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Torii stirring the pot

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Has-baseball-lost-the-meaning-of-Jackie-Robinson?urn=mlb,76568

A little blurb on Torii commenting on the Jackie Robinson #42 tribute. Pretty interesting comments and I see where hes coming from. The comments from all the user beneath are pretty interesting. A bunch of white guys outraged that a black player has a legitimate problem with the treatment of Jackie's legacy, or lack there of. Worth a read

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Good find

For tomorrow
Mets: All players will wear 42 (Last year only Manager Willie Randolph did)

Giants: Ray Durham will wear 42 (Last year only Barry did)

After reading what Torii said I kinda agree with him. I think Junior was in the right in asking to wear the number, but when all of the teams getting involved things can get crazy if they start to think of it as a publicity thing. I think it does make it seem more of a cool thing to wear the number rather than a tribute. I am sure that with almost a full slate today, we will hear what each team is doing as the day goes on.

I'm interested to see if GMJ wears the 42 again or if it takes a different direction.

The most important thing needs to still be to honor what Jackie Robinson and his family did for baseball.

Help the bullpen - Trade Quinlan and Pys
Go Angels!

by Erik121 on Apr 14, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Curious...

Is there a team out there with more blacks in starting positions then the Angels?

by Sweetmeats on Apr 14, 2008 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Not the Boston Red Sox

The lights are growing dim Otto. I know a life of crime has led me to this sorry fate, and yet, I blame society. Society made me what I am.

Otto: That's bullshit. You're a white suburban punk just like me.

Duke: Yeah, but it still hurts.

by PieceOfAase on Apr 14, 2008 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

the angels are leading the league in blacks!

GA, Howie, Oliver, Hunter, Matthews, and Figgins.

john RIP samo

by angels4adam on Apr 14, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

you mean... African Americans...

because last time I saw, Vlad and Aibar were pretty black too…

Show 'em your a panther... Show 'em what you can do....

by stuck in Romania on Apr 15, 2008 4:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

...and Santana

"Bloody your hands on a cactus tree/
Wipe it on your dress and send it to me."

by Hutch83 on Apr 15, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good for Torii.

It was interesting to hear his views on the Robinson tribute but I have to wonder why, when a black man speaks out, he is considered to be "stirring the pot" or causing trouble? Torii was being open and honest about his feelings and because they were something different from the Baseball Commissioner's views it is a controversy.

It was Ken Griffey Jr.'s idea to individually wear #42 to honor Jackie Robinson. Bud Selig thought it was a good idea and took it upon himself to "invite" everyone to wear #42 without any consulting from black players, managers, or staff. It's like Selig saying, "It's a party, everyone wear party hats!" This is where the issue got out of hand once Selig became the decider and yanked the tribute out of Griffey's hands. This is the point I think Torii was trying to make. Maybe Griffey should have stepped up and offered Selig some advice but who knows if he felt he was in a position to do that.

I agree with Torii's assesment of the all white Astros wearing the #42 patch on face value, if the Astros players were told/ordered to wear them. If the players individualy wanted to honor Robinson and collectively decided as a team to wear the patch then I think they have the right to do so.

Scioscia, "Roll the hole!"

by 44FAN on Apr 14, 2008 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

That's incorrect...

It was Selig's idea to allow for the celebration of an idea, a milestone in /baseball/ not just a race, and for everyone to participate. For one person to speak out and say that a group of people (the Astros) cannot participate simply because they are not part of the group originally represented (blacks et al) should raise alarming red flags to you.

A more apropos analogy would be to say it was Selig inviting everyone to a party, whereas some of those invited to his house are telling other people they're not allowed to come.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Apr 14, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think Torii was saying they cannot or should not participate.

I think he was questioning their sincerity.

Scioscia, "Roll the hole!"

by 44FAN on Apr 14, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

What did GA do last year?

I can't remember or find it on the web.

Sea-at-ha-ha-ha that's funny.

by hauldog on Apr 14, 2008 3:51 PM PDT reply actions  

IIRC

he opted out of doing it on the day of tribute, but let GMJ do it.

Here's the last thing I remember about it: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070412&content_id=1894485&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

When Matthews pulls on No. 42 on Sunday in Boston, flipping the numbers normally on the back of his jersey, Anderson will offer his full support -- and remember Robinson in his own way, as he did when he began to come of age as a young man developing a talent for the game Jackie changed on April 15, 1947, when he graced the Brooklyn Dodgers' lineup for the first time.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Apr 14, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks man.

I remember this ruffled some peoples feathers, but seemed like a non-issue to me.

Sea-at-ha-ha-ha that's funny.

by hauldog on Apr 14, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Torii

has a right to his opinion. It might have even changed since he initially said it. But at the end of the day...so what !

Stay on the damn bag!!

by higdog on Apr 14, 2008 4:10 PM PDT reply actions  

How long...

before Al Sharpton creates a Halos Heaven user account to inject himself in this thread?

by Higz on Apr 14, 2008 4:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Ebony and Ivory
The Angels and Rangers are among the nine clubs whose entire rosters will wear No. 42 today in celebration of Jackie Robinson Day.

Originally, seven Angels - Gary Matthews Jr., Torii Hunter, Darren Oliver, Garret Anderson, Guerrero, Figgins and Kendrick - intended to wear No. 42 today.

But late last week, General Manager Tony Reagins called pitcher John Lackey, the team’s union representative, to suggest the entire team wear No. 42.

“He welcomed it,” Reagins said. “What Jackie meant to this game is historical, and we’re honoring that.”

la-torii.com

Future Angels Yard Sale fodder…?

by Bilko 420 on Apr 15, 2008 9:30 AM PDT reply actions  

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