Angels Win Boston Marathon in 12
The Angels left the bases loaded to end two innings. They left two on in three other innings. They gifted Boston 3 runs on a missed pop-fly. Teams like Kansas City and Seattle wipe the floor with you when you do that. But Team Lovable Nation was too busy tonguing its loving Fenway faithful right back to notice the gift of a game being handed to them by the Angels. Then it got late and they got served papers by a gutty bullpen and a catcher named Mike.
I thought we were dead when that pop-up dropped and this may be it, and if it is, it is slightly sweet, knowing that Chowd nation will all be late for work, or find out about the Angels win at work and have to rearrange their useless northeastern ice and sleet lives to see the game that will start late so that TBS can have ratings dollars from the well-tanned and rested west coast fans.
It would be nice to win tonight, it was nice to win last night, in the cold, wet Boston morning. Our faith has been restored, but even with their backs against the wall, John Lackey is the man you want to have on the mound and the pressure is where you want right where it is: on Team Lovable Nation. You know, the team that swaggered with a 3-run pop-up; the team that couldn’t wipe its a s s with the bases loaded against Francisco Rodriguez; the team that bowed and said “yes, master” to Jered Weaver in his first-ever relief appearance; the team that held Paul Byrd back in the pen.
We are the loose team now – the guys know that, win or lose, they are taking a plane ride back to the west coast, the sunny paradise of the USA. But for the Fenway Franks, Monday’s pressure cooker demands a respite from them having to visit Paradise Lost.
Most recent two Angels pitchers to win a postseason game:
Paul Byrd (10-11-05), Jered Weaver (10-05-08)
On Sunday night, actually on Monday morning, Terry Francona declined to call in Paul Byrd to the game. With Weaver the pitcher of record and Byrd watching from the bullpen, the franchise torch was passed.
Most recent two Angels to homer in a postseason game:
Orlando Cabrera (10-14-05), Mike Napoli, 2 (10-05-08)
Cabrera went 0-4 while his Chi-Sox team stayed alive in the other ALDS
Most recent two Angels pitchers to beat Boston in the postseason
Doug Corbett (born November 4, 1952) and Jered Weaver (born October 4, 1982)
SNAPPED: Boston’s 9 game postseason win streak
SNAPPED: Angels 9 game postseason losing streak
SNAPPED: Boston’s 11 game postseason winning streak vs. the Angels
Random Thoughts...
Mike Scioscia understands the importance of pitching in assembling a team. His style is founded in reliable pitching for all situations in all innings. When the pitching holds up, he knows a lineup with healthy major leaguers that have a variety of skills will allow him to respond to each game situation accordingly. The game tonight made me think that CC Sabathia is more likely to be wearing an Angels uniform come January than Mark Teixeira.
Howie is seeing the ball better, his major league postseason rehab assignment looking like it is bearing fruit. Aybar finally gets a hit and it is the historical continuation of Bobby Grich driving in Jerry Narron for the 11th inning Saturday night win in Anaheim a week shy of 22 years ago.
One of the problems with always comparing players at the plate to their defensive counterparts is that it doesn't seem a stretch to note that Mike Napoli’s righty power batting with its all-or-nothing results flowing in hot-cold streaks reminds me so much of Troy Glaus at times. It seems odd that more people do not make this connection. It isn't THAT much of a stretch, is it?
What happened to major league baseball’s idea to make the games shorter by timing the starting pitchers and demanding a throw to the plate at regular intervals? Or insisting that batters remain in the batter’s box? Josh Beckett took his sweet time in between every pitch and just about every Red Sox batter did a ritualistic walk outside the chalk for a psych-up session after each pitch they saw. The game lasted 5 hours and 19 minutes because the Boston starter was given ample time to baby his owie and the Boston batters were allowed to clear their minds and become one with the universe of concentration.
...AND FINALLY...
The Angels won their 51st road game early Monday morning. If they can win their 52nd tonight, anything can happen.
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Tomorrows Game is HUGE
I still think Scioscia should start Morales in RF 1-3 in the Post Season over Rivera/HGH/Willits 0-10 4K’s 3BB(Rivera) 1R(Rivera).
Who ever is in RF I will still be cheering on OUR ANGELS!!!!!!!!!
Go Get Them Sox!!!!
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by acuda27 on Oct 6, 2008 2:06 AM PDT 0 recs
RF
Scioscia’s probably gonna stick with Rivera. Both HGH and Rivera had good stats vs. Lester and he decided to play HGH in Game 1 (which of course was the wrong choice). Give Juan a chance against a lefty and see what he can do.
i feel oddly good about tomorrow.
by kle18 on
Oct 6, 2008 2:12 AM PDT
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Agree, I totally forgot that Lester was the LHP
Rivera should get the Start…..BUT Morales should have started Today and Yesterday.
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by acuda27 on
Oct 6, 2008 2:14 AM PDT
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Re: Sabathia over Teixeria
It’s weird… but I think the opposite.
Tex has stood out and has proven himself that he can maintain composure and get the big hits in these big games. Without him in the lineup… I really don’t know if we could have even been CLOSE to winning the first two games.
I think our pitching is FINE. I don’t know if Santana will ever show he can pitch in the clutch… but last night… our bullpen and especially Jered Weaver showed A LOT of heart. The way I look at the rotation the last two years…it appears that the best three pitchers throughout the year get to pitch in the big games at the end. Who would have thought that Santana and Saunders would be our game 2 and 3 pitchers (heck… they were nearly on their way to Florida for M. Cabrera!). Next year, with Escobar back, Garland likely gone….we have Lackey, Santana, Saunders, Escobar, and Weaver. I feel comfortable with rotation. And while C.C. is a beast, I think I’d rather have Tex back to provide some run support (although, I’m sure Reagans will find someone else to further bolster the rotation).
If anything, the one thing I see this postseason is that Figgins, Kendrick, and Aybar very similar hitters (no power… above avg. to excellent speed… decent average). So I’m thinking… maybe we can get something by trading Aybar… inserting Wood… and maybe pick up a nice OF.
by kle18 on Oct 6, 2008 2:10 AM PDT 0 recs
I Agree with REV
The first two games We DID NOT WIN………
Today he did not Score or Drive in any Runs and we WON. So I think Rev is on to something.
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by acuda27 on
Oct 6, 2008 2:13 AM PDT
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Santana
has already proven he can pitch in the clutch.. in the 2005 ALDS vs. the Yankees, relieving Colon.
by Chris Knapp's Sac on
Oct 6, 2008 11:04 AM PDT
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We are asking WAY too much from our pitchers
the focus for the rest of this post-season and for the off season should be on creating an offense that is confident, aggressive and beats the heck out of the opponent’s pitching. We are doing the bare minimum against B, maybe B+, pitching.
I feel like John Savage in the Deer Hunter.
Captain, there are doubt's...
by Match Day 5 on Oct 6, 2008 6:57 AM PDT 0 recs
Maybe we really pull off a deal
Great piece Rev and definately a lot to consider here. Personally, I would pay Tex anything he wants (easy to spend OPM isn’t it?) to stay because even with the best pitching rotation in baseball history, you still need to score runs to win. I just love his approach at the plate and he seems to have a great temperment…not to mention a great glove.
I think I would rather lose Frankie, keep Tex, and trade for CC. Like a previous poster mentioned, I wouldn’t mind trading Aybar and inserting Wood because you know at some point he is going to find his major league swing: there were signs of him coming aroung late in the regular season. I like his chances.
In fact, I think the Angel’s can be BETTER next year than they are right now….maybe 117 wins in 09???
Tonight we win by at least 4 with our stud on the mound. I think we broke their backs last night and it was a wonderful sight to see.
Go Halo’s!!
by HaloMachismo on Oct 6, 2008 7:38 AM PDT 0 recs
One note.
CC is a free agent, so we could not “trade” for him…he could be signed as a free agent.
by sothball on
Oct 6, 2008 8:16 AM PDT
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you see what happens
When I start writing before having my morning coffee….
Of course I meant “sign” him. Thanks for catching my blunder.
by HaloMachismo on
Oct 6, 2008 9:49 AM PDT
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I think signing Sabathia
instead of Tex is a bad move. We have a number one pitcher in Lackey. We have a number two pitcher (with number one stuff) in Santana. We have two above average pitchers in Weaver and Saunders.
To be perfectly honest, I would much rather pitch Dustin Moseley every five days (if it Escobar can’t go) and have Tex in the lineup everyday rather than pitching Sabathia every 5 days and seeing Vlad try to carry the team again.
I think Tex and Vlad’s play down the stretch and in the postseason has opened Reagins’s eyes to the wonders that occur when you have more than one superstar hitting in the middle of the order. Let Garland and K-Rod go and pay Tex the $20 million a year they were making.
I’m not saying the Angels WILL do this, but that’s what I’d like to see them do.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on Oct 6, 2008 8:09 AM PDT 0 recs
on three days rest, but Milwaukee was throwing his arm off for the last two months of the season
Napoli-an Dynamite
Beat the Red Sux, stop blaming GMJ
by hk47 on
Oct 6, 2008 10:15 AM PDT
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I'm not saying CC is bad
He may be the best pitcher in MLB right now. But two things:
1. We struggle more with hitting than pitching, and our pitching should be fine next year as it is (it may even improve)
2. Pitchers are notorious for making you regret those long-term deals (see Zito, Barry and Hampton, Mike)
I love Teixeira. Love him. Give the man whatever he wants.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on
Oct 6, 2008 10:55 AM PDT
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I love him too
if he comes back next year I’m getting his jersey.
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
by teopeht on
Oct 6, 2008 2:29 PM PDT
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I really miss the Boy King
He was money in those “2 outs, RISP” situations.
Josh Beckett was quoted in the Times as saying that Izzy being out was part of our problems. I tend to agree with him, Chowd though he may be.
Angels fan since '67
by red floyd on Oct 6, 2008 8:34 AM PDT 0 recs
Tex should be signed no doubt
and give him Hatcher’s salary so he can be our hitting instructor too!
by SCHalo on Oct 6, 2008 8:41 AM PDT 0 recs
How about ditching Hatcher and signing
Nathan Haynes as the hitting coach?
Angels fan since '67
by red floyd on
Oct 6, 2008 9:12 AM PDT
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I've thought the same thing too about the Napoli/Glaus comparison.
The high OBP despite the lowish BA with very good power. All summer I thought he should DH if he wasn’t going to catch, but Sosh stubbornly stuck with GMJ.
by snowhor on Oct 6, 2008 9:10 AM PDT 0 recs
And I think he earned the starting role after his 2007 performance. I hope his 2008 performance allows the management to recognize this.
by snowhor on
Oct 6, 2008 9:11 AM PDT
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Whatever defensive deficiencies he has
They are more than made up by his bat. Although he’s really only keeping the spot warm for two years until Conger is ready. At that point, I’m guessing we’ll see him as a DH (assuming Teix is still our 1B!).
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on
Oct 6, 2008 9:18 AM PDT
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Remember letting Glaus go for Dallas McPherson
Maybe a season in the majors two years from now will let us better judge jumping off the Conger cliff alone.
by Rev Halofan on
Oct 6, 2008 10:49 AM PDT
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I agree
I’m not saying to ditch Napoli in two years – heck, if he can hit like this over a full season, those numbers would play at any spot on the field, so it would definitely be prudent to keep him around while Conger’s getting his feet wet..
Count me among those who were not all that enthused about letting Glaus go. The guy can still hit (when he’s on the field, which just so happens to be more than D-Mac).
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on
Oct 6, 2008 10:58 AM PDT
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I thought Zu's review of our farm system
had Hank giving a mediocre performance to the contrary of everyone expectation of a wunderkind.
I’m rooting for him, I liked the interview he gave during one of the games.
Driven into right-center field, Erstad says he has it...the Angels, world champions!
by teopeht on
Oct 6, 2008 2:26 PM PDT
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I loved when...
Butcher turned to the camera and showed it his stopwatch while Papelbon was on the mound. Reading his lips I think he said something like, “look 28 seconds, what a joke.”
Guy has a 97 MPH fastball that he throws 90% of the time, and we have to wait half a minute for him to get his shit together for one pitch?
by Wytelitning on Oct 6, 2008 9:41 AM PDT 0 recs
Amen
Seemed to me that all of the Chowds pitchers were doing that. It was freakin agony to wait, wait, wait, wait….and they are doing the same thing at the plate. How many freakin times to you have to undo your batting gloves…then tighten them back down, then up, then down….for christsakes, get in the box and hit!
by HaloMachismo on
Oct 6, 2008 9:53 AM PDT
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I was waiting for the automatic ball to be called...one call in a situation like that and it wouldn't happen again
Rev’s right, the reason the game was so long is because every Boston pitcher is taking five minutes to throw every pitch. It’s frickin’ agonizing. Almost unwatchable
Napoli-an Dynamite
Beat the Red Sux, stop blaming GMJ
by hk47 on
Oct 6, 2008 10:17 AM PDT
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Doesn't get called with runners on base, IIRC
Angels fan since '67
by red floyd on
Oct 6, 2008 10:44 AM PDT
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I don't think any of those umpires have the balls to do that in Fenway...
but I would have liked to see Butcher or Soth continue to yell at the ump about it until they could no longer be ignored. If anything it would get in Papelbon’s head.
by Wytelitning on
Oct 6, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
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Even our astute announcers said something about it
In between showing clips of the dropped pop up. That’s how noticeable it was. Beckett was slowing things down a lot too.
They were wondering what Butcher was upset about over at baseballthinkfactory.org, but I don’t have a commenting account over there. I wouldn’t be surprised if Scioscia says something to the umpires before the game tonight.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on
Oct 6, 2008 11:01 AM PDT
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What I was waiting for in Game 1 and Game 2
Was for Youkissmyass to be called out (or whatever the rule is) for being out of the batter’s box.
In the first inning of Game 1, before the chalk got wiped out, his back foot was clearly outside the box.
Angels fan since '67
by red floyd on
Oct 6, 2008 2:18 PM PDT
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Can someone please
invent a new device that allows the radio broadcast on 830 AM to sync with my direct tv broadcast so that I can turn down Caray and the rest of the TBS douchebags and listen to our guys. Currently, the radio is about 20 seconds ahead of the direct tv broadcast….which can really get interesting after a few beers……
by HaloMachismo on Oct 6, 2008 1:21 PM PDT 0 recs
My thoughts - For what they're worth
People like to say that starting pitching wins championships, but I disagree -
IMO – Offense and relief pitching win championships. Ask the Atlanta Braves what the best rotation in the league got them (5 starters winning 15 games each) – An N.L. title and another beat-down by tan A.L. with much better hitting.
IMO – The Angels have played their worst defensive baseball of the season in the past 3 games, but STILL were in position to win each game. What does that show? That they need that clutch hit from someone not named Teixeira, Guerrero or Hunter – And they got it last night. The key to winning Games 4 and 5? Getting anyone PLUS the aforementioned three Halo-migos to do it again.
IMO – The “curse” isn’t in the collective heads of the Angels – but they have fallen into three categories:
Trying too hard to succeed Hunter, Frankie, Lackey, Santana, Figgins (game 1), GA (go with it here) and Rivera;
Trying too hard not to fail Aybar – until that lat at bat, Kendrick and GMJ; and
Doing what they’ve always done Vlad, Tex, Napoli, Weaver, Shields, Arredondo
If the guys who are trying too hard to succeed can just do what they’ve always done, it’ll make up for the people trying not to fail – commonly known as chokers, but I won’t use that term here …
IMO – Last night exposed a lot of Boston weaknesses: Lack of killer instinct w/out Manny; lack of depth in the pen besides Papelbon and an really huge streak of luck (Hunter’s ball caroming straight to Bay; the 3-run single) – which is bad because luck runs out eventually – and I say it did last night when the clock struck midnight
IMO – The better team will be shown tonight – no matter who wins, the difference will be obvious. I believe that the better team is the Angels. I hope they show it.
"And the Anaheim Angels are the Champions of Baseball!"
by Grichfan on Oct 6, 2008 3:51 PM PDT 1 recs











