Close Race=Saunders and Lee

by WillGoAngels27 on Jul 4, 2008 2:10 AM PDT Comment 21 comments

The Race for the starting pitcher for the al in the allstar game is really heated as both the pitchers are having unbelivable years and i think Colonel and lee are almost the same pitcher in they get NO RUN SUPPORT and yet still win on a consitent bases, i dont know who sould be Starter both are already on the team i would guess they will pick lee since hes era is low, what do you people think![Note by WillGoAngels27, 07/04/08 5:11 AM EDT ]

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Starting AL And NL All Star Game Pitchers

Joe Saunders and Brandon Webb

18 votes

Cliff Lee and Brandon Webb

11 votes

Joe Saunders and Tim Lincecum

12 votes

Cliff Lee and Tim Lincecum

8 votes

Joe Saunders and Eldson Vazquez

9 votes

Cliff Lee and Eldson Vazquez

12 votes

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sorry but I don’t think saunders is gonna get it. pretty sure its gonna be LEE

by stezo on Jul 4, 2008 2:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Lackey>Santana>Saunders

...and that’s before we even factor in other AL starters.

Can’t see Saunders starting.

I see red people

by The Limey on Jul 4, 2008 2:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Good Call

Outfielders For Sale.

by gorams77 on Jul 4, 2008 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eldson Vazquez?

Did Edinson Volquez change his name?

by jjackflash on Jul 4, 2008 8:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I was tired

Get off me

Maybe we should start one of those wave things?

by WillGoAngels27 on Jul 4, 2008 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd go with Roy Halladay

Dude has been dominant for a long while now, not just one half, and he leads the world in stuff like IP & SO. Plus, I only want Joe to work one inning, so our 2nd half rotation don’t get screwed up.

by mattwelch on Jul 4, 2008 8:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If rumor and ESPN are to be believed,

Mariano Rivera may get the start so that he gets to pitch a meaningful inning during the last All-Star game in the House That Ruth Built. Of course, this could also just be a manufactured talking point so that when he doesn’t get it, they can play it as a snub and devote yet further hours of coverage to the Yankees-Sox Rivalry.

At any rate, Lee has more than half a run in ERA on Joe, as well a better peripherals all around. (Note: This does not mean Saunders hasn’t been awesome. He has and without him and Santana performing the way they have we’d be lucky to find ourselves above .500 at this point.) Along with Halladay (who doesn’t lead anyone in SO, being tied with Ervin for 4th in the AL), another guy who will probably get consideration in Justin Duscherer, the current AL ERA leader among qualifying pitchers at 1.96.

It goes without saying that if a certain pitcher had even 3 more starts, he’d be the leading candidate by far.

As for the NL, Lincecum gets the edge over Volquez, just because I find the fact that he’s 10-1 and thereby more or less single-handedly keeping the Giants out of the NL West cellar hella impressive.

*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Jul 4, 2008 9:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Classic WankSox

Note that Rivera has NOT been named to the team yet.

by Rev Halofan on Jul 4, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh please...

Do you really doubt that? If you listen to NY sports talk radio (and ESPN radio for that matter), there is the great Mo and and then everybody else. The fact that Frankie is on track to shatter the save record only got mentioned here because Kardiac Rod blew that save against the Mets.

Last time I checked, the great Mariano has three losses and they were deserved. He has exactly the same number of innings pitched (37.1) and has appeared in only five less games and has 12 fewer saves.

I know he’s had a great career and he seems like a classy modest guy, I hate hate hate the lack of press about Frankie and the diefication of Mariano.

Do I sound like a bitter fan with an inferiority complex? Your point?

GA GA he's the man, if he can't do it, no one can

by Moondoggy on Jul 5, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Volquez get the start in my book

he’s only had 1 or 2 starts in which he’s given up more than 2 runs…

Howie for MVP!

by angels.vlad27 on Jul 4, 2008 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Saunders does not line up well

Saunders will be starting on the Sunday before the All-Star Game. Doubtful he pitches in the game at all.

Agree with you though that it is close between him and Lee as “Starter” is often determined by wins and not by deeper stats.

by Rev Halofan on Jul 4, 2008 12:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

There is a great argument for 4 Angel pitchers in that AS game

Saunders
Santana
KRod
Lackey

This is BAD Vlad and his band of wimps!

by K3YEROUT on Jul 4, 2008 1:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't forget Justin Speier!

Oh, wait.

Willits needs to play, every, single, freaking, day. Now.

by 101halo on Jul 4, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would go so far as to say

that not only is there an argument for all 4, but all 4 should damn well make it.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 4, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They make it according ESPN's Player Ratings thingy

Though there are a number of pitchers (Marcum, Danks, Hernandez) who get shafted in the process.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Jul 4, 2008 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ahem ... it's only an exhibition game

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Jul 4, 2008 5:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

No way

Remember “and now it counts!”

Bye Bye Ohio, hello Valencia!

by anaheimisnotla on Jul 5, 2008 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

sorry fellow Angels fans

The easy choice is Lee and Volquez his opponent (although you could make an argument for Lincecum)

Where I am still waiting for Howie to take another base on balls

by hk47 on Jul 5, 2008 11:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Actually, I would rather

none of our guy pitched in the game. I’d rather they get the rest and have a chip on their shoulder for the remainder of the season.

GA GA he's the man, if he can't do it, no one can

by Moondoggy on Jul 5, 2008 3:00 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

panther

i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all

by halofan4life on Jul 5, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs