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Angels-A's Unheralded Rivalry is Best in Baseball

At some point – I can’t recall for sure when it was, but I am gonna say 1999, at that point, the hype over the Boston/New York American League rivalry heated up. The media coverage accelerated each season. Now, that is a long, bitter and emotional rivalry, no doubt, but the acceleration has done a few things to skew coverage away from baseball as a whole – and this is bad enough to demand a moratorium on the Boston-NY AL rivalry – but the 24/7 hype around that mutual civic antipathy has diminished other divisional rivalries to the point of trivial asterisks, oddities, surprising microcosms ignored by the media in favor of replaying seven angles of Pedro skullfucking Don Zimmer, or Jason Varitek rubbing his fist and erection against his mancrush enemy A-Rod.

Dodgers-Giants:
Ignored ... Cubs/Cardinals: Ignored ... Angels/Athletics: Ignored.

Since the 2002 season, the Angels/Athletics rivalry has easily been the best in baseball. These teams have had more great games between them in the past 6.5 seasons than any 2 in baseball. The BOSNY affair gets the coverage, but tell all the snowbelt inbreds that the most incredible baseball passion is found on the left coast, in the American League, between the Haloed red and the green-and-gold.

Every one of these games has an exciting tension and batter-per-batter gamesmanship. I am always up to see these games because they bring out the best in both squads – most of the games are actually a battle for something and the thoroughness of each contest is as complete a baseball experience as a fan could ever get, save for the spoonfed Bosnyan bandwagoneers in their pink nation pinstripes.

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i love these games because they're close and exciting

but i dread them because the A’s are always on our butts, they scare me no matter who they have on their and because at some point, too much stress becomes unhealthy.

screw you, mainstream media. i refuse to buy into the crap you try to sell me… that BOSNY is the greatest rivalry in sports and that those 2 teams are the best. you can shove it. \m/

Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.

by howiestheman on Jul 1, 2008 10:59 PM PDT   0 recs

Nice Eucharist Rev!

This is my body…....this is my blood! Go Angels!

Frankie Rodriquez is our savior!

by 44FAN on Jul 1, 2008 11:07 PM PDT   0 recs

I remember the REAL bad blood days between the Dodgers/Giants

It is unfortunate, but what made that hatred rivalry a national passion was the fact that violence occasionally ensued. That was the measure of how bad the blood was between the teams.

Modern free agency and player movement dilute the team allegiances to the extent that personal health and career maintenance tend to outweigh any commitment to brute force to impose one’s will.

If TB and Boston keep at each other with brawls and balls, and TB sustains their new-found success, their rivalry will overshadow that between NY and Boston. And if the Halos/A’s rivalry every gets personal and draws blood, the national media will start paying attention.

Glorious baseball alone will not do it. Sad, but true.

by Stirrups on Jul 1, 2008 11:46 PM PDT   0 recs

Since 2002:

Angels vs. Athletics, 124 games

Angels: 62 wins
Athletics: 62 wins

Angels: 3 division titles
Athletics: 3 division titles

Then of course, we have the heated fights, such as the Lackey/Kendall affair, the fan taunting about the team naming issues and sabremetrics and Billy Beane bullshit, and us having the world title to hold over their heads. And, of course…the unheard-of number of 1-run games the two teams have had.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 2, 2008 12:09 AM PDT   0 recs

Don't forget drunk El Monte-local throwing a water bottle at Mike Pizza.

Hopefully, that guy never sets foot in any stadium again.

Scioscia Says: "There are some hitters that need to start to see more pitches and work some counts, but there are guys that are more productive seeing that fastball and squaring it up. There are different solutions to each hitter and that's what you're working for. There's no pill you give to the whole team and have them all of sudden get into your offense."

by Downing Rules on Jul 2, 2008 9:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL....

Great example of my point – for most LAAoA fans Angels history began in 2002…...

by BleacherDave on Jul 4, 2008 9:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Um

I’ve probably forgotten more about the Angels last 15 years of history than you’ll ever know about your sorry-ass team, moron.

It just-so-happens that the rivalry between these two teams has been most heated over that stretch BECAUSE of the World Title, and the constantly regular season in-fighting. Not to mention, it also just-so-happens that over that stretch of time the two teams are exactly .500 with one another…if I wanted to move the date further back, I would, but if you wanna go ahead and read the context of my remarks, you’d see I was referring to an original post in which we have been discussing the extent of the rivalry during such a span.

But I guess I shouldn’t exactly expect you to be able to read, what with your head so far up your ass and all.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 4, 2008 4:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Angels Vs. A's

Reminds me alot of UCLA and SC, no one outside of SoCal really cares about the rivalry or passion of the fans. Not too mention how exciting or close the games have been, or what they have meant to the teams involved. So our game won’t lead sports center, big deal, we all know what a great game this was, screw the peeps back in Bristol.

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jul 2, 2008 12:25 AM PDT   0 recs

It's a great philosophical clash, too

Between the Moneyball extremists and the first-to-third, Productive Outs anachronists. Though I wish our “program” included more nurturing of the take-n-rake skills, it’s fun to watch such a huge contrast, and how specifically it affects strategy in games between them.

Example: Angels starters have long since understood that the key to facing Oakland is to pound in first-pitch fastball strikes, because they ain’t swinging. So Santana does that last night, and - wonder of wonders! - the A’s are uncharacteristically swinging, and jumping out to a 2-0 lead. So he adjusts, starts throwing first-pitch sliders for strikes, and keeps us in the game. Great stuff.

by mattwelch on Jul 2, 2008 5:06 AM PDT   0 recs

A real Rivalry

because its always competitive. The BOSNY tilt was so often one-sided it barely qualifies.

Angels/A’s gets the blood going.

I’ll say this for A’s fans…they’re considerable less annoying than NY or BAHHHHston fans.

Do you have a moment to hear about the Church of Fregosi?

by HaloDutch on Jul 2, 2008 5:59 AM PDT   0 recs

That's because there's only about 15 of them

If there were unfettered hordes like NY/Boston, they’d be very annoying..

I see red people

by The Limey on Jul 2, 2008 8:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

One reason it might be overlooked too

Is that other than the Kendall/Lackey fight the two clubs haven’t had that much animosity towards each other. Yes the games are almost always close and it’s been going on for awhile now, but at least I don’t get the sense of hatred. On the last day of Tim Salmon’s career all of the A’s stood at the top of their dugout and applauded along with Angels fans for King Fish. That showed a lot of class.

I will say though that the fans have a lot of hatred towards each other. Especially on the A’s side. There is this running hatred that No. Cal residents have towards So. Cal that we reciprocate at maybe 10% there level. I think we are too busy having a good time to care that much about it. They are all just jealous as well that they live in a hell hole. I went to an Angels/A’s game in Oakland last year after going to see Angels/M’s in Seattle (which is an awesome city). Oakland must have the biggest crime rate ever because literally every 10th car was a police car. The city looked run down and pitiful. I can see why they are moving a distance away.

by MH252525 on Jul 2, 2008 8:09 AM PDT   0 recs

Yah, but those bums wouldn't give Salmon a meat pitch to drive...

to get his 300th…they threw nothing over the middle; instead throwing inside or outside on him.

(I mean this as a joke, I understand that nobody in their right mind would want to intentionally give up a homer while pitching).

Scioscia Says: "There are some hitters that need to start to see more pitches and work some counts, but there are guys that are more productive seeing that fastball and squaring it up. There are different solutions to each hitter and that's what you're working for. There's no pill you give to the whole team and have them all of sudden get into your offense."

by Downing Rules on Jul 2, 2008 9:15 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Me 3.

Scioscia Says: "There are some hitters that need to start to see more pitches and work some counts, but there are guys that are more productive seeing that fastball and squaring it up. There are different solutions to each hitter and that's what you're working for. There's no pill you give to the whole team and have them all of sudden get into your offense."

by Downing Rules on Jul 2, 2008 11:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

huh... something we can actually agree on

"The Athletics at Fremont" is pretty bad

by ArakSOT on Jul 2, 2008 9:14 AM PDT   0 recs

You gotta hand it to the A's...

Pretty amazing coming out of nowhere this year and competing. Makes this rivalry more fun.

I know a lot of East Bay folks and they are mostly pretty good people. So, I think the fans hating each other ideas are invalid. There are North-South issues in Cali, but I think the more bitter rivalry is the Dodgers-Giants. A’s-Angels is fairly friendly by my accounts.

Scioscia Says: "There are some hitters that need to start to see more pitches and work some counts, but there are guys that are more productive seeing that fastball and squaring it up. There are different solutions to each hitter and that's what you're working for. There's no pill you give to the whole team and have them all of sudden get into your offense."

by Downing Rules on Jul 2, 2008 11:22 AM PDT   0 recs

Last night's game exemplified the rivalry nicely (prompting this diary, I suppose)

Oh, and this is possibly the pantherest sentence you’ve ever written here:

”...surprising microcosms ignored by the media in favor of replaying seven angles of Pedro skullfucking Don Zimmer, or Jason Varitek rubbing his fist and erection against his mancrush enemy A-Rod.”

by Higz on Jul 2, 2008 12:23 PM PDT   0 recs

Hatred and "Hatred"

The A’s fans do hate the Angels—but on baseball terms. The Angels are the rivals who beat their team and prevent their team from reaching the playoffs every other year. So of course they hate the Angels. Hell, I hate the A’s for the same reasons, so it’s reciprocal.

by Riverrun on Jul 2, 2008 1:13 PM PDT   0 recs

Hate the Angels?

Those johnny-come-lately upstarts with the cute little monkey? No way. Great pitching, aggressive ball, a Black GM, and the most Brothas on the team in the league. I like the Angels more than any other AL team than the A’s.

The Giants are team A’s fans love to hate.

by BleacherDave on Jul 4, 2008 9:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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