CONGER: 3 HR in 1 Game

Better form a CONGER line!!

Huh? Huh? anybody? Eh, what do you know from funny.

Gather around, children, for the Legend of Mighty Kirk McCaskill

by HaloDutch on Jul 17, 2008 7:07 AM PDT reply actions

lol King Conger?

oh man

http://www.diehard101.com/phpfox/upload/norcaliangelsbillsfan

by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 17, 2008 9:44 AM PDT reply actions

The Wrath of Conger

I bleed Angel red

by squarefootnatlpark on Jul 17, 2008 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions

If King=Felix

pass, thx

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Jul 17, 2008 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Injuries sure have been a problem for him

There are some who think his bat could play at first; obviously he has more value behind the plate, but there are problems with his mobility from what I recall.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Jul 17, 2008 10:48 AM PDT reply actions

Sounds nice but this guy aint the answer

unless he gets a whole lot better.

Look at D-Mac’s minor league numbers:

Year  Age Tm  Lg  Lvl Aff   G    AB    R    H   2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB   
+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+
 2001   20 PRV PIO Rk  ANA   31   124   30   49  11   0   5   29   12 
 2002   21 CRP MWL A   ANA  132   499   71  138  24   3  15   88   78 
 2003   22 TOT              105   394   87  122  30   7  23   86   60 
           RCQ CAL A+  ANA   77   292   65   90  21   6  18   59   41 
           ARK TEX AA  ANA   28   102   22   32   9   1   5   27   19 
 2004   23 TOT              135   521  107  165  36  14  40  126   57 
           ARK TEX AA  ANA   68   262   53   84  17   6  20   69   34 
           SLK PCL AAA ANA   67   259   54   81  19   8  20   57   23 
 2005   24 TOT               22    79   12   24   4   3   8   26   10 
           ANG AZL Rk  LAA    3     9    1    2   1   1   0    2    0 
           RCQ CAL A+  LAA    5    16    3    7   2   0   2    5    3 
           SLK PCL AAA LAA   14    54    8   15   1   2   6   19    7 
 2006   25 SLK PCL AAA LAA   56   208   35   52  11   5  17   45   15 
 2008   27 ABQ PCL AAA FLA   87   301   65   89  12   3  32   71   55 
+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+
 2 Seasons         Rk        34   133   31   51  12   1   5   31   12 
 1 Season          A        132   499   71  138  24   3  15   88   78 
 2 Seasons         A+        82   308   68   97  23   6  20   64   44 
 2 Seasons         AA        96   364   75  116  26   7  25   96   53 
 4 Seasons         AAA      224   822  162  237  43  18  75  192  100 
+-----------------+---+--------+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+
 7 Seasons                  568  2126  407  639 128  35 140  471  287 
+-----------------+------------+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+

SO    BA   OBP   SLG   OPS   SB   CS  SB%  SH  SF IBB HBP GDP  
----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---+
  22  .395  .449  .605 1.054    1   0 100%                     
 128  .277  .374  .427  .801   30   6  83%                     
 104  .310  .401  .596  .997   16   6  73%                     
  79  .308  .393  .606  .999   12   6  67%                     
  25  .314  .421  .569  .990    4   0 100%                     
 169  .317  .384  .670 1.054   12   8  60%                     
  74  .321  .399  .660 1.059    6   5  55%                     
  95  .313  .369  .680 1.049    6   3  67%                     
  29  .304  .380  .734 1.114    2   3  40%   0   2   2   1   1 
   5  .222  .222  .556  .778    0   0        0   0   0   0   0 
   4  .438  .550  .938 1.488    1   1  50%   0   0   2   1   0 
  20  .278  .349  .704 1.053    1   2  33%   0   2   0   0   1 
  88  .250  .307  .596  .903    3   1  75%   0   4   0   4   0 
 112  .296  .403  .674 1.077   10   5  67%   0   4   1   2   4 
----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---+
  27  .383  .434  .602 1.036    1   0 100%   0   0   0   0   0 
 128  .277  .374  .427  .801   30   6  83%                     
  83  .315  .402  .623 1.025   13   7  65%   0   0   2   1   0 
  99  .319  .405  .635 1.040   10   5  67%                     
 315  .288  .366  .658 1.024   20  11  65%   0  10   1   6   5 
----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 652  .301  .384  .591  .975   74  29  72%   0  10   3   7   5 
----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---+

And for all you dick wood lovers, compare:

  Year  Age Tm  Lg  Lvl Aff   G    AB    R    H   2B  3B  HR  RBI  
+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+-+
 2003   18 TOT               61   240   39   69  21   4   5   44   
           ANG AZL Rk  ANA   19    78   14   24   8   2   0   13   
           PRV PIO Rk  ANA   42   162   25   45  13   2   5   31   
 2004   19 CRP MWL A   ANA  125   478   65  120  30   5  11   64   
 2005   20 TOT              134   555  110  178  53   5  43  116   
           RCQ CAL A+  LAA  130   536  109  172  51   4  43  115   
           SLK PCL AAA LAA    4    19    1    6   2   1   0    1   
 2006   21 ARK TEX AA  LAA  118   453   74  125  42   4  25   83   
 2007   22 SLK PCL AAA LAA  111   437   73  119  27   1  23   77   
 2008   23 SLK PCL AAA LAA   61   248   45   64  14   2  14   42   
+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+-+
 1 Season          Rk        61   240   39   69  21   4   5   44   
 1 Season          A        125   478   65  120  30   5  11   64   
 1 Season          A+       130   536  109  172  51   4  43  115   
 1 Season          AA       118   453   74  125  42   4  25   83   
 3 Seasons         AAA      176   704  119  189  43   4  37  120   
+-----------------+---+--------+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+-+
 6 Seasons                  610  2411  406  675 187  21 121  426   
+-----------------+------------+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+-+

BB   SO    BA   OBP   SLG   OPS   SB   CS  SB%  SH  SF IBB HBP GDP
---+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---
 20   63  .288  .342  .471  .813    4   1  80%                    
  4   15  .308  .341  .462  .803    3   0 100%                    
 16   48  .278  .343  .475  .818    1   1  50%                    
 46  117  .251  .317  .404  .721   21   5  81%                    
 48  134  .321  .381  .667 1.048    7   3  70%   2   2   5   7  12
 48  128  .321  .383  .672 1.055    7   3  70%   2   2   5   7  12
  0    6  .316  .316  .526  .842    0   0        0   0   0   0   0
 54  149  .276  .355  .552  .907   19   3  86%   1   8   1   6  10
 45  120  .272  .338  .497  .835   10   1  91%   0   5   0   1  10
 23   65  .258  .328  .500  .828    3   3  50%   0   0   1   3   4
---+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---
 20   63  .288  .342  .471  .813    4   1  80%                    
 46  117  .251  .317  .404  .721   21   5  81%                    
 48  128  .321  .383  .672 1.055    7   3  70%   2   2   5   7  12
 54  149  .276  .355  .552  .907   19   3  86%   1   8   1   6  10
 68  191  .268  .334  .499  .833   13   4  76%   0   5   1   4  14
---+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---
236  648  .280  .346  .526  .872   64  16  80%   3  15   7  17  36
---+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---

If only D-Mac had stayed healthy…

by melvintoast on Jul 17, 2008 1:04 PM PDT reply actions

Uh... Through age 23, Wood seems to kick D-Mac's backside up one street and down the other.

Was that your point?

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Jul 17, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Really? How do you figure?

Thru 23:

D-mac has a BA of .310 and SLG of .592 with 1 HR per 17 ABs
In his 23rd year he was slugging in the .660-680 range with a .310+ average and 80 HRs

Dick has BA of .287 and SLG of .546 with 1 HR per 19 ABs
In his 23rd year he is slugging .500 with a .258 BA and 14 HRs in 61 games.

How do you conclude that Dick is better?

by melvintoast on Jul 17, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions

1.The fact that he was playing at AAA by the time D-Mac reached Rancho

2. Wood’s numbers are dragged down by the fact that he started 2 years younger than D-Mac did and has played at every level at an earlier age.

3. Those ages, while technically accurate, conceal the fact that Wood started this season about 8 months younger than D-Mac was when he started his “age 23” season. A better comparison for D-Mac’s half-season at AAA will be the first half of Wood’s next year, assuming that Wood hasn’t started playing in the majors by then.

4. Wood has taken time off of two seasons to help the Olympic team, while D-Mac only took time off when he got injured, the selfish prick. (j/k)

5. Minor League numbers mean squat; see if you can guess who the following Minor League ages and OPS’s belongs to:

20 – LowA – .785
21 – HighA – .803
21 – AA – .797
22 – AA – .839
23 – AAA – 1.141

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Jul 17, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Wow... such clarity

2. Wood’s numbers are dragged down by the fact that he started 2 years younger than D-Mac did and has played at every level at an earlier age.

5. Minor League numbers mean squat;

A better comparison for D-Mac’s half-season at AAA will be the first half of Wood’s next year, assuming that Wood hasn’t started playing in the majors by then.

by melvintoast on Jul 17, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions

You couldn't think up a response to ANY of them?

Damn, I’m better than I thought.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Jul 17, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Good point

D-Mac started each of his “Age ##” seasons at the age listed plus 8 months (Dallas is a LEO) while Brandon Wood starts each “Age ##” season at the age listed plus 1 month (Brandon is a PISCES), so there are even wider disparities in the player development that would favor betting on Wood to developmentally outperform the former Minor League Player of the Year.

by Rev Halofan on Jul 17, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions

I knew there was something fishy with Wood's numbers

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Jul 17, 2008 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions

By the way- the answer to #5 is Tim Salmon

For more confirmation of the truth of number 5, check out Chase Utley as a prospect.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Jul 17, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions

i think you cherry-picked that time

“minor league numbers mean squat” is a terrible overgeneralization.

by Rev Halofan on Jul 17, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Which time? Salmon or Utley?

Because I picked Salmon due to the fact that I’d looked up his numbers earlier for a separate argument in the prospect topic. The Utley link I ran across while checking on the Philly prospect the A’s got in the Blanton trade.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Jul 17, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Minor League Numbers DO matter

A guy bats .080 for two years in the minors, guess what, he is gone. Why? The frickin’ numbers.

by Rev Halofan on Jul 17, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions

I meant "numbers" more in the sense of putting up big numbers.

Sure, minor league numbers are important on some level and bad ones remain bad. But the fact is after a certain point they tell you very little about whether a guy can do it at the big league level or not. You just have to give the guy his shot and find out, and sometimes developing the person in question can take several years. Sometimes the person in question is a Kotchman or a Kendrick who just shoots through the minors.

Did D-Mac have some cool minor league batting lines? No question. I was stoked to see that guy in an Angel uni. I’ve never seen anybody who could crush balls to dead center like he could.

But he didn’t pan out. Does that mean that anyone who puts up similar but slightly worse numbers in the minors will also not pan out? Hell no. That’s ridiculous.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Jul 17, 2008 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions