Frankie might not be so selfish afterall "I'm very blessed and very happy. All the work I put into...

Frankie might not be so selfish afterall

"I'm very blessed and very happy. All the work I put into it, I think it's paid off. But I don't want to sound selfish. It's not all about me. It's about the ballclub and winning ballgames."

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I think we will find the answer some time in Nov/Dec.

by sothball on Aug 24, 2008 6:47 PM PDT 0 recs

agreed...

I suspect Frankie is the type who it will be “all about the money”…as in, who offers the most! It might be about the team right now, but….

Whodathunk we would be rooting for a former Ranger come August...?

by K3YEROUT on Aug 24, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up 0 recs

He'll be all about the money in October

The rest is press releases. C’mon, look at it from his point of view: this is his biggest (and perhaps only) opportunity to make some coin on everything he’s learned and done. I can’t blame him.

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by scareduck on Aug 24, 2008 11:39 PM PDT up 0 recs

I don't remember the exact quote from Frankie after he lost in arbitration...

…it sure wasn’t, “I am so glad I will make $10,000,000.00 this year!!”.
If it comes down to it, I suspect franchise loyalty will about 4th on the list of priorities behind $/year, length of contract, and post-season opportunities.
If the spread between an Angel offer and another team is beyond $1,000,000.00/year, I figure he is as good as gone…

by sothball on Aug 25, 2008 8:23 AM PDT up 0 recs

Guys like Jose Guillen do not get the big bucks

Frankie must be a team guy on some level.

by Rev Halofan on Aug 24, 2008 9:09 PM PDT 0 recs

You probably don’t have the rest of the bullpen rushing out to congratulate you on your 50th save if you’re just a selfish, money-driven jerk.

by TheTypingFiend on Aug 24, 2008 10:14 PM PDT up 0 recs

Guys like Bonds sure do.

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on Aug 25, 2008 1:56 AM PDT up 0 recs

barry also play(ed)s 140+ games a year and OPS over 1.2

I AM THOR, GOD OF THUNDER. BOW TO MY WILL AND MY HAMMER!

by anaheim angels on Aug 25, 2008 6:51 PM PDT up 0 recs

Really? What's he getting paid right now?

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Aug 26, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

He is 42

He spent a lot of his career as the highest paid player in the game

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Aug 27, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up 0 recs

And he'd still probably be one of the better players on several teams.

But nobody wanted to touch him.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Aug 28, 2008 7:32 AM PDT up 0 recs

agreed

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Aug 28, 2008 9:27 AM PDT up 0 recs

I don't think Guillen has it all that bad

With a $12 million a year contract for the next three seasons.

by BBFan1 on Aug 25, 2008 10:35 PM PDT up 0 recs

its about making that cheddahhhhhhhhhhh

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by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 24, 2008 9:11 PM PDT 0 recs

you can't blame a guy for playing the market...

its a simple philosophical question:

is 10 million a year and championship potential more satisfying to the soul or 15 million a year in a scrub organization?

"Life is a luminous halo, a semi-transparent envelope surrounding us from the beginning of consciousness to the end."

by NoDakHalo on Aug 24, 2008 9:56 PM PDT 0 recs

Hes got a ring

ill take the significant ass-loads more money option if I was him.

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on Aug 25, 2008 1:57 AM PDT up 0 recs

A little off topic but

did anyone hear Rory Marcus the other night quote Tush-era saying he hired Scott Boras because he knows baseball is a tough business, yadayada. Sounds like great chemistry on the team, great fans, great weather, a championship, etc. might not be enough to keep Tush around. We better pony up TOP dollar for him the way he’s been hitting in Anaheim.

My Halos Heaven: a Mountain Dew in the upper view

by Rally Manatee on Aug 24, 2008 10:04 PM PDT 0 recs

He should be our new franchise player.

We need two hats in Cooperstown.

Tex’s would look nice next to Vlad’s.

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on Aug 25, 2008 1:58 AM PDT up 0 recs

i think that this is his way of building up his rep!

i have all ways gotten the feeling that F-rod is a selfish self-centered all about the money kind of guy. so this is his way of playing up his “devotion” to the team. in actuality all he wants is the coin, which he deserves. i say 3 years with an option for the 4th at 12-13 mil per

There is an "Angel in the outfield" and his name is GA! ps. he is lazy but not a bum GO HALOS!

by wallispdub1 on Aug 24, 2008 10:06 PM PDT 0 recs

Name me 2 free agents that didn't go for the big money? What world are you people living in?

Over the last 5 years we’ve been losing players mostly to age and injury or just general suckitude. But look beyond SoCal people. There’s a whole world out there!

If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.

by melvintoast on Aug 25, 2008 6:54 AM PDT 0 recs

OK, it's only 1 and it's NBA, but...

Rick Fox…. Took a pay cut to come and play for the Lakers.

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Aug 25, 2008 8:31 AM PDT up 0 recs

He took a pay cut because he wanted to be an actor.

It wasn’t about team loyalty. It was about being in Hollywood

If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.

by melvintoast on Aug 25, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

Vlad

Has indicated he’d take a pay cut (from what he’d get otherwise) to stay with the Angels.

Light Up That Halo!

by Clutch on Aug 25, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up 0 recs

Um.... REALLY!?!? Where's it say that?

If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.

by melvintoast on Aug 25, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up 0 recs

Vlad originally chose the Angels

not because they gave him top dollar, but because he didn’t like the East Coast teams and did like ours.

My Halos Heaven: a Mountain Dew in the upper view

by Rally Manatee on Aug 25, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up 0 recs

LA Times August 10th

“As Vladimir Guerrero talks, softly, he wants to make his position perfectly clear. He has no desire to test the market, to solicit bids from far and wide, to count down the days until he can become a free agent. He wants to sign a contract extension and finish his career with the Angels. ’That’s something I’d like,’ Guerrero said through translator Jose Mota, "to stay here and not have to move again.” – Bill Shaikin.

I guess he doesn’t technically say he’d take a pay cut, but it’s implied. See the whole story here.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/angels/la-sp-shaikin10-2008aug10,0,1866178.story

My Halos Heaven: a Mountain Dew in the upper view

by Rally Manatee on Aug 25, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up 0 recs

Wasn't there a whole thread on that?

My Halos Heaven: a Mountain Dew in the upper view

by Rally Manatee on Aug 25, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yes

There was.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Aug 26, 2008 6:44 PM PDT up 0 recs

Ok. Aramis Rameriz and Harang. Peavy.

’There is one big one I can not think of right now.

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Aug 25, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up 0 recs

Oh and Buerle is a grreat example.

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Aug 25, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up 0 recs

Buerle took a pay cut? He's getting $15M this year

That’s pretty good for a career 118-85 3.80 ERA

If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.

by melvintoast on Aug 25, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up 0 recs

Below market deal at the time

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Aug 26, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up 0 recs

Whatever you say, I'll ignore the facts.

Starting pitchers
The highest-paid starting pitchers, by average annual value:

Johan Santana, $22,916,667 (2008-13)
Carlos Zambrano, $18,300,000 (2008-12)
Barry Zito, $18,000,000 (2007-13)
Jake Peavy, $17,333,333 (2010-12)
Andy Pettitte, $16,000,000 (2008)
Jason Schmidt, $15,666,667 (2007-09)
Mike Hampton, $15,125,000 (2001-08)
Roy Oswalt, $14,600,000 (2007-11)
Mark Buehrle, $14,000,000 (2008-11)
John Smoltz, $14,000,000 (2008)
Roy Halladay, $13,333,333 (2008-10)
Pedro Martinez, $13,250,000 (2005-08)
Randy Johnson, $13,000,000 (2007-08)
Chris Carpenter, $12,700,000 (2008-11)
Bronson Arroyo, $12,500,000 (2009-10)
Kevin Millwood, $12,000,000 (2006-10)

If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.

by melvintoast on Aug 26, 2008 5:24 PM PDT up 0 recs

More facts for you to ignore

signed extension 7/8/07
08:$14M, 09:$14M, 10:$14M, 11:$14M

a) 4 years is a below market contract length
b) 14 million is less than he would have gotten on the open market.

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Aug 27, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up 0 recs

Ramirez? 5 years $75M

Harang isn’t eligible for free agency.
Neither is Peavy although Peavy has signed an extension that pays him 15M+ starting in 2010 which is when he WOULD have become a free agent.

If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.

by melvintoast on Aug 25, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up 0 recs

They aren't FA's because they signed below market deals to stay with their respective clubs.

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Aug 26, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up 0 recs

They aren't FAs because they don't have 6 years in the MLB.

If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.

by melvintoast on Aug 26, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up 0 recs

2010: He would have gotten a lot more than 15 mil. He left money on the table plain and simple.

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Aug 27, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up 0 recs

aramis took a shit load less from the cubs than we would have offered him

I AM THOR, GOD OF THUNDER. BOW TO MY WILL AND MY HAMMER!

by anaheim angels on Aug 25, 2008 6:55 PM PDT up 0 recs

You're also inside stonemans head I see.

Anyway the assertion that Aramis is underpaid is patently ridiculous:

Third basemen
The highest-paid third basemen, by average annual value:

Alex Rodriguez, $27,500,000 (2008-17)
Miguel Cabrera, $19,037,500 (2008-15)
Aramis Ramirez, $15,000,000 (2007-11)
Adrian Beltre, $12,800,000 (2005-09)
Mike Lowell, $12,500,000 (2008-10)
Chipper Jones, $12,333,333 (2006-08)
Troy Glaus, $11,500,000 (2005-08)
Scott Rolen, $11,500,000 (2003-10)
Eric Chavez, $11,000,000 (2005-10)
Nomar Garciaparra, $9,250,000 (2007-08)
David Wright, $9,166,667 (2007-12)

If GA wasn't so lazy the Halos woulda won the 2008 WS by now.

by melvintoast on Aug 26, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up 0 recs

You do not think there would have been a market for power hitting third baseman?

Weird.

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Aug 27, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up 0 recs

thats also only 4 years. im sure the angels would have offered something like

5-6 years for 16 MM/yr so like 5/80 or 6/90-95

Exceeding expectations is less a matter of luck than possession of certain assets.

by anaheim angels on Aug 28, 2008 1:32 AM PDT up 0 recs

People work for money?

I blame ’toast.

Francisco Rodriguez: 196 career saves. 3 career Panthers, 1/3 as awesome as GMJ.

by Stirrups on Aug 25, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up 0 recs

if memory serves correctly

didnt the entire pitching staff say that they would take a pay cut to keep “b-mo”? (my memory might be tainted) no i dont have a link and i dont know where to find one but i could have sworn i heard that somewhere….

There is an "Angel in the outfield" and his name is GA! ps. he is lazy but not a bum GO HALOS!

by wallispdub1 on Aug 26, 2008 4:59 PM PDT up 0 recs