyalty, but c’mon Scioscia, Hatcher has got to go!!
But the thing is, it's not just Hatcher, it's the entire organization's hitting philosophy.
We sign free agents and develop draftees to be free swingers. Hatcher works with the talent given to him. He may buy into the company line, but I do occasionally hear him speak highly of patience. He’s made comments about Tex bringing patience to the lineup and hoping it encourages others to be more selective. Periodically, he seems to make some comments about patience, but it never seems to take.
I guess what I’m saying is that Hatcher may be part of the problem, but getting rid of him won’t really change much unless the entire organization changes.
You work with what you got
They may not target patience in the draft but it is really hard to break the free swingers of their poor habit.
Salmon, Glaus, Napoli, anf Kotchman all are homegrown players with a good eye.
The Angels may have beat them 8 times in a row, but winning three before they do is all that matters.
you cannot teach patience
you cannot teach a guy to run faster than he can run. same goes for plate discipline – you can hone a skill, but not create a talent where it does not exist.
by Rev Halofan on Oct 21, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm just saying it was good enough to get us 100 W's
pitching was our strength.
by Big Bad , "VLAD"! on Oct 21, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Even with Tex?
We scored a lot more with him, our worst offensive months were May and June.
GA just isn’t a good 2 hitter in my opinion, due to his low OBP.
Could HK be that guy? Only time will tell.
by Big Bad , "VLAD"! on Oct 21, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
We definitely need Tex to have a shot at it.
And your right about GA in the top of the lineup with that pathetic OBP. But the problem is that we have a lot of other hitters with OBP’s in line with GA’s. We need to get away from the swing at every pitch mentality and get some players who can hit and walk. Tex, Vlad and Naps can’t do it alone.
Rays did fine
and they didn’t have a player who batted over 275. And admittedly they were in a much hard division. So while with all our big hitters in the lineup it is surprising we didnt hit better, the stat doesn’t mean a thing.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Oct 21, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Adios Howie...
May your career blossom in another division and league. More importantly, what we get in return will be wearing a ring before you ever will.
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
nah . I think he's going to blossom( eventually)
………….well, maybe not. Or yes. Or no. Oh crap Howie, either suck like Mathis or be good like U-haul!
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The O Dog Orlando Hudson is a free agent. Mark Ellis too. Talk about stellar D with Pop.
Figgy plays second too, doesn’t he?
And the afore mentioned Izzy/Aybar/S-rod/Wood scenario’s and it seems there are a lot of options.
We could live to regret it, but maybe not.
The Twins are probably pretty sad they let BGGarza go.
by Big Bad , "VLAD"! on Oct 20, 2008 4:34 PM PDT reply actions
Mark Ellis reupped with Fremont
The Angels may have beat them 8 times in a row, but winning three before they do is all that matters.
Yah yer right, I guess wishfull thinking, But hey, is he more injury prone than HK?
by Big Bad , "VLAD"! on Oct 20, 2008 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
They seem the same
If they could sign him to a reasonable contract I would go for it, but no more than 2 years. Of course someone will offer him a 3 or 4 year contract. In that case no thank you.
If HK was traded. 2 years o Hudson might be worth the risk.
Yah , 3-4 years would be too long.
by Big Bad , "VLAD"! on Oct 21, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I mentioned OPS+
in regards to Howie because he is supposed to be an all-star player and a potential batting champion. Aybar and Izturis will and were never expected to be franchise players. What they have done offensively is pretty much what we bargained for so I’m not disappointed with that. Besides, I’m pretty sure that Izturis was our best hitter w/RISP. When you are a .300+ hitter with a below average OPS+, that just tells me that he isn’t as good as advertised. He needs to learn more patience and learn how to hit breaking balls but over these past couple of years I haven’t seen much adjustment from him, if any at all. And his lack of patience has always been there even throughout his minor league career so that’s is something that can’t be changed over night.
by Chzburger Jones on Oct 20, 2008 5:18 PM PDT reply actions
Except you mentioned it
Within the context of replacing Howie Kendrick with Aybar or Izturis, who are clearly worse offensive players. I agree that Howie was disappointing last year compared to expectations, although I would contend that most of that stemmed from his lack of consistent playing time due to injury. Before his second stint on the DL, he was tearing it up and had a 130 OPS+ at one point.
If the Angels doctors think that injuries are going to plague this guy for his career, then absolutely, we should trade him and get what we can. No one wants a guy who’s constantly in and out of the lineup. But if they think he has the ability to stay healthy, I think we’re looking at one of the best young second basemen in the league with a shot at winning batting titles. You don’t give that up.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
I'm not saying
that we should trade Howie just for the sake of trading him but I’m saying that it’s foolish to consider him untouchable anymore. He has great upside and I would be happy to keep him but if the right deal comes along (whatever that may be) and it involves Kendrick, I think we should pull the trigger.
by Chzburger Jones on Oct 20, 2008 5:20 PM PDT reply actions
Only if the right deal is for a BAT
not a pitcher
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by halofan4life on Oct 20, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
trade
If he is included in a deal to get Peavy then trade him. Our infield is already jammed with talent that we can hope will stay healthier.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Oct 20, 2008 6:16 PM PDT reply actions
Tough Call
I am not so much worried about his past playoff performances as I am about his hamstring injuries, his inability to walk, not getting into enough hitter counts, and his constant flailing at breaking pitches. Even if he were healthy, there would be some cause for concern since his acceptable offensive numbers for a second basemen are somewhat nullified by his average defense. Then again maybe if he were healthy he would have the at bats to make adjustments to the breaking stuff and fulfill his promise as a future batting champ.
Considering that his trade value is lower then it has ever been, I say give him another chance unless another team absolutely wants him in a reasonable package for an impact, middle of the order power bat that won’t sacrifice the farm too much.
by stolenbases on Oct 20, 2008 6:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm curious
In the unfortunate but very possible event that we don’t re-sign Teixeira, which bats would or should the Halos consider? I’ve heard rumors that if the Angels don’t re-sign Tex and don’t retain GA, then they would pursue Dan Uggla and put him at third base and move Figgy to left field. Dan Uggla is a crappy defensive second baseman so I’m not sure how he would fair at third. Plus it would be another road block for Brandon Wood, unless he is part of the trade. I do like Uggla’s bat a lot though. Also, I guess we might be in the market for a first baseman if we don’t give the job to Kendry Morales. Which first baseman could be on the market? Prince Fielder? Mike Jacobs? Adam LaRoche?
by Chzburger Jones on Oct 20, 2008 6:52 PM PDT reply actions
Uggla = definition of streaky first half hitter!
Nice to have on a fantasy team…don’t bother if you are the Angels!
Whodathunk we would be rooting for a former Ranger come August, er September, er October...? Miss ya Kotch, but Tex is THE man!
To be honest I don't like any of those options.
Uggla is basically a DH. Same with Fielder. I rather have Vlad than those two. Jacobs has the power, but not the patience. Perhaps if you can get him in a good deal he’s worth it. I don’t feel LaRoche is much of an upgrade over Morales in terms of offense. He definitely isn’t an impact bat. I think Morales can eventually put up LaRoche (I believe he is pushing 30) numbers over a full season at a younger age.
Keep Howizle
Buy him a new Hamstring, Get new trainners to keep his new won healthy. Dude seriously, I went to the University of Souther California, Medical and Chiropractic in Whittier and they fixed my Ham String in a week. I was back on the field, sure it was still a little tender but after a week or two fater that Ive been running at full speed with no problem. We should take Howie there.
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
trade howie
he has knoblauch syndrome in the playoffs. doesn’t look like he’ll be a player when it counts. shift figgy over to second. get wood more reps to see if he can play everyday. go get holliday.
Yeah, I'm not sold on Holliday either
he’s a completely different hitter away from Colorado…just an “average” hitter on the road and not worth what’d it take to get him.
I was uncool before uncool was cool.
Holliday's proven that he can perform in the playoffs
and carry a team, which is more than anyone can say for our “big bats” this postseason who could only muster up two homeruns…both by Naps.
He's going to cost a ton
If you really want him, it’s just best to wait until he is a free agent. Even then you will be likely overpaying for him since his aggregate yearly totals look so great. Taking a closer look, it appears that Holliday can put up decent numbers in a pitchers park like the Big A. The key word is decent though. I see him hitting 20-25 homers away from Coors with a .280-.290 average. Nice numbers, but anyone would be fooling themselves thinking he could replace Tex or become the centerpiece of the Angels offense. Terry Smith seems to like Holliday though for what it’s worth.
Keep him, he'll be fine
Trade Aybar for some relief pitching and put Wood at short. Wood/Kendrick will be the Angels’ version of Trammell/Whitaker (and that’s a good thing). Izturis can be the utility guy.
I was uncool before uncool was cool.
He is much better than he performed in the playoffs.
But if you are talking about getting a superstar run producer(Holiday) or up and coming run producer(Fielder), if the deal is good i say trade him. Also, trading him for a Cy Young type pitcher with a reasonable contract like Peavy is a no-brainer, especially if we sign Tex. We could move Figgy to second, and Wood will take over at third. I like Wood at third cause he showed very little at short. But if we keep him that is great too cause he is a very good hitter with .300-.330 Avg. potential.
The fact he shrank in the spotlight of the playoffs is very concerning
Not a lot of players reverse their fortunes .
The Angels may have beat them 8 times in a row, but winning three before they do is all that matters.
I think we would all agree that at least he couldn't get any worse in that regard.
I found it interesting in the ALCS, that EllsPoopy got benched in favor of CocoPuffs. He was hitting less than .100 I think. Another young player in the spotlight.
And if I remember he was purty good in the WS last year.
So who knows really. If he got hot and confident? he could light it up.
What bothered me and my girl was that he looked so depressed. He must have lost all confidence. That is tough.
by Big Bad , "VLAD"! on Oct 21, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Ellsbury dominanted in the 2007 WS.
Further more he provided excellent defense. Howie did about as poorly as one could imagine defensively.
The Angels may have beat them 8 times in a row, but winning three before they do is all that matters.
no one knew how to throw to ellsbury
he was a rookie coming off the bench….
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Oct 21, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
True
Still no excuse for the defense
The Angels may have beat them 8 times in a row, but winning three before they do is all that matters.
They always say the mark of maturity is not bringing bad AB's into the field
they praised S-rod about that
(they being announcers and analysts and such)
by Big Bad , "VLAD"! on Oct 21, 2008 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
That's my point, he was so good, then this year he got benched
by Big Bad , "VLAD"! on Oct 21, 2008 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Well the Red Sox were offensively challenged and Coco is a good defender as well.
The Angels may have beat them 8 times in a row, but winning three before they do is all that matters.
Buster Olney is full of crap?
Wasn’t it he that said Howie would guaranteed to win a batting title someday? Clock is ticking…
on a 25 year old?
get real.
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on Oct 23, 2008 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
be patient
why do some of you fans want to give up on a young player like HK-47. he’s barely getting into his prime years. solid D, avg 300+, you need hitters that get on base for the mashers to drive them in.
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