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Bitching Angels Blogger or Conniving Minor League Cartel?

I can see both sides of the story in the current imbroglio between the FutureAngels blogger and the Salt Lake Bees. The blogger wanted to be treated like the press but sell the images he gathered from this press access. The team wants to control who profits from its product.

As THIS maudlin, self-aggrandizing bitch-fest attests to, the thinnest-skinned blogger on Earth has a high opinion of his contributions to the Angels’ organization. But much like MLB’s current fight in the courts to control everyday fans’ use of players’ stats in Fantasy Leagues without paying a licensing fee, the monopoly-first attitude of professional baseball seems unfairly aimed at fans making an occasional buck off the game they too love.

You can extrapolate this dilemma both ways - I recall a bootleg recorder at a Bob Dylan insisting I not howl out loud during any songs, but I am disappointed at some of the Dylan concert bootlegs I own with non-stop crowd chatter during some amazing performances.

We all buy a ticket for the game, but does that give US the right to merchandise the experience for all 9 innings? What if a camera crew with live web-video feeds were sitting in front of you at the stadium, standing up incessantly to get the plays on-camera, blocking your view while making money off of their broadcast? Suppose the team couldn’t make them leave since they had bought a ticket.

On the other end, is MLB going to charge me a licensing fee to enter the stadium wearing a game-used jersey? If Pepsi pays to be the official soft drink of baseball, are they going to make me take off a Coca-Cola tee-shirt before entering the stadium?

The Salt Lake Bees stand to make a few thousand dollars off of the images they take of their team and their players, tops. One homely blogger on a road trip might squeeze a few hundred bucks out of a roll of film (ha, dated terminology!) over a few years. The organization is enforcing access to its team with zeal – at least when it smells someone using “press” access to make a buck. The issue comes back to being about the confounding grey line that blogs present as “press” in the traditional sense.

Do most blogs just want access only to whore out that access as proof of legitimacy and/or exclusivity?

Why isn’t the FutureAngel blogger just happy taking pictures in the stands? Because they are not as good as pictures one can take from the field. Why is the press granted access to the field? Because they will not be competing with a team to make money off of the imagery gathered there – although one has to wonder how many thousand dollars the Orange County Register made off of issues of the newspaper it sold the day after the Angels’ World Series victory complete with all the photos taken from the great access provided to it by the team.

If Mister FutureAngel had spread more goodwill around the message boards and the halosphere over the years, he wouldn’t be so bitter and so segregated now. His shrillness leaves him virtually friendless in his hour of need. But if MLB wins its appeal to the supreme court to control the use of stats by fans, FA’s whining will be a drop in the bucket of bitching that will erupt at the MLB cartel trying to control what the fans pay for when they pay for baseball.

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Who is more correct:
Future Angels wanting access because of continued earnest effort
25 votes
Salt Lake Bees controlling the integrity of its product and its press access
54 votes

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...and by the way...

the Future Angels guy has his blog on MLB blogs so this is proof that those folks do not get preferential treatment.

by Rev Halofan on Apr 13, 2008 6:54 PM PDT   0 recs

I say let Stephen do his thing. It isn't about taking pictures to sell, but more about MLB trying to regulate everything from A-Z from the Major to the minor leagues.

If some of these 'rules' applied to us or conflicted what we did, we'd be bitching as well.

As is, it doesn't apply to us, so we say 'oh go play by the rules, they aren't so bad and they are there in place to protect a brand, an entity.'

by BBFan1 on Apr 13, 2008 7:03 PM PDT   0 recs

In his defense

They did kind of screw him, assuming his story is true. If they told him multiple times it was OK to do it, then changed their mind a few days before, that sucks.

by LA Seitz on Apr 13, 2008 7:26 PM PDT   0 recs

knowing him though, even if they had golden-handshaked him this time he still would have been in full-on martyr mode.

by Rev Halofan on Apr 13, 2008 8:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry. The dude's a rube.

By his own admission, he knew that what he was doing was in violation of known rules. Getting away with it through preferential treatment is living on borrowed time, not some assurance of any right. That the door finally closed while he had some money on the line merely triggered all the rationalizations he subsequently spewed.

I think the photo on his cover page, of him in a uni, gives it all away. He has come to feel that he is part of the program.

by Stirrups on Apr 13, 2008 7:40 PM PDT   0 recs

Agreed

It seems like he thinks that the Bees owe him something. Because they let him take pictures in the past, he is entitled to continue to do that. Sure people told him this year that it was okay, but ultimately MLB/MiLB should have the say in what they allow people to make money off of. I don't understand why he doesn't try to go "legit" and apply to be a photographer/corespondent for the club. That would just make sense to me if he likes what he did with the team so much.

Help the bullpen - Trade Quinlan and Pys
Go Angels!

by Erik121 on Apr 13, 2008 7:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

taking pictures of buff dudes in their 20s (not there is anything wrong with it) does not pay too well.

by Rev Halofan on Apr 13, 2008 8:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah he won't want to be busted by the post office...

Help the bullpen - Trade Quinlan and Pys
Go Angels!

by Erik121 on Apr 13, 2008 8:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think that the larger issue here is that they told him he could do it.

Then nixed the deal after he'd already spent money for the air-fare (and for that matter, didn't tell him about it. He found out by chance). If they don't want him to do it, fine. But don't tell him that he can do it only a month before hand, then change your mind without informing him. Say what you want about him, one thing that's clear is that guy doesn't make money off this whole Future Angels thing. Personally, I've never found him to be all that bad a guy, and I've never understood the hostility by other people in the Angels blogosphere towards him.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Apr 14, 2008 6:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

But since he doesn't have a contract or type of employement with the team

I feel they reserve the right to change their minds. It least that makes sense to me.

Help the bullpen - Trade Quinlan and Pys
Go Angels!

by Erik121 on Apr 14, 2008 10:15 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Good Point

Did the correct person in the Salt Lake front office work with him start to finish?

by Rev Halofan on Apr 14, 2008 10:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think he's questioning the legality of it.

I'm arguing that he has a good reason for being pissed off. He's been doing it for years, they told him he could do it this year multiple times, and then they abruptly decide not to do it, and don't even tell him, leaving him to absorb a $300 loss. Within their rights? Sure. But it's still a douchebag move, and anybody would get mad over something like that.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Apr 14, 2008 11:09 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Post a well-reasoned disagreement with his posts and the bad vibes are worse than even bullyswin.com's level of spite and ridicule for anyone who dare have their own opinion.

by Rev Halofan on Apr 14, 2008 10:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

With respect, I've disagreed with him several times in comments on his website

And I've never gotten a response I would consider disrespectful or haughty.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Apr 14, 2008 11:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

you got to the party late. He was allegedly tracking ISPs of those he disagreed with in 2001-ish and reporting people who posted from work to their bosses.

by Rev Halofan on Apr 14, 2008 3:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, if true,

That would definitely qualify as a douchebag move itself. But "allegedly" sounds like there's a lack of proof, and even then it would depend on the nature of the "disagreement" (ie. was he being harrassed by said disagreer?) I can really only judge him by what I've witnessed, and certainly, holding something he MIGHT have done 7 years ago against him seems a little overboard as far as internet grudges go.

Hell, I don't think I've ever managed to hold a grudge online for more than a week. It's just not worth the mental effort.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Apr 14, 2008 4:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

it really piled up there for a while and then everyone just ignored him long enough that he grew his teeth back.

by Rev Halofan on Apr 14, 2008 5:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Stephen Smith

simply doesn't get along well with others. Hell, a decade ago on Usenet, I was the only guy who could stand him, and even he and I agreed maybe 3% of the time. He stopped responding to people he didn't like, and before long simply had no one to talk to.

I haven't read his diatribe here, and his services were valuable in the web's younger days, but ... I can't help but side with the team.

The worst thing is the day you realize you want to win more than the players do. -Gene Mauch

by Chronicles on Apr 14, 2008 10:38 AM PDT   0 recs

Bottom Line

The organization shouldn't have changed their mind on such short notice. Obviously, they can do whatever they want and were perfectly within their legal rights to deny him a press pass, but it was poor form to do it three days before.

Now he needs to just deal with it.

I don't understand the animosity towards Smith. He doesn't seem any more bitter and self-aggrandizing than a lot of bloggers. Sometimes people who are too much alike have trouble getting along.

by Dogman on Apr 14, 2008 11:44 AM PDT   0 recs

(repeated)

you got to the party late. He was allegedly tracking ISPs of those he disagreed with in 2001-ish and reporting people who posted from work to their bosses.

by Rev Halofan on Apr 14, 2008 3:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Meh

Stephen is cranky and obstinate and defensive about the Angels' front office. But I think he's probably right on this one, seeing as how there's a history here, and moreover he got permission to do what he's done every year.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Apr 14, 2008 1:10 PM PDT   0 recs

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