Trade predictions
Tim at MLBTR has posted his predictions for the top 50 FAs. He's go the Angels signing Tex, Randy Johnson, and GA to FA deals, and the Mets picking up K-Rod. These aren't wild predictions, and for the ones that the media is shooting down (K-Rod), Tim's got some valid logic behind his picks.
As much as I used to despise that big ugly dude when he was up north, curious what the thoughts around here are on RJ wearing a halo to pick up his career 300th.
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The Unit as a 5th starter?
Yes please. Even at 84 years old (or however old he is), he’d be a better 5th than Garland, provided he can be healthy enough for 25 starts. He doesn’t eat nearly as many innings as Garland, but we’d have a better shot at winning his starts.
I just wonder how much he’ll sign for. I saw somewhere else that predicted we’d sign Teix (Jon Heyman at SI, I think). Please let it happen…
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on
Nov 3, 2008 2:41 PM PST
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RJ
saying if someone is healthy, he’s better then someone else is easy. of course if Randy is healthy he’s better then Garland. if he was Healthy we couldn’t afford him anyways as a 5th starter. Prior, Mulder, Smoltz… list goes on. if they were healthy.
by HALO_86 on
Nov 3, 2008 5:01 PM PST
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I don't get your point...
I guess you missed the part where I gave him 25 starts, indicating that he probably won’t be healthy for a full season. But he did make 30 starts last year, so I don’t think 25 is an unreasonable figure. And even only pitching 150 innings or so, he’ll still be an upgrade over Garland.
My point is that Johnson is good and Garland is not. That’s “easy” to say because it’s true. I honestly have no idea how much he’s going to want, so he may not be worth it, but I’ll bet he signs for less than Garland. He’ll be decent value wherever he goes.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on
Nov 3, 2008 9:22 PM PST
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my bad
i thought you meant that healthy or unhealthy he labors through 25 starts. Garland i think has the stuff to be a #3, but he doesn’t look anything but a #4 at best right now is still going to get some kind fat contract. i like RJ don’t get me wrong. i just thought you meant he wouldn’t go on the DL but just labor through starts.
by HALO_86 on
Nov 3, 2008 9:29 PM PST
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pass on randy
save the money for teixeira
by ihearhowie2.0 on
Nov 3, 2008 2:44 PM PST
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yes
I’m still petrified of that ’stache
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by vlad IS my man on
Nov 3, 2008 3:51 PM PST
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i like the idea
but i’m still on the peavy bus. espn the mag says the pads are looking for a young starting outfielder and two big pitching prospects. willits, adenhart, and green/walden? remember, we have the opportunity to re-stock the farm in this draft.
If the Red Sox and Dodgers play for the World Series, I will not watch a single minute of a single game.
by NoDakHalo on
Nov 3, 2008 2:47 PM PST
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I thought Peavy was firm on NL only
Although I am drinking the kool-aid too, and would love to see Peavy in Anaheim.
Keep in mind, I don't know wtf i'm talking about.
by tdischino on
Nov 3, 2008 2:51 PM PST
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the angels are the only AL team he said he would approve a trade to
If the Red Sox and Dodgers play for the World Series, I will not watch a single minute of a single game.
by NoDakHalo on
Nov 3, 2008 2:55 PM PST
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link?
Keep in mind, I don't know wtf i'm talking about.
by tdischino on
Nov 3, 2008 2:56 PM PST
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From sportingnews.com
“The Jake Peavy sweepstakes reportedly has two more contestants — the New York Yankees and the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. "
”http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=482387" target="_blank">http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=482387
The World Series would be a lot better if the Angels were in it.
by Andyman on
Nov 4, 2008 5:58 AM PST
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That would be great for the Angels...
…but let’s be realistic.
They are going to want alot more than that to pry Peavy out of SD.
by Ajax on
Nov 3, 2008 4:44 PM PST
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not enough
Peavy has like 4 yrs left on his contract. if i were SD GM and was going for quality then Adenhart is a good start. Willits has no value. we have no top shelf OF prospects. so ask for at least Wood/Sullivan/Arredondo/?, combo of 2 of those. another midlevel prospect.
by HALO_86 on
Nov 3, 2008 5:07 PM PST
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They don't need Wood
They have Greene and Kouzmanoff in those two positions, and both solid at them.
