NO live radio for any spring training games!!! None !!

by SFV88 on Feb 28, 2008 3:47 PM PST Comment 51 comments

So i called am830 they informed me that NO spring games will be broadcast live. ALL games will be tape and rebroadcast at 6pm!!! Thats BS!! They also told me Im the only one to complain. Please join me and post this info on other places.

AM 830 KLAA

2000 Gene Autry Way
Anaheim, Ca 92806
Business Line:

(714) 940-2500
Fax Line:

(714) 940-2589
maybe even call the Angels them office.

Now you think 830 am is better then 710?

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They rent the airwaves

I think they want to squeeze every dime out of that Scarborough dude and Tony Alamo before the season starts. Pay to Play on K-LAA...

by Rev Halofan on Feb 28, 2008 3:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I just called and complained....

they said that they are receiving a lot of complaints.

this is the only thing i look forward to at work.

by autrys cowboys on Feb 28, 2008 3:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

you aren't alone.

i called and they said the same thing. lots of people are complaining.

"if you're not first, you're last"- Ricky Bobby

by halobaseball on Feb 28, 2008 3:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Can also call Angel Stadium and complain

I called the Angels main number and got through to the communications department and complained to them. Call (714) 940-2000.
They gave me some hogwash about contractural obligations or something like that; I wouldn't be surprised if MLB.com has exclusive rights to broadcast all spring training games live and maybe other teams also are having their games delayed.

by HowTheGrichStoleChristmas on Feb 28, 2008 4:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

The Dodgers game was on live on AM790

So that's BS. If the dodgers get live broadcast then WE BEING THE BETER TEAM SHOULD TOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by acuda27 on Feb 28, 2008 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Bullshit!

That blows... only upside for me is I can't seem to get 830 in the studio here in San Clemente... I can get it in my car outside though, adn since I'm driving back to Orange, I should be able to get the game then.

Sunnovabeech!

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by sipperphoto on Feb 28, 2008 4:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Please post to MLB and other sites

If anyone has a user name on the MLB forum for Angels or ESPN ETC ETC ETC, please re-post this, they more calls they get the more they have to take notice.

by SFV88 on Feb 28, 2008 4:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

You mean to tell me...

there are other Angels blogs than Halosheaven?

Let's go, Spiezio!

by Downing Rules on Feb 28, 2008 4:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Called the media....

I also e-mailed the Angels beat writers for the Register, L.A. Times and Riverside Press Enterprise to complain. Did I miss any other papers?

by HowTheGrichStoleChristmas on Feb 28, 2008 4:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

miss

the Daily News.Oh and the Herold Examiner(j/k)
But email 710 Im sure they would love to smear 810.

by SFV88 on Feb 28, 2008 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What I love most is......

the HUGE push in advertising (atleast billboards) for 830 AM. What a joke!

by autrys cowboys on Feb 28, 2008 5:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

really!!

what's the point? Tune in for the Angels....

and listen to what we want you to hear

by ladybug on Feb 28, 2008 5:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

exactly!!!

we are the new "flagship" station....but we will go ahead and tape delay it for you!!!

We need to pound 830 with complaints and get this corrected.....not a good move Arte!!!

by autrys cowboys on Feb 28, 2008 9:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I am really surprised!

This is the first big marketing misstep Arte has made. I wonder if he even knows about it? Remember when he heard about the rat problem? He reacted, and swiftly.

We need to get this in front of him somehow. For the Angels to tape delay ST games on Arte's own station! is frankly unbelievable.

Let's keep up the pressure to every outlet we can. Does Angels' communications have an e-mail address?

C'mon Ninja - get us one more bat!

by halofan91 on Feb 28, 2008 5:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Tim Mead email (& others)

here: http://pressbox.mlb.com/pressbox/contacts/index.jsp?content=AL

by jane doe on Feb 29, 2008 8:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

works for me

Im not off work till six anyway. Sorry guys, no complaints from me :]

by AlohaHalofan on Feb 28, 2008 6:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I listened on mlb.com

sucks that it isn't on the radio though...

"There's an old saying: 50 percent of what's going to happen, you have no control over. And the other 50 percent is going to happen anyway." -- Arte Moreno

by K3YEROUT on Feb 28, 2008 6:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Seriously?

MLB.com was airing whatever crap was playing on 830. You must have been listening to another stream somehow.

No good .sig goes unpunished.

by scareduck on Feb 28, 2008 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

No it wasn't

MLB.com was playing the game.
830 was playing/streaming some talkshow crap.

The stream was defintely talkshow. Over-the-air, I couldn't tell... the radio in my office got more static than signal.

Great move, Arte, try to rebrand for LA, and then move your broadcasts to a station that you can't get in LA.

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Feb 29, 2008 9:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

KLAA

should come in fine in L.A. Looking at its coverage map, the only underserved areas appear to be the northernmost reaches of the county.

by jjackflash on Feb 29, 2008 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Daytime, yes

Nighttime, no.

". . .and the young lions will lock horns!" -- Ron Fairly, from an Angels telecast

by rspencer on Feb 29, 2008 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Extreme North West LA County

Specifically, Chatsworth.

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Mar 1, 2008 8:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

So does this mean that we'll soon see

fantasy spring training leagues? About as exciting as the combine if you're not there. I can't imagine it getting much of a radio audience.

by melvintoast on Feb 28, 2008 8:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I am so desperate for baseball...

I'll listen!

C'mon Ninja - get us one more bat!

by halofan91 on Feb 28, 2008 9:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What a bitter disappointment

About the only thing that gets me through the long winter is the anticipation of March days doing the Spring chores and listening to baseball. Crappy streaming Internet audio doesn't get it done; it's like listening through a sea shell.

When Arte bought KLAA, I assumed it was to have a radio outlet in which the Angels had top priority. I think we all did. To discover that brokered radio programs, mere infomercials, were to take precedence makes me wonder why he bought the station in the first place. For all its faults, at least KSPN played every inning of every game in real time. Are Ducks broadcasts to take precedence during the regular season?

If "contractual obligations" are the problem, then Arte should not have entered into such contracts. If he needs such contracts to make the station pay, then he shouldn't have left KSPN.

It's a great disappointment to me that Arte obviously does not take radio seriously as an outlet for the team.

The thing is, when he changed the call letters to KLAA, he raised our expectations unrealistically. If he'd changed them to K$$$, then we'd have known to expect this.

". . .and the young lions will lock horns!" -- Ron Fairly, from an Angels telecast

by rspencer on Feb 28, 2008 11:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I hear you....This is BULL SHIT

I thought the same thing. I though KLAA ment that the LA ANGELS OF ANAHEIM were going to be the top priority.

Everyone that goes to SPRING TRAINING this year, If you see Arte tell him, "WHAT THE FUCK ARTURO? WHY THE HELL ARE WE NOT GETTING THE ANGELS BROADCASTS LIVE ON KLAA. ALL US FANS THOUGHT THE STATION WOULD MAKE THE ANGELS THE PRIORITY SINCE YOU NAMED IT AFTER THEM. THIS SHIT BETTER CHANGE NOW BECAUSE YOU ARE LOOSING ALOT OF LISTENERS BY DELAYING THE GAMES UNTIL 6PM. SHIT IF YOU WANT YOU CAN PLAY THEM BOTH LIVE AND DELAYED SINCE IT IS YOUR STATION, ISNT IT?"

Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by acuda27 on Feb 28, 2008 11:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

MAJOR LEAGUE

There are still a few critical things that separate the Angels form the Dodgers in terms of operating as an elite franchise.

This is one more.

I am sure it is just growing pains for the new station and sorting things out, let's cut them slack this season but not next...

by Rev Halofan on Feb 29, 2008 1:03 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I salute your forbearance, but . . .

I'd be more inclined to agree with you had KLAA and the Angels not carefully hidden this situation from us until it became patently obvious, and then offered lame excuses for it. This is far too reminiscent of their handling of the rat problem for me to give them the benefit of the doubt this time. I am troubled by the impression that Arte is not as fan-oriented as he'd like us to believe. I don't mean to be contentious, but this really bothers me greatly.

Even if you are entirely accurate in your assessment, however, I believe it is important to make it crystal-clear to Angels management that this is not okay.

". . .and the young lions will lock horns!" -- Ron Fairly, from an Angels telecast

by rspencer on Feb 29, 2008 2:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

At least WEEKEND games are LIVE on KLAA

It could have been worse.

Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by acuda27 on Feb 29, 2008 2:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

update from Tim Mead

Not much help when I'm on the road or otherwise w/out internet access .. but it's something:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/angels/la-sp-angels29feb29,1,4761410.story?ctrack=2&c set=true

"The Angels received a number of e-mails Thursday from fans who are upset that the new radio home of the team, 830, is broadcasting spring-training games on a tape-delayed basis, with afternoon games airing in the evening.

The games are streamed live on the team's website, but listeners must pay a subscription fee to access the broadcasts. Tim Mead, Angels vice president of communications, says the team is working on a plan that would enable fans to access the Internet broadcasts for free."

by jane doe on Feb 29, 2008 8:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Nice!

But that seems highly unlikely unless the team foots the bill.

We'll be fine.

by ReggieBullits on Feb 29, 2008 8:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

and...

even if they do, it probably won't be instituted for a week or two.. it will practically be opening day!

Bah!

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by sipperphoto on Feb 29, 2008 9:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

and and . . .

what good does that do for one who has already ponied up for Gameday Audio?

I like Tim Mead, but this is just burnt fries (i.e., doing something ineffective or senseless to mask one's unwillingness or inability to do something meaningful).

And and and: this reaction from fans could not possibly have come as a surprise to the Angels front office, which strongly suggests that they don't really give a crap.

". . .and the young lions will lock horns!" -- Ron Fairly, from an Angels telecast

by rspencer on Feb 29, 2008 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Here is why the games are delayed..

I received a reply from the Angels beat writer for the OC register, Bill Plunkett.
He said that when the Angels bought KLAA/830, they assumed the contracts of syndicated radio programs and cannot pre-empt the afternoon programs.
He also mentioned that live spring training games are a rarity. I guess it is a luxury we will have to do without this spring....

by HowTheGrichStoleChristmas on Feb 29, 2008 1:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Any indication if these obligations

will affect regular-season games?

(Nine day games in April will require pre-empting the Doyle and/or Savage programs.)

by jane doe on Feb 29, 2008 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

Wasn't the station all-Spanish language when Arte bought it?

Also, don't they have syndication contracts with the programs airing after 6 PM?

Are we then to understand that all day games will be tape-delayed, even during the season? And what about the Ducks games? Are they going to take precedence during the regular season too?

I think I smell a rat. And not a Rally Rat, either. What they say does not ring true. And even if it were, if they had been dealing with us fans in good faith they wouldn't have kept it such a deep dark secret until 2 PM Thursday.

Bill Plunkett is a beat writer, not a fan advocate. He needs to stay on good terms with team management. So of course he's going to swallow the Angel Kool-Aid. Live spring training games a rarity? Well, they've been standard operating procedure for the Angels as far back as their first year on KLAC, as I recall. Jerk.

". . .and the young lions will lock horns!" -- Ron Fairly, from an Angels telecast

by rspencer on Feb 29, 2008 2:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

On second thought

I really shouldn't Call Bill Plunkett a jerk. Sorry.

Angels 2008: The "A" Team, The "B" Station

by rspencer on Feb 29, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

In his defense...

he answers emails I send to him quickly. Seems like a nice fellow.

I tend to think you were shooting the messenger here. He was lobbying on our behalf yesterday after I hit him real early about the AM830 problems.

Let's go, Spiezio!

by Downing Rules on Feb 29, 2008 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Right, more or less

Which is why I repented. What he said sounded condescending at first read, but upon reflection I realized that he was being nice by replying to you directly, and just passing on an observation. Moreover, I knew nothing about his lobbying efforts on our behalf. Kudos to you for putting him on the case.

Even so, I'd like to see a reporter be a bit more skeptical, especially when skepticism is so eloquently called for.

Angels 2008: The "A" Team, The "B" Station

by rspencer on Feb 29, 2008 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Conservative talk radio

is a good business. (I don't know the format, but the two or three names I've heard mentioned are conservative talk show hosts).

Let's remember that Arte's a good businessman. I'm sure he didn't buy the station to lose money.

Someone said that they are going to try to get the games streamed on the internet. That'll work.....

I'm confident something will be worked out. I'm more concerned about the coercion used by MLB.com to get us to pay for gameday audio. That's all manipulation.

by wumbug on Feb 29, 2008 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sure, it's Arte's call

It's his station, and his team. And I'm all for making money, and for conservative talk radio.

But it strains credulity to say that he was forced into this situation--because it's his station, and his team.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, please, but wasn't 830 AM all Spanish when he bought the station? Isn't it all English now? If this is true, then none of the current contracts could have been inherited when he bought the station.

Therefore, since Arte is a good businessman, we must assume that he did not unwittingly commit elsewhere time that he intended to dedicate to Angels spring baseball. In other words, this situation was formulated intentionally, not accidentally or inadvertently. They chose to do this, despite the certain displeasure of their most ardent fans.

One can only assume that they chose to do this in order to maximize station income; no one is going to convince me that KLAA would actually run a deficit by broadcasting Angels ST games at the same time they are played. Put another way, when presented with a choice between making some money while serving the fans on the one hand, and making more money while disregarding the fans on the other, he made the latter choice.

Now, Arte is perfectly within his rights to do this, but he can't have it both ways. He can't do this and at the same time say that he is a benevolent, fan-oriented owner.

That's why I'm not letting go of this thing so easily. If they had been straightforward about this decision from the start, then I'd bitch once and then move on. But the team management is not acting in good faith with us fans here, and after the rat fiasco, they have lost the benefit of the doubt. I'm tired of the team management treating its fans as if they were rubes.

I'm not sure why you assign the blame for this to MLB.com. We wouldn't have to pay for Gameday Audio to hear the game in real time if KLAA were broadcasting them that way. They may be in cahoots, sure, but I'm sure they don't provide Gameday Audio to lose money.

Angels 2008: The "A" Team, The "B" Station

by rspencer on Feb 29, 2008 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

THESE ARE SPRING GAMES RELAX

As a longtime Angel fan, the inconvenience of he occasional unbroadcast game is a recent memory. Enjoy your seat on the bandwagon despite these minor inconveniences.

by Rev Halofan on Mar 1, 2008 2:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Time out

You aren't calling me a bandwagoner, are you?

Angels 2008: The A Team, The AA Station

by rspencer on Mar 1, 2008 6:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Okay, then

Your silence infers a "yes" to my question.

So be it! The Rev has spoken: I am a bandwagoner. I'll adjust my sig accordingly.

Bandwagoner since 1969

by rspencer on Mar 2, 2008 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Bandwagoner????

See my sig

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Mar 2, 2008 8:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Don't know for sure

I assume that the obligations will not affect regular season games but I don't know for sure. Also there may be good news on live broadcasts for spring training games to be announced soon... keep your fingers crossed....

by HowTheGrichStoleChristmas on Feb 29, 2008 2:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Maybe if well all pay enough

The contracts thing is a cop out. IMO.
I cant get internet at work and ALOT of people cant. Thats not a fix.

Its simple play the games live on another station or preempt the talk shows. Till then Im boycotting all sponsors on KLAA. I will post a list others should boycott them to, Atie understands money lets show him Angel fans effect money.

by SFV88 on Feb 29, 2008 6:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

THESE ARE SPRING GAMES RELAX

As a longtime Angel fan, the inconvenience of he occasional unbroadcast game is a recent memory. Enjoy your seat on the bandwagon despite these minor inconveniences.

by Rev Halofan on Mar 1, 2008 2:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That's two times

The Bandwagon comment is as condecending a reply as it gets. Nice.

People have every right to complain. You said it yourself before. If the Angels truly want to be elite, they broadcast all games live. Not every spring game has to be a money maker, ad-wise. Each broadcast should be looked upon either as investing in the fan base or their own ad for the team as a whole.

Moreno owns the station. He could change this if he wants, even if there were existing contracts, which I don't believe for a minute there was, these programs weren't there when he purchased.

by beercub on Mar 1, 2008 7:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry kid

Ive been a Angel fan b4 they were even in Ana-slime.
Spring games have been broadcast for as long as I can remember. Its also the ONLY time I get to hear about alot of players. As by your snide worded poll your very alone thinking, not broadcasting spring games are no big deal. To real fans who like to hear our team it is.

by SFV88 on Mar 1, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs