Saturday @ Brooklyn Thread
Los Angeles Angels at Los Angeles Dodgers, Jun 28, 2008 7:10 PM PDT
Random George Carlin Quote: By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth.
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HD on KCAL
But not on KCOP.
I hate channel 13.
Let no joyful voice be heard! Let no man look up at the sky with hope! And let this day be cursed by we who ready to wake... the K-Rod!
The moveable object meets the resistable force
Both starters like to throw too many pitches, and neither offense likes to walk.
3 up, 3 down. The randomness of Weaver’s control comin’ up.
Witty .sig goes here.
im starting my shift for the night........today better be better than yesterday!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:16 PM PDT reply actions
YAY FOR IZZY BEING BACK!
Damn you FIGGY for shaving your LEGS!!!!!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:17 PM PDT reply actions
WHY
TF
is GA batting third AGAIN??
I’m sure it’s been brought up already, but still….WHY?????
Light Up That Halo!
I meant you edhoo
Not Desmond.
Injuries I’ve got no problem with, just you.
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Butcher needs to go out and talk to Weaver
His velocity is in “hit me” range. I haven’t seen a ball over 90 yet.
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Now THERE is a stat that would interest me.
Average number of pitches thrown per inning. I wonder if high pitch counts in the initial inning are really a big deal. I see that high count a lot, but it seems to even out later on.
vlad and his first pitch swinging.......yay!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:30 PM PDT reply actions
and the bats are STILL in washington
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:32 PM PDT reply actions
Didn't see the pitch
Was outside having a smoke. But on gameday it looked pretty much like a strike.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Billingsley looks a damn sight better than our guy at the moment
That could change though … I never liked this pitching matchup.
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Weaver is by far our weakest starter
Not sure what the brass are going to do when Escobar comes back after the all-star game.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
him and Johnny G are the same abouts in my book
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Easy. Escobar to the pen until a starter falters.
Your premise is that Weave will be the first starter to fail.
Garland goes to the pen, or Weaver goes back down
I’m pretty sure that the Angels aren’t impressed with his apparent regression.
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I can't see them sending Weaver down.
He’s proven himself in the major leagues. He does make some attractive trade bait though …
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
No thanks
It’s ridiculous. Escobar will relieve, until & unless someone gets hurt. No matter how much you dislike Jered Weaver.
I dislike Jered Weaver
But I still think there are a lot of teams out there that would love to have him. Why have Escobar relieve if he is capable of starting? ... In my view, depending on when Escobar comes back, Weaver might be trade bait. Same with Garland.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
"Trade bait"
Is a term that dates back to the Bill Bavasi era. Does not apply to this team, particularly considering the suckitude of Dustin Mosely.
Fair enough point, Matt
And I agree with you that historically since the Bavasi days we have not made trades at the deadline. The excuse of Bavasi/Stoneman has always been: “We’ll do something if it improves our team without harming the existing fabric of our team.” Reagins is cut from the same cloth.
However … we’ve never been in a position before the deadline when we’ve had a stud like Escobar coming back like this.
If you can explain to me how Escobar taking Weaver’s spot in the rotation, and then shipping Weaver off to another team in exchange for someone who can help us in another area on the club, hurts the existing fabric of our team, I’m all ears.
Mind you, Weaver’s pitching a decent game right now.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
And regardless of how much I dislike him
I hope he can at least get a bunt down.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The hell?
How much I dislike Weaver doesn’t enter into it. The Angels have already shown they’ll send youngsters failing to Get It down (i.e. Santana) if better alternatives exist.
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"enter into it" = you are the only human who thinks it's a possibility
Santana was utterly lost last year. Weaver has been inconsistent. Big difference.
I will grant you this
He will have to get a lot suckier first. I don’t think it’s a likelihood, at least, not so far.
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I honestly don't know what they would do
If Kelvim is capable of starting surely he needs to go into the rotation? Somebody’s gonna get their ass sent down or DFA’ed if his comeback continues at this pace.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Weav got that strikeout back
The same pitch as Hunter whiffed on, only from the other side.
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atleast SOTH listened about moving Howard back down....
good call
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:44 PM PDT reply actions
SEE......he hits better down there
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:44 PM PDT reply actions
It's amazing how good Scully still is after all these years
He’s gotta be 90 years old and the guy doesn’t miss much …
Don't call me Desmond
For some reason I thought Scully was a WWII veteran
My bad. He was too young for WWII.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
weak........
good thing we’re an AL team…....hopefully the AL wins the AS game again so we dont have to play 4 games on the road in the WS….and save our pitchers the embarrasment
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:50 PM PDT reply actions
CMON MOUSER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:51 PM PDT reply actions
admiral stills owes us 2 runs from yesterday!!
PAY UP!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:53 PM PDT reply actions
bleh
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Pfft
Another in the long line of limp-bat, slick-glove Angels middle infielders.
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He's got better range than any of 'em....
... though I sure hope he hits better than DiSar and Dick Schofield.
ugh.......Disar = 1995.....and that = vomit in my mouth
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
nice K
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:57 PM PDT reply actions
Just when you think Weaver's starting to get it
he goes to a full count to the PITCHER.
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K........one more for the over on Pregame guess
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 7:59 PM PDT reply actions
that was a nice inning
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:01 PM PDT reply actions
so what are the odds Vlad takes the first pitch?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:01 PM PDT reply actions
after GA grounds out to 2nd i mean *grin*
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He almost bounced out to 2nd
off the catcher’s chest protector
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
pretty borderline calls on the first two pitches to GA
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:03 PM PDT reply actions
Billingsley didn't want anything to do with Vlad
The trick now is keeping Torii from hitting into a double play.
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HULA HULA HULA!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:07 PM PDT reply actions
BOOLA BOOLA BOOLA
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Domino Rula on the move
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
love that guy!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
So far, yeah
Billingsley looks tough and the ump ain’t doing us any favours. Nothing hit hard from the boys in red.
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish I were in LA
Some of the best games of the year are when we play in LA.
Great atmosphere for S-Talking.
by KendrickExperience on Jun 28, 2008 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
only when you win though
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the intensity, even after a loss
As close to the playoffs in the regular season as you can get.
by KendrickExperience on Jun 28, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Scully
On Loney’s broken-bat ground out: “That sounded like a celery stalk snapping. You could hear it up here.”
Don't call me Desmond
mathis is becoming quite the lil battlerrrrr up there lately
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:26 PM PDT reply actions
too bad he still always K's though.....
but he sees more pitches
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
so after watching Mathis' last 4-5 ABs...
i have no idea why he’s starting tonight.
whatever. we need runs. we look terrible
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was it you that was trying to convince me that Mathis needed to play more over Naps?
or someone else?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
someone else
i’m aboard the Naps train
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa...
Yeah his pitch count is high, but what’s with the complaints about Weaver who has allowed two walks and gotten five Ks in four innings. Don’t blame him our offense forgot to show up.
Willits needs to play, every, single, freaking, day. Now.
No first pitch strikes
And now he doesn’t help himself with a crappy fielding job.
First hit on an infield single.
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That's an error for Chrissake
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
now he did lol
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Where's that great defensive catcher
Jeff Mathis, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
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wham bam thank ya ma'am!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:34 PM PDT reply actions
lol Weaver has a no-hitter going.......but already given up a run....
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:34 PM PDT reply actions
well an un-earned (earned run)
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
All Weaver had to do was pick the damn ball up and he's out of this friggin inning
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omg
did you even see the play? that ball had more english on it than the best pool player in the world can put on a ball. Weaver has given up 1 run in 5 innings. Why don’t you try complaining about some of the offense. You know the offense that as a team is hitting at about an equivalent level of GMJ who is having a horrid season.
i would say more like WILLITS.......but thats just me :)
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
3-0 on the pitcher???? cripes
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:35 PM PDT reply actions
lol walking the pitcher..........you've gotta be EFFIN kidding me?????
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:36 PM PDT reply actions
Sorry ladybug
but that wasn’t the dumbest thing Jered did this inning.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
no hitter thru 5 HAHAHAHAH
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:37 PM PDT reply actions
BUDDE anyone?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
ah okay.....i thought he was hurt though?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Well at least the A's just LOST!
1-0 Ty Tim Lincecum
YAY......nice
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Tim's the best young righty in the game
God bless him
by KendrickExperience on Jun 28, 2008 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
lets go Mouser! start this shite off
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:41 PM PDT reply actions
oh i forgot.....CY BILLINGSLEY is on the mound.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:42 PM PDT reply actions
Hand got in there before the tag
You could see it from the 3rd replay. Great throw though, definitely beat him.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
yea he was out
Aybar got a bad jump out of the box with the ball breaking his bat. I was hoping he wouldn’t try to turn that one into two when I saw that jump.
GA really needs to sit, he looks just bad up there
I wonder what Soth’s reasoning was for sitting GMJ instead of GA when GMJ’s OPS in June is over 300 points higher.
who knows with this team anymore
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
bummer
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:44 PM PDT reply actions
jesus......vlad.......
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:45 PM PDT reply actions
torrid fails always with ducks on the pond lately *le sigh*
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:47 PM PDT reply actions
That would be understandable
if that pitch had once, at any time, been anywhere near the strike zone.
At what point do they start making some changes....
The only team with worse offenses in the AL are KC and Seattle.
KC owns NL pitching.....
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
And Stoneman/Reagins are paying
the Angels about how much more than the Royals?
That's putting it succinctly
Suck-cinctly.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
the first "hit" for the dodgers......sorta
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:54 PM PDT reply actions
Except for the fact that it didn't even "hit" him
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
the bats never left Wash
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
The bats are coming out this inning
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
K6.....atleast i'll get one point tonight......
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:55 PM PDT reply actions
We'd better hit a home run though ...
Can you pinch-hit for a guy who is throwing a no-hitter?
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no no thru 6.......awesome
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:57 PM PDT reply actions
this seems like a good time to mentiont that in MLB 08 i threw a perfect game against the Tigers with Weaver........it was bad arse
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
lol yeah........6-0
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
If Wheels hits one far enough
he won’t even have to show off his blazing speed.
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Great.
Just what we need. The slowest runner on the team on first, with HK and our blind catcher and our no-no throwing pitcher coming up.
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Can you pinch hit for Weave with a no-no going?
by KendrickExperience on Jun 28, 2008 8:59 PM PDT reply actions
come on Richie!!!!!!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 8:59 PM PDT reply actions
Howard Kendrick = Ron Howard = Richie Cunningham
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
when he hits like a wuss.......i call him richie
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
how? Hatcher has him convinced pulling the ball is for losers.
All I see him do is hit it to RF recently. Lots of singles and doubles but he’ll never hit his projected 20 homers a year with the approach of late
uh why not have Napoli hit for Mathis? thats dumb
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:03 PM PDT reply actions
Matthews a switch hitter
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
so you waste two people for one..........thats clear as mud to me
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
atleast Naps has shown he can hit for power......and hit off the dodgers
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, but he's second on the team in homers
thats something
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
come on..
11 homers in 42 games is good.
we all know that w/o the platoon, he’d be hitting better and with more power.
given 70+ starts, he’d probably be close to 20.
give the guy a break.
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude. Come on. He averages 1 HR for every 17 AB's.
Even if you gave him ALL of Mathis’ AB’s this year he would just be at 15 HR’s.
yea batting average is the only measure of a hitter.
Suzuki was way better than say Barry Bonds….
stop making sense
Napoli has hit righties this year almost 200 OPS points better than Sarge Jr. And if this game went extras they did just lose a ph.
thats what i am saying
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice hard slide Kotch
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
wow...GIDP Matthews got a break there
good thing the Doyers D sucks BIG time
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please God...
show Soth the light!
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Weaver just stormed off down the tunnel like a big pussy
If he had picked up that ground ball he wouldn’t be coming out of the game. I’m sick of the Weavers. Get rid of this guy.
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I was talking about his pussy reaction to being pinch hit for, Matt
Not his overall performance on the night.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
A no-hitter is over nine innings
Not six.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Look Matt, I'm not talking about his pitching ability
although Jered is the worst of our 5 starters right now. If Escobar comes back and is capable of starting, it’s clear to me whose job is on the line.
What I’m talking about is his bitch-like reaction to getting pulled. See how he likes it in the bullpen if you don’t want to trade him.
You know, we could get a good player who could help our offense in a trade for Weaver.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
What bugs me about Weaver
1) Throws too many pitches, and not enough first-pitch strikes.
2) Seems to regress a little every year.
3) Too damn emotional whenever anything goes wrong.
4) Weirdly can’t field his position. That’s the second crucial error Weaver has made this year.
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Anyone pitching a no-no who doesn't get pissed upon .....
...being pinch hit for I don’t want.
...on the road....
by Jack Kerouac on Jun 28, 2008 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough
but the error that led to the game’s only run being scored was Jered’s own error on an easily fielded squibber. He also made no attempt to hold the baserunner on, which is why Kemp took off like a bat out of hell and Mathis airmailed it into center field.
I don’t blame him for being pissed off. He should be. But for once he should be pointing the finger at himself instead of his teammates for a) making errors behind him or b) not giving him enough offensive support.
Lots of guys throw no-hitters through six innings. Very few of them end up with no-hitters.
Tough shit, Jered.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
a no-no, but he's still in line for the loss
baseball’s so weird
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah... Matt,
Now you understand why I don’t participate in game threads often anymore. Even if people can make the insane logic that Weaver didn’t get it done tonight because of the one misplayed ball, they’re ignoring that he’d still have gotten out of it if not for Mathis’ awful throw. Mathis would get blame of the game, no way you can give it to Weaver.
Willits needs to play, every, single, freaking, day. Now.
How'd you feel if you didn't give up a hit but lost
because your teammates flail away at everything as soon as there is anything resembling a rally, and your catcher overthrows 2nd base half the time he throws.
Weaver let the only guy who scored get on base
By botching a routine play on a dribbler between the mound and first that 99 percent of little leaguers would make the play on.
Weaver’s offense had nothing to do with that base runner.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, have you ever pitched a game even at say the HS level?
That was not a routine play. I’ve seen a ton of baseball and I can’t ever recall a ball moving that much, it started out going right down the 3rd baseline and wound up going towards SS.
If it was so routine don’t you think the Dodgers scorer would have given them a hit?
I played college baseball
That was a routine play. All Weaver had to do was pick up the ball and shovel it in the general vicinity of his GG 1B Kotchman. That’s why the official scorekeeper ruled it an error. Also, Weaver made no attempt to hold Kemp on first base, which is why he got such a great jump stealing second and Mathis airmailed it into center field.
Both routine plays if you ask me.
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
i think it's a little misleading to say the offense isn't relevant here
if the angels offense isn’t dead today and the angels are up 3-1 or 4-1, i don’t think weaver gets pinch hit for
If Weaver makes his own play on that squibber
he doesn’t get pinch-hit for! ... If he gets the bunt down in the 3rd he doesn’t get pinch-hit for … la la la la la la
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by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
dunno yet
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate losing series to the Dodgers
this sucks.
by KendrickExperience on Jun 28, 2008 9:12 PM PDT reply actions
its not lost yet........have faith!!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
and i of course meant
i may *get 3 points tonight
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
i have one....and thats all imma get probably :(
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
i've got one right now with WTY's Ks...
but with all the pitchers and lack of offense, it’s lookin’ good!
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
stupid gamecast is frozen
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
knee bothering him again perhaps?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Weaver? Sarcasm.
Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!
by Fan Since 1981 on Jun 28, 2008 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
You would think so....
...hard to give BOTG to someone giving up one run in six innings,
...on the road....
by Jack Kerouac on Jun 28, 2008 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
with no hits allowed
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
9/11 too perhaps?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously?
Field. Your. Position. The run may be unearned, but it’s as much his fault as it is Mathis’ for YET ANOTHER ball flying into CF.
Witty .sig goes here.
I said the offense was to blame for not doing its job
But Weaver was the proximate cause for the loss. As the box score will show.
Witty .sig goes here.
Combined Angels' OFs salaries: approx. $55 million (GA, GMJ, V and T)
Perhaps a partial refund to Arte would be appropriate.
Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!
Or perhaps a realization by the fan base than the Angels organization while GREAT at assessing pitching
Has very little idea about how runs are scored.
Dondo.....nice
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:28 PM PDT reply actions
Only hope the Angels have
is that Saito is off his game. The first pitch will be telling.
Witty .sig goes here.
only this angels team could lose a game without giving up a hit.......
crazy
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:29 PM PDT reply actions
upn's
no hitter statistics is kind of bittersweet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTvSUCCqPo
by ANewFoundThrice on Jun 28, 2008 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe this pisses off management enough to stop TALKING about changes
and actually do something
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
well NO-NO intact....lol
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:31 PM PDT reply actions
Would be nice if the Angels could blow this no-hitter.
Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!
by Fan Since 1981 on Jun 28, 2008 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
OK here come Saito
Let’s at least tie this thing and get his bullshit no-no loss hoodoo off our backs.
Don't call me Desmond
you would think that something like THIS
would be enough to fire Hatcher.
we are about to lose a game after out pitcher combined for a no hitter.
pathetic
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
*our pitchers
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
and he's the biggest guess hitter I've seen
If I had seen him hit as much as I have this year there is no way I would have said give him half of what the Angels gave him.
His numbers this year are right in line with his career numbers.
Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!
by Fan Since 1981 on Jun 28, 2008 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks for not showing up at all today torri.......
wish i could not show up at my job and get paid!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:34 PM PDT reply actions
He already gets to not show up 7 times out of 10 and get paid.
You’d think that somebody might insist on something out of the other 3…
ok that pitch was right there why Hatcher should be fired
that was a hanging slider which needs to be pulled, instead Howie is trying to get a 2 out single to RF.
Yep. In Japan he would eat coal and crap diamonds.
Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!
by Fan Since 1981 on Jun 28, 2008 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
howie 2 hits tonight....atleast HE showed up
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:39 PM PDT reply actions
then if Juan does succeed who catches?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
because Juan rarely gets ABs
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Howie delaying the inevitable
prove me wrong Naps!
by Los Angeles de Anaheim on Jun 28, 2008 9:39 PM PDT reply actions
REGGIE REGGIE REGGIE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTvSUCCqPo
by ANewFoundThrice on Jun 28, 2008 9:42 PM PDT reply actions
at least it's something
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
see edhoo's comment below
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
i see a ground out to the pitcher
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:43 PM PDT reply actions
more fuel for the "start Naps" fire
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Reggie Jackson right now would be nice.
If he could turn back the clock to 1977.
Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!
color me disgusted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTvSUCCqPo
by ANewFoundThrice on Jun 28, 2008 9:44 PM PDT reply actions
if they fired Mickey Hacker I'd be ok
but they won’t, the status quo will continue which means an offense that just plain sucks.
yea their whole system needs to be overhauled.
what is really concerning is that guy that come up with an idea about the strikezone (Naps and Kotch for example) start drawing fewer walks as they are given more time with Mickey Hacker
will they ever open their EFFING EYES????????
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
perfect usage
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
The feminine side of HH burns her bomb with 1 day to go!
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL w000 way to prove your worth Reggie......now no one would take him
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:45 PM PDT reply actions
i blame mathis.
if he doesn’t airmail the throw, we get out of it with no runs
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
If Jered would have made any attempt to hold the runner on base
Kemp wouldn’t have been running on the play, and Mathis would not have airmailed it into center field.
It’s our poor luck that DeWitt got just enough on the sac fly that is was too deep for Vlad to gun Kemp down at the plate. Cuz Vlad made an awesome throw.
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, A's fans love it
A’s got beat 1-0 by the Giants, so us fans very happy our pitiful game was “out-pitifuled” by Vlad and the other heavy hitters on the Angles.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 28, 2008 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
guess blame to torri
blame can go to mathis but he did call a no hitter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTvSUCCqPo
by ANewFoundThrice on Jun 28, 2008 9:46 PM PDT reply actions
well he's not getting any playing time.
hard to get into a groove getting one ab a week and he’s not experienced enough to be a pinch-hitter. I’d start him anyday over GA or GMJ.
yeah once people realized he cant hit strike....
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
yea he didn't do as well after the ASB as before but...
his post ASB OBP was a very nice .370. I’d have no problem putting him at the top of the Angels lineup. If that is him “sucking” then bring it on. There is definitely a use for a guy that gets on base at that clip.
I think that's the point, though.
He is FANTASTIC at getting on base. As Rex said throughout Reggie’s AB, he was up there to drive in the tying run. Why in the hell was he trying to walk?
Wrong guy pinch hitting in that situation. I’m not a Q fan, but even I think Q would be better in that situation.
Willits needs to play, every, single, freaking, day. Now.
yea I agree with that
he is not a run producer which is EXACTLY why more than a few people here where peeved at Soth for pinch hitting GMJ for Mathis when Napoli had to go into the game. Soth really really really screwed that up.
Team Loss
Get the job done!! Guy allowed not hits and you lost…......Just saw something happen in the Bigs that had not happened in 45+ years
our offense can't even score one damn run tonight
That’s why I blame Torii… so what if Mathis doesn’t airmail, Weaver doesn’t err – we still go 15+ innings to lose
by Los Angeles de Anaheim on Jun 28, 2008 9:49 PM PDT reply actions
I have no problem with Torii as the BOTG.
