Angels 2008 Post Season Recap
Starting Howie Kendrick in the playoffs after he came back from injury so late in the season was, in hindsight, a mistake. THE mistake. He disappeared, was overmatched and the palpable failure magnified itself into grand defensive lapses that cost us almost dearly in game three and dearly in game four. To a lesser extent, Erick Aybar brought little to the team
We will never know what would have happened if we had started Sean Rodriguez and Brandon Wood in the playoffs. Maybe we would have pined for Aybar and Kendrick, but perhaps the warmed-up AAA-rookie duo would have done more than those two.
There are other what-ifs, but were the Angels to have had the simplest offensive production from EITHER of those two spots, the team would at least be looking at a deciding game five.
Barring that, the only other missing factor was the spark plug factor on which Scioscia offenses depend so heavily. So Figgins not getting on base in 3 out of 4 games was a kick to the balls of any chance the Angels had. Also note that the great game Figgins had with the glove was also the game where his bat showed up.
So it wasn’t Frankie, it wasn’t Reggie, it wasn’t Shields. It was Howie, the decision to play a rehabbing Howie over a number of options, an absent Figgy, a weak Aybar.
On August 13, Howie Kendrick pulled up lame on a hit with a bad hammy and a few innings later, Maicer Izturis dislocated his thumb. One player came back and was ineffective and one player’s platoon partner couldn’t handle the full-time role. Perhaps the fate of the season was decided then and there.
To whine a bit, a lot of calls went Boston’s way, their pitchers and batters were free to saunter about the mound and box and then blame west coast viewing audiences for 5 hour games, followed by quickened Rapuano strike zones making for the 6th inning starting 90 minutes after the first pitch. I thought for a minute about a headline that read: “Tim Welke = Tim Donaghy?” but no whining. I could bitch about the absurdly pro-Boston telecast, but Red Sox Nation is about to get served a plate of shit to eat when the whole nation roots for the underdog Tampa Rays and the Boston Beer Belly Fans wonder where all the lovable adoration of America went. Hint: We loved your dirty water when it quenched the underdog but it has acquired an entitlement stench beyond Steinbrenner proportions.
Everyone showed up except our middle infielders, the calls went Bitchston’s way, the media was all Franconastroka and we were STILL in every game against the aging World Champions. When Billy Beane says the playoffs are a crapshoot he is lauded as a statistical genius and Oakland fans bend over for biannual rebuilding projects. When Angel fans hear that the playoffs are a crapshoot they still recall the snake eyes roll in 2002 that paid off and everything pales. It is the price of success.
Paying that price is John Lackey, team leader, Angel icon and alone without run support in two games that were eminently winnable. As always, no matter how bright the future looks, you have to wonder how many more postseason chances even the best of them will get.
We'll have to wait until next year to find out.
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My internet went out
I had to race to a sports bar and then beg a guy to post a quick thanks for the season from his i-phone when the game was over just so everyone could have somewhere to commiserate. CRAZY frickin’ day.
by Rev Halofan on Oct 7, 2008 1:21 AM PDT 0 recs
entire la area is going through shitty internet right now
im assuming you have time warner, was just on phone with them. apparently theyve been having probs all night. doesnt explain the other times were its just shitty…but i guess thats what you get when twc buys up all the companies in your area….shitty service with no other options
by linkbruin on
Oct 7, 2008 1:43 AM PDT
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maybe tbs tried to block it!
"Halos Heaven All Time Saves Record Holder Genius Prognasticator."
by vlad IS my man on
Oct 7, 2008 7:49 AM PDT
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agreed
howie kendrick looked overmatched out there.
Matt Kemp for president.
Adrian Wilson for vice.
by wongy on Oct 7, 2008 1:49 AM PDT 0 recs
I don't think Kendrick was a mistake
The problem was Izzy was out. So the choice was do you bring Howie in when he is not ready or a AAA guy.
If Izzy is not hurt, he bats second, Andy in RBI position, and we win the first round. No doubt in my mind.
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Oct 7, 2008 1:49 AM PDT 0 recs
Curious?
If Howie wasn’t a mistake, then you are saying a AAA’er (Rodriguez or Wood) would have done worse??
Look at Howies numbers/stats and tell me how much worse any of our rookies could have realistically played??
Howie had a Horrific Series !!!
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on
Oct 7, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
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If I may jump in
I don’t think Kendrick was a mistake either when you factor in WHEN the decision was made. Sure, in hindsight I don’t think any of the other options would have performed worse, however the decision wasn’t made in hindsight.
by ViolaHalo on
Oct 7, 2008 10:34 AM PDT
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i really would have rather had the just played for a month AAA duo
More playing time equals better results, and howie was bad earlier in the year when he returned from injury. I know hindsight is always 20/20, but i would have really taken the AAA guys here and left the other ones for mayyyyybe pinch hitting.
by linkbruin on Oct 7, 2008 1:52 AM PDT 0 recs
What About RF?
You said that the Middle IF failed to show up……Ummmm RF did NOT show up either.
RF – Rivera (1-8) and Matthew (0-5) Combined 1-13 That is a CRAP SHOOT!!!!!!!
Another What If……….
What If Scioscia listened to the Fans and what laangels.com pointed towards…..
Started Morales in RF (2-4, 2B)?
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by acuda27 on Oct 7, 2008 1:59 AM PDT 0 recs
Not to Mention the "D" in RF
Matthews over ran a Ball
Willits Diving attempt to Catch the Ball that could have cost us the game just on that play
Willits Rout to the Ball that Ended our Playoff Run
Those bad plays were right up there with HK47
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by acuda27 on
Oct 7, 2008 2:10 AM PDT
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The catch
I will never fault someone for making that type of effort, especially when he plays in the same outfield as Garrett Anderson. It is just ironic that playing in the “no doubles” defensive positioning wound up causing Bay to get a double. I also think that Willits made a really good throw on the play to the plate but it was obviously just a little late because Bay got such a good jump with two outs. Napoli almost even blocked the plate off!
by turs12 on
Oct 7, 2008 2:21 AM PDT
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I agree....
You gotta put some blame on Frankie and Shields too… though I guess not as much… The truth is that there were a lot of problems…not just one…
Show 'em your a panther... Show 'em what you can do....
by stuck in Romania on
Oct 7, 2008 3:00 AM PDT
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Damn, Bobby Grich set this whole sh*t off.
Tumble weeds and twisted tales
These the bad lands where the ANGLS fail
"i got 5ive on it"
by Funke5ive on Oct 7, 2008 2:26 AM PDT 0 recs
I still expect more from our 3-4-5
Even though they were certainly putting the bat on the ball more than the anemic bottom half of the order, we needed a little more. A timely HR from any of them would have won (or at least tied) any of the three games we lost.
I can’t believe that after lurking for two years this is my first actual post here. Oh well.
by Ivan X on Oct 7, 2008 4:40 AM PDT 0 recs
wow, high expectations...considering Tex, Vlad and Hunter were amazing in this series!
welcome to the site Ivan, but the 3-4-5 guys can’t do much more…
Napoli-an Dynamite
Beat the Red Sux, stop blaming GMJ
by hk47 on
Oct 7, 2008 7:40 AM PDT
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B-Ref is out, but
the 3-4-5 batters had between them exactly one extra-base hit. One! Do much more? Oh, hells yeah.
Witty .sig goes here.
by scareduck on
Oct 7, 2008 8:21 AM PDT
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3-4-5 hit .438 for the series
Those hitters walked 9 times and thats because the Red Sox decided that they would let HK and GMJ and JR beat them before ever allowing those 3.
Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee
by Angel Aviator on
Oct 7, 2008 9:41 AM PDT
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We don't pay those guys to hit singles.
If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.
by TheTypingFiend on
Oct 7, 2008 12:06 PM PDT
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Hard to drive a ball when they are pitching around you most of the time
When has Vlad ever walked that much in a series? Would you allow those guys to beat you or would you attack the likes of HK, Aybar, GMJ, JR? Someone has to score the runs and those listed were not the ones.1 run between the 4 of them in 54 PA. Solo jacks aren’t going to win the games. Extra base hits they still need those 4 to get a hit. 5-48 for a HK, Aybar, GMJ, JR = .104 AVG
Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee
by Angel Aviator on
Oct 7, 2008 1:54 PM PDT
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I, for one...
am glad Sean Rodriguez didn’t make an appearance. That would have been an automatic strikeout. Maybe Wood could have helped. But, thinking Rodriguez would have made a difference is a bit of a stretch.
Now let’s lock up Tex for the next few years. ;)
by 10 27 02 on Oct 7, 2008 5:47 AM PDT 0 recs
You can imagine that Sean Rodriguez woulda at least fielded the ball.
HK crapped the bed. I still like HK and I expect him to be an all-star but not this year.
If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.
by melvintoast on Oct 7, 2008 6:18 AM PDT 0 recs
Post-series handshake.
I’d like to congratulate the Angels on a terrific season. 100 wins is quite an accomplishment.
The Angels didn’t play up to their ability during the series, but the games still had many exciting moments. In the end, I think the Halos simply made too many gaffes.
I thought the series was going back to Anaheim after Willits made it to 3B with only 1 out last night. Although it was exciting, there was absolutely no reason for Scioscia to call a suicide squeeze. A medium range fly brings home that run and the Red Sox would be behind the 8-ball. If Scioscia didn’t think Aybar could put the ball into the outfield, pinch hit.
The strike zone was erratic last night, but I thought it was equally so. Jon Lester got a gift with that called K to Teixeira to end a half inning, but I didn’t think that the umpiring was a game-changer.
My hat’s off to Mark Teixeira. The man was a stone-faced killer the entire series. Big Tex walked if he didn’t see his pitch, and he made several run-robbing plays defensively at 1B. He should be your #1 priority this off-season. I think that Arredondo can close for you. Don’t spend big bucks on K-Rod.
Torii Hunter and Chone Figgins also played a fine series, though Chone didn’t show up until game 2.
It’s amazing how Jekyll-and-Hyde your line-up is with a lead-off man on base. It’s seems like a mental thing as much as actually having a base-runner.
You need a new team leader if John Lackey is that guy now. His defense let him down, but he shouldn’t show that frustration on the mound. I particularly thought that with Kendrick’s bobble last game. There was no way Ellsbury would be doubled-off at 1B. One team, one goal. Act like a leader and pick your defense back up.
My series MVP votes are split three ways: Jon Lester, Jason Bay, and Howie Kendrick. I’m not sure who helped the Sox the most.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on Oct 7, 2008 7:08 AM PDT 0 recs
I believe that strike zone cost us more than you allow...
Varitek was struck out 2 or 3 pitches prior to the hit/run single. Ball was clearly a strike on TBS’s Hot Corner (far more than the phantom K3 call on Tex). The subsequent grounder to Howie would have been the 3rd out and the score would have remained 0-0. The ump only had balls enough to call Tex out on strikes on a pitch half a foot outside.
Baseball must adapt to the times and adopt instant replay in broader terms. The tag play on Willits was a blown call as the player must be able to remove the ball from his glove. Did Reggie deserve to be out…certainly. Was he…?
If they are finally going to show us the computer generated strike zone on every pitch as TBS did on their Hot Corner, then we are finally that much closer to having a computer call balls/strikes. This would be a welcome change and one that will soon be necessitated. Game 3 ump was extraordinarily good on balls and strikes. Game 4, not so much!
Whodathunk we would be rooting for a former Ranger come August, er September, er October...? Miss ya Kotch, but Tex is THE man!
by K3YEROUT on
Oct 7, 2008 8:32 AM PDT
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What a year...
I do not know about the rest of you, but this year was fun and exciting. Granted, we lost in the playoff and looked terrible again but there were a lot of bright spots. I for one am disappointed and sad we are eliminated but not all hope is lost. There is always next year and that is the beauty. We all get to kick back for a year and ponder what went wrong and what could have been, but it doesn’t change anything. So I will be sitting every day signing onto HH in anticipation of the next season to watch our favorite team kick some more ass and get a little closer to that prestigious peak, the world series. Thank you all for a great year and hey, we’ll be back!
"Throw some CHED!"
by angelskid2210 on Oct 7, 2008 7:34 AM PDT 0 recs
Hard on Figgy, Reverend
Guy went 7-21 and played great defense. To say he was “absent” is a bit of an overstatement.
Now Kendrick was terrible.
And how about Tex and Vlad and Hunter, Those guys were all great. So much for the Vlad doesn’t do anything in the postseason talk. Can we do away with that now?
Napoli-an Dynamite
Beat the Red Sux, stop blaming GMJ
by hk47 on Oct 7, 2008 7:43 AM PDT 0 recs
With all do respect I love Vlad, but he still did nothing that really helped in the end. He had no RBI’s, no HR’s, a double and the rest were singles. Same with Tex, that in the end killed us just as much as Howie did. But hey we got closer than the past two Red Sox series, so next year watch out
"Throw some CHED!"
by angelskid2210 on
Oct 7, 2008 7:48 AM PDT
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Vlad and Tex killed us as much as Howie? really?
umm…no, try again.
Re-sign Tex!
by hk47 on
Oct 7, 2008 10:23 AM PDT
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I don't agree on HK
He’s the starting 2nd baseman, he plays. Period. How many at-bat’s did JD Drew have before the ALDS since mid-August? Four. I think HK was completely overmatched by the post-season and put too much pressure on himself, getting him out of his game. He couldn’t relax out there and it showed. He clearly was not having any fun.
And Aybar? You’ve got to get the squeeze down.
We’ve become the AL version of the Atlanta Braves and Casey Kotchman’s stiking his finger in Tony Reagins’ eye.
by SactoFan on Oct 7, 2008 8:01 AM PDT 0 recs
That was the most painful loss...
I can ever remember in all my years as a fan.
At least in 2007 when we got swept, at least I could walk away saying “man Boston really kicked the crap out of us” Beat by a much better team. End of story.
This year however, we were very very close. I could taste it. All I ever really wanted to do was get passed Boston. Everything else was gravy.
And to lose all that on a game-winning hit at Fenway was just too much.
We are cursed.
Let no joyful voice be heard! Let no man look up at the sky with hope! And let this day be cursed by we who ready to wake... the K-Rod!
by Scuff on Oct 7, 2008 8:14 AM PDT 0 recs
2005
Whodathunk we would be rooting for a former Ranger come August, er September, er October...? Miss ya Kotch, but Tex is THE man!
by K3YEROUT on
Oct 7, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
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I tend to forgive player performance quickly
(unless you make 50 mil) . Players play like crap and make mistakes and that’s just baseball. Vlad, Howie, Shields, Frankie, Aybar, Torii,… all made mistakes, but honestly, they play hard and to win and come through all the time. So I get over it fast.
But I’m really having trouble justifying the season ending on Scoicia’s ego gambit.
by The Clyde on Oct 7, 2008 8:23 AM PDT 0 recs
I think this series loss was a culmination of things:
1. Howie was clearly overmatched.
2. Our defense was pitiful, more or less across the board.
3. Sure Teixeira had a lot of hits, but how many were for extra bases? (Not playing the blame game, just saying that he didn’t get the extra base hits that he usually does.)
4. Vlad’s baserunning mistake.
5. The botched squeeze. (Again, not playing the blame game. On 2-0 Scioscia expected something over the plate, but instead it was an almost impossible pitch to bunt.)
6. Figgins not getting on base for three games.
7. Vlad’s continued lack of extra base hits in the playoffs.
8. Umpiring.
9. Izzy being injured.
10. The complete inability to get a real clutch hit (other than Torii’s last night).
11. GA’s inability to get a hit after his first two at-bats of the series (okay, maybe he had one).
12. Don’t even get me started on K-Rod.
Positives to take away:
1. Torii had a great postseason showing.
2. Naps was solid and had a stellar performance in game 3.
3. Teixeira, while he couln’t get “the big hit” was on base almost the entire series.
4. Vlad, for the most part, came out of his postseason slump.
5. Lackey looked great. Poor guy.
6. Saunders looked great.
7. Shields looked good, except for a bloop and a seeing-eye single last night.
8. Weaver looked great.
Red Sox, we're comin!
by NoDakHalo on Oct 7, 2008 8:26 AM PDT 0 recs
Response to selected points
1. Howie was clearly overmatched.
Beyond obvious. I want to see him have a whole season where he stays healthy and hits well. He looked awful.
2. Our defense was pitiful, more or less across the board.
E-bar was the non-Howie culprit, but so was Gary Matthews, Jr., whose failure to catch a routine line drive to right in Game 1 also cost the team. Let us also not forget Torii Hunter.
3. Sure Teixeira had a lot of hits, but how many were for extra bases?
As mentioned upthread, the sum total of the Angels’ extra base hits from their 3-4-5 hitters was Vlad’s Game 3 double. In fact, the entirety of the Angels’ offense extra-base hits are
- Figgins: Game 2 triple, Game 3 double
- Vlad: Game 3 double
- Napoli: Two homers in Game 3
- Kendry Morales: Game 4 double
And that was it. That is, the Angels were hitting as a team at something like a .390-ish slugging average (if that) in the postseason. That will NOT get it done.
The pitching staff in general has nothing to be ashamed of. Unlike postseasons past, the Angels didn’t get hammered out of the playoffs; they got out-hit. Once again, I blame not just figurehead Mickey Hatcher but the entire Angels offensive strategy, which is too reliant on stringing together lots of singles. This is a major-market team, and the “poor us” excuse that the team doesn’t have much power and/or on-base percentage is a crock that needs to be dispensed with immediately.
Witty .sig goes here.
by scareduck on
Oct 7, 2008 8:41 AM PDT
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Duckie...
HGH’s blunder actually did not cost us a run…it just reinforced the tone that we were setting of lousy D!
Whodathunk we would be rooting for a former Ranger come August, er September, er October...? Miss ya Kotch, but Tex is THE man!
by K3YEROUT on
Oct 7, 2008 9:43 AM PDT
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It DID cost us Lackey having to come out of the game though.
And remember, although i felt Shields looked very, very strong at times, he did pour gasoline on the fire in the 9th inning of game 1, turning a 2-1 game into a 4-1 game.
by goodvibe61 on
Oct 7, 2008 10:17 AM PDT
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You are correct, sir
I misremembered it.
Witty .sig goes here.
by scareduck on
Oct 7, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
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what about Frankie's record? That's gotta be worth at least a mention!?!?!
by ladybug on
Oct 7, 2008 10:13 AM PDT
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How about Frankie's other record?
What other reliever can you name that threw 2 gopher balls in back to back game 2’s of the ALDS, failing to win a big game for your team when it’s needed most?
Congratulations KRod!!
by goodvibe61 on
Oct 7, 2008 10:18 AM PDT
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Yesterday, quite frankly, was shitty
Not only did the angels get eliminated by Boston, again, but I watched two friends from work get laid off…one of which is a lifelong Angel fan. His family has worked for the Angels since the 70s (off and on) and the last thing he said when he left my office was “Go Angels”.
So today, I have no one to vent to about that loss and no one to discuss the ’09 season. I am seriously bumming right now and reading several posts from the game thread and randomly throughout this site bums me out even more. I see a lot of blame being placed, and quite frankly rightfully so, but the season is over and our team lost. Boston didnt win anything, we handed it to them time and time again. Regardless of who made what error or who hung which slider, its over….dammit. There are several things I wish could have gone differently, but we lost.
I have said it before and I’ll say it again…..I would rather miss the playoffs entirely than suffer another gut-wrenching series loss to Bahston. But putting things in perspective, I still have a job and a roof over my family’s head….for now.
It’s been a pleasure being a part of this community all season and the well-educated opinions. Lookin forward to the offseason chatter.
I'm your huckleberry
by autry's cowboys on Oct 7, 2008 8:48 AM PDT 1 recs
Wow, you read my mind
I was thinking the same things. Why go to the playoffs at all, just to lose to Boston? And the Angels gift wrapped this series for them.
But yes, I still have a job. I still have a loving wife and friends and family. SO, though it seems like my life is over, it’s not. As that gut-wrenching cliche goes, there’s always next year.
Kudos on your post.
I, chairmanofthebar, still believe.
See you next season!
The time is out of joint; oh cursed spite, that ever I was born to set it right.
by chairmanofthebar on
Oct 7, 2008 8:54 AM PDT
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Tex and Umps
Bottom line was yes Texeira did get base hits and walks that not why we traded our future gold glove 1st baseman we traded for big hits in the post season that big bat we’ve been missing in post season but still he did a great job I’d like to see him back next year. The umps were clearly against us the entire series and the last call against willits the the head umpire jagoff said in a statement that he had possession of the ball when he tagged him all i have to say about that is next time there is a play at the plate and someone is tagged out but knocks ball loose they had better be out because the catcher had possession of the ball when the tag was made. I almost believe what a co-worker told me before the series started he said your angels will be eliminated whether they like it or not because major league baseball is going to try for a repeat of the NBA championship Boston vs. LA and then when they get they’ll go against LA just to prove Boston’s (the east coast) superiority over the west coast and doing it against the 100 win angels in the process is just icing on the cake my co-worker by the way is a dodgers fan who wanted a freeway world series as well and he could even see it before it started. THIS SUCKS!!!
"Boy, did he drop a huge deuce in the stands!" (About a two-run homer)
Rex Hudler
by devildogamp on Oct 7, 2008 9:10 AM PDT 0 recs
To blame it on the Umps is weak
There were a lot of gaffes that the Angels made in addition to un-clutch hitting. The Angels certainly made the series easier for Boston, whose meat-of-the-order hitters didn’t contribute much.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on
Oct 7, 2008 10:00 AM PDT
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Agreed, it is weak
I thought generally the series was well-umpired. The blame goes to the players like Howie who didn’t get it done. In my mind, he accrued three BOTGs in this series. He had 0 all year.
Above all else, the two biggest factors for us losing were:
1. You want to blame something, blame our damn defense, which was pathetic all series (with the exception of Tex). That was the difference between the two teams. Boston didn’t make any errors- Youk, Kotsay and their OF’ers all played very well.
2. The Angels left a ton of men on base in scoring position. We had our chances and didn’t come through.
Give credit to Lowrie for getting a big hit, to Lester for pitching two gems and to Ellsbury and Bay, who both had a great series.
Don’t blame the umpiring when the Angels played lousy defense and couldn’t get a clutch hit. It makes us as Angels fans look whiny and classless.
Re-sign Tex!
by hk47 on
Oct 7, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
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I don't think it was well-umped
The strike zones were all over the place. But it’s hard to say one team or the other got the advantage. And the calls on the basepaths (other than Crisp at second base) were generally correct. So maybe mediocrely-umped.
But your other points are right on. You can only get so many singles in a row (in our case: 2). Their defense was much better than ours. Lester was a stud.
We got outplayed, but not by much. I can’t objectively say the Angels were a better team, but I’m not sure I can say we were worse, either. We just made the egregious errors while Boston didn’t.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on
Oct 7, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
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We got outplayed by a mile. They still barely beat us.
That is why this hurts so much.
The Angels may have beat them 8 times in a row, but winning three before they do is all that matters.
by hauldog on
Oct 7, 2008 11:28 AM PDT
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other points
1. You have four different umpires, games 1-4…you’re going to have four different strike zones.
2. You can’t work all season to earn home field advantage and then go right out and lose the first two games at home. Blame who you or what you want, but we shouldn’t have lost both of games one and two at home.
Re-sign Tex!
by hk47 on
Oct 7, 2008 1:25 PM PDT
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Let's not bring up Kotchman vs. Texeira ever again please.
Once Mark had been here a week there was no longer any need to compare the two.
I like Kotch alot; he won me over after that lousy mononucleosis year that had me questioning him. And he’s a nice player.
But if you can’t see what a game changer Mark Texeira is after watching him the past 9 weeks I simply don’t know what to say. Once he joined the Angels he was clearly the very best everyday player we’ve had in our franchise in a long, long time. And if it came down to being able to sign only one guy, Tex or Vlad, it’d be an easy choice. He’s younger, he’s superior defensively, he’s an absolute masher, plus he’s one of the few guys on our team that showed up in the postseason.
He should be our number one priority in the offseason. However, I am a realist. I was thinking the one chance we’d have to re sign him would be that we go far in the playoffs. Why would he want to stay here now? Especially when the Yankees are going to throw a quarter of a billion dollars at him. Minimum.
by goodvibe61 on
Oct 7, 2008 10:24 AM PDT
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agreed, let's lay that damn argument to rest, rec'd
Re-sign Tex!
by hk47 on
Oct 7, 2008 10:33 AM PDT
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You are wrong
about the willits play. Willits did not knock the ball out of the glove, so your analogy is inapt. In your hypothetical situation, the tag isn’t made because the runner knocks the ball loose. As for what happened with Willits, he did have possession when he tagged him, and the impact did not jar the ball loose. Get over it.
by jjackflash on
Oct 7, 2008 2:39 PM PDT
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seems like some of us are just grabbing at straws.
TBS, ESPN, the umpires, and MLB all had it out for the angels. it had nothing to do with our porous D, lack of timely hitting, lack of power, and NL style micromanaging. it definitely couldn’t have been that the sox out played us.
before the series some of us ran around boards telling people how the halos would win this series based on superior pitching (starters and bullpen), superior D, and superior speed. we lost in everyone of those aspects (ERA = 4.19 vs 2.54 / Errors = 4 vs 1 / SB’s = 2 vs 4, and we ran into 2 outs on the basepaths). the umps have little to do with us getting outplayed on what we thought were our strong points going into the series.
for those of you who are going to continue to beat the dead horse of “varitek dropped the ball, we should protest”, familarize yourselves with Rule 2.00. once the tag is made the base runner is imedieatly out. there’s no continuation. it’s not the same as control calls (ie; collision at the plate / diving catch). plays at the plate hinge on ball control during the act of tagging. there was no question that varitek had control of the ball during the tag. have we all forgotten the a-rod slap play? so stop hitting that horse, it’s not getting up.
sorry to rant on what should should be of a celebratory thread. i just don’t want to feel like this season ended in sour grapes. the halos had a great/record-setting season. one i’m not soon to forget. from lackey’s almost no-no to k-rods run on history, this was truly a great season. thanks to rev and crew for keeping this board fun and informational 365 days a year. now sign tex and get escobar on a throwing regimen asap.
How is Gary Disarcina not in the Halo of Fame?
by Clutch_&_Scoop on
Oct 7, 2008 3:42 PM PDT
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Rev, could it be possible for a BOTG to include Scioscia next year?
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Oct 7, 2008 9:10 AM PDT 0 recs
the way I read into your post,
this series (in hind sight) would have been completely different w/o Howie. And I will add, could have been different w/o a squeeze play being called.
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on
Oct 7, 2008 9:12 AM PDT
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Squeeze
all year long people say thats angels baseball when something goes right like that but if it doesn’t then we second guess it? no we had a favorable count for the squeeze aybar just wimped out and didnt at least find a way of putting the bat on the which you have to do at any cost in a squeeze to protect the runner coming. We live and die by these plays this one just happened to be poorly executed or protected and we die but no reason second guess it because if it works sosh is a genius a gambler a daredevil so no second guessing it just swallow it and we’ll be back next year thats all we can do dont lose faith in greatness for the poor outcome of one called play
"Boy, did he drop a huge deuce in the stands!" (About a two-run homer)
Rex Hudler
by devildogamp on
Oct 7, 2008 9:17 AM PDT
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Bay
on the last play of the game napoli spiked bay’s hand with his cleat and bay spent the whole night during interviews wiping blood on his jersey so at least a lil kudos to naps for that
"Boy, did he drop a huge deuce in the stands!" (About a two-run homer)
Rex Hudler
by devildogamp on
Oct 7, 2008 9:32 AM PDT
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personally, when I heard the announcers talking about the squeeze...
and the count went 2-0 with a fast ball the most likely pitch coming as well, I was screaming at the t.v. “this is crazy, I can’t believe Sosh is gonna do this”. Live or Die, like you said. However, when you get this far and are on the brink of elimination with only 1 out and a pinch hitter already doubled off the pitcher I didn’t get the call. Oh well. And E-Bar absolutely blew it.
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on
Oct 7, 2008 10:14 AM PDT
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From today's Boston Globe...
Over and out: Angels, as usual, eliminated in Boston
There are a few certainties about Boston in October. The leaves will begin to turn. You’ll never be more than 100 steps from either a Dunkin’ Donuts or a historic landmark – or maybe both.
And the Angels won’t get past the Red Sox.
I think this should be printed out and posted to the locker of every player the first day of 2009 spring training.
Let no joyful voice be heard! Let no man look up at the sky with hope! And let this day be cursed by we who ready to wake... the K-Rod!
by Scuff on Oct 7, 2008 9:51 AM PDT 0 recs
TRUE
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on
Oct 7, 2008 10:14 AM PDT
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Sometimes you DON'T state the facts
so that you can avoid sounding like a d-bag. But if you’re in Red Sox nation, you don’t worry about such trivial things. You own your douchebaggery.
by ViolaHalo on
Oct 7, 2008 10:39 AM PDT
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yeah, at work
accidentlly hit “post” i guess and then had to leave real quick. when i got back i forgot what i was going to post.
i guess what i wanted to say was they act like they hadn’t been owned for 86 years by the baseball gods and the yankees. we’re gonna break through one day…and i hope it’s a 7-game series.
by SCHalo on
Oct 7, 2008 2:26 PM PDT
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Damn work, eh?
I agree. It’s like they’ve forgotten what it was like.
Oh, wait. Perhaps it’s because 75% of red sox nation weren’t red sox fans before 2004.
by ViolaHalo on
Oct 7, 2008 5:11 PM PDT
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Wasn't that posted in the Boston Herald?
Wasn’t the story from a sportswriter from The Orange County Register?
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