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Which Option will Best Help the Angels' Offensive Woes?
Benching GA/GMJ in favor of Rivera/Willits
97 votes
A Big Trade, like Willits, Adenhardt and Weaver for Ken Griffey Jr.
24 votes
A Medium Trade, like Willits and Adenhardt for Adam Dunn
72 votes
Assume The Bats to be cyclical and Hope For Better Production Soon
61 votes
Pinch Hit mid-game for Players Who are Blindly Hacking
14 votes
More Small Ball Will Get More Runs Home, so Bunt and Steal More
25 votes
Barry Bonds.
51 votes

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Lets face it

Right now, we all feel down, after losing to Fremont at home, but what is the answer? C.C. Sabathia? Jr. Griffey? Ichiro and Barry Bonds? We don’t have the pieces for a trade, and if one could be strung together, would it be worth mortgaging our future? I wish I had a funny joke or anecdote, I don’t, losing sucks. I have yet to utter an F-bomb, FUCK CHOAKLAND AND THIER CRAPPY COLORS AND STADIUM ! ! !

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jul 1, 2008 12:57 AM PDT reply actions  

that's right, but keep it in check, my man

there are still 2 games to go, and the Angels hold the mantle for now. Believe!

by yeswecan on Jul 1, 2008 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, now your back.

I told you brazil would win.

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Jul 1, 2008 2:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bonds is an UNSIGNED FREE AGENT.......we can pay him crap and he will play for us!

SIGN BONDS NINJA…...PLEASE!!!

Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by acuda27 on Jul 1, 2008 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wash your mouth out and go and stand in the corner

100 lines – “I will not blaspheme on HH”

I see red people

by The Limey on Jul 1, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

The price is right, too.

"Never throw the ball so far over the fence where you can't go back and get it." Chuck Knox quoted through Darryl Henley

by Downing Rules on Jul 1, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Bonds were an Angel

They’d have to strip the halos off the uniforms because they sold their souls to Satan.

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Jul 1, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ninja

That is worse than Soth.

Reagins is no Ninja

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Jul 1, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

yep

i can’t wait until they move to Fremont and declare themselves the “Oakland Athletics of Fremont”. Classic!

by yeswecan on Jul 1, 2008 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was there in choakland

a couple of weeks ago for beerfest, wearin my gear in a near empty stadium. However the natives in attendance heckled the hell outta me, of course I only had one thing to say, scoreboard baby, we beat the Phills 3-2, and went up by four and a half. Being hated never felt SOOO GOOOOD

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jul 1, 2008 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

you might want to try that again.

where exactly were you?

I AM THOR, GOD OF THUNDER. BOW TO MY WILL AND MY HAMMER!

by anaheim angels on Jul 1, 2008 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

AT CHOAKLAND

I got free tickets for the A’s and Marlins. However, all choakland fans in attendance felt it their duty to inform me as to every at bat while we played the Phills in Philly, that is until K-Rod shut down the Phills, and choakland lost to the Marlins 6-3

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jul 1, 2008 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

ahhh, i see. thanks for clarifying.

thats awesome.

I AM THOR, GOD OF THUNDER. BOW TO MY WILL AND MY HAMMER!

by anaheim angels on Jul 1, 2008 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

My computer screwed up, I guess i'm at my F bomb limit til August

unless of course its retroactive lol

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jul 1, 2008 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

no no no

that was July AND August … see you in September…

by Rev Halofan on Jul 1, 2008 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

OH DARN

Forgive my French Rev, you member of the linguistic Gestapo… BUT FIDDLESTICKS ! ! !

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jul 1, 2008 1:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

A's F-bombs forever.

Should have an unlimited supply for the A’s. Unfortunately I used mine on the A’s guy post. Whathisname.

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Jul 1, 2008 2:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

how does a trade for a 38 YO KGJ with a sub .389 SLG cost more than adam dunn?

my vote is to give a shot to willits and rivera. I think that if the angels are gonna give rivera more than 2 starts a month, they should sit him down, and tell him so. It seemed like he was trying to make a splash and jack every ball he saw out of the park to make an impression. If he was told hed start and his job was secure for a week or so, then i think the production wuold be alot better

I AM THOR, GOD OF THUNDER. BOW TO MY WILL AND MY HAMMER!

by anaheim angels on Jul 1, 2008 1:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Rivera was off-balance in every AB...