Everytime recently he comes up with RISP and it being a key point in the game….. his probability of swinging is like 100.4 %
Nice Effort
The Angels are the fourth team to lose a no-hitter in Major League history.
And it happens against the Dodgers….........That BLOWS
in other news...the dodgers weren't the only notable ones to not get a hit today
...vlad didn’t either, snapping his 16 game hitting streak
Just not our night, and we're pretty sad offensively
We’ll get um tomorrow.
Go halos.
by KendrickExperience on Jun 28, 2008 9:54 PM PDT reply actions
Weaver
Guy didn’t get the bunt down with runners on 1st and 2nd no outs, and made the error that allowed the runner to reach base and eventually score…..............Aybar going for two and getting thrown out….....Figgins had a chance , so on and so on…..........TEAM LOSS …....not one guy cost the game
i think we hit rock bottom in the 5th
we passed it with this loss
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
uh... the Angels do have a series with the A's coming up
It could get a lot lower than this
good God....
please don’t remind me.
how much abuse will we take before we fire that deadbeat Hatcher?
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
further bottom to come!
Maybe the A’s and Rangers will pass Anaheim in the standings??
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 28, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
if this is what happens when figgins is out of the lineup
he technically deserves to be our highest paid player. i cant believe how stagnant this offense can get.
i wont complain about our philosophy because when its good theres no reason to complain…..but a walk here and there wouldnt kill anyone would it?
it might kill our hitting coach...
let’s get them to walk!
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
they draw some walks when nobody is on base but a recurring problem with the Angels offense
is they go into hyperdrive and swing at anything as soon as a rally develops. Certainly the A’s are the opposite extreme, but the Angels need to find something closer to the middle and soon. When they are scoring runs, Vlad is walking even with RISP and Torii is letting Kotch do some hitting too.
Scary stat
Reggie Willits who is hitting in the 160’s still has an OBP higher than our 3rd place hitter!
i also enjoyed vin scully's stat:
howie kendrick has as many hit by pitches as he does walks this season: 3
by ihearhowie2.0 on Jun 28, 2008 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh Cripes sake!
It was only one game! A weird one that we had no business losing, but it’s still only one game.
Don't call me Desmond
And those complaining about the offense have a half season's worth of data to complain about.
Yes todays game is only one loss, but the Angels offense has been their biggest weakness by far for all except maybe the first 3 weeks of the season.
its been the weakness since 2002!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
at least in 2002, we had speed, power and some form of plate discipline
now we have speed, no power and nowhere NEAR enough discipline.
what happened???
as much as i hate to say it, the Sawx have what we had in 2002. that’s why they win it all.
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
what happened? Bill Stoneman happened.
The 2002 team was mostly Bavasi’s work. Stoneman did a good job getting Eckstein for free and filling out the bullpen, but the offense was definitely in place before Stoneman got there.
Jim Edmonds for Kent Bottenfield and Adam Kennedy….... Seriously anyone with half a brain could have seen Bottenfield was a complete fluke and Kennedy didn’t have much upside because he didn’t walk and he didn’t hit for power, and at the time he didn’t even play a great 2B.
good point
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the reasons I suggest offloading Weaver
for some hitting help if/when Escobar comes back after the All-Star break into the rotation. We’ll have 6 damn good starters at the end of this month, and we need a hitter.
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Jun 28, 2008 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
i've suggested that as well
but it all depends on what Escobar can do and when we can come back and do it.
Weaver plus Willits and a few prospects = a very good bat para us
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
who the hell is gonna take willits?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 28, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
any team that needs an outfielder and/or a leadoff hitter
i’d throw in Rivera instead, but he’s a FA after this year
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
no need to panic yet…tonights game just felt like bleeding to death
by ihearhowie2.0 on Jun 28, 2008 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
just saw the highlight of that first error again...
i swear, Satan possessed that ball.
Dodger Stadium is in Hell’s backyard. there’s no more doubt
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yea I've never seen a ball move that much
Granted Weaver isn’t a good defender and ideally he’s the Angels 4th/5th starter, but it’s very hard to blame him on that one.
i cant believe the movement on that ball....
how does that even happen??
it was like a real-life “Angels in the Outfield”, only it was “Demons for the Doyers”!!
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
forgive me for not holding my breath
i’m not sure i want to die so young
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by howiestheman on Jun 28, 2008 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
but if the Angels don't win tomorrow, then they just got swept and
don’t have their best pitcher to face their toughest division rival. Tomorrow is HUGE.

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