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Props to Batista for his glove and dealing today.  

Sunburn Sunday Blame:  Dustin Moseley.  Due to overwhelming demand:  GA.

Here's to a safe and successful road trip.  According to The Grand Phyzzard the Angels have not won a series against Boston since 2001.

 

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Think that GA got jobbed on the called 3rd strike.

Me does.

One more inning with that Mariners bullpen and the Angels win that game.

by cupie on Apr 20, 2008 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

much too close to take with the game on the line

and on the Mariners broadcast the “fox box” or what ever the hell they call it showed ti right on the outside corner. Way too close to take in that sit.

I am a fair weather fan so the Angels better win!

by Halo84653 on Apr 20, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

totally, still looks weak to end the game with the bat sitting on your shoulders

angels should have got to batista sooner and than let that bullpen implode
also how does aybar not get the call that bubble-butt ichiro gets

Steal 2nd or die trying

by UCIHalo on Apr 20, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

DVR Sez: Strike 3. Total strike. Not even close.

Jojima set up outside, but Smith’s pitch start well inside and GA froze up, flinching away, as the ball curved back across the meat of the inside of the plate, right at thigh height.

No friggin’ way you not swing at that, in any situation. Much less to protect your at-bat with the tying run in scoring position with 2 outs in the 9th!!

by Stirrups on Apr 20, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually according to the FSN NW K tracker

that was the only true strike he saw! Basically in the middle of the plate at the bottom of the zone!

There's an old saying: 50 percent of what's going to happen, you have no control over. And the other 50 percent is going to happen anyway." -- Arte Moreno

by K3YEROUT on Apr 20, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blame=GA all the way

The Angels 2 3 4 hitters are not getting it done and today is a prime example of it. Mosely was not all that bad. The fact that we were shut out for 8 innings was the problem

I am a fair weather fan so the Angels better win!

by Halo84653 on Apr 20, 2008 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

honorable mention

GA: providing no protection for vlad, ending the game with the bases the loaded and the bat on his shoulders

Steal 2nd or die trying

by UCIHalo on Apr 20, 2008 4:31 PM PDT reply actions  

on a positive note

the bullpen is coming around and izzy had a good couple of days

Steal 2nd or die trying

by UCIHalo on Apr 20, 2008 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

GA this time.

He was in a position to win or lose this game.

Scioscia, "Roll the hole!"

by 44FAN on Apr 20, 2008 4:33 PM PDT reply actions  

if GA wasn't a veteran who has done so much for this franchise

he would have been pitch hit for so fast

Steal 2nd or die trying

by UCIHalo on Apr 20, 2008 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Me too. I was screaming for that!

Hunter is hotter than pistols right now. Right handed batter facing the lefty reliever. Bejeebus.

by Stirrups on Apr 20, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

good point

hunter would be the one guy that would justify the move. any other guy on that bench no way in heck you pinch hit

Steal 2nd or die trying

by UCIHalo on Apr 20, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Precisely. Exactly what I was screaming.

I left the stadium muttering “Can’t wait until 2010. Can’t wait until 2010…”

by Stirrups on Apr 20, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

you wont have to wait that long

with the surplus of OF no way the halos pick up GA’s option

Steal 2nd or die trying

by UCIHalo on Apr 20, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think hunter at least makes contact and was the better option

scioscia will just have to take this game into consideration the next time a similar situation comes around

Steal 2nd or die trying

by UCIHalo on Apr 20, 2008 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Good game and good series, guys.

Hopefully a pre-playoff matchup.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on Apr 20, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice

Who woulda thought that you’d be the level headed SEA fan here :P

Chart it up! Game on!

by scottnak on Apr 20, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I saw how the TheOptimist and Eyebrows

are good sports on LL, even when the Angels lose, and I think “You know, what’s the point of trolling? It’s stupid.” and so I’ve changed.

Cheeseburgers are delicious.

by Coach Owens on Apr 20, 2008 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey!

I am too. Coach and I are historic youngins at LL.

by qrsouther on Apr 20, 2008 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

You go by the handle butthol..

...and have a small rodent as your avatar. What are we meant to read into this?

I see red people

by The Limey on Apr 21, 2008 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cupie lovin' GA again.

BOTG goes to GA, not Mosely. The Halos left 11 runners on base. 6 of those were GA’s. GA went 1 for friggin’ 5 with 1 meaningless single.

Moseley was not a stud today, by any means, but he held the M’s close enough to be dealt with, shich is all you can ask for the 5th starter.

by Stirrups on Apr 20, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I feel like Garret has to be the BOTG

He left a lot of people on base. Gotta score people to win.

Overall though, I don’t really care about this one. Batista owns us (last year he pitched a 9 inning shutout vs a Kelvim Escobar 2-run effort) for reasons that I can only assume involve chickens sacrificed by the light of the full moon. Moseley is not a particularly good starting pitcher. Today was the game we were probably going to lose.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Apr 20, 2008 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

GA for BOTG

6 LOB through the game, a lousy single in the 9th would have tied the game. Mosley pitched as well as we could have expected from our 8th best starting pitcher against Seattle’s best pitcher last year.

by BoulderBrian on Apr 20, 2008 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Interesting

we won a series against Boston in ‘07. August 6th-8th.

We won one AT Boston in ‘06. July 28-30th.

Phyz is an idiot.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 20, 2008 4:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Ah, perhaps then

but to be fair, we did split in ‘05, and we’ve played a disproportionate number of road games against them in that time.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 20, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

GA = BOTG!

Does anyone truly expect anything more than 5-6 IP and 4 ER per game from Moseley? He held Sea to 4 ER in a day game at Ana. I think most of us will take that from him.

There's an old saying: 50 percent of what's going to happen, you have no control over. And the other 50 percent is going to happen anyway." -- Arte Moreno

by K3YEROUT on Apr 20, 2008 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Anderson, can't be anyone else

6 LOB and caught looking to end the game with the bases loaded

I see red people

by The Limey on Apr 20, 2008 5:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Fangraphs agrees

-.258 WPA. I was amazed, even, but then, WPA will tend to overrate closers just as it tends to overrate these kinds of events.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Apr 20, 2008 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

SLC wins again 5-0; is now 16-1

Adenhart 6 IP 4 H 0 ER 3 BB 5 K 1.17 ERA
Brown 1-4, 2 RBI, HR and is hitting .413

There's an old saying: 50 percent of what's going to happen, you have no control over. And the other 50 percent is going to happen anyway." -- Arte Moreno

by K3YEROUT on Apr 20, 2008 5:22 PM PDT reply actions  

That is just awesome

How much longer they can keep this shite up, I have no idea, but they’re unstoppable right now.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Apr 20, 2008 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rowland-Smith

Lead singers for Tears for Fears.

by cupie on Apr 20, 2008 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Finally saw the strike 3 call on G.A.

pretty shitty call…not surprised he didn’t swing.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 20, 2008 6:02 PM PDT reply actions  

BS

See my post above. It was thigh-high, catching at least 2 inches of the inside part of the plate. GA got fooled, looking for something about 2 feet further outside.

by Stirrups on Apr 20, 2008 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

looks to me like when it crossed it was too low

strike zones are never called with any consistency, and in my extremely frequently baseball viewing, pitches that low generally ain’t called.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 20, 2008 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was a wide strike zone today

But that was still a perfect strike at the knees, pretty close to the middle of the plate. Gameday has it there too. Maybe the late break on the slider made it look a little lower than it was at the end, but I don’t think there’s really any doubt about it when you watch the replay. It was just an awesome slider that GA got horribly fooled on. And to be honest, GA struck out on the pitch before that one anyways if the 3rd base ump had been paying attention.

I’m surprised you guys aren’t madder at Scioscia for not PHing Torii Hunter in that situation, GA should never have been up there in that situation to begin with.

by Notor on Apr 20, 2008 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Half of us have given up.

We realize that Sosh’s man-crush for his veterans precludes any realistic expectation that he would sit down GA in that situation, however obvious it might appear to the rest of humanity (after all, Torii was merely .500 in the first two games of the series, bats right, and is hitting nearly 100 points higher than GA). We just hold it as an inner burn. We have to take the bad with the good.

Plus, it’s not worth the wrath of the other half around here, who have their GA love always near at hand, where it is easy to club us once every two weeks when GA actually does come through…

by Stirrups on Apr 20, 2008 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

A couple days ago he was the hero

‘my side’ is no more prone to boasting about his successes than ‘your side’ is to overplaying his failures. It just so happens that, even with the best player in baseball, 70% of the time, people boasting of a player’s failures are gonna have evidence to support their claim by the very nature of the game.

I don’t rub in his achievements with the club anymore than the G.A. haters love to practically throw a party in honor of G.A.’s failures when they come. It was as recently as the last 4 months of last season that he was arguably the hottest hitter in our lineup. He started slow last year, too. Any G.A. over-love on this board is vastly overshadowed by the short-term memory loss and antipathy of the G.A. hate club, of which I will never be a member.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 20, 2008 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

G.A.

I’ve noticed the average Angels’ fan has warmed up to him a little, but there is still a constant core who doesn’t like him for whatever reason, dating back to ‘he’s lazy’ day and they still dog him at times when he is a little lax on defense or at the plate.

They are ready to turn on him when he doesn’t come through and begrudingly give him credit [or casually ignore mentioning his name] when he does do well.

As an Angels’ fan, I just want to see him do well, but some times just to shut the haters up i.e. the same with K-Rod.

by BBFan1 on Apr 21, 2008 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think folks "hate" GA

I would love to see GA do well…and I think that every Angel fan wants to see that!

I think there is a growing lot that dislikes watching him flail miserably! He is in a big funk and there were better RH options on the bench yesterday. It was fun to see him excel in the 2nd half last season. That kind of production is what it is going to take for folks to get off his back.

Imagine the backbreaker to the M’s that would have been to have had either GA do what he is paid to do or have Torii pinch hit yesterday and beat the M’s in the bottom 9? It was there for the taking….

There's an old saying: 50 percent of what's going to happen, you have no control over. And the other 50 percent is going to happen anyway." -- Arte Moreno

by K3YEROUT on Apr 21, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two things

1st thing – Even the M’s fans are thanking Scioscia for not pinch-hitting for GA

2nd thing – If you watch the M’s telecasts on FSN, they put up the strike zone similar to the K zone. The last pitch was the only “true strike” that he saw! AND, it was right down the middle! On the low side, but in the middle of the plate. The first called strike was not close!

There's an old saying: 50 percent of what's going to happen, you have no control over. And the other 50 percent is going to happen anyway." -- Arte Moreno

by K3YEROUT on Apr 20, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

USSM is lame

Sea-at-ha-ha-ha that's funny.

by hauldog on Apr 20, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Read my post(s) following that one

my gripe is not with the call specifically, but the inconsistency of calls.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 20, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

.

I LOVE YOU G.A. :(

by miantifaz on Apr 20, 2008 7:24 PM PDT reply actions  

GA has got to go

He’s been good in the past, but we’ve just been carrying him ever since his illness several years ago.

by Coach Dawg on Apr 20, 2008 7:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

we totally just carried him throughout his godawful 2007.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Apr 20, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

and yet, only 2 days ago

he was Panther and everyone’s hero.

by ladybug on Apr 20, 2008 7:48 PM PDT reply actions  

He WAS Panther 2 days ago

And anyone who is talking about “GA needs to go” is a moron. Take a look at David Ortiz’ numbers sometime. It’s early still.

At the same time, as I said earlier, he seems like the biggest blame candidate. Gotta take your lumps when the team loses and you’re the guy who had the best chance to see that they won.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Apr 20, 2008 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cuz he gave himself a chance by taking the bat off his shoulder!

There's an old saying: 50 percent of what's going to happen, you have no control over. And the other 50 percent is going to happen anyway." -- Arte Moreno

by K3YEROUT on Apr 20, 2008 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It seems like

Moseley didn’t bury the team in the hole, but he didn’t get off to a good start either.

It seems like when an Angels starter has a less than stellar outing, fans will nitpick at something else that happened in the game as opposed to blaming the starter. When the starter does well, he’s panther all the way.

by BBFan1 on Apr 20, 2008 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

seems like the umpires

share some blame.

Inconsistent, bizarre and just terrible calls.

by ladybug on Apr 20, 2008 8:39 PM PDT reply actions  

BTW ladybug

hope you enjoyed that Cubbie slaughter of the wretched Buccos.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Apr 20, 2008 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Team offense and starting pitching.

1 extra base hit offense and gave up 4r-8h 4.2 inngings pitching. Rivera’s average dropped to .167, Nap was 0-4 with 3 SOs, and Anderson struck out with the winning run on third. Plus a lot of feeble grounders and a guy doubled up off 1st on a line drive.

On the Other hand, the Iz man is smokin’ over the past two games. I believe he may be back!

by vladtheimpaler on Apr 21, 2008 12:21 AM PDT reply actions  

torii shoulda been pinch hitting

the guy is freakin’ on fire and for the love of god GIVE MATHEWS A DAY OFF ALREADY! we need to keep our best players fresh lmao

If your a true Angel... Gary Mathews --you'll stare into the sun long enough to go blind.

by calikraze on Apr 21, 2008 7:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Rough Game...

I went to the game w/ my son and my cousin, and on the way home we stopped at the BevMo on Tustin, in Orange.

so did Vlad. was AWESOME. My son was wearing his vlad jersey, and I got some pics.

www.ocsportsgeeks.com

Vlad Daddy really is an AWESOME guy. Was completely humble, posed graciously for pics, and was great despite the language barrier. He seemed genuinely happy to see his number on my sons jersey. :)

by The OC Sports Geek on Apr 21, 2008 11:04 AM PDT reply actions  

lmao

vladdy, digging the southern comfort eh?

i guess he needed something to help him sleep on the flight to boston..

Here's to another season of baseball! Angels in '08!

by b0rd3rline on Apr 21, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

We need more guys like Vladdy

In all walks of life, not just sports.

I hope Vladdy wins the Clemente award this year.

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Apr 21, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's so cool

I go to that BevMo all the time! I wonder if he lives by there…i’d guess Villa Park(where I went to high school, btw) or maybe Peralta Hills if he does. Very, very cool pics. And nice blog to boot.

Whatever dude.

by Mayheminthehood on Apr 21, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

:)

Thanks on the props – - and Valddy lives in Anaheim Hills, at least, if memory serves.

Self-realization. I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "I drank what?"

The Geek.

by The OC Sports Geek on Apr 21, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

GA should be batting 8th

But too much for the veteran pride.

--
Kotch 魂!

by mjhsieh on Apr 21, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

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