Mark Teixeira Trade Analysis
When Mark Teixeira approaches the plate in the first inning of tonight's game in Boston, he will be the 819th player to play for the Angels franchise and the 20th to wear #25 on his jersey.
THE FEELINGS
Yes this is a bummer losing a good Angel. It is weird for fans of the team as we are not used to big trades, especially during the season. It must be kinda queasy for some longtime Angels who have gone through this ritual far less than the average baseball player.
I always liked Casey Kotchman, loved hearing the stories about him taking BP with Garret in the minor leagues instead of doing his 4th grade homework, etc. The biggest worry over Paul Konerko’s free agency a few years back was not signing the aging slugger, but knowing that doing so would make Kotch expendable.
THE PAST
2005 was the warm up for what was supposed to be the breakthrough – but mononucleosis would stall him for 2006. There is no doubt in my mind that a healthy Kotch would have made at least 4 games difference in the AL West race in 2006. Finally, we got one very good season, 2007, out of Casey and 2/3 of a very good season this year. That is his legacy. His 71 doubles as an Angel in 1,265 Plate Appearances is good for 37th on the all-time franchise list.
THE PRESENT
Moving forward, the deal we made is a decent upgrade over Kotchman for two months. Teix’s defense is superb, like Kotch’s, Teix is faster on the basepaths. He hits for more power, and gets on base more often and in more ways than Casey. This is pretty much obvious to the casual as well as the sophisticated fan. Many stat-wonks are saying the upgrade is mild, almost cosmetic. They support this with some of the outlier, peripheral stats; they dance around the fact that they are discussing what amounts to microscopic measurements.
Stat wonks also ignore the human element. Teix’s status will affect the perception that opposing managers and pitchers have about the Angels lineup during the game. It is no knock on Kotch that he was recently still having to adjust – still – to the way the league was pitching him. It is no knock on Kotch to say that while he is universally respected, his bat in the lineup was not feared upon mention at anywhere near the level that Teix’s is.
If stat-wonks can speak with authority regarding outlier “fip”-type measurements that describe less than one quarter of one percent of a player’s game, than the unquantifiable impact of a player as a personality and known entity amidst a lineup has to enter the picture.
With all of this considered, Teixeira’s presence in the lineup and the field for 1/3 of this season balanced with Kotchman’s absence is a bigger plus than I, a big Kotchman booster, would have initially admitted or ever felt.
FUTURE
Here is where it gets interesting. The pundits insist that we only “win” this trade if we lock up Teixeira. Wrong. Like popular Angel Orlando Cabrera blocking Erick Aybar, the well-liked Kotchman has been blocking Kendry Morales. While Kotchman is 3 years younger than Teixeira, he is 4 months older than Kendry Morales. While Kendry is behind Kotchman developmentally, he is catching up. He is a little faster on the basepaths and can be projected to be hitting for more power. He matches up well player-to-player as a comparable to Kotchman, plus he is cheaper and under club control for longer.
Teix leaving as a free agent leaves the Angels with Morales (a comparable alternative to Kotchman that is cheaper) and two early draft picks as compensation.
Teix re-signing with us gives us a player who should be better than both Kotch and Kendry for 3-5 of the likely 7 year deal he signs.
In fact, free agency will be a win-win. Not re-signing Teix immediately provides the cash to re-sing Frankie. Signing Teix gives us the green light to trade Morales as part of a package for a quality reliever to bolster the pen in Frankie’s absence.
POST-SEASON
Teixeira is no guarantee of anything in the post-season, but neither was Kotchman. A numbers-cruncher can come up with an obscure stat to split a hair better here or there as much as a psychological assessment could give the middle of our present order a “fear factor” in regards to opponents being nervous.
BOTTOM LINE
If we do not win it all, the trade might look like a failure, but if Morales is raking at this time next season or even in 2010, the judgment of this deal will have to be re-opened for consideration.
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Great post Rev.
The only thing I’d add is that a lot of people (Buster Olney, etc.) are saying this bat only helps us in the post-season, because we would have won the west anyway. TheOptimist made a valid point earlier that this isn’t really true. Tex makes it more likely that we continue winning at our current rate, which will assist us in locking down home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. Especially given the state of the AL as road-teams this season, that could be a huge boost to our post-season chances by itself.
As you say of course, there are no guarantees. But I do think it’s important not to over-look.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on
Jul 30, 2008 12:21 AM PDT
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Excellent Points!
To which I will add:
Teix in the lineup over the next 58 games reduces pressure on other Angels in the lineup as well as allowing Scioscia to rest batters without sacrificing offensive continuity nor risk establishing that home field advantage.
by Rev Halofan on
Jul 30, 2008 12:34 AM PDT
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So we then risk more GMJ?
Francisco Rodriguez: 190 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.
by Stirrups on
Jul 30, 2008 12:36 AM PDT
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with him at least
late inning glove = no risk
by Rev Halofan on
Jul 30, 2008 12:44 AM PDT
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Hrmmm.
I would agreed with you, until this recent game. See second inning play by play.
Francisco Rodriguez: 190 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.
by Stirrups on
Jul 30, 2008 12:56 AM PDT
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what about the diving catch 2 days later?
i agree the man is not doing it this year but c’mon, he’s a solid glove with speed in the OF.
by SCHalo on
Jul 30, 2008 9:41 AM PDT
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All of that had to be said to quiet the flailing of a lot of folks around here.
But the compelling point to this event is simple: Arte is the kind of owner willing to go ALL IN when circumstances dictate, and Arte is the only person for whom this is NOT a game.
Francisco Rodriguez: 190 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.
by Stirrups on
Jul 30, 2008 12:30 AM PDT
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Yes, exactly...
...there is a large element of gamble in this move, but I love that Arte is prepared to make tha gamble.
I see red people
by The Limey on
Jul 30, 2008 12:37 AM PDT
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Bottom Line
1. Big Tex’s glove is not as good as Kotchman’s.
2. We bought low. Big Tex has been a monster corner IF over the last few years, but a little off this year so far. He will improve our offense by some runs, and it was already doing pretty well lately.
3. I only worry we will offer a deal that is too long. The Angels need to only offer the years and $$ they decide is right, and not go higher. Those 2 high draft picks would be a hell of a consolation prize with our scouts and player development.
by elricsi on
Jul 30, 2008 12:33 AM PDT
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G L O V E S
As a Kotch fan, I disagree about Teix not being on par with Casey defensively.
by Rev Halofan on
Jul 30, 2008 12:35 AM PDT
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Rafael Palmeiro approves of the GG being a measure of defensive prowess
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by hauldog on
Jul 30, 2008 10:20 AM PDT
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its not fair to compare defensive skills
when you watch one every single day and the other every time he plays us.
teixeira has 2 gold gloves. thats 2 more than kotchman. Does that mean hes better? not really, but it says youre not losing anything by getting a GOLD GLOVE in return.
by ihearhowie2.0 on
Jul 30, 2008 6:46 AM PDT
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Re: point 1
I don’t know where I got my original numbers, but I looked again today and see that actually there might not be too much difference between them on D. According to The Hardball Times, Teixeira is 4th in RZR, and Kotchman is 5th, with similar out of zone plays.
I don’t think you can trust your eyes completely on defensive evaluation, I mean most people don’t start watching the fielder until the ball is well on the way there and miss their initial jump. Also, Gold Glove votes chose Jeter a couple of times, so take their votes with big, heaping spoonfulls of salt.
Anyway, it was a good risk to take for a rich team, plus it shows the new Angels will actually make a move. I’m a little amazed that no other team offered more.
by elricsi on
Jul 30, 2008 9:10 AM PDT
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This is an interesting idea...
with our scouts and player development.
As you said, we have some good scouts. Maybe there are a few extra players they are eyeing in the next year’s draft already…?
Teix helps us in a short term goal to get to the playoffs, then his departure means two more picks in the draft.
Maybe?
by Downing Rules on
Jul 30, 2008 9:13 AM PDT
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Pretty much agree with ya...
It was a great trade for the angels even if teix doesn’t resign with the angels. personally i dont mind if he doesn’t. and this is coming from a kotch fan.
Couple of points here:
1) the draft picks are key. if he doesn’t resign we get more help for a farm system that is getting thin
2) we need to bat teix 3rd. he is going to thrive there. vladimir is protecting teix not the other way around. vlad doesn’t need protection. in addition, teix’s presence will make all the angels hitters better. mark my words
3) trust our management and FO. tony and arte deserve a lot of credit. i’m pretty confident in this team for the next 10 years or so.
by stezo on
Jul 30, 2008 12:34 AM PDT
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and finally: this shuts up the damn media. i was getting tired of hearing “angels need a big bat” and the idiots on Bball tonight talking smack about the angels
by stezo on
Jul 30, 2008 12:35 AM PDT
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and if u watched BBTN last night...
or around the horn just pryor to the trade, they were saying that the angels didnt just have boston’s number this year, they had everyone’s number, throwin down all kinds of praise
i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all
by halofan4life on
Jul 30, 2008 7:40 AM PDT
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Did anyone get the weather report from Hell?
In particular, the ice fishing report?
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by red floyd on
Jul 30, 2008 8:33 AM PDT
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Snow flurries
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by scareduck on
Jul 30, 2008 12:07 PM PDT
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Good post, Rev.
I think your sentiments are well represented, if not difficult to express.
So what are our thoughts on Morales in Left next year should we be able to sign Tex? How serious was the organization in trying him out in said position?
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by Red114 on
Jul 30, 2008 1:02 AM PDT
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I am probably Morales' #1 Fan but I am going to miss Kotch. I liked him even though he was blocking Kendry at 1B.
I sure wish Kotch ALOT of success with the Braves.
That said I hope TEX really kicks ass because if Kotch out does him It will sort of suck. BUT the reason we got TEX was to help us in the PLAYOFFS so that is when ALL EYES will be on him. I sure hope the Angels win it all this year and Kendry Morales turns out to be a stud in the bigs with 40HR power.
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by acuda27 on
Jul 30, 2008 1:23 AM PDT
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Oh and CASEYKISSOFDEATH I really feel for you bro. I know you were Kotchs #1 Fan and I bet it sucks ass to lose your favorit player.
Hope a WS Ring can cheer you up : )
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by acuda27 on
Jul 30, 2008 1:26 AM PDT
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psychological impact on pitchers
Rev, you touched on this, but I think it shouldn’t be underestimated what the impact will be upon opposing pitchers.
As cupie and I discussed tonight, having Izturis in the #3 spot was a bold move—but decently reasoned (the Pharaoh is batting like .400 with RISP). But having Teix in that spot dramatically changes the makeup of the lineup.
Let’s say the first two batters reach base. As a pitcher, you might think Mice Tits has a decent RISP avg or something, and maybe he might dink a double down the line, but that’s about the top end of the threat. If you’re facing Teixeira, now you have a 3-run HR threat on your hands. Oh, and you have Vlad batting next. And then Hunter. And then my man GA (who even though isn’t as big of a threat as he used to be, still has the capacity to do some damage, as he’s shown lately).
Pitchers will definitely look at this lineup differently from here on out.
by yeswecan on
Jul 30, 2008 1:34 AM PDT
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If GA wasn't so lazy,
He’d be batting in all 9 slots! :-)
Seriously, though, YWC, GA is among my favorites as well.
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by red floyd on
Jul 30, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
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Teixeira could be the franchise player
I can’t remember which pundit made the observation on the radio tonight (I think it was Steve Bisheff), but he made a great observation: after this season, Frankie might be gone, GA might be gone, Vlad may be in decline, others may be gone, and Teix might be the Angels’ franchise player if they can re-sign him.
by yeswecan on
Jul 30, 2008 2:07 AM PDT
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I thought of this too...
This might be the new face of the franchise. Vlad is in decline – I think it is pretty obvious. The only thing that worries me is that it seems to be a much steeper decline than I expected.
Teix, if resigned, is the new Vlad.
Jim Scully
by jimmuscomp on
Jul 30, 2008 6:12 AM PDT
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Not bad for your franchise guys
i mean, when both torii and teix would be past their primes, it would be really ugly. Really ugly. A lot of money tied up in both of them but if our team keeps developing good in-house pitching and maybe churn out one more impact prospect, we’d stil be very competitive for the stretch of those deals
but you’d assume that Kendrick and maybe Wood will have stepped up offensively by then too along with maybe a more mature Aybar.
by ihearhowie2.0 on
Jul 30, 2008 11:58 AM PDT
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Definitely was Bisheff...
I heard it too…
He also said that he strongly believes the Angels have already secured some sort of signing rights with Scott Boras (who we all know sits behind the plate at the Big A). Not quite sure was his sources/reasoning is though, because Teixeira has been quoted saying he’ll wait until the off-season to discuss contracts at all.
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by BruinHalo on
Jul 30, 2008 11:27 AM PDT
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I heard that, too
But it wasn’t signing rights. His point was that the Angels wouldn’t have done the deal if they didn’t already have some kind of assurance from Boras that the Angels will be in the bidding for Teix in the offseason. In other words, if Teix absolutely had no interest in staying with the Angels past this season, the Angels wouldn’t have dealt for him.
by yeswecan on
Jul 30, 2008 11:50 AM PDT
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Well...
they get the first 14 days (or is it 15 days?) after the WS to negotiate before he hits the open market. So, they will have a chance to convince him before the Sox, Yanks and Mets throw all the money in the world at him.
Boras is the problem. He won’t let Teixeira sign before he talks to the other clubs on the East Coast. I just don’t see it happening.
Just my 2 cents.
Jim Scully
by jimmuscomp on
Jul 30, 2008 12:39 PM PDT
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Boras is doing his job
I may be in the minority, but Boras’ penchant for testing the market to find the highest bidder is the best thing he can do for his clients. I don’t blame him at all for doing that.
The Angels have money, and they will make a bid, like the Yankers and Lame Sox. And Tex will get his due money for the way he has played.
by yeswecan on
Jul 30, 2008 3:56 PM PDT
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You are not in the minority, or alone anyway.
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by hauldog on
Jul 30, 2008 9:23 PM PDT
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so
is he gonna start tomorrow? or do we have to wait til friday, this is like a present that i can’t open yet.
by jtkelly86 on
Jul 30, 2008 2:17 AM PDT
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Tomorrow batting 3rd!
Just go to sleep it will make the time go faster!!!
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by acuda27 on
Jul 30, 2008 2:46 AM PDT
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Goodbye Casey Kotchman, Hello Mark Teixeira
I will miss Casey, because he is the only player that my 5 year old son knew by name, and knew what position he played. I tried to tell him that Casey Kotchman was no longer the first baseman for the ANgels, and he asked me why, and I found it a little difficult to try and explain it to him.
That being said, I am glad that we were able to Teixeira to add to this lineup. I know a lot of people here have talked about Kotchman being a much better glove than Teixeira, but he is not that much of a downgrade from Kotchman. Teixeira is a 2 time gold glove winner, and while i understand that the awarding of gold gloves is a somewhat flawed process, the people that win them, for the most part, are good fielders.
The positive effect this trade will have on our offense and lineup far outweighs any minimal reduction on the defensive side.
Welcome to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Mark, let us hope that you help us win the World Series.
Pain heals, Chicks dig scars, Glory lasts Forever!
by billhune on
Jul 30, 2008 5:03 AM PDT
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Morales is the key...
to this deal. I was/am a fan of Kotchman too but I like this trade even if Mark doesn’t resign. Morales is the reason and also Trumbo could be following close behind.
I know most of you will take this as good news but Steve Phillips said he would not have done this deal. Listening to Phillips on Mike and Mike this morning was so frustrating because obviously he doesn’t know about Morales and to a lesser extent Trumbo. He is the same guy that said as GM he felt compelled to make a deal just to bolster the team morale. But then again this is coming from a guy who traded for Mo Vaughn (maybe thats why he doesn’t like us) and gave Scott Kazmir to the Rays.
by Wittness on
Jul 30, 2008 5:41 AM PDT
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Trumbo could be useful
His defense is supposed to be adequate at third. Maybe not Prince Fielder bad, but hardly as good as Kotchman, and maybe not as good as Kendry. He still provides depth.
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by scareduck on
Jul 30, 2008 9:21 AM PDT
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Bingo! I was waiting for the reference to 3B.
When I first heard about Trumbo, he was a pitcher/3Bman who blasted several shots into the rocks for Scioscia and Stoneman during a tryout. The next thing I know, he’s playing 1B in the minors (I assumed so that he didn’t unnecessarily stress his arm in the event they moved him back to pitcher).
Granted, this is just BS fantacizing, but imagine (positions 2 thru 9, plus DH) Conger, TEX, Kendrick, Trumbo, Wood, Rivera, Hunter, Guerrero, Morales in the lineup at the same time. ........Trades speed for power, but it’s an interesting thought.
by wumbug on
Jul 30, 2008 9:56 AM PDT
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I worry about Trumbo's defense at first though.
20 errors at first is STAGGERING, even in the minor leagues. I can only hope that most of those were made while playing third (milb.com doesn’t list fielding splits, so I don’t know), because otherwise, yuck.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on
Jul 30, 2008 10:52 AM PDT
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most non-mentioned part of the trade
is that teixeira is a monster 2nd half player. He always heats up in summer, and check out his numbers after he got traded last year. He spent all but 2 half seasons in the AL, so the pitching isnt going to be baffling him too much
by ihearhowie2.0 on
Jul 30, 2008 6:48 AM PDT
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Hard to know if it's Teix or park effects
The Rangers’ home park is so hot in the second half.
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by scareduck on
Jul 30, 2008 9:19 AM PDT
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Um in Atlanta all we he did was .317/.404/.615 in 208 AB's after the trade
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by hauldog on
Jul 30, 2008 10:25 AM PDT
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And isn't ATL a pitcher's stadium as well?
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by red floyd on
Jul 30, 2008 12:01 PM PDT
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Not as much of one as Angel Stadium.
And it’s in AAAA.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on
Jul 30, 2008 12:09 PM PDT
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Struggling to wrap my arms around this one...
I was in the Yankee Club restaurant yesterday evening and a friend calls me to tell me that he was very disappointed in me…I had not called him to let him know that we had traded Kotch for Tex…I had travelled to NYC fully expecting the Angels to stand pat! I was shocked!
Rev, your analysis makes me feel better about this trade. I cannot imagine that there is a defensive 1b in Kotch’s class! I hope I am proven wrong because Kotch seemed to save 1-2 errors per game with his glove! Especially from Figgins!
The AWESOME NEWS is that I plan to be at Fenway for the unveiling of Tex as an Angel! Wow! Timing!
I have to say that it sure is cool to have everyone acknowledging the Angels position in the league right now! Let’s not peak too soon! :)
Welcome aboard Tex! See you this evening!
