Some questions

by Kristy_Joe on Dec 25, 2008 7:38 PM PST

1. I'm not sure about the additions and subtraction to the roster and how much they are worth. However, when I do look at the roster there are some names with no uniform numbers assigned, probably meaning they are place holders or how does that work?

2. So, how much is the current 2009 Angel payroll?

3. Are the Angels collecting insurance on Escobar for 2008?

4. Who will be the 40th man on the roster (seeing they have 39)?

5.Will Nick Green really be the fifth starter?

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1. Some players have been added to the roster this offseason, some taken off. They have not assigned the jersey numbers yet.
2. ???…ask in March
3. No…they paid in full.
4. Depends on who they sign/trade for (though not likely) from now until April 6th
5. Probably not…I believe he has not made his major league debut

*Hope this helps

by cmy912 on Dec 25, 2008 7:46 PM PST reply actions

duh

How much is the payroll now, as it exists on Christmas Day) vs. 2008?

Did Escobar have an insurance policy on him (as did Mo Vaughn) or not? How do you know? Did the final payroll numbers reflect the insurance policy, or was it counted in a different column?

Is there anything wrong with letting the players like Nick Green fight it out for the fifth starter spot?

by Kristy_Joe on Dec 25, 2008 8:22 PM PST up reply actions

Ballpark without working on it - payroll 2009

Start with a base of 120 mil
Subtract GA, Frankie, and that white sox pitcher guy we had for a year. About 35 mil

Add yearly contractual raises to players such as Vlad, Torii, GMJ, ? 4-5 mil

Add (guess) raises for arbitration eligible free agents.
10 mil

So about 100mil give or take 5.

So for 2010 add 10 to 12 mil raise for Lackey and Vlad 0 to 2 mil after re-signing and Tori and GMJ increments. 12-15 mil

Then we got other pitchers/hitters that are going to be coming up for free agency and arbitration in 2010 that won’t come cheap. But at least we won’t have to worry about losing GMJ to another team!

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Dec 25, 2008 9:53 PM PST reply actions

line 4 - arbitration eligible "players"

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Dec 25, 2008 9:56 PM PST up reply actions

I think I added it up once

And came up with about $92 million currently committed, assuming reasonable arbitration raises for the eligible players. Opening Day payroll last year was $119 million, which later increased due to Tex’s prorated salary, contract purchases from the minors, and signing bonuses for draftees. All told, I’m guessing they spent $125-130 million last year. Signing bonuses have become quite lucrative; with five first-round picks already coming his way (and possibly six if Garland signs elsewhere), Arte probably keeps the starting payroll down this year. They’re probably working with a budget of $20 million. That’ll buy a good reliever, a fifth-starter, and maybe a platoon player for the corner infield.

by Suboptimal on Dec 26, 2008 12:35 AM PST up reply actions

I've been inspired to put up a fanpost on the subject.

For an amateur, I imagine I did a pretty decent job. But I don’t know, the comments should be interesting.

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Dec 26, 2008 1:25 AM PST up reply actions

Why?

Why all the questions on payroll? SoCal is a great market, if Arte puts a very good product on the field and creatively markets the hell out of it – he could INCREASE payroll and still turn a healthy profit every year. Furthermore, isn’t the stadium lease up in 5 or 6 years? Whenever the lease does expire, he’d be smart to use that also as a way to increase revenue.

Even with a year or two of challenging economic conditions, Arte and Reagins should be seeking to put the very best product on the field to grow revenue at a pace faster than payroll. As long as they do that, Arte makes money.

by mustard_man on Dec 26, 2008 2:15 PM PST reply actions