Jose Arredondo

by Ajax on May 26, 2008 11:06 PM PDT Comment 41 comments

Did we just get a glimpse of Franky's replacment tonight? The kid has the stuff with his 95 mph fastball and developing split finger. It is going to be interesting to see how JA develops as a pitcher both physically and mentally while he is getting these types of opportunities.

I love Franky, and his stuff has looked a lot better in the past few weeks, but we sure could use the money that he's going to demand to put towards Vlad's heir apparent.

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I would hope not

It takes more than one good piece to have a shut down bullpen and Frankie is a good piece.

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

by hauldog on May 26, 2008 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

i think that's one idea

but personally, i think he’s 2 years away from closing, if Frankie walks.
he’ll definately be a set-up guy soon; he has late inning stuff.

ehh i dont really know… it all depends on the Frankie situation

Let Wood play!!!

by howiestheman on May 26, 2008 11:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

agreed

i thought about it yesterday..shields would absolutely close next year with arredondo a full time 7th or 8th inning guy.

But..

the one thing that worries me is the insubordination stuff from when he was in the minors. closer is a really volatile position and id be worried about him just losing it Derrick Turnbow/Brad Lidge style after one ugly blown save.

by ihearhowie2.0 on May 27, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, like the Rev said further down the page

if that wasnt fixed, he wouldn’t be up here right now.
the angels put a lot of stock in a player’s attitude.

Let Wood play!!!

by howiestheman on May 27, 2008 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Closer

has to be good consistantly over a long period of time or your taking a big, big, chance.

Angels Defense. Angels Pitching. Get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on May 26, 2008 11:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

frankie.....

is consistantly shaky…...every time he is in it seems like there is an adventure…..i would love to have a closer who just comes in and puts guys away, instead of putting them on the bases…......i dont care who it is….....shields…...JA…....frankie….....whoever

i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!

by norcaliangelsfan on May 27, 2008 12:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

That sub 1 ERA this month sure is scary........

for the opponents

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

by hauldog on May 27, 2008 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

sit back and enjoy the ride

because frankie gets the job done

by yeswecan on May 27, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nickname Nominee

Jose Uglymofo

by Rev Halofan on May 27, 2008 12:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I keep hoping he'll blow a meaningless fielding chance

so we can use Error-dondo

And how's the Chili Davis this evening?

by HaloDutch on May 27, 2008 6:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jose Arid-dildo.

"At some point, a veteran player will more often than not find his stroke. You just have to show them a little bit of patience."

by Downing Rules on May 27, 2008 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You should probably rethink that one.

Please go away Justin Speier. Your work here is done. And take Quinlan's half-inch fielding radius with you.

by ReggieBullits on May 27, 2008 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought again...

but came up with the same one. Any brighter ideas? The opposition will be afraid of a dry one.

"At some point, a veteran player will more often than not find his stroke. You just have to show them a little bit of patience."

by Downing Rules on May 27, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have a brighter idea

ky jelly will cure the “arid” part.

by Rev Halofan on May 27, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

how about jar of whoop-ass

J.Arr

by melvintoast on May 27, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dildo should be reserved for Vicente Padilldo

For obvious reasons.

by Higz on May 27, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Winner

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

by hauldog on May 27, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought he was simply...

ass wipe.

"At some point, a veteran player will more often than not find his stroke. You just have to show them a little bit of patience."

by Downing Rules on May 27, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"The Artist formerly known as Francisco De La Cruz" or Cisco Kid

by 44FAN on May 27, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

True test

Is to see how he bounces back from a rough outing. And he needs to show us that hitters can see him more than once and still not hit him.

by Sethy on May 27, 2008 8:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

His first batter faced was a HOMERUN

the next batter faced was a strikeout. That told me something about this kid.

But yeah, let’s see how he does in a larger sample size.

"At some point, a veteran player will more often than not find his stroke. You just have to show them a little bit of patience."

by Downing Rules on May 27, 2008 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agree

I think the mental/emotional makeup of a closer is one of the most important aspects. A closer has to be fearless and have a short memory.

One of Franky’s best qualities also comes back to bite him sometimes. He’s confident in all of his pitches in every situation—sometimes to a fault.

by Ajax on May 27, 2008 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You all need to face the facts

Since giving up his first major league homerun with his first ever pitch in the majors…hes been unstoppable. Just like Frankie was when he first came up.

Hes got my vote.

