Angels at the Half-Way Point
The first half of the 2008 season concluded with the most embarrassing loss in recent Angels history. The Dodgers beat us in front of the entire southland watching even though they did not have a hit in the game. After three months of sputtering offense being hand-held by epic pitching, this game #81 laid it out bare: The Angels cannot rely on the arms in the 2nd half when the bats make the team look like jackasses at the hands of the opponent to whom we as fans lose the most franchise face.
After half the season and a 48-33 record, there are only three players with more than 70 games under their belts who have recorded an OPS+ of over 100 (100 being a baseline of league average; OPS+ is calculated for the league realities and competition levels that change from year to year). Those three are Casey Kotchman (OPS+ 109), Torii Hunter (108) and a “slumping” Vlad Guerrero (123). The two lodestones on this offense are Gary Matthews, Jr. (OPS+ 83) and Garret Anderson (76, yes, Seventy Frickin’ SIX!).
The 5 players with the most games played have combined for an OPS+ of 98.6. No hitting fever here. We are a singles-hitting hack-out squad. We would be destined for fourth place were it not for the amazing pitching.
The slowly disintegrating Justin Speier and 5th starter Jered Weaver are the only arms currently on the roster with an ERA+ below the League Average base of 100 - Speier is at a dismal 74 ERA+ while Jered's is 95 and appears to be rising. Jon Garland is at 101 and Darren O’Day is at 104. After that it is a rocket ride: Santana at 123, Oliver at 131, Saunders at 133, Shields at 161, Frankie at 198, John Lackey at 247 and Jose Arredondo flying up past the 290 mark.
There are many solutions available, but Mike Scioscia seems to have chosen the Steve-Finley solution: Let suck-ass veterans with big paychecks keep the division race close by handcuffing the team’s offense to assure that we do not have home field advantage in the playoffs for which we will be bruised, tired and generally awaiting an ass-whipping no matter who we face.
We lost a lot of things with Steve Finley continually in the lineup in 2005. The one tangible thing was home-field advantage to the White Sox. What small, but terribly important things will we lose in 2008 making sure that Garbage Matthews or Garret get their sacred playing (i.e. sucking) time?????
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I know it's just one game but it doesn't feel like it
I just got here and missed the postgame/game threads, but Rev, you’re exactly right.
This game more than any other lately convinced me that this team is in trouble without any significant changes.
They’re still in first place. They still have an amazing pitching staff. But that might not be enough.
the angels should be running away with this damn division
instead of letting the A’s and Rangers hang around.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 29, 2008 1:15 AM PDT reply actions
Rev dont be racist, why are you pinning out GA and HGH? LOL Just Kidding
AMEN dude you are 100% right. This shit needs to change and that means HGH and GA hit the bench ASAP. Rivera cant possibly do worse than those to pices of garbage (No disrispect to GA’s career as an Angel, but seriously retire already.)
I would say call up Kendry but hes on the DL so give Rivera the DH/LF role until Morales gets better and then have him DH and Rivera in LF.
My brother, sister, dad, and brother in law were all over me after last nights lose. I told them we gave it to them for free since they cant get to .500 by themselves to catch a 1 game over .500 1st place D-Backs.
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Something has to be done about GMJ.
im sure that some team will take him for a bucket of balls or a few bats. if nobody will, then we need to release him and eat his contract. I know he has a NTC, but benching him for a few days and the threat of release should get him to wave it. Put Juan in LF, bench GA for a little (at the very least just to make sure he is completely healthy and to send a message). Reggie can also get some playin time. For gods sake, put kotch in the 3rd spot in the lineup. hell tear up the league with vlad hitting behind him. kendrick does not leave the 7 (or 8) spot in the lineup. Maicer bats 2nd. Napoli starts. The lineup must be…
Figgins, Maicer, Kotch, Vlad, Torii, Juan, HK, Naps, Reggie. When Morales gets healthy, insert into lineup when possible. I dont give a damn about defense at the moment because the team hasnt been able to score a run and mathis cant hit for shit or field right now.
I AM THOR, GOD OF THUNDER. BOW TO MY WILL AND MY HAMMER!
man i feel your frustration, but Reggie needs to go away too.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 29, 2008 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Agree......Rivera should have got that PH off the bench.
I know it was Game Over when I saw willits on the on deck circle
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
same here.....pitchers arent scared to go right after Reggie....
you have to wonder if Rivera is in the doghouse or something? hell Q would have been better than Reggie
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 29, 2008 2:44 AM PDT up reply actions
i thought the same thing.
i understand using reggie to lead off an inning, cause he’s a spark plug kinda guy. but PH’ing him with the tying and winning runs on base? wtf? we needed a RBI guy there, not an OBP guy.
"Here we go baby, 'bout f***'n' time!"
i just wanna bash my head against the wall with this team some times.......
i love em…...i love Mike Scoscia….....but mother-humper….............he pisses me off sometimes!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 29, 2008 3:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Rivera had just gotten back from South Florida...
he had left the team for an “undisclosed family medical reason.” I saw that in Plunkett’s blog yesterday morning and that J. Rivers should have been available last night. Just not sure how effective he would have been after a cross-country trek.
"Never throw the ball so far over the fence where you can't go back and get it." Chuck Knox quoted through Darryl Henley
by Downing Rules on Jun 29, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Rivera
left the team from Washington on Wed. to join his wife in Miami for the Birth of thier third Son, Juan Jr.
Rivera’s wife experienced complications, but he said “everything’s fine now”
Congratulations Juan!
"i got 5ive on it"
Very cool tidbit!
Did Vin Scully tell you that? ;)
Way to go, Juan! Now you have a Juanito. Hopefully, his middle name is not “Hatcher.”
"Never throw the ball so far over the fence where you can't go back and get it." Chuck Knox quoted through Darryl Henley
by Downing Rules on Jun 30, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I never been on this bandwagon
but Hatcher has to go. Rivera should play everyday until he proves he cannot, GA when he plays should bat 7th (he has been a favorite of mine for more than a decade but he is not producing and hitting him 3rd is bizarre). I’m also going to jump on the Morales bandwagon. My batting order would be:
1-Figgy, 3b
2-Izzy, SS
3-Hunter, CF
4-Vlad,RF
5-Kotch, 1b
6-Kendrick, 2b
7-Morales, DH
8-Rivera/GA, LF
9-Naps
Angels in 08!
Step away from the ledge Rev!
Funny thing about baseball seasons…they are long. I have faith that someone or someones will step up with the bat…
ps…sure am glad that I missed last night’s game…it seems to have really bummed some folks out and rightfully so!
This is HOT Vlad and his band of wimps!
Right on Bro!
If only we had someone that could hit RHP with power and walks, and was in their prime season.
http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=9475
2nd in his league in OPS, with HR’s for 7 days in a row.
GA might go on an RBI binge, but GMJ needs to be the 5th OF starting now.
TJ Simers
SPEAKING OF power, here’s a blast from the past. Dallas McPherson, who was supposed to replace Troy Glaus as the Angels’ power hitter, had a streak of seven consecutive games with a home run ended Saturday night. He still leads all minor leaguers, playing for the Florida Marlins’ affiliate in Albuquerque, with 28 home runs.
This is HOT Vlad and his band of wimps!
i would gladly take the 95 Ks
to have any one of our players hitting like he is right now
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by howiestheman on Jun 29, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Trade for Bengie Molina.
"Never throw the ball so far over the fence where you can't go back and get it." Chuck Knox quoted through Darryl Henley
I agree completely Rev
GA has an OPS of .477 in June in 80 ABs, how Soth can keep not only playing him but batting him 3rd is beyond comprehension. Reggie Willits has a higher OBP than GA despite hitting in the 160’s.
The 5th paragraph of yours is key. Its very hard to fix the Angels w/o making some very tough choices for Soth. If they want to make any major changes to their lineup they pretty much have to admit that GMJ was a huge mistake or that GA is about done. I really doubt either of those decisions gets made barring a 15 game losing streak.
come on
This isn’t a slump. Our hitting has been a problem all year and we are going nowhere in the playoffs if we don’t turn it around. Who do I blame? Soth. His lineups are complete garbage! GA 3rd?? GMJ playing over Rivera?? It hasn’t worked all year, what makes him think it’s going to work all of a sudden?
Write to the Angels front office. Get Tim Salmon's number 15 retired!
Well, on the upside:
How the hell can dodger fans celebrate the fact that they just got no-hit?
This is embarassing for us, but only slightly less embarassing for them, no?
Willits needs to play, every, single, freaking, day. Now.
Unless he breaks his leg
GA isn’t going anywhere. However, batting him 3rd or 4th (or even 5th) is criminal when our offense can’t score a single frickin’ run two nights in a row against the Dodgers! Bat him 7th, and rotate him between LF/DH. Then, if he suddenly turns it on like second half last year (not impossible), move him up to 5th or even 4th.
The real Steve Finley this year is GMJ. At what point does Sosh realize he has reverted to his true abilities, and give Rivera a real chance. Even if Willits could reproduce his first half next year, we have enough slap-happy single hitters (Figgy, Aybar/Izturis) in the lineup already and we need another power hitter. For some reason I cannot understand, Sosh has decided that JR can’t reproduce what he did in ‘06, so he is rotting on the bench while we flail away at offense. Maybe JR made a pass at Sosh’s wife?
My other beef is the Mathis/Napoli thing. How many times does Johnny have to (literally) throw a game away before Sosh gets over his man-crush on him? I really hope last night was the last straw.
I truly believe that the following line-up could score 4-6 runs per night and even beat the Red Sux in a playoff:
Figgy, 3B
Admiral, SS
Vladdy, RF
Kotch, 1B
Hula-dula, CF
JR, DH/LF
GA, LF/DH
Howie, 2B
Side Salad, C
Some shuffling is permissible, but those are the nine we should go with for the next 4-6 weeks, and see if I am right.
K-brothers rule! (Kendrick & Kotch)
i completely agree with everything...
except the lineup. my ideal, which i truly believe would win us a World Series, is
Figgins 3B
Aybar/Izturis SS
Kotch 1B
Vladdy RF/DH
Hunter CF
Morales DH/LF/RF
Howie 2B
Old Man River LF/DH
Napoli C
Anderson has no business batting anywhere higher than 7th, but i place him 8th because Howie rakes batting 7th, and is also a better hitter.
You honestly can’t go wrong with Aybar or Izturis in the 2 hole.
Kotch is a perfect 3 or 5 hitter. i like him at 3. He and Hula Dula could easily be switched, though.
K-Mo batting 6 is perfect as well. he’ll drive in runs, but there’s not too much pressure on him in the 6 hole. next year, he could go to 5 or 4.
and Naps needs to start every game. period.
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by howiestheman on Jun 29, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
scoscia likes a player batting 9th to have speed
so they are in essence a second leadoff man. Also, aybar hasnt really produced batting second, while maicer is nails at second.
I AM THOR, GOD OF THUNDER. BOW TO MY WILL AND MY HAMMER!
by anaheim angels on Jun 29, 2008 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's a shovel
Let’s bury GMJ and pretend that he’s not on the bench.
by Chris Knapp's Sac on Jun 29, 2008 11:25 AM PDT reply actions
Agree on the OF problem, disagree with the overall pessimism
This team scores runs when Kendrick & Figgins are in the lineup (4.68 a game), and doesn’t when Brandon Wood, Sean Rodriguez and/or Matt Brown are in the lineup (3.77 a game).
That said, Scioscia seems uninterested in maximizing his lineup night in and night out. Here are things he could do to improve performance overnight:- When Izturis and Aybar are both healthy, limit Aybar to playing behind the groundball pitchers (Garland & Saunders), and otherwise let Izzy hit. Aybar is not a good hitter; Izzy is.
- When starting Aybar, don’t start Mathis—one hole in the lineup is enough. Napoli is, and will continue to be, a much better hitter than Mathis, with the exception of his annual nosedive slump, which seems for the moment to be over. As such, Napoli’s exile from the lineup needs to end.
- Never start G.A. against left-handers again. He’s .258/.281/.290 this year, was about the same in ‘06, plus he’s 36 years old, arthritic, and Juan Rivera is rotting on the bench.
- Never start GMJ at designated hitter. Juan Rivera is a MUCH better hitter, Reggie Willits is more appropriate in some conditions (against a pitcher with dodgy control, for example), and GMJ is probably a better defender than either Garret or Vlad at this point. Given that his only advantage is defense, not offense, it’s unconscionable that Scioscia would start him 13 times at DH.
- Stop benching Casey against lefties. No matter who the pitcher is, Casey is one of our best hitters in the lineup. There is no reason to get Robb Quinlan regular ABs, and if there was, you could do that at DH or LF.
- Get Garret the hell away from the middle of the lineup. Save 3-4-5 for people who can do something there—Casey, Vlad, Hunter, Kendrick.
- Stop confusing Aybar for a front-of-the-lineup guy. He’s not, because he can’t get on base. Izturis is, when necessary, because he can.
- Get Vlad off his feet more. Pursuant to the DH comment above, I don’t care if Vladdy feels more validated in the field; keeping him healthy and rested for playoff time is the number one priority of a season in which we’ll win the division by at least five games.
Keep in mind, we’re 5-3 on this roadtrip, and until the recent blankings had scored 47 runs in the past 9 games. Because it’s the Dodgers, and because both games have been vomit-worthy, it’s easy to overreact. This team is capable of winning the World Series as is, but it is true that Scioscia needs to start managing that way.
as always...
...the voice of (literally) REASON.
by Rev Halofan on Jun 29, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Spot on...
...can’t argue (creditably) against anything here.
The last point is very important. – it’s easy to overact because it’s the Dodgers and the last 2 games have been dire. It’s going to be okay.
I see red people
I basically agree
(see my comment above). I think we may be overreacting a bit. However, I also have to say that:
1) Home field advantage is very important against the Red Sux
2) Sosh does not always seems to focus on this, but rather gives the “vetruns” way to long to prove they suck (see, Finley, Steve)
3) Even if Sosh follows your advice exactly, this team has the ability to disappear offensively, which means the WS depends on whether we are clicking offensively in October.
Of course, you could say #3 is true of almost any playoff team, but unlike the Red Sux, who rely on patience at the plate and power, two commodities that are not so prove to slumps, we rely on batting average and aggressive baserunning, only one of which is slump-resistant.
So, while I share your overall optimism, I am a bit worried as well.
K-brothers rule! (Kendrick & Kotch)
I was going to say that
The Aybar part at least. Yeah, people think cause he’s fast, he should be up there, but Howie and Izzy are better #2 guys.
Kendrick - he's a tender little guy.
by Rally Manatee on Jun 29, 2008 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like Soth did some re-thinking last night. Today's lineup:
1) Figgins
2) Ayba
3) Vla
4) Kotchman
5) Rivera
6) GMJ
7)Napoli
8) Lackey
I hope he does some more thinking
And puts a second baseman in the lineup somewhere.
by TheTypingFiend on Jun 29, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
It's Izzy
After Kotch, before Rivera.
by TheTypingFiend on Jun 29, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Fine, except
why GMJ in CF instead of Hula-dula? I know H-D has struggled somewhat, but I’ll take him (offensively and defensively) any day over GMJ.
K-brothers rule! (Kendrick & Kotch)
First round, ho!
I believe we will make the play-offs with our current line-up. I also believe we will probably get beaten again, unless the pitching remains as stellar as is. If our starters are magically as good as they currently are, we’ll win it all, but we all know the end of the season is usually full of pitchers on the DL. 1 new bat may make a difference. That’s why the Giants went and got Lofton in ‘02. They needed a lead-off guy. We need a DH.
Kendrick - he's a tender little guy.
we've been 1 bat short for the last 6 years
that’s my theory, anyway.
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by howiestheman on Jun 29, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Ever since the Guillen benching...
which was in late September 2004. So, just under four years.
"Never throw the ball so far over the fence where you can't go back and get it." Chuck Knox quoted through Darryl Henley
by Downing Rules on Jun 30, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Ayone hear Reagins interview Friday?
I didn’t HEAR it, but saw him talking. I was at a restaurant and saw him on a t.v. in the bar. Someone told me he basically said we’re going to stand pat. No trades. Can someone fill me in? Or if there’s stuff on this in another thread, point me in the right direction.
Kendrick - he's a tender little guy.
see Stoneman, Bill.........for the better part of this decade......theres your answer
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