$15 million/per is WAY too much to be paying a guy that makes, what, 60-65 appearances throughout the year?

let him walk.

then let him do whatever he’s going to do. But at least this time we can be sure we get a draft pick.

However, Frankie didn’t say he’ll automatically go to the highest bidder. It may depend on what teams want to pick him up. I can’t imagine that K-Rod would want to play for someone other than a winner. We’ll have to see what happens.

we NEED to bring someone up or start grooming someone to fill his shoes!

i think f-rod is a phenomenal closer but he gives me the impression that he is all about himself and not about the team. so lets do him one better and trade his ass for someone, we/reagins would be foolish to let him walk for nothing and he would be foolish to resign this guy for 15 mil per when his numbers are slipping!

frankie for a power bat straight up? what do you think?

didnt he say this already in march?

are we so obsessed with th money angle… like its our own we are spending. Yes we should be concerned with the price of gas and other essential items, and yes sports stars do make way too much money, but at this point it’s all monopoly money anyways right?
Lets say that we would be willing to pay 14-15 mill a year for him and the winning ‘bidder” for his services are the Yankees who will pay him 17 million. Are we willing to let him walk over a couple of million? I can understand the releuctance but in the end just pull the trigger.
If all he does is win us 8-10 games more than his replacement closer would do (you figure 40 saves on average for K-Rod and 30 or so from a decent replacement) it is still worth it. What would we win the division by 3-4 games?
Suck it up, pay him the money hope he gives us a hometown discount and realize that it is our penalty for not locking him up last year for probably 4 years and 55 mil

Anything higher seems excesive. He averages 76 innings a year (excluding his rookie year and this one). 15 million is still alot. That is pretty much paying him 67,500 dollars per out he makes. Yes, it is during the most critical part of the game and his performance is the difference between a win and a loss.
IF K-rod leaves (just because he is going to test FA, doesnt mean that he will leave the angels) then we need to get another reliever. The only teams that theoritically have the funds to sign him are:
Cubs, Boston, Tampa, St Louis, NYM, Yankees, Texas, Detroit, Atlanta, Houston.
Not all of them are reasonable though. Immediately, the cubs, boston and yankees are pretty much eliminated since they already have closers. Tampa i would think would want to keep their payroll low, and probably would not make a serious effort, especially with the much cheaper Percival on their roster. Texas needs starting pitching more than relief, and they will probably need to severely overpay to add it. Detroit has bigger holes to fill, and they have Zumaya. Same with the Mets, they need other positions besides closer, and wont spend all their money on one player. Atlanta and Houston might be options, but i doubt frankie would go there, since they dont have great teams. That really just leaves St. Louis. Unless the management really convinces Frankie though, it would be a longshot for him to go there. A dark horse suitor might be cleveland though. They have a relatively low payroll, and could use a closer.
The only teams i think that would consider signing him are the Rays, Cards, and Indians. Maybe the Diamondbacks, but they have a decent closer already.
What is nice for is that not only will frankies 10 MM dollars come of the books, but so will GAs 12 MM and Garlands 12MM. Thats 34 million right there. If we can somehow pull of a trade of GMJ and only eat say 1/3 of his salary then thats another 7 MM a year. That means we could be going into the offseason minus 40 million dollars. What should we do with it? According to the Revs fanpost last year http://www.halosheaven.com/story/2007/10/10/33034/101 we have some time before we are going to go to arb with kotch, kendrick, etc.. (2011 and 2012). We could sign Frankie for a 3 year contract (09-12) and when the contract runs out, let him walk, pick up the draft picks, and free up cap to resign our core long term. Also, Lackey will need to be resigned after next year. Im thinking hell probably get about 4 years 60 million or so. Vlad will probably get alot cheaper after next season as well. Basically, we can afford to sign K-Rod without killing our entire cap (it would help if we could dump GMJ). But again, if we let Garland walk, then we would need another SP until the ASB when kelvim returns. I think that Moseley/ Adenhart/ Green hsould be able to get the job done.
But another real question is, “Could frankie be the first HOF player that could conceivably go in with the Angels logo?” How much is that worth to the angels? 15 MM sounds alot more reasonable now…

42% feel his post-save antics are lame anyways.

Here you have the best closer in team history, a guy who is most likely of anyone to be a career-Angel Hall of Famer, who is still pitching very effectively, is still very young, and has developed a wicked change-up this year while reducing the stress in his mechanics (and weathering an initial rough patch because of it) ... and you all want to quibble over the difference between $14 million and $17 million year?

I will bookmark this thread, like I did when lots at this site whined like curs when we traded the immortal Jose Molina, and will shame you this time next year if the unlikely happens and we don’t sign Frankie to the most expensive closer contract in history.

Here’s the news—Over the past half-decade, Arte’s valuation has more than doubled, revenues have come close (I think), yet payroll is absolutely flat in inflation-adjusted terms. WE HAVE MONEY TO PAY LEGITIMATE HALL-OF-FAME TALENT. Your Beane-counting is better directed at GMJ signings than trying to hold onto the best reliever this franchise will likely ever see.

When we are old, we may all have to buy pacemakers sooner than other teams’ fans, but at least we’ll have World Championships. Frankie is the best in the game right now, and I think he will continue to be for the next 3-5 years.

Send him to Milwaukee and see what premium outfield talent they can get for him.

My biggest issue with no pursuing K-Rod in the off-season is how it will affect the rest of the pen. You CAN’T just throw in Bulger or Thompson or count on Speier figuring shit out. Losing K-Rod forces Shields, a great setup man that can go two innings and pitch four times a week, into the closing spot. We lose one inning in a close game right there. That means Arredondo’s going two. But let’s say he pitched two last night, and we need 7th, 8th and 9th locked up tonight. Arredondo 8th, Shields 9th. Who’s pitching the 7th?

The loss of K-Rod has a domino affect on the rest of the pen which, from what I’ve skimmed, isn’t being taken into consideration. So I’m with Welch. Sign the fuck.

Will he be healthy by next season? He could be in the running for closer. Or, others have mentioned splitting the role between Dondo and Shields, or maybe Dondo and a healthy Escobar.

I’m with Matt.

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It’s hard to believe the Angels have let K-Rod get to within months of free agency. “It’s something I can’t control,’’ Francisco Rodriguez said. He didn’t sound all that disappointed, however. “The market’s going to change. Every year it goes higher and higher,’’ he said. One baseball exec predicted that K-Rod would get $15 million a year. “He’s better than Rivera,’’ that exec opined. I’m not sure that’s possible (even K-Rod wouldn’t agree—“I have a lot of work to do to be compared with him,’’ he said), but he’s pretty good.

Seems pretty humble to me…....................................................................................

There is no such thing as team loyalty anymore. It’s all about the money. It makes me sick. These over-grown babies should just shut up and be happy they get paid as much as they do. There are people out there working A LOT harder making A LOT less!