Angels WHAT TO DO: Mark Teixeira
Mark Teixeira will be 29 just after opening day in 2009. He is a free agent. He made $12.5 Million in 2008. His agent is Scott Boras.
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Make him an offer
22 mil/yr 6 years. Of course he will turn it down and sign with the the yanks for 26 mil per year for 8 years.
So why worry about it?
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Oct 9, 2008 6:02 AM PDT 0 recs
just thinking
about Tex playing for the damn Yankees makes me want to hurl….although, it will mean that the chowda’s will be getting spanked again on a regular basis…..
My only hope is that Tex finds that he really likes it here (you know, like we all do), and that he will settle for a little less money for sunshine pay (you know, like we all do).
by HaloMachismo on
Oct 9, 2008 7:08 AM PDT
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he's an east coast guy...
i don’t think he really cares about the sun. to be honest, i think location is the biggest factor working against us.
If the Red Sox and Dodgers play for the World Series, I will not watch a single minute of a single game.
by NoDakHalo on
Oct 9, 2008 8:08 AM PDT
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Why?
What the hell do the Yankees have for a rotation, especially if Mussina retires? They’re old up the middle (Posada/Molina behind the dish, Jeter at short) and ineffective where they’re not old (Melky Cabrera and Robinson Cano have both disappointed). It’ll be a while before they can fix that.
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by scareduck on
Oct 9, 2008 12:43 PM PDT
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8 years, $185m
Don’t go higher than that on the years, perhaps on the $$$
If that won’t do it, sod it, he can pack up his trailer and piss off back up the interstate.
I see red people
by The Limey on Oct 9, 2008 6:09 AM PDT 0 recs
HEY HEY HEY
Shhhhhhhhhhh. He may be reading this thread right now, and we don’t want to upset him with that type of dismissive language!
(in which case, I would be single handidly be more responsible for Teixeira not re-signing with us than any other person on this blog).
by Caseys Kiss of Death on
Oct 9, 2008 3:53 PM PDT
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Sign Him
Use the money you save from buying out GA to put toward signing Teixeira to a deal. Sit down with Boras now, to find out how much it is going to take to resign him, and try and find a way to sign him without turning our payroll into a Yankees type of situation.
Pain heals, Chicks dig scars, Glory lasts Forever!
by billhune on Oct 9, 2008 6:16 AM PDT 0 recs
If I was Reagins, my first order of business
would be to ask Teixiera (NOT Boras) if he really wants to stay here.
Based on other comments I have seen posted here on HH, I have my doubts. So, no reasonable amount of money or length of contract will work…and Boras will just play teams against one another to drive up the final contract.
by sothball on Oct 9, 2008 6:24 AM PDT 0 recs
I hope they do this
but sometimes you might just piss off the agent by doing this and he will steer his client to another team
Terrorist plot to blow up Fenway? I'm okay with that
by Sinatrasratpack on
Oct 9, 2008 7:44 AM PDT
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Piss off Boras???
- Who Cares?
- I think Boras’ skin is much thicker than that…protected by layers of cash.
- Boras has shown he will steer his client in the direction of highest possible dollar contract in spite all other considerations (think of A-Rod a year ago).
by sothball on
Oct 9, 2008 7:55 AM PDT
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I'd like to piss ON Boras
Hostility abounds on Halos Heaven
by thrill000 on
Oct 9, 2008 8:02 AM PDT
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I wouldn't if he was on fire
Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee
by Angel Aviator on
Oct 9, 2008 11:38 AM PDT
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What if you pissed fire?
If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.
by TheTypingFiend on
Oct 9, 2008 1:28 PM PDT
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by 0157H7 on
Oct 9, 2008 9:59 PM PDT
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Tell him this is our #1 priority for the offseason, and that we're in a hurry
Try — hard with Scott Boras, to be sure — to create a sense of urgency, maybe offering a sweet deal (7/150 or something) in a 30-day window. The whole team’s construction changes wildly depending on whether he signs, so we need to know ASAP.
by mattwelch on Oct 9, 2008 6:58 AM PDT 0 recs
Exactly right, priority #1
It seems reasonable given the Angels halfway decent relationship with Boras that when the time comes the Angels will make a first, last and best offer and get a relatively quick decision. If the answer is NO then priority #1 becomes, how do you replace that production? Everyone seems to be waving bye-bye to Garret so maybe two or three years of Manny are in order. We’d probably have to beat out an aggressive Dodger bid, but it would take some of the sting out of losing Tex…
by LUVtheLAA on
Oct 9, 2008 8:48 AM PDT
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Definitely agree.
If he says no, we may be in deep shit. I’m feeling more confident out the front office’s thinking because we traded for him, but I can’t help that lingering worry that they don’t recognize why he is so good. Do they recognize that patience is the key to his power production or do they just think “he’s got good pop in his bat?”
I’ve very scared of a Plan B. Just get Plan A done.
by snowhor on
Oct 9, 2008 9:55 AM PDT
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I was sort of hoping we went with the 1yr $1m theory of yours across the board
In all honesty Boras doesn’t give a rats ass about the dynamics of the team his client is going or not going to sign with. He is out for himself and if his client manages to make out alright then thats fine also. This is the same guy that announced/leaked to the world during the WS that ARod was opting out of his contract . He has a bigger ego then a lot of the players he represents.
Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee
by Angel Aviator on
Oct 9, 2008 4:17 PM PDT
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SIGN HIM!
He’s worth it, do whatever it takes to keep him here.
Hooters anyone?
by Chone's Chonies on Oct 9, 2008 6:59 AM PDT 0 recs
Dear Arte,
I beg you to keep U Haul here. He has a chance to be a Hall of Famer. Give up as much money as he wants, and let Frankie and Johnny and Judy. I think I’m speaking for most Angel Fans. PLEASE SIGN HIM ARTE!
"Halos Heaven All Time Saves Record Holder Genius Prognasticator."
by vlad IS my man on Oct 9, 2008 7:16 AM PDT 0 recs
Let him go
Spend the money on Frankie.
KIDDING!
But I wonder if anyone is actually going to say anything different than spend Frankie money on Uhaul.
"I've got more action than my man John Woo
And I've got mad hits like I was Rod Carew" - Shure Shot, The Beastie Boys
by Zoe Necrosis on Oct 9, 2008 7:25 AM PDT 0 recs
it looks like
we have around 37 mill to spend to keep the payroll where Arte wants it. We need to figure out what to do in LF one bulpen spot and one SP spot. We are already paying Kelvim, so here’s to hoping he can come back and be our closer (that way he is not throwing a lot of innings on a rebuilt arm)
By signing Tex a lot of pieces can fall into place, you can offer him 7-8 years at 21-22 a year, you can then offer GA 6-7 mil for 1 year plus an option year, give Lackey his 5 mil raise. that leaves anywhere from 3-5 mil left over for small time free agents that need to be signed or to retain Figgy with his raise whatever, the important piece is Texiera. IF he leaves Lackey has stated that offense is important in his re-uping decision. He might want to leave. We have the money (37 mil to play with)
Lets lock up our next Vlad for years to come, Imagine getting vlad before his knees went bad
Terrorist plot to blow up Fenway? I'm okay with that
by Sinatrasratpack on Oct 9, 2008 7:42 AM PDT 0 recs
sacrifice Scott Boras on a deserted island
and then sign up Tex
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring".
Rogers Hornsby
by ladybug on Oct 9, 2008 7:44 AM PDT 1 recs
Isn't Scott Boras a Newport Beach guy?
Doesn’t this guy have a favorite baseball team? If we can’t get Tex, then ban Scott Boras for life from Angel Stadium.
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on
Oct 9, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
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Yes he is and he has his hands in many things in and around there as well
he isa big financial backer JSerra.
Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee
by Angel Aviator on
Oct 9, 2008 11:40 AM PDT
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Ha, really?
That school in a business park looks like they’ve built some pretty nice facilities.
If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.
by TheTypingFiend on
Oct 9, 2008 1:30 PM PDT
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He has a dugout suite behind the plate
You can often see Boras standing behind the plate during a player’s at bat.
by HungryHunter on
Oct 9, 2008 12:32 PM PDT
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Who is the Helga with him at every game?
dark roots, wide hips, entertains guests in the suite while scott takes calls on the cell, glancing at the game on occasion…
by Rev Halofan on
Oct 9, 2008 4:16 PM PDT
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Boras has season tickets to every team in California
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by scareduck on
Oct 9, 2008 12:44 PM PDT
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And
his favorite team is whoever flashes the most cash.
Witty .sig goes here.
by scareduck on
Oct 9, 2008 12:44 PM PDT
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Sign him
whatever it takes. I’ll even help. I got a couple of bucks in my wallet.
Hostility abounds on Halos Heaven
by thrill000 on Oct 9, 2008 7:48 AM PDT 0 recs
someone made a good point about
$22 million (or however much) being a lot now, but could possibly be a decent deal 8 years down the road. Yeah I know all the economy bs thats going on, but I don’t quite see another Black Thursday coming.
I say do whatever it takes. If that means spend an extra $2 million more per year than we wanted, DO IT. This guy is worth every penny.
If the Red Sox and Dodgers play for the World Series, I will not watch a single minute of a single game.
by NoDakHalo on Oct 9, 2008 8:07 AM PDT 0 recs
Dow just went under 9k
for the first time in five years.