He was trying to swing for the fences, but forgot his form.

"Never throw the ball so far over the fence where you can't go back and get it." Chuck Knox quoted through Darryl Henley

by Downing Rules on Jul 1, 2008 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dunn is clearly superior to Griffey

The notion that Griffey has any value to someone is like another team targeting a trade for GA to boost its offense. Dunn is one of the best power hitters in the game.

My vote also goes for benching GA, releasing GMJ, giving Rivera and Willits playing time and putting Napoli at DH when he doesn’t catch. Rivera and Willits haven’t done so well because they’ve only combined for seven at-bats or so this year. Napoli is in a slump because of inconsistent playing time. Give these guys playing time and they’ll produce.

by snowhor on Jul 1, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Napoli "was" in a slump is probably a bit more accurate

he’s looked a lot better the last few games he’s played, and he’s been the only one driving in runs.

but i do agree it’s because of inconsistent playing time, which is why i hate platoons

Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.

by howiestheman on Jul 1, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Got to love that RISP. Dunn Blows

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Jul 1, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

i'm in agreement, my typist friend.

"Never throw the ball so far over the fence where you can't go back and get it." Chuck Knox quoted through Darryl Henley

by Downing Rules on Jul 1, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

BONDS BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE GOD LET THE ANGELS SIGN BARRY LAMAR BONDS!

I dont like that he used steroids, but come on who wasnt back then? He will jumpstart this offense in a heart beat at DH. We can pay him league minimum since we all know he would LOVE to play for the LAofA

Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by acuda27 on Jul 1, 2008 1:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Loud booming voice says,

“Bonds has forsaken Me, therefore I have forsaken him.”

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Jul 1, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

He forgives...

"Never throw the ball so far over the fence where you can't go back and get it." Chuck Knox quoted through Darryl Henley

by Downing Rules on Jul 1, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

i honestly dont like ANY of those solutions.......

so i would say NONE of the ABOVE….....but then the offense still sucks…......and then im still beeeeeetchin…......so i will offer a solution that isnt there…....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/06/27/trade.talk/index.html

Rays are stalking Holliday from Rockies….....so GO get him and get rid of Reggie, Rivera, Adenhart and co….............

http://www.diehard101.com/phpfox/upload/norcaliangelsbillsfan

by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 1, 2008 3:13 AM PDT reply actions  

It also mentions

Xavier Nady or Jason Bay. I like either of those guys more than Holliday. But how the hell do we convince Reagins to make a move? I feel so impotent (as in powerless).

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Jul 1, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

holliday is a sketchy move.

all his numbers are bloated
because he plays that home run eden known as coors field

i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all

by halofan4life on Jul 2, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I posted this awesome

long thought out post that took me a solid half hour.

Then the “back button” on my mouse struck!

Woe is me.

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on Jul 1, 2008 4:15 AM PDT reply actions  

the griffey trade is a terrible proposition

that would sell the farm for a half season of power-ish hitting from a guy who is going to want a multi-year contract but can barely walk to the top of the dugout steps.

and i realize that adam dunn is universally disliked by joe morgan types, but he is one of the top power hitters in the game, and landing him would take a lot more than reggie willits and nick adenhart. think howie kendrick or ervin santana. not that i’m advocating that. i just think you’re selling dunn way too short.

by Captain Awesome on Jul 1, 2008 5:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Barry Bonda?? In all honesty

I’d rather burn the fucking stadium to the ground and scatter the franchise to the 4 winds than have that son of a bitch in Halo colors.

Do you have a moment to hear about the Church of Fregosi?

by HaloDutch on Jul 1, 2008 5:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Tony Reagins MUST take action!!!

Forget Griffey, Bonds or Dunn.

1) Do a salary dump on GMJ. Admit the mistake and move on.
2) Make a run at Matt Holiday, Grady Sizemore or some other young stud hitter
3) Keep Rivera, get him ABs

by mustard_man on Jul 1, 2008 7:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Dude Sizemore is not on the block.

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Jul 1, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

It does not cost anything for Reagins to try...

This team needs bold action – why not try to get a player of Sizemore’s capabilities? If Reagins tries and Cleveland is not interested – so be it. BUT AT LEAST SHOW CREATIVITY AND INNOVATION TO IMPROVE THIS TEAM!!!!

The Halos do not need a KGJ or Dunn – it will do nothing long-term to improve the franchise.

by mustard_man on Jul 2, 2008 5:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

My point is don't get your hopes up

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Jul 2, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

how do 2 and 3 work?

if we get holliday or sizemore, and drop GMJ, our OF would be Vlad, Torii, and Siziday. There wouldnt be much room for juan espescially with GA stealing some DH

I AM THOR, GOD OF THUNDER. BOW TO MY WILL AND MY HAMMER!

by anaheim angels on Jul 1, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Softball-style...

four-man outfield.

"Never throw the ball so far over the fence where you can't go back and get it." Chuck Knox quoted through Darryl Henley

by Downing Rules on Jul 1, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahhh, the old 10 defenders

i like

I AM THOR, GOD OF THUNDER. BOW TO MY WILL AND MY HAMMER!

by anaheim angels on Jul 2, 2008 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Soth calling in

on 830 AM shortly. Gee, wonder what they are gonna ask him about?

Let no joyful voice be heard! Let no man look up at the sky with hope! And let this day be cursed by we who ready to wake... the K-Rod!

by Scuff on Jul 1, 2008 8:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Curious to know what he'll say

Can’t listen to radio here. Please recap :-)

by infant on Jul 1, 2008 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not much. It was a rather short segement.

The first question to Soth of course was regarding the recent offensive slump. His repsonses were pretty generic but he did mention that they are noticing a lot of “uneveness” with regards to guys up at the plate. On one end, they’ve got guys getting up there and literaly swinging for the fences (i.e. showing very little plate discipline becuase they feel pressure to get something going) at every at-bat and at the same time they’ve got guys that are taking at-bats with very little agressiveness. It sounds like Soth was saying that there is almost no sync in the line-up that we all used to take for granted as automatic (Figgy gets the lead-off hit, Izzy kocks him over to third, Big Daddy steps up to serve up a RibEye, etc.)

Soth also mentioned that they have every confidence in the offense they have now. They’ve known that since the beginning of the year. Not sure how to read that, but it sounds like they are just going to continue to work with what they have.

On a funny side note, on a later segement, they had Bob Boone (Washington Nats player development) on as a guest and they asked him about what he thought of the Angels current scoring slump and he was basically like “Boo-Hoo, Cry Me a River”. I guess he meant that sometimes premier teams like the Angels often forget how good they have it compared to the rest of the league

Let no joyful voice be heard! Let no man look up at the sky with hope! And let this day be cursed by we who ready to wake... the K-Rod!

by Scuff on Jul 1, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bob Boone...

isn’t he a former catcher who sells flooring in Anaheim? ;)

"Never throw the ball so far over the fence where you can't go back and get it." Chuck Knox quoted through Darryl Henley

by Downing Rules on Jul 1, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

What "farm" exactly are we talking about?

Is this the “farm” that can’t hit a damn? Is this the “farm” that is absolutely EMBARRASSING us, even against mediocre pitching? I mean we got shutdown by Derek Lowe for crissakes. What else needs to happen before we press the panic button? I despise Bonds, so that is off the table, but otherwise any of the poll ideas sounds good to me. Yes, we have good pitching, but losing games 3 to zero as we get swept in the playoffs is no consolation. As much as I dislike Oakland (even being relocated to the Bay Area), they are doing almost as well as us with a little over 1/3 our payroll. Yes, they can’t attract fans even giving away tix, but that is not the point.

by BayAreaDM on Jul 1, 2008 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

im actually surprised at how many people want to sign Barry

i was honestly just opening it up for debate. it’s very interesting

Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.

by howiestheman on Jul 1, 2008 10:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Shows how fickle most fans are

How many of you Bonds proponents were blasting him with F-bombs a year ago?

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Jul 1, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know

It will be so much fun to watch Boston, TB and Fremont upgrade at the deadline while we do nothing.

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Jul 1, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

hey, i already stated that i'm not a fan of the guy

but it’s hard to ignore the numbers.

personally, i think he’s a douchebag. but if he’s a douchebag that’ll help bring us a ring, then you have to at least consider it.

Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.

by howiestheman on Jul 1, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've never given him a hard time...

yeah, he’s a jerk of a person, but why does he have to be the scapegoat for the ENTIRE steroids generation of baseball?