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on May 27, 2008 10:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

i'm not going to commit to either side of the argument

given krods situation and the way dondo is pitching, it feels good to know if he keeps it up he could make a solid replacement.

then again, he’s young. he could collapse in a month or two. at that point, no matter how much you love or hate krod, he does save games.

i’d like to think that if he stays at this level, or even slightly below, for the remainder of the season, and krod demands $15m to stay, dondo could get the job and be successful at it.

'dondo for closer in '09

by NoDakHalo on May 27, 2008 11:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Slightly ridiculous to be talking this way

1) K-Rod has been operating on a slightly gimpy ankle for most of the season. It’s clearly affected his velocity, as most of the time his heater is around 91, 89 if he’s been pitching a couple days in a row. Considering that, it’s amazing he’s been as effective as he has been.
2) That said, dominant closers are not a good bet going forward.
3) But, Frankie will be on the right side of 30 going into free agency.
4) Jose Arredondo has pitched in all of five games, and only in one of them with a tight (one-run) lead, May 21 @ Toronto.
5) The rap on Arredondo was that his fastball tended to straighten out despite his 95-97 MPH velocity, and his fringe-average slider and change weren’t good enough for the Show. He also ended up getting demoted to Rancho last year after an incident in which he stormed off the mound at Arkansas after being lifted during a game (he apparently lost interest!). It’s also said the converted infielder doesn’t have much feel for pitching, which is to say, he’s been good so far in the first go-round through the league, but whether he’ll be able to make adjustments after everyone gets a good look at him is another story. He’s only had a sub-3.00 ERA, but his peripherals are fairly strong, with a nine-ish K/9 in the last couple years or so.

In short, I wouldn’t get too high on him, or too down on Frankie. If everything breaks right, the Angels might have both healthy and effective, and in an ideal world that would certainly be better.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on May 27, 2008 3:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Correction

“He’s only had a sub-3.00 ERA” three times in his career:

Year Team   IP    ERA
=====================
2006  RCQ  90.0  2.30
2007  ARK  25.0  2.52
2008  SLC  17.0  2.12

It looks better than it really was because mixed among those were some 6+ ERA’s.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on May 27, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

half the story

he only started pitching in 2004.

His 2006 numbers at Rancho made him an all-star at that level and earned him the promotion. He was doing just fine at Arkansas last year (again, made the all-star team) but got demoted for his behavior. He got thumped in his first game back at Rancho (really thumped, something like 10 runs) but was otherwise fine.

His splitter looks pretty nasty to me, and probably to the guys who’ve whiffed on it, too.

by jjackflash on May 27, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

A scoreless tie in extras doesn't count as "tight"?

I get what you’re saying, and maybe he hasn’t really proven to be nails yet, but I think it’s ok to be excited about a young arm consistently throwing 96 mph strikes and getting guys out.

Please go away Justin Speier. Your work here is done. And take Quinlan's half-inch fielding radius with you.

by ReggieBullits on May 27, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is a game fo failure

It is easier to predict failure.

If Arredondo had not had his head straightened out by that demotion he would not be in the bigs (see B-Jecks for proof of that de facto policy in the Angels org).

The “rap” on him about the ball being so hittable is precisely what was worked on in Rancho (in addition to his insubordination tendencies). That he had a 2.12 era in the Salt Lake launching pad must mean something.

HE was the SLC closer to start this season, I guess his numbers earlier this year do not bolster a case for failure…

by Rev Halofan on May 27, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

(B-JENKS typo above)

by Rev Halofan on May 27, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not ridiculous at all given JA's stuff and what Franky is going to demand

Not to mention the fact that we are going need to find Vlad’s heir apparent. That money has to come from somewhere.

BTW, I agree with everything you say. That is why I qualified my post and did not demand that Franky be cut and JA instantly promoted. I agree that having them both would be ideal.

by Ajax on May 27, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Frankies fastball hasn't been 89 since early April.

He’s 92-94 consistently now.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 27, 2008 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

On Monday -- his last appearance

I didn’t see him throw any faster than 91mph.

by shiftyeyedgoat on May 28, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

next year

frankie will leave for huge money.
Shields will take over the closer duties
Arredondo will take the 8th inning with Speier (JA is too young/inexperienced to take over now—just like Frankie in 2003).
We might go after another Speier type to help with the late innings.

I hope we use the Frankie money to lock up the young guys long-term….or a real bat to replace a soon to be dumped GA/Rivera in the offseason.

Go Angels!

by Four Ts on May 27, 2008 4:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Personally, I hope we re-sign K-Rod.

Not even in his prime, yet he’s the best in baseball at what he does, namely nailing down wins. There’s no one in baseball I’d rather have on the mound with a lead in the 9th.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 27, 2008 5:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs