The non-shabby offense and the scareduck challenge
On June 16, after a 24-game stretch in which the Angels scored as many as 6 runs just once, and as many as 5 just four times, all while managing to go 16-8, I wrote a post defending the team against the many saber-complaints that Captain Pythagoras was bound to unleash some wicked karma onto the Big A (a theme that will be with us all year, thank God). In the comments there, I heard a lot of criticism of the offense, including complaints from scareduck that "this team has been all about pitching from 2005 on," that it has a "shabby offense," that it's built on "fundamentals like not scoring enough runs" (pre-emptive disclaimer: I'm sure Rob will say I'm "quoting him out of context," so please read the whole post, rather than require me to reproduce it here).
Anyhoo, in the midst of the back-and-forth, I wrote the following: "I'll bet you whatever you care to wager right now that the Angels will average 5 runs a game from here on out." The thinking being, a healthy Howie Kendrick, Chone Figgins and Macier Izturis, in addition to a non-sucky Vlad, should change things around.
So how'd I do? Since that day the Angels have played 31 games. And scored ... 156 runs! That's 5.03 per, for those scoring at home. And yes, that includes the wretched four-day stretch of 2 runs and one lost no-hitter.
Something to think about in all this talk of how the Angels' offense is inadequate and so forth. It really isn't, especially now that Juan Rivera has (finally) replaced Gary Matthews in the lineup. We've got 20 homers and 63 RBIs from the catcher position, easily leading the league on both counts (while grounding into only 2 double plays!); we're getting better shortstop offense than the team with our shortstop from last year; we've got a second basemen hitting .341/.361/.514 and right there with MVP candidate Ian Kinsler on a per-AB basis; and there still isn't anyone (with the possible exception of Kendrick) of whom you could say they're hitting way over their head.
This is a good offense, folks, and a great team.
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He did say
since June 16. Since he posted EARLY that morning, it was reasonable to include the June 16 game against the Mets. So that’s 31 games.
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Considering he's a .359 lifer in the minors
Kendrick isn’t overachieving in my mind. We’re just starting see his potential. His style of game play doesn’t bust too often at the Major League level, and it’s quite easy to see why he could be this good, this early. I think he could easily maintain it.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 24, 2008 6:11 PM PDT reply actions
i'm gonna go ahead and say
that figgins has had nothing to do with any of this.
in the last 28 days, he’s hit a whopping .189/.268/.257 with an OPS of .525.
in any case, way to go Howie! Glad to see him hitting like a mad man – not that there was any doubt
Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.
And Wood is catching up...quickly
Has Brandon figured it out? Check out his July line: .307/.416./.587. Most importantly, he has only 16 strikeouts opposed to 14 walks. If he has (really) improved his pitch recognition, he could be getting closer to being ready….
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=p_pbp&pid=457420
"When you don't know that you don't know, it's a lot different than when you do know that you don't know" - Bill Parcells
by johnnyangel101 on Jul 24, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
whatever he's doing, it's working.
i also dig his .321 average with RISP.
i read another article recently that said that we should give Woody at least one more shot at third this year… that’s an interesting idea. considering Desmond’s struggles, I wonder what would happen if we brought him up and he started hitting.
in that case, who becomes our leadoff guy?
Izzy? Aybar? Howie?
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by howiestheman on Jul 24, 2008 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah
Wood is going to require a LOT of patience. This isn’t a project for 2008. Besides, he’s only put together a solid July so far, and the month isn’t out yet.
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Rob, even YOU have to admit
that Wood’s K/BB are encouraging. I mean, you have been correct in your prior assessments that he K’s too much etc. I was just as frustrated as you were (although I always took his age into context). However, just as we saw improvement from Santana late last year and over the winter, we must look for improvement in a player as talented as Wood and recognize is as such. Of course, he must sustain this – but there is finally a light at the end of the tunnel…
"When you don't know that you don't know, it's a lot different than when you do know that you don't know" - Bill Parcells
by johnnyangel101 on Jul 25, 2008 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, they are
Over the course of this month. Let’s see him do it over a longer period of time. That’s all I’m saying, and given his history, isn’t that reasonable?
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Agreed
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
by johnnyangel101 on Jul 25, 2008 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
or let him come up in September and start some games
or DFA Quinlan…
Yeah, he sucked earlier this season. But he’s probably going to get another chance this year. Although Matt Brown has been hitting pretty well too at AAA and might steal some late-season ABs.
Where in case you haven't noticed, Howie's up to 3 HRs...
The guy Wood really has to watch out for, playing time-wise, is S-Rod.
who is putting up better numbers in less playing time thus far. Matt Brown is 26 and because of that probably won’t get a shot, at least on our squad.
Especially if he rakes during the Olympics, look for Brown to get moved in the offseason for either relief help or as part of a package.
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figgy needs to get nathan haynes back on speed dial and quick!
yesterday was really good to see kotch break out too… he’s kind of duplicating last season minus the injuries… start hot… slump a lil mid-season.. hopefully he’ll surge again pretty soon
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by BigBangRobbDawgg on Jul 24, 2008 7:38 PM PDT reply actions
i wanted to see what people thought about..
if we’re looking to trade for a bat, i’ve heard casey blake’s name being shopped out there. seems like a solid bat and solid glove at 3rd… probably wouldnt be too much to get him.. dont know what his contract situation is.. think he could be any help ?
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by BigBangRobbDawgg on Jul 24, 2008 7:41 PM PDT reply actions
Nah
he’s streaky, and I’d rather wait on Figgins than give ANYTHING up for him.
For future reference for you, however, this is a great site for finding out most contract info you want to know:
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 24, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
gracias, kind sir
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by BigBangRobbDawgg on Jul 24, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
why not this???
Kendry Morales, GMJ (+ some salary relief), Willits, Jason Bulger and one of Terry Evans/Matt Brown/Jason Bulger
for
Teixeira (Contract Window included), Will Ohman
*Tex moves to third (as mentioned in a previous post), Figgy becomes once again the Angels’ super utility man
What do you think???
Struggled
He always struggled at 3rd. That was always a concern with Tex. With Blalock proving to be a beeter option at 3rd then Tex.
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by Angel Aviator on Jul 25, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
If Tex could play third don't you think he would have been there all along?
Hank Blalock is not the reason Tex plays first.
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Beat on the Bat......... bet on the BAT.......
Blowouts (5+ Runs)
Split W L RS RA WP
Blowout 11 13 131 147 .458
Going into that series after the beating of the Washington senators you looked really good with 5 of the 9 games played being 5 or more runs scored (W4-L1). After that Dodger series it was not looking good at all with avg. runs scored just reaching 4 runs per game.
25 games played team had scored 117 runs (4.68). Even after the 26th game and 11 run outburst by the club against Tex winning in the 11th inning they were sitting at 4.92 runs a game. Of course the 27th game they scored 2 runs and you were trying to stay afloat. Thank goodness for a day game at the Big A and some guy named Laffey with a below .500 record and more hits allowed then innings pitched and almost as many walks as K’s toed the rubber or once again your on the losing end of the bet after 31 games and not 30. I mean after all at that point your sitting at 4.7 runs a game.
Nice to only face Beckett and not get Lester and Dice K on the Red Sox trip in. 6.67 runs a game for the series. You know your going to get them all in a playoff series. Speaking of nice I was glad to see the Angels didn’t have to battle Cliff Lee and that the Indians had traded CC already not to mention that Carmona was still on the DL. Of course the always tough right hander P. Bryd was tough to crack. 6.33 runs a game for the series. Prior to those 2 series your paying and not collecting MW.
Of those 31 games played the Angels have scored 5 runs or more in 15 games (W13-L2). Just remember that the Angels have allowed during that same time 3.97 runs a game. They have need every bit of that 5.03 to go 20-11 during that stretch.
Still believe that the team could use a bat, but not at the expense of your everyday player currently on the active roster and you can’t trade the SP. Minor league guys are available along with the bit players such as Willits, GMJ, and Q.
101 games played 448 runs scored avg runs per game = 4.4
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Your points about the last two series are well-taken,
but you leave out that early in July during a pair of series against the Jays and A’s, we put up a combined 33 runs against 2 of the top pitching staffs in baseball. Against Texas we blew them out in two games and got shut down in 2 games, but overall we still managed 26 runs in four games, leaving another set against the A’s where we scored 10 runs in 3 games. Total in early July series (and including the one A’s game from June) we scored 69 runs in 13 games, good for 5.31 per game.
Really, the only reason Matt was in trouble was the 4 games stretch against the Dodgers and A’s where we scored 2 runs. In the 9 games prior to those four, we had scored 47 runs, an average of 5.22.
So it’s not as if Matt was purely saved by the bell on this. The return of Kendrick’s production (and to a lesser extent Figgins) plus the overdue replacement of GMJ by Rivera, HAS boosted our offense.
You point out that we didn’t face Lester this Boston series, and I respond by asking so what? We faced Lester in their park back in April and we responded by throwing down 4 runs and chasing him from the game after 5 innings. We did face Wakefield, who in some ways has been an identical pitcher, with nearly dead-on innings, strike out and walk totals. Wakefield has also allowed fewer hits for a 1.16 WHIP vs Lester’s 1.31, though he tends to give up the long bomb more often than Lester.
The ultimate fact is we’ve played 12 of our last 19 games against the 1st, 2nd, and 4th ranked pitching staffs in the AL, and we’ve still managed to better our average runs by quite a bit. We probably would have more had Juan been in the game against Byrd and against Harrison (The game against Texas where we lost 3-2).
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Thank You Zu....
I am just trying to say that against those playoff teams and teams setting up the rotation makes for more problems scoring runs, and that has been a problem for the season, and in the playoffs. Are the Blue Jays or A’s playoff teams? The Texas series in Texas is your argument? The league pounds the Rangers staff and the park helps as well. Not to mention you conveniently left out the July series at OAK 10 runs scored in 3 games. That doesn’t work out to the 5 runs a game. I used all games in the last post. not a series. Hell in the Texas series they got out scored 18-17 and lost 2 of 3. Again Texas is the 29th best staff in baseball when it comes to ERA.
Against the Jays the team went 2-1, and they hit a little bit, but they beat AJ Burnett who has been allowing the whole league to score runs ERA 4.92. When they faced the ace they lost scoring just 2 runs over the 7 innings he threw while striking out 7 times. The other game they won was against another Joe that is playing on a .500 team. Not to mention 2 of their better starter are / were on the DL.
As for the so what comment about Lester thats laughable. Forever starting LHP in Boston have had trouble. With that said though he went 5 gave up 4 in early April at the start of the season when you don’t have your starters go long, but he did leave a tie ball game getting no decision. Instead they broke through beating Craig Hansen who up until then had 42 app in the show and hadn’t pitched in the bigs since 2006. As for the 1st 2nd and 4th rankings I thought the Angels had #1 but I know you also agreed with me about not facing the tougher pitchers of those staffs either. My point is you will in the playoffs.
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by Angel Aviator on Jul 25, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
RE: The Playoff teams
Boston: 2-0
Lester: 1 start, 4 runs in 5 innings – Angels win
Becket: 1start, 4 runs in 8 innings – Angels win
Dice K: No starts vs Angels this season
ChiSox: 4-0
Buerle: 1 start, 8 runs in 5.2 innings – Angels win
Danks: 2 starts, 0 runs in 6.1 innings, 2 runs in 5 innings – Angels win, Angels win
Floyd: 1 start, 3 runs in 9 innings – Angels win
Tampa: 2-2
Shields: 2 starts, 0 runs in 9 innings, 6 runs in 8 innings – Angels lose, Angels win
Kazmir: 2 starts, 0 runs in 6 innings, 3 runs in 6.2 innings – Angels lose, Angels win
Garza: No starts vs Angels this season.
Minnesota: 1-1
Blackburn: 1 start, 1 run in 7 innings – Angels win
Hernandez: 1 start, 2 runs in 7 innings, – Angels lose
Baker: No starts vs Angels this season.
(Hernandez is the worst pitcher they have, but he’s also their "ace," plus he beat us, so I’m spotting them this one)
New York: No games vs Angels this season.
Overall Record: 9-3 vs front rotation of other playoff teams
As far as the Lester start, they took him out because we were crushing him to the tune of 3 homers in 5 innings. In case you didn’t notice last series, Hansen, Declarmen, IT DIDN’T MATTER- we put a hurting on just about any reliever they threw out. Forcing Lester out of the game means getting into the pen, where we are better than they are at the back end.
My rankings were based on season ERA. The Angels are 6th.
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Hmmm
Red Sox ERA 5.54 Angels have scored at an avg. of 6.5 per game allowing 4 runs per game 3 played with out D. Ortiz. Can’t discount that after all he had 5 RBI in the 3 games he played
White Sox ERA 4.50…...7 games played 23 total runs scored by the Angels = 3.29 runs a game. Konerko on the DL last series.
21 runs allowed in those 7 games = 3.00 allowed per game.
Minn ERA is 1.93….18 runs scored avg runs a game is 4.50. Allowed 8 runs scored avg allowed 2.00
So what we have here is the Rays have been banged around for an ERA of 2.76…..........19 runs scored in 6 games by the Angels for avg runs a game 3.17. Allowing 28 runs in 6 games for avg runs a game 4.67
Pitching and Bullpen have won it for the Angels not hitting. Remember the original topic of scoring 5 runs a game on avg.
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by Angel Aviator on Jul 26, 2008 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
No, the point is WE WON.
Sure, Ortiz wasn’t there. Neither were Howie or Juan for most of these games. Good pitching tends to beat good hitting. Vs the majority of the “Playoff starters” we’ve faced this year, our pitching + defense + offense has been better than their pitching + defense + offense. The POINT of this topic is that our offense as it stands is more than capable of delivering wins for us, even against the best pitchers in the game, and that is born out by the results.
BTW I like how the Rays are the only team you provide complete stats for, given that they are the only team on that list with a winning record against us. It’s almost as if you were cherry-picking stats…
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Say What....... Huh?
How did I only supply complete stats for the Rays? I listed runs scored by the Angels and runs allowed against the opponent and the avg of runs scored for each team per game. I also gave the opposing teams ERA against the Angels with the pitchers you mentioned. Please elaborate on how I went complete stats and in your words “Cherry Picked stats”
Howie and Juan were available for both Series with the Red Sox. Howie was not around for one A’s series and both White Sox series. Juan was available but forgotten for some reason.
I know what the record is for the Angels this year, and I know what wins games. The point here is the teams offense is not what has won games for them this year it has been PITCHING and the PEN. No team that plays the Angels has been fearful of the offense. If there has been any fear involved with playing the Angels its the fact they will have to face the Pitching that will and has struck fear.
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by Angel Aviator on Jul 26, 2008 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Howie wasn't around or available the first Red Sox series.
Juan was around but not used in the majority of the series. We’ve scored a lot more runs per game since he entered the lineup on a full-time basis.
Also, by A’s, did you mean Rays?
As far as the cherry-picking comment, I confess fault and apologize. It’s seems we should both read more carefully. ;-)
I don’t care about striking fear. You brought up the playoff teams and the playoff rotations. We’re beating the playoff teams and their playoff rotations. We’ve beaten them to the tune of 14-9 on the season, with players missing on our side as well as theirs. The Rays are the only ones we’ve got a losing record against. Our offense has improved markedly since the return of Howie and Figgins, and the addition of Rivera instead of GMJ. It may not scare them, but it can beat them, and that’s the point. If a bat is available for a reasonable cost in prospects, so be it. But I don’t think such a bat exists.
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One more thing:
Not to mention you conveniently left out the July series at OAK 10 runs scored in 3 games.
Try reading it a bit more carefully next time. From my post:
Against Texas we blew them out in two games and got shut down in 2 games, but overall we still managed 26 runs in four games, leaving another set against the A’s where we scored 10 runs in 3 games.
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Also, you missed the first game of the Texas series.
It was a four game series. We out scored them 26-24.
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That was April RIGHT?
You spoke of the month of April why would I mention April Zuuuuuuu with the Oak series?
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by Angel Aviator on Jul 25, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
No, that was July. You said July. It's right up there in your post.
And mine. You seem to be having trouble following this conversation.
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And yet
the Angels remain stubbornly in the bottom half of the league in runs scored (presently at 10th with 448). I understand your point, but the Angels offense still ain’t all that and a glass of beer. Injuries are part of the game. A lot of the Angels’ failure to score runs can be laid on the feet of a sucky Vlad (he’s still struggling by his standards, though less visibly thanks to some recent homers), a GA past his sell-by date, and the failure to properly deploy Rivera ahead of GMJ (and possibly Anderson). Figgins’ disappearance is a mystery (horrifying fact: he has scored 14 runs total in June and July), though Howie has managed to return at his expected level of production.
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I just don't think we'll be in a position where Wood/Rodriquez will be required
And even if we do, I don’t expect them to lay such ginormous stink bombs. The point about Rivera is that he has replaced GMJ, so the past is the past on that score. Figgins - who looks totally distracted - should bounce back somewhat; I’d imagine he’ll end up the year near his usual .290 with more-than-usual walks.
And should a starting pitcher get hurt, I think Moseley will be better than he was in April.
Angels offense
Two things have contributed to the resurgence. One, Rivera is in the line-up everyday instead of Jr. Two, Mathis is playing everyday at catcher. Not that he’s any better at the plate than Napoli, but rather he is getting regular at bats.
Would the same be happening if Mathis were injured, probably. For next year I would like to see Napoli moved to a DH/1B/C role and bring up a legit backup catcher.
Mathis would get regular AB’s and so would Napoli.
It’s one things to have a deep bench, but our deep bench isn’t effective because they are use to playing everyday. What ever happened to the bench playing on Sunday to give the regulars a day off ?
Stay on the damn bag!!
my problem with anyone moving to first ever
is that it means casey’s not there. Defense.
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by Carl Johnson on Jul 25, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Just as a backup first baseman.....
you can’t replace Casey’s D…...
Stay on the damn bag!!
JR
I just hope that Juan will get his AB’s from here on out. Plain to see that GMJ is not the answer. I have always liked JR and his bat.
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Just sayin'
10th out of 14 in OPS in RF??? .749???
Holy TIHS!
This is BAD Vlad and his band of wimps! (can't change it now, cuz the last time I did...he started sucking again!)
The last piece of the puzzle
is getting Izzy/Aybar out of the third spot in favor of Vladdy 3rd, Johnny Rivers or Hula-dula 4th, and the other 5th. My favorite lineup is:
Figgy
Kotchman
Vlad
Rivera
Hunter
GA
Howie
Mathis/Napoli
Aybar/Izzy
K-brothers rule! (Kendrick & Kotch)
Keep gloating buddy!
:)
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Jul 27, 2008 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
2 runs won't help
Just thought I would help since there is the running total going here ….....5.15 after 34.
After all I know you have the new one, and its tough to find time for trival things like this. I just hope your right with the 5 runs per game, and you don’t need to be burped.
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by Angel Aviator on Jul 27, 2008 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
If we're keeping a running total, then through 35 we're at 5.20 on the button.
*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!
mattwelch may not need to be burped
but I bet he knows someone who does!
by TheTypingFiend on Jul 29, 2008 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if he'll claim bets-off due to acquiring Texiera.
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If he's gonna, he has to do it NOW.
Once we see first pitch on the 30th, duckie is stuck with his bet, as is.
Francisco Rodriguez: 190 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.
Looking Solid Now
I must remind you though that there is like 3 teams currently avg 5 runs a game for the year though.
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by Angel Aviator on Jul 29, 2008 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
What happened earlier in the year doesn't matter as much
as what is GOING to happen the rest of the year. Besides, at least two of those other teams play in hitters parks.
Also, we don’t need the best offense just one that gets the job done most of the time.
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I think, with Tex on board, there now is the EXPECTATION of 5+
So we can end the fun. I just want the record to show that when the world (and many here) though our offense sucked, I pointed out that it didn’t, put my money where my mouth was, and I was right!
Did he bet you anything?
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You Didn't think it was Broken..........
But the Angel brass obviously thought the offense was not all you thought it to be. I will stick with the baseball side. I am also a guy that will look at the numbers, but at some point the human element has to be spun into the equation. Games are not played on paper. The need for baseball scouts and baseball people still remains. This was a move that was based on the fact the team got better (offensively), and it was much needed.
All bets should by right be off right? After all your post was based on the fact that the team would be better with “The thinking being, a healthy Howie Kendrick, Chone Figgins and Macier Izturis, in addition to a non-sucky Vlad, should change things around.” There was also the mention of how Rivera would be playing more and GMJ not and the SS doing a better job. All this is forever changed with the addition of the new OFFENSIVE player that the Angel hierarchy thought was necessary to win.
A better offense was needed during the dog days of summer, and on through the playoffs.
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by Angel Aviator on Jul 31, 2008 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Disagree about Angels Brass
They think we have an excellent chance to win it all so they upgraded a spot on the roster and going for it.
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And yet the Angels put up nine runs last night on Josh Beckett, our supposed kryptonite
without that offensive addition doing anything at all. Just because the Angels Brass made the call doesn’t make it the right one. After all, the Angels Brass made the move to pick up GMJ in the first place.
By no means am I calling Tex a failure here, or even that it was a bad move. My point is that the Angels Brass making a move doesn’t mean Matt was wrong. For the duration of the bet, he was correct.
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Get Better
Winning the AL West was not going to get it done. Just the first step in a long process. team got better with Tex being added to the lineup. They saw a chance to get better and it was with the bat. They made the lineup longer. Even though the guy did not factor into the overall production in yesterday’s game doesn’t mean he did not help the outcome off the game with his presence in the lineup. Facing just a few guys over a handful of guy is a lot tougher on a pitcher.
Bottom line is the team needed that bat and they went out and got it with out giving up a lot. When I say a lot I am talking that they did not mortgage any future with the trade. Common fact that it is much easier to replace a 1B then a starting pitcher or proven run producer or a SS / CF.
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by Angel Aviator on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh I agree with all that.
Like I said- My point was that Matt was right, and the Brass choosing to take a windfall upgrade when it fell into our laps doesn’t change that.
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We don't disagree
5.2 runs a game is good, but it’s what we did last year. Subbing Teix for Kotch makes this a MUCH more potent offense, and gives us pole position in the WS sweepstakes. I like the deal, a prefer an offense that might push us closer to 6 runs per.
Well, technically, in July, sans Tex, we were already OVER 6 runs per. ;-P
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Okay, you win
I owe you a drink of your favorite refreshing beverage whenever you make it back to the Soufland.
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Bet settled!
Matt Welch wins a beer!
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Aug 1, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweet. Probably November. We should have a HalosHeaven bash!
I haven’t seen Angel Aviator since what, high school?
Come On Now
So if your thinking is they upgraded wouldn’t that be another way of saying they added offense? Not like they got better with the defensively with the trade. With the trade they now think they have a better chance through the playoffs, and as many said now the favorite to win the World Series.
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Perhaps I'm missing something, but the move makes perfect sense even if the Brass
assumed we’d keep scoring 5 runs a game (and there are good reasons to think we would have). It’s not like you can score too many runs. To put it simply, the Brass saw a way to make us even better this year and they could do it without costing us our future. It doesn’t mean they thought we’d fail without him, it means he increased our chances and there was no reason not to pile him on.
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by TheOptimist on Jul 31, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions

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