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Friday Pregame

4:05 PM GAME in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Pregame Guesses: Name the Angel who will have the most plate appearances combined with the fewest total bases reached safely in tonight's game. Correct Guess = 3 Points!

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Is interleague play just hype?
No
50 votes
Yes
29 votes
What isn't hype these days?
56 votes

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Figgins

Rev what happened to the Sunday Pre game Guesses. It was up and then when I logged in it was gone.

Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by acuda27 on Jun 20, 2008 3:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Figgy

Show 'em your a panther... Show 'em what you can do....

by stuck in Romania on Jun 20, 2008 5:18 AM PDT reply actions  

GA

"Just Another Halo Victory" -Rory Markus

by Andyman on Jun 20, 2008 5:52 AM PDT reply actions  

So, Rev....

...talk me through the mathematics here. I guessed GMJ without thinking this through…

High number of plate appearances + low number of total bases. Clearly adding them together isn’t going to work.

Of all those with the highest number of plate appearances (e.g. 6), the one with the lowest number of total bases? What if only one player has 6 PAs and hits 2 HRs? What if one of the guys with 5 PAs Ks 5 times – who wins?

How are you calculating this? (Or am I just being a bit dense?)

I see red people

by The Limey on Jun 20, 2008 6:17 AM PDT reply actions  

What if you go with

the equation

Plate Appearances – total bases = total
Examples
6 pa – 1 tb = 5
or
6 pa – 8 tb = -2

Rev, is this how it will be computed?

Pain heals, Chicks dig scars, Glory lasts Forever!

by billhune on Jun 20, 2008 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

C'mon now

You should know by now I’m the one that has to take care of the nitty gritty :P
That actually is a clever way to calculate this. I didn’t think of it that way. Interesting indeed.

Chart it up! Game on!
Week 11: http://tinyurl.com/5op5n2

by scottnak on Jun 20, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figured that

Rev would need to answer, since he came up with the question.

Pain heals, Chicks dig scars, Glory lasts Forever!

by billhune on Jun 20, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems simple to me

It’s a 2-step process to determine the winner. Say Figgy, Maicer, and Howie get 5 PAs and everyone else only get 4. Everyone is eliminated but Figgy, Maicer, and Howie. Whoever has the fewest total bases between those 3 wins (or in reality, loses).

by ReggieBullits on Jun 20, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

thats what i thought it was

unless i missed something.

Chaka Khan... Rally Monkey 2.0

by howiestheman on Jun 20, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which brings me back to the example before...

We’re trying to find a truly hopeless performance, I suspect.

If we only get 1 player with 6 pa’s and he hits 2 HRs, is that going to be worse than the guy of goes 0 for 5? I would suggest probably not.

I like BillHune’s version I think

I see red people

by The Limey on Jun 20, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Think of it like this

The contest is really to pick who will have the most PAs. The fewest total bases part is the tiebreaker.

Right?

by ReggieBullits on Jun 20, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

sticky...

Argh. this is a thinker. I actually think billhune’s is the way to go, especially with the example presented above.
it’s not clear though… but if its what you presented, I would imagine the wording would be slightly different…

But. either way, here’s hoping it doesnt’ make a difference…

Chart it up! Game on!
Week 11: http://tinyurl.com/5op5n2

by scottnak on Jun 20, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd agree with using billhune's calculation as well

Seems to me that we’re trying to guess who will have the most futile performance tonight, not who will simply have the most PAs. Thus, the fewest total bases is critical in determining who has had the most chances to produce, yet produced jack shit, which I assume to be the crux of tonight’s guesses. My $.02…

And now it’s off to $.07 Mojito Madness Happy Hour. Cheers!

by Big Easy Halofan on Jun 20, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, basically who's gonna suck the mo...

errr, excel the least, I mean, and relatively. Gotta be billhune’s PA – TB with a couple 0-fers and a couple 1-fers “vying” for the award.

by LUVtheLAA on Jun 20, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

GA

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Jun 20, 2008 7:22 AM PDT reply actions  

GMJ

what a depressing pre-game guess

Angels in 08!

by tanana40 on Jun 20, 2008 7:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Please change my pick to Mathis

GMJ is not in the lineup

Angels in 08!

by tanana40 on Jun 20, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

GMJ

Though I’m not sure how the math works out on this either. If we’re just looking for a low number, then I’d just default to Santana, who will have some plate appearances with (likely) zero total bases.

by Brew Angel on Jun 20, 2008 7:38 AM PDT reply actions  

...

this sounds like a conditional. I don’t like conditionals.

Chart it up! Game on!
Week 11: http://tinyurl.com/5op5n2

by scottnak on Jun 20, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds more like a ZERO.

"At some point, a veteran player will more often than not find his stroke. You just have to show them a little bit of patience."

by Downing Rules on Jun 20, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with "The Limey"...

I need the math. Not so much to make the pick; rather, to be able to determine outcomes. Another example: Which would be “better,” contest-wise:

5 PA’s w/ 1 TB or 4 PA’s w/ 0 TB?

Or would that be a tie?

Mick

The '56 LA Angels (PCL) cap logo...a classic.

by MurrietaMick on Jun 20, 2008 7:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Kendrick

who knows!!

You Better watch out, The Angels are War Machines!

by im4kiss on Jun 20, 2008 7:47 AM PDT reply actions  

gmj

my bad...k-rod is good.

by NoDakHalo on Jun 20, 2008 8:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Mathis

im going to be in San Diego tonight, and im going to a Padres game…. not too excited for the game, but im stoked to see the stadium. havent been to Petco yet.

Chaka Khan... Rally Monkey 2.0

by howiestheman on Jun 20, 2008 9:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Not so tough...

pick and let it ride…

Aybar

"At some point, a veteran player will more often than not find his stroke. You just have to show them a little bit of patience."

by Downing Rules on Jun 20, 2008 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Change...

HUNTER

"At some point, a veteran player will more often than not find his stroke. You just have to show them a little bit of patience."

by Downing Rules on Jun 20, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

GA

Outfielders For Sale.

by gorams77 on Jun 20, 2008 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

My Pick

GMJ

You down with PGG, Yeah you know me!

Pain heals, Chicks dig scars, Glory lasts Forever!

by billhune on Jun 20, 2008 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

hk47

i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all

by halofan4life on Jun 20, 2008 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

GA

No brainer

by Higz on Jun 20, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

GA

Not sure I fully understand the math…but if GA weren’t so lazy I think I….......?! :P

This is bad Vlad and his band of wimps!

by K3YEROUT on Jun 20, 2008 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Garret Anderson

is the answer to this question. The Escalade in low gear …

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jun 20, 2008 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

figgy

"i got 5ive on it"

by Funke5ive on Jun 20, 2008 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

my pick is GA

I dont know if i misheard, but the four letter network radio station just said esco is pitching tonight for us. either they clearly dont know angels baseball or myspacecobar has recovered rather quickly. i know he has been throwing simulated games but i didnt think he was ready to start.

did anyone else hear that?

by wallispdub1 on Jun 20, 2008 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Didn't hear that...

but it is preposterous. He’s down in Tempe right now with Bootycheck doing a rehab assignment.

"At some point, a veteran player will more often than not find his stroke. You just have to show them a little bit of patience."

by Downing Rules on Jun 20, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Snippet from angelsbaseball.com 6/19 2:30AM

Angels right-hander Kelvim Escobar and reliever Chris Bootcheck are en route to Tempe, Ariz., to continue their rehab stints for their injuries. Escobar, who was diagnosed with a torn labrum in late March, will throw a simulated game on Tuesday, and he could pitch two innings in an Arizona Summer League game next week. Bootcheck, who is on the 15-day disabled list with a strained forearm, is expected to begin a long-toss program this weekend

"At some point, a veteran player will more often than not find his stroke. You just have to show them a little bit of patience."

by Downing Rules on Jun 20, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

i thought so

i guess its just another example of how biased the network is and their inability to do a simple bit of research to find out the “real” starters. i hope this doesnt spark yet another debate on the bias of the network, heaven knows we have had enough of those lately.

by wallispdub1 on Jun 20, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

so were looking at a mid to late july return for myspacecobar?

i know there is speculation of him returning to the starting rotation but is that unrealistic to think of right now? id like to see him, if he can fully recover, in the bully maybe take Spier’s spot and package Spier in a deal to pick up a slugger.

by wallispdub1 on Jun 20, 2008 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Izzy

"Here we go baby, 'bout f***'n' time!"

by b0rd3rline on Jun 20, 2008 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Mathis

Do you have a moment to hear about the Church of Fregosi?

by HaloDutch on Jun 20, 2008 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Guess

Gotta go with Mathis on this one.

by foxpaw on Jun 20, 2008 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Hunter

Unless Rev chimes in, I’ll be using billhune’s formula to calculate today’s picks.
The winner will fit the criteria of:
MAX

Chart it up! Game on!
Week 11: http://tinyurl.com/5op5n2

by scottnak on Jun 20, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

hm.

well that disappeared
MAX [ #PA – #Bases ]

Chart it up! Game on!
Week 11: http://tinyurl.com/5op5n2

by scottnak on Jun 20, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

GA

I'd rather see Willits in LF

by UCIHalo on Jun 20, 2008 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Mathis

Angels Defense. Angels Pitching. Get past that. :-[

by vladtheimpaler on Jun 20, 2008 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

It's too hot to guess, guess:

Garret Anderson

The internet destabilizes every hierarchy it contacts.

by 44FAN on Jun 20, 2008 3:49 PM PDT reply actions  

hopefully...

he is not too lazy to serve you a helping of crow.

"At some point, a veteran player will more often than not find his stroke. You just have to show them a little bit of patience."

by Downing Rules on Jun 20, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

GA

i guess…..im so confused/

i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!

by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 20, 2008 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

hella confused, eh?

"At some point, a veteran player will more often than not find his stroke. You just have to show them a little bit of patience."

by Downing Rules on Jun 20, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

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