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by scareduck on
Oct 9, 2008 12:45 PM PDT
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While I grumbled about missing Kotch, this was a phenomenal trade.
GMJ started out great too….what happened to him?
HK started out great….what happened to him?
please please don’t let Tex do that next year if we sign him.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring".
Rogers Hornsby
by ladybug on Oct 9, 2008 8:08 AM PDT 0 recs
Throw the bank at him and sign his ass!
He is the big bat we’ve been waiting for for years! Patient, glove, power and great club guy. He should be the biggest contract Angels gave in history of the team. And everything else our team needs is already in house. I don’t care what he makes. I like him on our team.
by Monkeyspanked on Oct 9, 2008 8:15 AM PDT 0 recs
whatever it takes!!!!
Show 'em your a panther... Show 'em what you can do....
by stuck in Romania on Oct 9, 2008 8:36 AM PDT 0 recs
Give him whatever he wants...
This guy is a young stud who will be worth whatever he ends up getting.
by Clip Show on Oct 9, 2008 8:45 AM PDT 0 recs
Sign him.
And if you don’t, don’t sign anyone.
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by Carl Johnson on Oct 9, 2008 8:52 AM PDT 0 recs
Exactly...
Enough with the marginal free agents. No more GMJ players. Either superstars or youngsters acquired through the draft or through trades. Marginal players at high contracts are not the answer.
Jim Scully
by jimmuscomp on
Oct 9, 2008 9:09 AM PDT
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Exactly!!!
That’s exactly how I feel. Tex or nobody. Get the picks.
by Monkeyspanked on
Oct 9, 2008 1:30 PM PDT
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To Arte Moreno:
I’m poor. Rabbit ears on a 27" TV poor. Poverty and unemployment kinda poor. I made it to three games this season, splurging to spend more money on my credit card just to see the Angels play. I took my two year/old to his first game this year. I’m so poor that I usually don’t buy anything at the stadium.
It seems the first obstacle we face in bringing Teix back is location. If we can get past that, throw everything you can into bringing him back, monetarily. My poorassness situation is improving, and with a Teix resign, I promise to spend all my hard earned pay on jersey’s, hats, and other merchandise by going to more games in ’09.
Thanks,
Jason
www.13stoploss.com
by feNOMINAL on Oct 9, 2008 8:53 AM PDT 0 recs
Jeebus!!
Cut half the roster and sign this guy!
Do whatever it takes!!!
The time is out of joint; oh cursed spite, that ever I was born to set it right.
by chairmanofthebar on Oct 9, 2008 8:58 AM PDT 0 recs
sign him if you can, don't get into a Yankee A-Rod situation however
that is, don’t mortgage the future on one player. We all know how ARod has turned out for the Yanks (or the Rangers for that matter)
Angels in 09!
by tanana40 on Oct 9, 2008 9:10 AM PDT 0 recs
One can argue that A-Rod's contract isn't the Yankee's problem
as much as Carl Pavlano’s is.
If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.
by TheTypingFiend on
Oct 9, 2008 1:36 PM PDT
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was
The Angels may have beat them 8 times in a row, but winning three before they do is all that matters.
by hauldog on
Oct 10, 2008 10:18 AM PDT
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Exactly.
That’s why teams should only pay premium free agent dollars for premium free agent talent. If you can’t afford the top players, don’t compensate for it by overpaying people like GMJ.
by snowhor on
Oct 10, 2008 10:41 AM PDT
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I couldn't agree more.
I loved everything about Teixera coming to the Angels. We got an All-Star First Basemen. His defense was better than advertised and his offense was what I expected. He added protection for Vlad and nearly made a murder’s row with Tex, Vlad, and Hunter. With more offense from No. 1 and No. 2 in the playoffs and TEX could have had a ton of RBIs.
However, can we afford to lock up $160 to $176 million over the next 8 years? That pretty much stops anymore signings, doesn’t it? I understand there will be a lot of freed up cash if we do not re-sign K-Rod and if we buy out Garret. When does Sarge Jr.‘s no trade clause expire… isn’t it 09? If it is I suspect we could package GMJ and Figgins and/or Izturis for some top AA talent.
by Jay Cal on
Oct 9, 2008 2:56 PM PDT
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In all honesty Rev
I thought you would skip Mark Teixeira during this “Tell the Angel’s what to do.” Because to me it seems all to obvious how bad we want Tex to stay in Anaheim.
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by halofan4life on Oct 9, 2008 9:19 AM PDT 0 recs
DON"T SIGN!!!
Lower the price of beer and drop LA from the team name.
or… do the opposite.
by The Clyde on Oct 9, 2008 9:29 AM PDT 0 recs
if we sign him
I’ll personally buy the first round of higher priced beer and an scratch the name Anaheim off of the building with a pair of nail clippers.
Whatever it takes.
by The Clyde on
Oct 9, 2008 10:38 AM PDT
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I'll buy the second
but I’m still not paying for parking!
If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.
by TheTypingFiend on
Oct 9, 2008 1:37 PM PDT
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where do you park then?
ive never been able to find free parking
by linkbruin on
Oct 9, 2008 9:44 PM PDT
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You have to walk a little ways
You can park either on the street or in the lot of the business complex on the other side of the 57 from the stadium off of Orangewood. It’s a little bit of a hike, but the extra exercise and saving $10 are worth it, IMO.
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by Gorbachav5 on
Oct 11, 2008 12:39 PM PDT
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Not to mention
That it’s a heck of a lot easier to get in and out of those office parking lots than the Big A lot.
Angels fan since '67
by red floyd on
Oct 11, 2008 4:00 PM PDT
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Bite the Bullet, Arte...
It sucks, but the Angels have to beat any offer the Yankees make, I’d say up to $25 mill a year. This guy is a rarity, the ind of bat Vlad was when he first came, except with discipline and better health.
He may not be interested in playing for the Angels when he could be a new Yankee in a new Yankee Stadium, hitting in front of A-Rod (which in and of itself is ludicrous), but the Angels have to try their darndest. This kind of hitter is a rarity in today’s non-steroid game. Whatever it takes, guys.
by Kernel on Oct 9, 2008 9:44 AM PDT 0 recs
Idea
how bout every single one of us writes an email or letter to the angels forwarding to Arte telling him how much we want him to sign Tex. Arte is about the people so they say so he would definitely take the letters. Anybody else want to join?
"Throw some CHED!"
by angelskid2210 on Oct 9, 2008 9:51 AM PDT 0 recs
Shouldn't we also write to Teix
If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.
by TheTypingFiend on
Oct 9, 2008 1:38 PM PDT
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Tex is all about the $$$
Since we didn’t go to the Series, he will go to the highest bidder. Unfortunately, this is the ugly truth.
We need a new franchise player (to add/complement to the aging Vladdy and Torii), and he would be worth the long and expensive investment.
Q: What's the difference between A-Rod and Madonna? A: Madonna had a couple hits last October...
by tdischino on Oct 9, 2008 9:53 AM PDT 0 recs
SIGN HIM!!!
There’s no doubt he should be our number one priority this offseason
Hud: "Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in"
by HawaiiHaloFan35 on Oct 9, 2008 9:59 AM PDT 0 recs
Make him a offer he can't refuse
If we don’t sign anyone else this offseason, we got to get Tex back.
by 310Angel on Oct 9, 2008 10:02 AM PDT 0 recs
Agreed.
Appeal to the attractiveness of playing in SoCal, in the AL West, and in the playoffs. Fire Butcher so he knows we’re serious about improving the offense of this club. Embroider first base with his name.
Then make him an offer that no one will be willing to match. He’s THAT good.
by ViolaHalo on Oct 9, 2008 10:07 AM PDT 0 recs
just wondering
but how does firing butcher improve our offense? i’m assuming you meant hatcher? lol.
"Here we go baby, 'bout f***'n' time!"
by b0rd3rline on
Oct 9, 2008 1:16 PM PDT
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7 years, 20 million
give or take a couple million (just keep it under $25 million). Throw in an option for an 8th year (California law prohibits a contract longer than 7 years unless it’s a player option to go beyond that.
by jjackflash on Oct 9, 2008 10:07 AM PDT 0 recs
duct tape
get rid of frankie and GMJ, get cheaper players and give the money saved to Mark
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring".
Rogers Hornsby
by ladybug on Oct 9, 2008 10:09 AM PDT 0 recs
We're stuck with GMJ
He’s got a no trade clause.
"No pay me bunt" Vlad
by DaBigKahuna on
Oct 9, 2008 10:12 AM PDT
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I said "get rid"...I didn't say HOW... *evil laugh*
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring".
Rogers Hornsby
by ladybug on
Oct 9, 2008 10:14 AM PDT
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NTC
expired after 2 years of contract…the problem now is, what bonehead GM would TAKE GMJ’s contract on? nooooooooobody
by Sethy on
Oct 9, 2008 11:18 AM PDT
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Sorry, but...
GMJ full no-trade 2007 – 2009, limited no-trade 2010 – 2011 (can block trade to 4 teams)
They’re stuck unless he waives it.
I was uncool before uncool was cool.
by WiHaloFan on
Oct 9, 2008 11:22 AM PDT
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I still wonder what came over Stoneman with that signing.
Did Arte say something unkind?
If GA wasn't so Lazy, I'd have something clever here.
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