Light Up That Halo!
by Clutch on
Nov 3, 2008 11:24 PM PST
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cutting payroll
whole point in trading Peavy is to unload vet contracts. Padres are rebuilging and since Greene has value i think there going to trade him.
by HALO_86 on
Nov 4, 2008 11:21 AM PST
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SD desperately wants a CFer
And I’m not talking about GMJ. I don’t think the pieces we have match up with what SD wants.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on
Nov 3, 2008 9:23 PM PST
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Good luck
convincing the Padres that Willits is a starting outfielder.
by Chzburger Jones on
Nov 4, 2008 6:55 AM PST
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link?
Keep in mind, I don't know wtf i'm talking about.
by tdischino on
Nov 3, 2008 2:56 PM PST
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google.
why make us do the heavy lifting?
by Rev Halofan on
Nov 3, 2008 2:58 PM PST
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heavy lifting?
I’m just asking the guy to back up a statement. I’ve payed a lot of attention to the Peavy trade situation and i’ve not seen anything definitive that his agent or the Pads GM is even talking to the Angels. Yes, early on, we were on the list of “approved” AL teams, but later I read that he had ruled out AL althogether… is it out of the question to ask for a link to support that statement?
Keep in mind, I don't know wtf i'm talking about.
by tdischino on
Nov 3, 2008 3:20 PM PST
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Um
The fact that his agent or the Pads GM has not been reported talking to the Angels does not mean (a) it hasn’t happened, and, most importantly (b) that we’re not on his list of approved trades.
The Ninja is notorious for living up to his nickname. Just you wait.
Look down this list, too: Note that Axelrod has noted Peavy’s list and the presence of the Angels thereon: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/jake_peavy/
Light Up That Halo!
by Clutch on
Nov 3, 2008 4:12 PM PST
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i knew i could rely on someone to back me up...
If the Red Sox and Dodgers play for the World Series, I will not watch a single minute of a single game.
by NoDakHalo on
Nov 3, 2008 4:14 PM PST
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ok point taken
yes, we are the only AL team he green lighted. And yeah, TR might be working something on the sly. I guess I should have made my point more that, It’s just not likely since Axelrod has mentioned discussions with several teams, so why would we not be mentioned? The fact that the last time we were mentioned in relation to Peavy pretty much anywhere on the Internet was 10/15 (when it was announced) doesn’t strengthen the case.
In addition to the fact that we would likely have to give up the farm (literally) to get him… we don’t need a new ace, we need a #4/5.
Keep in mind, I don't know wtf i'm talking about.
by tdischino on
Nov 3, 2008 5:07 PM PST
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talk about weird timing
This just showed up on MLBTR about half an hour ago. Although it does little more than restate what Peavy indicated 3 weeks ago (and unfortunately adds the skanks in) at least we are being talked about again. All indications, all discussions were with NL teams.
Keep in mind, I don't know wtf i'm talking about.
by tdischino on
Nov 3, 2008 8:16 PM PST
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i don't have a link...
just the vast amount of knowledge that i have acquired discussing the issue on this site. i haven’t heard anything about him ruling us out for sure, but you could be right.
If the Red Sox and Dodgers play for the World Series, I will not watch a single minute of a single game.
by NoDakHalo on
Nov 3, 2008 4:13 PM PST
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I've read some stuff that Ken Rosenthal has suggested Peavy may consider the Angels over the past few weeks.
He wants to be on a winning team with post season potential, and would like to not have to relocate his family from Southern California. So that could be the Dodgers or Angels for that matter.
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by 44FAN on
Nov 3, 2008 5:08 PM PST
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its like a roller coaster ride
down, up, down again… this comment below in regard to Peavy and Angels/Yanks.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11042008/sports/moresports/brewers_serious_about_keeping_sabathia_136785.htm
However, Peavy’s rep, Barry Axelrod, said, “We have not given approval for those two teams and we haven’t even been asked to say yes or no.”
Keep in mind, I don't know wtf i'm talking about.
by tdischino on
Nov 4, 2008 10:54 AM PST
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This guy does a good job compiling the rumors I read his site everyday
That being said I am not wild about his analysis.
I sincerely doubt the Dodgers could afford to sign Manny, Furcal, Crede and Oliver Perez.
Teixeira............Everything else can wait.
by hauldog on
Nov 3, 2008 4:22 PM PST
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"He's go"
I love the guy who makes a post about trade “rumours”, and not the Fleetwood Mac kind, and then starts demanding links once you start discounting them.
"why do you we still have quitlin?" -VladdyG
by cupie on
Nov 3, 2008 4:29 PM PST
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You tell 'em, cupie.
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by 44FAN on
Nov 3, 2008 5:11 PM PST
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good catch
Picking on typo’s, that’s top notch. The internet has ruined both of us.
If it came off as a demand, that was unintentional. I didn’t think he was discounting anything (he didn’t mention a thing about RJ which was the meat of my post) I was hoping to see something that negated everything i’ve been reading about (that there have been no reported discussions with TR).
Is it that time of the month around here?
Keep in mind, I don't know wtf i'm talking about.
by tdischino on
Nov 3, 2008 5:12 PM PST
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"We've Up"
I love typos and those who make them. I make them all the time.
You are also the one who has the sig " Keep in mind, I don’t know wtf i’m talking about."
"why do you we still have quitlin?" -VladdyG
by cupie on
Nov 3, 2008 6:23 PM PST
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i love you too cupie.
seriously though… if Howie ever gets traded, that’s gonna be my new name.
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on
Nov 3, 2008 6:30 PM PST
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that's right, it's a universal disclaimer
And also supposed to be slightly humorous should any one here try to take things too seriously.
Keep in mind, I don't know wtf i'm talking about.
by tdischino on
Nov 3, 2008 6:55 PM PST
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Dude...you should have just said you were British.
You totally blew it.
Now, put Chris Pritchett at first, Bobby Rose at second, Pete Coachmen at third, and let's go win.
by GarretSaysSuckIt on
Nov 4, 2008 8:51 AM PST
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I'd be okay with The Unit coming over
If we could get Tex and Oliver too, we’d be pretty well set, IMO.
I wouldn’t mind Fuentes coming over, either.
Figgins LF
Kendrick 2B
Teixeira 1B
Guerrero RF/DH
Napoli C
Hunter CF
Morales DH/RF
Wood 3B
Aybar/Izturis SS
Mathis BN
Matthews BN
Brown BN
Izturis/Aybar BN
Evans? BN
Lackey
Santana
Saunders
Weaver
Johnson
Oliver
Moseley/Jepsen
Speier
Arredondo
Shields
Fuentes?
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on
Nov 3, 2008 4:50 PM PST
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Peay in Anaheim would be awesome. They should definitly pull the trigger on one of these trades. Every off season it seems the Angels are the center of a blockbuster but don’t want to give up young talent. DO IT
by BossTime27 on
Nov 3, 2008 5:02 PM PST
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would you?
were you for the Cabrera deal last winter? with the players that we were suppose to send over, it would have been a disaster i think. i didn’t like Cabrera, defense and that attitude he had. he can hit but without pitching whats the point. anyways i guess what i’m trying to say is trades aren’t always the answer, some of the best ones are the ones that aren’t made.
by HALO_86 on
Nov 3, 2008 9:51 PM PST
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I think most
Were for getting Cabrera in some way or another. It would’ve happened, too, if the Marlins hadn’t gone so batsh*t crazy on us in the end…like all teams seem to do when we want to trade with them.
Light Up That Halo!
by Clutch on
Nov 3, 2008 11:27 PM PST
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imagine if it happened
it was Santana or Saunders, Kendrick, Wood, Adenhart?
by HALO_86 on
Nov 4, 2008 11:23 AM PST
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predictions
Reaslistically SP:Lackey, Santana, Saunders, Weaver, (Adenhart, Moseley, Green, Loux):Hopefully 1 of these guys can step it up until an evaluation of Escobar can be made. make a deal @the deadline if Escobar can’t comeback and the rookies don’t step up.
PEN:Shields, Arredondo, Spiers, Bulger, long reliever role (Moseley, Green, Loux) , final spot(Jepsen, Thompson, Bootcheck) or Oliver if he accepts a 1 yr deal.
2B-Kendrick, SS-Wood, C-Napoli, LF-Figgins, CF-Hunter, RF-Vlad, DH-GA, 1B and 3B(if Tex isn’t resigned. Trade for a Corner IF because the FA market isn’t that good. If we get a 1B then move Morales to LF and Figgins back to 3B. if we get a 3B, put Morales @1B.) Use Napoli more @DH when facing a lefty and sit GA. Give Mathis as many games at C possible for his D.
-If Tex isn’t signed go hard after CC to bolster that staff and gives us more strength and use 1 of the younger guys at the trade deadline for a Bat if the young guys don’t step up. i would personally go after CC and Tex at the same time and see who’s willing to sign first.
-Peavy might ultimately cost too much.
by HALO_86 on
Nov 3, 2008 6:27 PM PST
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fail.
no Shields in your bullpen.
“Give Mathis as many games at C possible for his D.”
so those 13 errors and Napoli’s .960 OPS meaning absolutely nothing to you, huh?
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on
Nov 3, 2008 6:33 PM PST
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Shields is the first guy listed
Teixeira............Everything else can wait.
by hauldog on
Nov 3, 2008 7:48 PM PST
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saw that
my bad.
i apologize, HALO_86
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on
Nov 3, 2008 7:51 PM PST
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I understand a catcher's D is important
Moreso than almost all other positions on the field. But holy hell, Mathis was so INCREDIBLY BAD at hitting last year, while Napoli was so incredibly good. I know there’s only so much you can teach, but if I’m Scioscia, I come over to Napoli’s house every morning this offseason and teach him how to call a game, block bad pitches, and throw to second (after his shoulder heals, of course). EVERY MORNING.
Because if Jeff Mathis starts more than 40 games next year, we’ve got problems.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on
Nov 3, 2008 9:29 PM PST
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what
Shields is my first 1 in the Pen. i don’t mean sit Napoli down, just when theres a lefty starting put him at DH and let Mathis catch. Sit GA down. give Mathis as many games possible. Mathis had a horrible year throwing, but that can be worked on, especially because he has a track record of being a good defensive C.
by HALO_86 on
Nov 3, 2008 6:37 PM PST
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Napoli is also a good defensice catcher
maybe not as historically amazing as Mathis is, but he is no slouch behind the plate. Throwing errors are HUGE for catchers, those errors put runners on 3rd, or in some cases this year, he made bad throws to 3rd and the runner scored. Mathis was a catcher this year who IMO cost us runs. And I backed him for a lot of time this year, hoping he would turn it around, and after checking out the numbers recently it became very clear to me who should be behind the plate, and not just more, but a lot more. and that’s Naps
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by halofan4life on
Nov 3, 2008 6:44 PM PST
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NApoli
if you look at my starters Naps is my starter @C. no doubt after the finish Napoli had. i don’t think he handles pitchers as well so whenever you can put him @DH and put in Mathis @C i would do that. i know the throwing errors cost us alot this year, but he’s still young. we have to give players chance. i think he’ll rebound big next year whenver he’s playing. but definitely Nap is the starter. just don’t count out Mathis
by HALO_86 on
Nov 3, 2008 6:50 PM PST
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on any other team
Mathis would be out on his butt or down in AAA after year he had.
it’s ridiculous to think that a guy that put up a .194/.275/.318 line (!!!!!!!!!) with 13 errors could steal end up getting a good share of starts.
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on
Nov 3, 2008 6:58 PM PST
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no joke.
his SLG was about the same as GA’s OBP.
both make me a little sick.
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on
Nov 4, 2008 9:37 AM PST
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I supported Mathis all year
I wanted him to be the guy behind the plate b/c I believed that he was not only at least an average hitter, but amazingly defensively. I was let down horribly this year. I’m officially off the bandwagon and I hope that Sosh follows me.
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by halofan4life on
Nov 3, 2008 7:34 PM PST
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I think the pitchers will forgive him
When he hits a homerun every other game.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on
Nov 3, 2008 9:30 PM PST
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*defensive
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by halofan4life on
Nov 3, 2008 6:45 PM PST
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FA we missed out on
i remember when Arte first took over the team, his first winter i think we signed Vlad, Colon, Escobar in ‘03. then after the ’05 season it seemed like we kept missing out on the big FA bat for one reason or another. i’ll admit after the W-Sox beat us in ‘05 i thought we need another bat bad. that was the season i think we let Glaus go.
05-Konerko
06-Soriano
07-didn’t trade for Cabrera
do u guys think that would have been good moves looking back, how mad would we all be with any of those 3 guys or would you guys be? i know i would be. i’m probably missing other big FA bats the last 3yrs.
by HALO_86 on
Nov 3, 2008 9:58 PM PST
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Well...
Remember that we ALMOST got Soriano at the ‘06 trading deadline but either the Nationals tried to wipe out our farm system or Stoneman sat on his damn hands again until it was too late (that was the failed deal that pushed me over into straight-up Stoneman cynicism for a while…in hindsight, he’s OK).
The trouble with signing Soriano in the 2006 offseason is that he wanted WAY too much money. Arte went so far as to say that at the amount Soriano wanted, Arte may as well have given him the keys to the franchise, too.
I wanted the Cabrera trade last year, as a back-up if we missed out on A-Rod (which was also out of our control, in the end). Given that the Marlins also tried to r**e our farm system, I think it was a good move not to do it.
And Konerko? Glad we dodged that bullet—and keep in mind I wanted him at the time, too.
Light Up That Halo!
by Clutch on
Nov 3, 2008 11:32 PM PST
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if it happened
would we as fans be happy right now knowing 1 of those players would have been one the team? i just feel like only 1 hitter really made a impact that was Manny. so whatever he gets on the market he deserves i just hope its not with the Angels.
by HALO_86 on
Nov 4, 2008 11:30 AM PST
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Saunders/Weaver, Adenhardt, Willits for Peavy (they need outfielders)
Then sign CC
We’re just dreaming here, right?
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on
Nov 3, 2008 11:44 PM PST
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Don't sign CC
Another Big Bart disaster waiting to happen. I’d hate to see another great pitcher go down in flames after being overworked—and I’d especially hate to see him do it on our team.
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by Clutch on
Nov 4, 2008 12:49 AM PST
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sign CC
i think thats overrated when it comes to overworking a pitcher. he’s a big boy he can handle it. it wasn’t like he’s been overworked throughout his career, it was just that stretch when it was needed. it just shows me he’s money pitcher i would invest in him. big risk, big rewards. obviously big disaster can too, but i like the chances.
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Nov 4, 2008 11:27 AM PST
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Two words
Bartolo, Colon.
CC is gonna want a long term contract worth BIG money. He was worked the same way that Bart was worked before the halos got him, and we got exactly ONE good year from him and that was 2005 (in 2004 he had 18 wins, but also 12 losses and ERA north of 5, not what I consider to be a good year). Maybe you wanna place our next 7 years into him, me personally I’d rather spend the money on Tex or another impact bat that can protect Vlad.
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by halofan4life on
Nov 5, 2008 2:56 PM PST
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Agree. Just sign Tex, forget CC.
No one can predict what the effect of the last two years will be on CC’s arm. His workload these last two years is significantly higher than the rest of his career. There’s no point in gambling with that many years and that much money.
by snowhor on
Nov 5, 2008 3:11 PM PST
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Pitching
my thinking is that when it comes to dominant #1’s, there aren’t that many in this league. so if you have a chance to have 1 of them on your team i think go for it. i agree with you guys when it comes to mileage, but like you said you can’t predict it. some arms are built to last some aren’t. i thinnk getting a big bat down the road is easier then getting a front line starter. especailly 1 thats from the west coast that might give a west coast team a slight discount. thats all.
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Nov 5, 2008 3:56 PM PST
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Lackey isn't that dominant #1?
Keep in mind, I don't know wtf i'm talking about.
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Nov 5, 2008 9:52 PM PST
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JMHO, i know its crazy stupid sometimes, lol, but no. he’s a very good #2. when i think of #1 pitchers right now, guys like Holliday, Peavy, Sabathia, Santana, come to mind. i see Lackey as a good #2.
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Nov 6, 2008 11:08 AM PST
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Please (before I write something stupid)
Go into detail why it is that you think that Lackey is not a legit number 1 starter. Hell Jared Weaver could be a solid number 2 or 3 on most staffs and I think that Lackey is light years ahead of Weaver in terms of stuff composure and the ability to lift his team. So please, for me, elaborate.
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by halofan4life on
Nov 6, 2008 3:21 PM PST
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lackey
are you telling me you would put Lackey in the same sentence as Sabathia, Peavy, Santana?its one thing to be an Angels fan but cmon. i’m not talking about most staffs. are you saying all team have a #1?Lift his team, look its not Lackey that lost the playoff games but you don’t go into a playoff game and think this is pretty confident when you see who he has to pitch against.
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Nov 6, 2008 4:25 PM PST
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Lackey2
if Weaver is a 2 or 3 on most staffs then whats Santana on most staffs?
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Nov 6, 2008 4:37 PM PST
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Santana would be an ace on some staffs
But that is besides the point. And yes I would place Lackey in the same column as Sabathia, Peavy and Santana. Only one season below .500 (2003) only twice less than 150 k’s (2004 – 144, 2008 – 130). He doesn’t have eye-popping stats like some guys in this league, but out of all the Angel pitchers right now, at this moment, I can’t think of ONE who I would rather see on the bump other than Lackey. He gives his team a chance to win 90% of the time that he is out there, which to me, makes him a dominant ace.
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by halofan4life on
Nov 6, 2008 4:56 PM PST
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i don't think your
getting my point. i never meant to say Lackey isn’t any good. he to me doesn’t put the fear in other hitters like Halladay, Peavy, Sabathia does. not every team has a ace starter. your lucky if you have one. most teams if their lucky like us have a good #2 like Lackey. luckily we have more the 1 #2. Santana, Saunders looks like their heading that way.
by HALO_86 on
Nov 7, 2008 4:56 PM PST
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I'd take Lackey over Peavy.
Teixeira............Everything else can wait.
by hauldog on
Nov 7, 2008 10:22 AM PST
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There's an upper limit...
…on the number of truly catastrophic haircuts allowed in one baseball team without offending the Gods of Fortune. That number is 1.
We’d have to trade WTY if we brought in Johnson to avoid eternal damnation.
(To be fair, I haven’t seen RJ play in the last year to determine whether or not he grew his back after the failed Yankees experiment – I suspect his mullet was analagous to Samson’s – however, even if it doesn’t, his original haircut was of such an extreme variety that it would have a residual mullet effect that transcends whether or not it still actually exists)
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by The Limey on
Nov 4, 2008 3:05 AM PST
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You are right - Randy Johnson's mullet may be physically gone, but is still alive and well in spirit
If Randy could still pitch as he did when his mullet became its own entity, I would say "welcome aboard." But the guy is 45, makes 8 figures and has a bad back. As much as his mullet transcends its physical existence, his body has no such ability to defy the space-time continuum. I say "no thanks."
by Big Easy Halofan on
Nov 4, 2008 8:57 AM PST
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This is known in scientific circles as The Mullet Paradox
…if the mullet exists, the player excels, but is unemployable on grounds of taste and decency. If it doesn ’t exist, his skills are diminished and whilst becoming aesthetically acceptable, his other physical limitations become pertinent. Thus the previous presence of a mullet is the ultimate determinant of exceptional athletic ability, but discounts the actual existence of said skills.
Either that, or his 9 years as a Mariner make him totally unemployable in Orange County, the lanky bogan arsehole. One or t’other.
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by The Limey on
Nov 4, 2008 3:54 PM PST
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