This is BAD Vlad and his band of wimps! (can't change it now, cuz the last time I did...he started sucking again!)
by K3YEROUT on
Jul 30, 2008 6:50 AM PDT
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Good analysis
I agree that Morales was key to this trade. I don’t think the Angels will resign Tex and be able to extend Vlad, Lackey or make a run at Frankie. Morales could be an offensive upgrade over Kotch though his defense is not. Trading Kotch was like trading your favorite son, there must have been much, much discussion and knowing the Angels there is a larger plan in place.
Let’s enjoy Tex, win the World Series and go from there. In the short run this makes us a better team, the long run is always a bit of a crap shoot.
Angels in 08!
by tanana40 on
Jul 30, 2008 7:00 AM PDT
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I was devistated when I heard about this trade
Kotchman was my favorite Angel, I don’t own any big league sports jerseys, but I was about to get a Kotchman jersey. When I’m half watching a game, I’ll pay full attention when Kotchman is up because I love watching him hit.
Intellectually, this is a great deal, the Angels get an offensive upgrade at first base for the cost of a minor leaguer, and not one of our vanuted top prospects at that. Emotionally though, it’s a punch in the stomach.
I’m sure I’ll grow to be a Teixeira fan, but right now all I can think is that if when we win the world series now, all it does is prove those morons at ESPN who have been mindlessly spewing the “The Angels need a big bat to compete in the playoffs” line right. I wanted to win it all with the team we had and shove it in their faces. That dream is now dead. It was a silly dream, I know, but it was mine.
by leftwing on
Jul 30, 2008 8:18 AM PDT
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A few Tex jacks and Kotch will be a distant memory.
Fell bad for Kotch though… does he get a share of bonus if the Angels win it all?
by melvintoast on
Jul 30, 2008 10:23 AM PDT
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If they vote him one.
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Kobe tell me how my ass tastes
by hauldog on
Jul 30, 2008 10:26 AM PDT
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They better...
or we’re gonna have to start a HH collection plate.
Of course I'm right... I have a UC education.
by BruinHalo on
Jul 30, 2008 11:34 AM PDT
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Jersey
And this is why I started getting my own name on the jerseys. I never get traded.
Bye Bye Ohio, hello Valencia!
by anaheimisnotla on
Jul 30, 2008 12:28 PM PDT
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LOL thats funny....
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by acuda27 on
Jul 30, 2008 2:01 PM PDT
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I was
just looking at Teixeira’s page on Baseball-Reference and I happend to notice that he was drafted out of high school by the Red Sox in the 9th round, and the guy who sponsors his page, is a lawyer in CT who was hoping that he would be playing in Fenway in 2008. Little did he know that his dream would come true, but that he would be playing for the visiting team.
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by billhune on
Jul 30, 2008 9:58 AM PDT
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Phys and Hud spoke to this last night.
Apparently Tex’s father and the scout who tried to sign him for Boston did not get along. Tex Sr. said the scout was disrespectful so he pushed his boy into college rather than give the scout the satisfaction of signing him.
by ReggieBullits on
Jul 30, 2008 10:38 AM PDT
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Phys sounded a bit too happy...
when Pedroia singled in the 9th to break the no-no… were the fans clapping for Lackey or for the broken no-hitter?
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Jul 30, 2008 11:03 AM PDT
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Broken no hitter
Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.
Kobe tell me how my ass tastes
by hauldog on
Jul 30, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
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Phys said "the Boston faithful give Lackey a standing ovation..."
huh? Does phys want to work in Boston or something???
by Downing Rules on
Jul 30, 2008 11:29 AM PDT
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I got this impression from Boston fans I know and some blogs I read.
My buddy is in Masshole land right now and he said the house he is staying at went nuts and it was not in appreciation of Lackey.
That being said I was at the stadium when Freddy Garcia almost no hit us and I cheered for OUR hit. I did not want to watch us get no hit at all.
Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.
Kobe tell me how my ass tastes
by hauldog on
Jul 30, 2008 11:33 AM PDT
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ONE QUESTION,
When is lackey a free agent??
You Better watch out, The Angels are War Machines!
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Jul 30, 2008 10:12 AM PDT
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After 2009
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Kobe tell me how my ass tastes
by hauldog on
Jul 30, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
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by billhune on
Jul 30, 2008 10:38 AM PDT
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TEX
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by hauldog on
Jul 30, 2008 10:23 AM PDT
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"Its not Ryan its Ryne"
Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.
Kobe tell me how my ass tastes
by hauldog on
Jul 30, 2008 11:26 AM PDT
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Nice post, Rev.
Here is my take after a day to let this settle…
My first reaction to the deal was frustration because the net gain in runs this year – or in a short series – is minimal. The team has a 12 game lead – they are going to make the playoffs. My immediate thoughts went to the fact that resigning Teixeira will be near impossible and then, “who starts at 1st base in 2009”. Well, Kendry Morales is the answer to that question, like it or not. He is similar to Kotchman v. 2008. So there isn’t a big drop offensively. Defensively, that is another story. But, this deal does help in 2008 – and if Teixeira blows up in the post-season he could be a HUGE difference. We’ll see how this plays out in October/November. Because Kendry is able to emulate Kotchman in 2009 – this deal is really quite good. It is a win/win for the Halos. They get Teix now and aren’t REQUIRED to resign him because they have an in-house replacement that is similar in production to the guy they traded for Teixeira.
What I appreciated about Kotchman was his eye and ability to draw a walk. I knew he had doubles power, but figured it would increase as he aged, and coupled with his good eye, he could hit 22-28 HR’s a year. Well, Kotchman has regressed this year – I wrote a big post on this (specifically his BB rate) last week on Halos Heaven.
As a few of my comrades from HH and other Angel blogs rightly pointed out in the BBTF thread that Kotch – when he is patient – has the ability to show good power. This year he is – for whatever reason – swinging earlier in the count and performing worse than last year. But, 2007 was a good year for a 24 year-old, especially when I considered that he would be progressing for a couple of years. If he is heading to an organization that respects plate discipline, maybe his BB rate can return to pre-2008 levels. If so, his development will continue upward. His BB rate this year is 4.7% of PA’s. It was 10%+ last year. A few of us speculated that Mickey Hatcher might have finally caught up with him – along with GA. Hopefully a change of scenery and coaching will bring back that important part of Kotchman’s game.
Anyway, here’s to hoping that he rediscovers his ability to draw ball four in ATL and help the Braves for years to come. He is a class act and a stunning defensive first baseman.
Jim Scully
by jimmuscomp on
Jul 30, 2008 11:07 AM PDT
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Food for thought
In the playoffs, the Angels have gone 171 at-bats without a home run, covering 48 innings, all with Vladimir Guerrero. In the 2002 World Series, without Guerrero, the Angels hit seven home runs in 60 innings.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/angels/la-sp-shaikin30-2008jul30,0,7633364.story
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by hauldog on
Jul 30, 2008 11:25 AM PDT
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Wow. We've gone 5 and 1/3 games in the playoffs without hitting a homer.
With the last three of those coming in a season where we hit very few homers and had injuries to all our big hitters in the playoffs. How completely expected.
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on
Jul 30, 2008 11:44 AM PDT
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haha
didn’t Q hit our last playoff hr?
by jtkelly86 on
Jul 30, 2008 11:44 AM PDT
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Food for thought
not some earth shattering piece of information.
Obviously it mattered to the Angels front office because we just landed the biggest bat on the market….......TEX
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Kobe tell me how my ass tastes
by hauldog on
Jul 30, 2008 12:08 PM PDT
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Bottom Line
Ol’ Tex will help us come October. Even his presence in the line up will benefit the Angels.
If he signs, which I suspect he will, then that would make this trade sooo awesome.
Granted I love Kotch, but if we wanna win, we need to make moves.
I look forward to seeing Tex in the lineup.
World Series Bound in 2008
by HaloPride on
Jul 30, 2008 2:11 PM PDT
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