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Angels Done With K-Rod

...so says owner Arte Moreno. Today, on the Sports Lodge, this is what Moreno had to say:

"Believe it or not, we really spent a lot of time and effort trying to re-sign Frankie. In fact, I think there were six different offers on the table, at different times. At about this time last year, we thought we had him signed. Rivera got the three-year, $45-million deal from the Yankees. I was at the owners’ meetings in Florida last year where Tony felt that we had him signed. We had an agreement and he didn’t sign it.

"I think as a whole, we’re probably turning the page on this one. I think that we as an organization made this decision. And I’m not one of these ‘never, never’ people. I’m saying, I think as a whole, it’s important to turn the page and move forward, and get prepared to do some of the other things we want to do."

It sounds like Arte, like with the Cabrera deal, got tired of being yanked around, so he's moving on. My thoughts? Good for him. I know there's a ton of Frankie lovers on this site, but I think we'll be better off without K-Rod closing down games for us. Is the answer Arredondo? I have no clue... but if there's one thing I know about our front office, it's this: They don't close one door without having another plan in place.

That being said, I wish Frankie the best on whatever team he's with next year, and I have complete faith that Arte and Friends know what they're doing.

This Fan-Post is authored by an independent fan and may or may not be a reflection of human evolution, divine enlightenment or nine cans into a 12-pack.

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frankie wont get anywhere near that 75 million he wants

and he will be humbled.

put that 15 million to good use somewhere else (read: Mark Teixeira or a SP)

by ihearhowie2.0 on Nov 12, 2008 4:40 PM PST   0 recs

yup.

wholeheartedly agree.

Kotch would've had that.

by howiestheman on Nov 12, 2008 4:47 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I think what Artie's saying

is that we won’t pursue him… if he wants to come crawling back to us, we might resign him. Artie just lowered his value.

by Los Angeles de Anaheim on Nov 12, 2008 5:16 PM PST   0 recs

Closers

i still can’t believe they get that much money period. they pitch 1 inning for 40-60 games. thats insane. at least guys like Paplebon? can go 2 innings for a save. those are the type of closers that are worth some good money. i would rather give good money to relievers who can come in the middle of an inning and get some pitcher out of trouble. those guys are even worth more i think. guys like K-Rod come in the 9th with a clean slate. sometimes they may face weak hitters for the save. idk, i wouldn’t waste my money on a closer like that.

by HALO_86 on Nov 12, 2008 5:27 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

EXACTLY

and when you add up all of the economic uncertainty this country is heading for, I can see alot of players getting alot of heat in the upcoming seasons for the amount of money they are making while the rest of the country is suffering in a terrible reccession/depression. I hope this isn’t the case either way, but it certainly is heading that way.

I also just don’t see teams paying absorbantly high salaries to the top free agents this year.

When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!

by Dono Romantico on Nov 13, 2008 9:00 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Cream of the crop will get their money

But the fringe guys, or those guys just below the top few, are in for a rude awakening.

by LosAngel on Nov 13, 2008 3:18 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

good point

but lets try to avoid nice comments about that that jig-dancing hick….

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Nov 13, 2008 10:41 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Heard this as it was happening

I like what Arte had to say. He basically said, without saying, that they are not going to bring K-Rod back (thank god). He also didn’t think that they were going to bring it up and then they asked him if they were going after Manny Ramirez and he pretty much gave a “no comment” which clearly doesn’t mean no.

by turs12 on Nov 12, 2008 6:53 PM PST   0 recs

I took the Manny comment that way too.

Seems they might consider him as an alternative/addition to Teix.

I was uncool before uncool was cool.

by WiHaloFan on Nov 12, 2008 7:33 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

It's all negotiation ploys at this point anyhow

Bottom line is we haven’t left the exclusive window where players can only negotiate with their own declared free agents. Scott Boras won’t let any of his players sign during that time, which means you may as well forget about a lot of the others, too, since they’re looking to boost their value.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Nov 12, 2008 7:42 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

LAT story

Here’s the late link in tonight’s Times, which basically has the same quote. I really do think he’s done with the Angels; Arte’s not a little fed up with his hijinks, especially the big postseason implosions that happen with the game on the line. There are guys who can get it done, and there are guys who can’t, and K-Rod has failed in every postseason he’s been in — including 2002, though his failure there was mitigated by the bats.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Nov 12, 2008 7:40 PM PST   0 recs

no need to rewrite hostory, Rob...

Frankie went 5-1 in the 2002 postseason. His failure was mitigated by his success.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 12, 2008 11:21 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Brilliant

“His failure was mitigated by his success”

Touch'em all

by THE VOICE on Nov 13, 2008 10:47 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

It's amazing

In the same year that Frankie breaks the single season saves record, he alienated many of his fans, and it seems possibly his own teammates and owner. Frankie, hope you become the first person in history to truly become happy from your money.

Scioscia - He provides to unlike method of your team member.

by Rally Manatee on Nov 12, 2008 9:36 PM PST   0 recs

Seems like

Arte has a hard on for Manny…the interview had me in a trance…it seems like if the Dodgers can’t resign Man Ram – he is the Angels’ No. 1 ‘under the table’ priority this off-season.

by BBFan1 on Nov 12, 2008 10:10 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

He is still a historical talent, and probably will be until he hurts his arm

And a big part of me would love it if for once we could keep a home-grown Hall of Fame talent on the club past his 30th birthday … but all in all, I really hope we re-sign Teixeira.

by mattwelch on Nov 12, 2008 9:48 PM PST   0 recs

Sad to see Frankie go

wow, so this is it. Scareduck, how can you say he “failed” in 02? Without him, the Angels probably would not be World Series Champs. With that in mind, if the Angels fail to re-sign Uhaul, getting Frankie back wouldn’t be a complete disaster of an offseason. I guess now we have to get used to Shields as our Closer. He’s a few steps below Frankie, but it might do for a temporary fix. This time, there’s no real successor-in-line for the job, so it will be interesting. Throwing big money for Justin Spier probably wasn’t the best idea either, so the Angels need to be prudent with their bullpen money. Lackey’s impending FA will cost us.

I love LAC.

by oasisman on Nov 12, 2008 10:15 PM PST   0 recs

Goodbye, Frankie

When you get a save against the Angels next year or at any point in the remainder of your career, I will not begrudge you throwing up a chest-thumping shout to the sky.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 12, 2008 11:23 PM PST   0 recs

Good riddance

K-Rod was good but he was declining every year and he isn’t even worth Mariano money IMO. Rivera is much better than K-Rod. Papsmear, Nathan, and Lidge are also better than K-Rod (well at least in 2008 for Lidge anyways). The save statistic is complete BS in my opinion and it has completely bastardized the way teams manage their bullpens. I’m not a fan of the “closer”. Managers should bring in their best reliever if there are 2 on and 2 out with a 1 run lead in the 7th inning if need be. There is no reason to save them for the 9th inning if the game needs saving in the 7th.

by Chzburger Jones on Nov 12, 2008 11:40 PM PST   0 recs

I agree with a 100%

Why use a lesser pitcher in the 7th or 8th when the game is truly on the line, saving your “best” pitcher for an low-leverage save in the 9th…if you still have the lead.

I was watching the highlight video from the 2002 WS the other day and K-Rod was absolutely dominating (so I have to disagree with you scareduck). If he were the same pitcher as he was six years ago I’d say he might be worth what he’s asking for, but there’s been a noticeable drop-off since then.

Good luck.

I was uncool before uncool was cool.

by WiHaloFan on Nov 13, 2008 5:24 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

K-Rod is an arm in decline...

In 2002 his velocity was 96-98 and it has declined every year (in 2008 it was 91-93). He’s not going to miraculously recover this. And with this decrease in velocity, hitters are finding it much easier to lay off his breaking ball (which is in the dirt 80% of the time anyway). All of this is only going to decrease his effectiveness.

by mgerman23 on Nov 13, 2008 11:36 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

i agree

use your best when you need them is correct. why wait till the 9th when you need your best in the 7th or 8th.

by HALO_86 on Nov 13, 2008 10:04 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

What are horse mackerel!

You believe that I am the toad of the month!

"i got 5ive on it"

by Funke5ive on Nov 13, 2008 1:13 AM PST   0 recs

Once again proof...

… that we have the best owner in professional sports.

Financial aspects of committing 15 million to a closer aside, I appreciate having an owner who won’t lower himself into the muck. If you want to play for this team, you’ll play by our rules.

I wish you all the best Frank. Thanks for the memories.

Perhaps you've heard of me from the pages of Sports Illustrated...

by Northwest on Nov 13, 2008 3:18 AM PST   0 recs

What are the chances...

…that in the fairly shitty market for closers this year, Frankie accepts arbitration and tries to go large at the end of the ’09 season, in the hope that he gets a better pay day?

I see red people

by The Limey on Nov 13, 2008 6:56 AM PST   0 recs

if the dow sinks to 7000

Frankie is an Angel in ’09

by Rev Halofan on Nov 13, 2008 8:50 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Last season...

I never once had the feeling of “Oh yes, game over” when Frankie came out of the pen. The guy has amazing talent but let’s face it, the closer role is a little overblown and overrated. And consistency is key.

He wants how much, $75 million??? Time to move on. Shields would fill in fine, IMO. Spend the money on Tex.

The time is out of joint; oh cursed spite, that ever I was born to set it right.

by chairmanofthebar on Nov 13, 2008 8:48 AM PST   0 recs

For the money he'll get...

He won’t be worth it. And I don’t think he’ll get more than $12 million a year, maybe less. Although that arbitration comment does scare me a little. Talk about a complete distraction and a waste of money.

I vote for Arredondo to get the job. Despite what some people think, Shields has been barely worse than K-Rod over the last 4 years, and has done it in more innings (although his innings have decreased eac hyear), so I’m fine with Shields being the 7th-8th guy and letting Arredondo take the 9th.

I feel the need, the need...for speed!

by Gorbachav5 on Nov 13, 2008 9:37 AM PST   0 recs

Shields

i dont’ care what kind of rubber arm Shields is suppose to have i wish they wouldn’t overwork him. if they let him work like they do K-Rod he would be able perform way better then his numbers do show.

by HALO_86 on Nov 13, 2008 1:45 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Shields actually had less innings

than K-Rod last year. Shields is getting older and can’t handle as big a workload, but I think a lot of his value derives from being able to get 4 or 5 outs if you need them. Scioscia had the luxury of resting him a lot since the Angels were so far ahead in the division, but if the race is closer this year, I wouldn’t be surprised to see 80 innings out of Shields. As long as he can handle it, that’s fine.

I feel the need, the need...for speed!

by Gorbachav5 on Nov 13, 2008 4:32 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Arte Moreno = Best Owner

Smart man. Frankie’s above-average, but not by much, according to BP.

by Kernel on Nov 13, 2008 9:43 AM PST   0 recs

i think the best way i can describe frankie is as an escape artist

not necessarily a bad thing for a closer as escaping is all that matters in the end, but i think for what he wants to be compensated with, he would have to be dominating and just slamming the door.

by ihearhowie2.0 on Nov 13, 2008 10:02 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I agree with Chzburger Jones

The “Real” save should go to the guy to shuts down a 2 -on, 1 or 2 out threat in the 7th when his team is up by one. The “closer” who comes in to start the ninth is de-facto under much less pressure, because (as Franceesco has done many times) he can give up a walk or a hit and still get the “S”. The guy who shut them down, IMO, is a more valuable guy.

by SocalAngelFaninOC on Nov 13, 2008 10:06 AM PST   0 recs

Stats

the Hold stat should be the 1 we should be looking at. how well the short relievers hold a lead.

by HALO_86 on Nov 13, 2008 10:10 AM PST   0 recs

Let's consider this the first of several good moves this offseason

As a bonus, i’ll be able to stop dosing up on Tums at the start of the 9th inning of every close win.

Keep in mind, I don't know wtf i'm talking about.

by tdischino on Nov 13, 2008 10:20 AM PST   0 recs

lol

i know what you mean. its like opposing teams can’t wait till the 9th.

by HALO_86 on Nov 13, 2008 10:30 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Why would we want a shut down closer

The 9th inning just wouldn’t hold the same drama, you would be able to leave early, turn off the game before the 9th even started and get to your honey do list earlier.

Now is that what you really want?

by Seik1177 on Nov 13, 2008 10:32 AM PST   0 recs

yep

all that drama that we as fans get in the 9th. we get our money’s worth.

by HALO_86 on Nov 13, 2008 11:03 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Yes is it what I want

and I completely disagree with the disinterest you suggest there would be if we had a lights out closer. Remember that guy Eric Gagne a few years back as a Dodger? Our stadium would be way more pumped up about the ninth inning if we had a shut down closer. Papelbon, Lidge, and Nathan allow baserunners every now and then and Im sure that provides enough of the edge of your seat excitement for their fans.