"Never throw the ball so far over the fence where you can't go back and get it." Chuck Knox quoted through Darryl Henley

by Downing Rules on Jul 1, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Board Game.

That is who I want.

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Jul 1, 2008 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Premonition?

About five days ago, I woke up in the morning after having a dream that, yes in fact, we had traded for Milton Bradley.

Can’t remember who we traded but it was some AA guy.

I was extremely vivid.

I actually had to stop and think to realize it hadn’t actually happened.

Weird.

by SoCalWine on Jul 1, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope you are correct!

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Jul 1, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

there is no way that barry bonds will even be productive for the angels.

I dont hate barry, but i would advise against signing him unless it is part of a major OF change (invloving getting rid of GMJ). We already have 6 OFers. We dont need anyother (well, he really wouldnt be able to play the OF, since he is horrible in the field). He would be a fulltime DH. And he doesnt fit with our philosophy at all. If he bats 4th, infront of torii (would scoscia do back to back lefties), he will walk about 25% of the time. He miht not be able to score on a double. Say goodbye to first to 3rd. say goodbye to agressive baseball when bonds steps to the plate (or on the bases). I dont believe in “clogging the bases” (the term is stupid, baser runners are a good thing) but bonds wont be able to run the bases, and with our singles hitting lineup, it will take 3 hits after he gets on base to score a run.

I AM THOR, GOD OF THUNDER. BOW TO MY WILL AND MY HAMMER!

by anaheim angels on Jul 1, 2008 12:17 PM PDT reply actions  

The real problems with Bonds

1. He is famously anti-Angels-way; as others have said, he represents everything the Angels don’t want to appear to be in public.
2. His high-OBP, high-SLG approach seems to confuse the Angels. The .276/.480/.565 line he put up last year would make him first on the team in OBP and SLG.
3. As AA described in the parent, even if he gets on base, there are real questions as to whether he would be able to score from second on a single. There are few players out there for whom OBP is not an intrinsic advantage, but Bonds would gum up the Angels baserunning advantages, requiring more SLG from the batters behind him than they might be able to provide.
4. He would disrupt that DH-as-rest-home-for-Vlad-etc. plan that Scioscia and Stoneman/Reagins have cooked up since 2004.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Jul 1, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are talking about 2008 final stretch...

so I don’t see Bounds disrupting #4, although, I only see Vladdy sticking around until next year, when we will pick up the club option, then let him walk.

Scioscia Says: "There are some hitters that need to start to see more pitches and work some counts, but there are guys that are more productive seeing that fastball and squaring it up. There are different solutions to each hitter and that's what you're working for. There's no pill you give to the whole team and have them all of sudden get into your offense."

by Downing Rules on Jul 1, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

probably the most sense in this whole thread

Those are all reasons that Bonds-to-Anaheim will never happen. On top of that, there’s no way of determining he can even come close to the same numbers he had last year if the Angels signed him. Hes a year older, and in the big boy league.

So lets forget the Bonds talk, and move on to the first option, which the most people here seem to be in favor of anyways. Give Rivera and Willits 2-3 weeks to see if they can give this line-up some continuity. If we get near the deadline and see that its still not enough, then explore the trade market. But I honestly don’t think anything dramatic needs to be done. There isn’t a move out there that would turn the Angels into an offensive powerhouse. But all we really need to be is an average offense with our pitching as good as it is. And that can be accomplished with a few minor in-house tweaks, hurting the feelings of a couple of veterans, and maximizing the potential of our lineup (such as Kotchman batting 3rd or 4th instead of 7th or 8th).

by dmhead on Jul 2, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

you have to at least give him a look

personally, i think this team wide funk is temporary as it has it us the last few seasons. we should at least give it a week to work itself out. THEN, if we are serious about adding another bat, reagins has to to his due dilligence and look ast all options. which means, giving bonds a look.

by SCHalo on Jul 1, 2008 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Bonds

would be too much of a distraction. Don’t even have to get into the rest of it.

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Jul 1, 2008 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Bonds is Darth Vader and GA blooping it into left so Bonds can boot it

while Desmond takes third lathered with Joe Buck’s idiotic commentary about how Desmond caused Barry to whiff will never be the same if Bonds becomes an Angel.

Doesn’t signing Bonds sound like sleeping with your older step-sister?

by melvintoast on Jul 2, 2008 5:41 AM PDT reply actions  

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