Magglio Ordonez Rumor

This article speculates that the Tigers might end up trading Ordonez, and the best fit is with the Angels. They need a catcher (Mathis), shortstop (Aybar), and reliever (?).

Sounds good to me.

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Sounds good and all...

But the remaining amount on his contract would eat up a lot of payroll, maybe if the Tigers shared some of the contract

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by halofan4life on Nov 12, 2008 12:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Bah

Maggs is over the hill and his hair is overpermed.

by Higz on Nov 12, 2008 12:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

If we lose Tex.......

I say do it…..shoot try and make HGH waive his NTC and re sign Rivera……
OF
Hunter
Rivera
Ordonez
DH
Guerrero
1B
Morales

VERY NICE……..I LIKES

Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by acuda27 on Nov 12, 2008 12:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I would love this trade. If we sign or don’t sign tex I would go for this. If we can give up mathis, aybar and mosely we wouldn’t miss those guys at all. However Detroit will probably want napoli, wood and arredondo.

legen... wait for it... dary

by thebigA on Nov 12, 2008 1:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

If we sign tex...

We would have one of the best offensive teams in the league.

Figgins
Ordonez
Tex
Vladdy
Hunter
Naps
GMJ (If he sucks DH wood or morales)
Howie
Izzy

legen... wait for it... dary

by thebigA on Nov 12, 2008 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ordonez in the two hole? WTF

Teixeira............Everything else can wait.

by hauldog on Nov 12, 2008 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

up for debate

the actual batting order is up for debate. If howie starts swinging the way he should he obviously is the best fit for the 2 hole.

legen... wait for it... dary

by thebigA on Nov 12, 2008 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He would be arguably the second best hitter in that lineup

Teixeira............Everything else can wait.

by hauldog on Nov 12, 2008 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't want to see mosley go

yeah he had some bad starts early last year, but he had really good ones down the stretch when we had saunders and weaver out.

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by halofan4life on Nov 12, 2008 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

depth

Mosley might be someone detroit actually takes. I would offer them spier first but odds of them going for that would be slim. When it comes down to it Mosley is expendable and if he would get us ordonez in return you have to make that deal.

legen... wait for it... dary

by thebigA on Nov 12, 2008 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i wish

i wish we could get teixiera and sabathia and ordonez
of course that is impossible
but it would be like having a fountain of beer
that never runs dry ever

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by princeton11loveshalos on Nov 12, 2008 2:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

just pass on sabathia

I will take tex and ordonez. Sabathia is going to be over paid for what he is, he belongs in the NL. With that kind of offense we can just let our youth battle it out for the 5th spot in the rotation.

legen... wait for it... dary

by thebigA on Nov 12, 2008 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

thats why its a dream

but those two would make me pretty damn happy

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by princeton11loveshalos on Nov 13, 2008 12:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What power?

Last I checked, the little that Magglio had has, with the exception of 2007, been non-existent since 2003.

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by Clutch on Nov 13, 2008 1:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

it isn't all about power

never said anything about power just offense. Ordonez can at least hit over .300 have 20 hrs and over 100 RBIs thats an upgrade over anderson.

legen... wait for it... dary

by thebigA on Nov 13, 2008 8:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ok

Fine, I’ll modify my response.

Offense? What offense?

OPS+ in 2007: 159. Great!

Average OPS+ 2003-2008, excluding 2007: 121, and dropping fast. You know that his HR rate and RBIs, again with the exception of 2007, have been steadily dropping, right? You might get one semi-decent year out of Mags in ’09 and then be stuck with another GA—only, you know, without that second-half streak that makes up for sucking the rest of the season.

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by Clutch on Nov 13, 2008 9:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

07 wasn't 10 years ago

If we sign tex and make this trade ordonez would the 3rd or 4th best hitter on the team. To have another 100 RBI threat among vlad and tex would be amazing. His numbers haven’t been dropping steadily 07 was only a year ago where he hit .363 28 hr and 139 RBIs. He still had .317 21hr and 103 RBIs last year, it is a one year drop off from a batting champ year. Anybody that wouldn’t like to see someone put up those type of numbers when they aren’t even your 3rd or 4th hitter would be crazy.

legen... wait for it... dary

by thebigA on Nov 14, 2008 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Heh

So 2007 is what the industry calls A CAREER YEAR.

Meaning IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.

You didn’t see everyone trying to trade for Darin Erstad after 2000, did you?

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by Clutch on Nov 14, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

another over-30 outfielder?

no thanks. we need to get a bit younger… not older.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Nov 12, 2008 4:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

NO NO NON O NO NO

and NO

this guy is made of glass, has about 3years and around 50 mil left on his deal and is already old. theres a reason they want to trade him

by ihearhowie2.0 on Nov 12, 2008 4:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Runs like a girl also

Teixeira............Everything else can wait.

by hauldog on Nov 12, 2008 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

thats the second of his feminine qualities

his hair being the first.

by linkbruin on Nov 12, 2008 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The Latino Mullet?

The HR he hit off of Street is still in the air.

I like that the year Fremont got out of the first round they got swept.

Teixeira............Everything else can wait.

by hauldog on Nov 12, 2008 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

No

Maybe a few years ago, but not now.

The LAST thing we need is yet another over the hill, no more power guy clogging up the outfield. Might as well just re-sign GA for three years and $50 million—and probably get better production.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/o/ordonma01.shtml

No thank you.

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by Clutch on Nov 12, 2008 8:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, you're right

The Angels don’t need anyone with a career average .371 OBP (which he did better than last year) clogging up the basepaths. I suppose they should keep Mathis and Aybar, if that’s truly what it’d take to get him, because they’re MUCH better and the Angels don’t want to be too shallow at the mid-infield positions.

Maybe Mathis can play left, he’s only 25 years-old.

Sorry, don’t mean to be so “snarky”, but who cares how old he is? Plus, if the deal is good (Mathis, Aybar and Mosely) why pass it up? I’d dig up Ty Cobb if I thought he’d hit only .317 and get on base over a third of the time.

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by WiHaloFan on Nov 13, 2008 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

So you do realize

That (again with the exception of 2007), that his slugging, (fielding), HR rate, and overall OPS have been steadily declining for each of the past five or six years, right?

You REALLY want to watch that decline continue, if not accelerate, in an Angels uniform?

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by Clutch on Nov 13, 2008 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You're right

he is declining, but he’s still better than a lot of other options. I’m just worried that some of the younger guys aren’t ready yet. I’d love to see Morales do well, but even best expectations for 2009 aren’t as good as an Ordonez off year…at least in 2009. 2010 will probably be a different story, but I want to see a championship this year and then worry about the following years.

I admit, probably not the best way to think about it, but I don’t want to see another first round elimination.

I was uncool before uncool was cool.

by WiHaloFan on Nov 13, 2008 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Think of it this way

We give Morales 500 ABs in RF/at DH next year, which he is able to use to grow, develop, and mature at the major league level to become one of the elite starters in the game, as we know he will.

Or we sink those ABs into Magglio Ordonez, who isn’t going to get better and will, in fact, continue to get worse.

I’d much rather develop the young talent that’s still growing and going somewhere.

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by Clutch on Nov 13, 2008 11:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs