Uggla Revisited

by howiestheman on Nov 10, 2008 7:01 PM PST

I know we've hit the Dan Uggla idea before, but i don't remember discussing it in the context of trading for him, then shifting him to left field. hear me out...

Uggla was pretty bad at second base this year (.981 FP), but his bat obviously made up for it: .260/.360/.514 (at DOLPHIN STADIUM!!!). If we could acquire him for, say, Erick Aybar/Jered Weaver and a prospect, we could stick him in left, let him take over for GA and watch him rip up the AL West. That would enable us to hold onto Wood and Kendrick, while still adding a solid, powerful bat.

He'd be a solid Plan B if we missed out on Teixeira or Adam Dunn, and I would like to see us go after him even when we get Teixeira (notice I said "when"). His defense may be pretty bad in the infield, but he might be fairly solid out in LF (ala Ryan Braun).

Thoughts?

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Not a bad idea!!!

How are his away stats?

by mastermind565 on Nov 10, 2008 7:25 PM PST reply actions

wouldn't matter

Dolphin Stadium suppresses stats more than Angel Stadium. according to ESPN, Angel Stadium’s park factor is at 1.017 (barely favoring hitter), while Dolphin Stadium is at .954 (favoring pitcher).

but since you asked, his 2008 road stats were: .296/.387/.573 with 17 of his 32 homers.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Nov 10, 2008 7:36 PM PST up reply actions

Damn...

Those are good road stats.

by Chzburger Jones on Nov 10, 2008 7:51 PM PST up reply actions

scary, isn't it?

although, i thought Dolphin Stadium was worse than it actually is.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Nov 10, 2008 7:52 PM PST up reply actions

Well, I will give you one thing...

…you have managed to make the thought of Kendry Morales in Left Field a palatable idea.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 10, 2008 7:36 PM PST reply actions

that's what people said about Ryan Braun too

check his stats.

and i suggested K-Mo in right, not left.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Nov 10, 2008 7:52 PM PST up reply actions

Braun...

…he of the twisted ribcage muscle from playing positions in the pros he never played in his life. Check.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 10, 2008 7:59 PM PST up reply actions

so let's cherry-pick a freak injury

instead of looking at his 149 games in left field WITHOUT an error in 2008. wonderful.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Nov 10, 2008 8:00 PM PST up reply actions

PWN

by ihearhowie2.0 on Nov 11, 2008 4:37 PM PST up reply actions

aaaaaaaand

it’s all for naught, anyway.

“What about Dan Uggla and his $5 million projection? Juan Rodriguez was assured again Monday night — as I have been recently — that the Marlins have made it clear Uggla stays into next season.” - LINK TO STORY

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Nov 10, 2008 8:03 PM PST reply actions

ball park factors

by mastermind565 on Nov 10, 2008 8:06 PM PST reply actions

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?season=2008

by mastermind565 on Nov 10, 2008 8:07 PM PST reply actions

Also keep in mind...

Uggla plays in the weak NL East. Granted the NL East is a much better division than the NL West put I’d rank the NL East pitching staffs as some in the worst in the league. The Mets, Phillies, Atlanta, and Washington don’t exactly have top tier pitching staffs.

I told everyone here last year that Miguel Cabrera’s numbers would go down a bit because he was moving from the NL to the AL and mostly everyone scoffed. I also said HK would breakout and hit like .340 but I was definitely right about Cabrera’s numbers. His OPS went down 80 points on what was already considered a slightly sub-par 07.

by MH252525 on Nov 11, 2008 8:04 AM PST reply actions

not a bad idea

but i think mike would prolly split the time with izturis and wood.

i don’t think he has full confidence in wood yet.

by angelfan_007 on Nov 11, 2008 12:14 PM PST reply actions

I would never give up Weaver for a player of his caliber.

He’s not an outfielder! Are you going to be happy to lose a quality arm every time Uggla blows one in left? or second?
Halos Heaven is way to enamored with guys that can hit 20-30 jacks.
ala Ryan Braun, now that is a name that we could use. He still has upside.

by Big Bad , "VLAD"! on Nov 11, 2008 12:14 PM PST reply actions

That's true.

But a lot of people lost confidence in Weaver.

I just think he had a bad season and I’m pretty sure hes going to rebound.

As long as he doesnt become his big brother Jeff, we’re good =D

by angelfan_007 on Nov 11, 2008 12:16 PM PST reply actions

if Weaver is in

then who replaces him in the rotation? we still need a 5th.

by HALO_86 on Nov 11, 2008 12:55 PM PST reply actions

you've got to figure that we'll sign at least one pitcher this offseason

it’s what we do.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Nov 11, 2008 1:03 PM PST up reply actions

which one

CC is the only 1 worth the high price. the others seem to have baggage. Burnett underperformed during his tenure with the Bluejays and i think he’s had major arm trouble. Dempster first yr in the rotation. Lowe doesn’t seem worth what he might get.

by HALO_86 on Nov 11, 2008 1:05 PM PST up reply actions

3 errors

in the all-star game.

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Nov 11, 2008 1:35 PM PST reply actions

No freakin way

Weaver and Aybar is way too much for him. Marlins just traded Willingham and Olsen for a light hitting second baseman and two guys in the low minors.

Weaver is worth more than Uggla. Aybar straight up would be a fair trade (considering contract and defensive ability) if the Marlins want to move Hanley to another position.

by RallyMonkey5 on Nov 11, 2008 2:41 PM PST reply actions