I absolutely do not want a closer that sends near heart attacks to all the teams fans on a regular basis. The closer is the type of pitcher that should do just the opposite. What I’d like is some more competition in our division so there are more meaningful games down the stretch. Thats exciting……. going to games in which you know they are truly meaningful. And it certainly looks like thats going to happen with the A’s significantly improving. I can’t wait for next year, especially if we resign Tex!

What in the wide wide world of sports is a goin on here?

by AlohaHalofan on Nov 13, 2008 6:30 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Dude it was 3:30 in Hawaiin Time when you wrote your post

Were you hitting the Mai Tai’s early?

The sarcasm was dripping from that post.

by Seik1177 on Nov 14, 2008 12:05 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

theres an awful lot of manny/halo talk on espn

i’m getting nervous

Still, I wish I was here

by adirondackangelfan on Nov 13, 2008 11:23 AM PST   0 recs

i wouldn't be nervous

having him in our lineup during the playoffs.

by SCHalo on Nov 13, 2008 11:50 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

how about when he starts swining at ron roenicke?

or when he decides to take a few games off mid-season?

or when he starts rolling over balls in the outfield?

or when he quits running to first altogether?

by NoDakHalo on Nov 13, 2008 12:09 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Do you think Scioscia and Moreno would really put up with that?

I think the Red Sox “coddled” Manny a bit too much. I don’t think the Angels management would.

I was uncool before uncool was cool.

by WiHaloFan on Nov 13, 2008 12:20 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Leave it to Funk5ive to "go there."

The Dodgers got Manny to cut his hair, and run fast to first. Manny united the Dodger clubhouse and set the team on fire to get in to the playoffs. Arte might be eyeing Manny to replace Guerrero after 2009. If Arte wants Manny, he would have to act now.

Recipient of the 2008 "The Iron Man" award from scottnak of Halos Heaven!

by 44FAN on Nov 13, 2008 12:27 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Angel and Dodger fans

were diff mindset. obviously we both want our teams to win. i think we have a certain mindset that we want our guys to be like. hard working. Manny great bat, bad guy. i don’t want that. we have to keep the faith that we can win without guys like Manny. Dodgers will accept anything because they have no identity.

by HALO_86 on Nov 13, 2008 12:29 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Maybe if Manny prayed openly on the field, that would win over Anahiem fans.

Holliday will be doing it in Oakland, which could lead to a massive conversion of all those dirty hippy liberal A’s fans.

Recipient of the 2008 "The Iron Man" award from scottnak of Halos Heaven!

by 44FAN on Nov 13, 2008 12:38 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Manny cut his hair?

Teixeira............Everything else can wait.

by hauldog on Nov 13, 2008 1:02 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Just a little bit, still has the dreads but not as long as they were with the Red Sox.

Recipient of the 2008 "The Iron Man" award from scottnak of Halos Heaven!

by 44FAN on Nov 13, 2008 1:11 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Thanks. Did not know that

Teixeira............Everything else can wait.

by hauldog on Nov 13, 2008 1:16 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Manny cleaned up his act for two reasons:

1. To rub it in the Red Sox face, and
2. Because he was looking to score another big contract.

I don’t trust this clown for a second. Who knows when he’s going to decide that Manny is more important than the team and the organization?

by NoDakHalo on Nov 13, 2008 1:23 PM PST   0 recs

I made this fanpost back in July from this SI.com article that Manny has had a desire to play for the Angels since before the last trade deadline. nce the last trade deadline

Oh, Ick! Manny Has Eyes For The Angels

Manny Ramirez would prefer Boston to either extend him or release him after this year, allowing him to shop himself to all suitors. He is said by some to have his eye on the Angels, whose obvious need is for another big bat and who may have Vladimir Guerrero coming off the books after the season. An Angels person said they don’t expect to make any major changes before the July 31st deadline.

 3 months ago44FAN 24 comments0 recs |

Recipient of the 2008 "The Iron Man" award from scottnak of Halos Heaven!

by 44FAN on Nov 13, 2008 1:42 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Drama

does any Angel fan want to deal with the Manny drama. yeah he can hit like a beast but all that extra crap he brings just not worth it unless its like 1-2 yr.

by HALO_86 on Nov 13, 2008 1:47 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

This was my view as well when he was with the Red Sox.

Now I wonder how much that had to do with the Red Sox as a team, who we all hate so much. Manny’s time and distance away from the Red Sox, and watching how he turned himself around and the Dodgers, has changed my perception of him to a more positive light. He is no different than any other professional player really. If a player is on a team he wants to play for he is likely going to be happier and more productive than on a team he has had conflicts with.

Recipient of the 2008 "The Iron Man" award from scottnak of Halos Heaven!

by 44FAN on Nov 13, 2008 1:56 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

If K-Rod leaves.......then fine....good luck....thanks for the memories......

but the Halos will be just fine without him……..I cant say Frankie would be the same without the Halos though…….just my .02

Miss you Kotch......Love you Trent

by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 13, 2008 2:36 PM PST   0 recs

Peace Out

Giving him the kind of money he wants is simply not what smart teams do. Give Arredondo the job. Sure there will the bumps, but he’ll be fine in the end.

Time to focus on some combo of Peavy, Tex, or CC…

by Floppy Bad Boy on Nov 13, 2008 6:57 PM PST   0 recs

No CC

Too much money, give the youngsters a chance

by Seik1177 on Nov 14, 2008 12:06 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

K-Rod

Thanks for the memories. I still hope you will be back, if not you will be missed.

To all the haters, you will realize what we had once it is gone.

by LosAngel on Nov 13, 2008 10:04 PM PST   0 recs

It's about replacing 10.14 Ks per 9 innings (K-Rod's K rate in 2008)

With Francisco’s apparent departure, the Angels need to find a relief pitcher with a high K/9 rate to replace him. It would be best if the Angels can make a shrewd trade for such a pitcher. But given their propensity to turn to the free agent market, I’m hoping they can sign Diamondback free agent relief pitcher Juan Cruz at a reasonable price.

2007: 61 IP………12.8 K/9 3.10 ERA 3.70 FIP……….Avg.Fastball: 94.5 mph
2008: 51.2 IP…….12.4 K/9 2.61 ERA 3.62 FIP……….Avg.Fastball: 94.3 mph

The K rates the past two years are sensational and fastball velocity is very strong. His career K rate is 9.35 Ks per 9 IP.

Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!

by Fan Since 1981 on Nov 14, 2008 2:59 PM PST   0 recs

NOTE: I am not suggesting that Juan Cruz be the closer.

A hard throwing, high K guy like him would be a good addition to the bullpen. His downside is his high BB rate.

Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!

by Fan Since 1981 on Nov 14, 2008 3:09 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Sounds a lot like Frankie.

Certainly a good arm to have in the pen, just not at a record salary.

by snowhor on Nov 14, 2008 3:43 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Hoffman's available.

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Nov 14, 2008 3:47 PM PST   0 recs

Sorted by Ks per IP
	Player	TEAM	W	L	ERA	Save Pct	Win Pct	KO pIP
1	J Nathan	PHI 	2	0	1.95	100.00%	100.00%	1.33
2	M Rivera	COL 	1	5	2.73	88.24%	16.67%	1.32
3	J Soria	        LAD 	4	4	2.49	81.82%	50.00%	1.28
4	B Lidge	        LAD 	3	5	3.13	63.64%	37.50%	1.28
5	F Rodriguez	CHC 	5	4	3.26	85.00%	55.56%	1.27
6	B Wagner	SEA 	6	5	3.88	65.22%	54.55%	1.21
7	J Papelbon	HOU 	6	3	3.38	86.27%	66.67%	1.15
8	T Saito	        LAA 	2	3	2.24	89.86%	40.00%	1.13
9	B Jenks	        BOS 	5	4	2.34	89.13%	55.56%	1.11
10	B Fuentes	CIN 	5	4	3.33	85.00%	55.56%	1.11
11	B Ryan	        NYM 	0	1	2.3	79.41%	0.00%	1.11
12	M Capps 	MIN 	1	2	1.33	86.67%	33.33%	1.10
13	Broxton	        NYY 	6	5	1.4	97.50%	54.55%	1.10
14	K Wood	        BAL 	3	5	4.73	83.78%	37.50%	1.09
15	F Cordero	SF 	3	2	4.62	87.23%	60.00%	1.08
16	J Valverde	SD 	3	6	3.77	88.24%	33.33%	1.02
17	K Gregg	        TOR 	2	4	2.95	88.89%	33.33%	1.00
18	S Torres	OAK 	7	5	3.73	72.00%	58.33%	0.99
19	R Franklin	KC 	2	3	1.6	93.33%	40.00%	0.98
20	H Street        ARI 	4	8	4.14	75.00%	33.33%	0.93
21	T Hoffman	TEX 	2	2	6.02	85.71%	50.00%	0.89
22	Putz	        FLA 	7	8	3.41	76.32%	46.67%	0.85
23	J Rauch	        TB 	2	1	4.53	87.50%	66.67%	0.84
24	T Percival	ARI 	3	5	4.7	83.87%	37.50%	0.74
25	B Wilson	PIT 	2	3	3.02	80.77%	40.00%	0.73
26	B Lyon	        STL 	6	6	3.55	68.00%	50.00%	0.65
27	G Sherrill	MIL 	7	5	3.49	80.00%	58.33%	0.64
28	T Jones	        CWS 	3	1	2.63	88.24%	75.00%	0.62
29	C Wilson	DET 	4	1	4.97	85.71%	80.00%	0.34

If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.

by melvintoast on Nov 15, 2008 10:51 PM PST   0 recs

Ignore this chart... it's messed up.

If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.

by melvintoast on Nov 15, 2008 11:02 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

You can slice it a few ways... K-Rod is in the top 5 in the MLB.
	 Player   	 ERA   	 SV   	 SVO   	 IP   	 BB   	 SO   	Save Pct
1	B Lidge	    1.95	41	41	69.1	35	92	100.00%
2	M Rivera	    1.4	39	40	70.2	6	77	97.50%
3	J Soria	      1.6	42	45	67.1	19	66	93.33%
4	F Rodriguez	2.24	62	69	68.1	34	77	89.86%
5	J Papelbon	2.34	41	46	69.1	8	77	89.13%
6	B Ryan	    2.95	32	36	58	28	58	88.89%
7	B Jenks	    2.63	30	34	61.2	17	38	88.24%
8	B Fuentes	2.73	30	34	62.2	22	82	88.24%
9	T Hoffman	3.77	30	34	45.1	9	46	88.24%
10	T Percival	4.53	28	32	45.2	27	38	87.50%
11	B Wilson	4.62	41	47	62.1	28	67	87.23%
12	J Nathan	1.33	39	45	67.2	18	74	86.67%
13	J Valverde	3.38	44	51	72	23	83	86.27%
14	T Jones	    4.97	18	21	41.2	18	14	85.71%
15	C Wilson	6.02	24	28	46.1	27	41	85.71%
16	K Wood	    3.26	34	40	66.1	18	84	85.00%
17	F Cordero	3.33	34	40	70.1	38	78	85.00%
18	B Lyon	      4.7	26	31	59.1	13	44	83.87%
19	G Sherrill	4.73	31	37	53.1	33	58	83.78%
20	T Saito	      2.49	18	22	47	16	60	81.82%
21	M Capps  	3.02	21	26	53.2	5	39	80.77%
22	S Torres	  3.49	28	35	80	33	51	80.00%
23	B Wagner	2.3	27	34	47	10	52	79.41%
24	K Gregg	      3.41	29	38	68.2	37	58	76.32%
25	J Rauch	      4.14	18	24	71.2	16	66	75.00%
26	H Street	 3.73	18	25	70	27	69	72.00%
27	R Franklin	3.55	17	25	78.2	30	51	68.00%
28	Broxton	    3.13	14	22	69	27	88	63.64%
29	Putz	    3.88	15	23	46.1	28	56	65.22%

If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.

by melvintoast on Nov 15, 2008 10:57 PM PST   0 recs

Only 3 guys were more effect saves-wise this year

He doesn’t get hurt much. It may not be pretty but there isn’t much available. If you think K-Rod is easily replaced, then why can’t the rest of the MLB find pitchers as effective as he is?

Lidge has 3 years ~11.5M per year with a 4th year option
Rivera has 2 years ~15M per year
Soria has 3 years ~3M per year with 4th and 5th year option
Papelbon not eligible for free agency.

It’s called supply and demand.

It may be possible that the next 4th best closer is already playing for the Angels but it kinda seems odd that it would just happen to be the case.

If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.

by melvintoast on Nov 15, 2008 11:12 PM PST