What to do with Matthews?

Maybe these 2 need work

Jeff Gillooly and Shawn Eckhardt

Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee

by Angel Aviator on Aug 3, 2008 5:29 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

YES, YES ........... Y-E-F'ing-YES!!!!!!!!!

You ever feel as if your mind had started to erode?

by PieceOfAase on Aug 3, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

For those other than POA

These two goon were Tonya Harding’s thugs

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Aug 3, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

this link is the comparison of matthews to ersty

ersty has been mostly a sub and spot starter for the astros but his presence in the clubhouse would be unmatched

i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all

by halofan4life on Aug 3, 2008 5:37 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

Not to mention if he gets the PT that GMJ currently does at all three OF pos

The production goes up and the fans go nuts

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Aug 3, 2008 5:49 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Player to be named later

Erick Aybar or Maicer Izturis

Erstad and Matthews both clear waivers, with cash agreed, as long as the Astros try to put Kazuo Matsui through waivers too.

If the deal doesn’t go through, no biggie, Matthews DFA’ed, we keep Aybar. Other wise it’s a Matthews-Aybar/Izturis for Erstad-Matsui deal with Wood ready hopefully next year.

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Aug 3, 2008 5:53 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

i could live with that

i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all

by halofan4life on Aug 3, 2008 6:05 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable_player_stats.jsp?c_id=mlb§ion1=9&statSet1=1&statType=1&sortByStat=TEAM&timeFrame=1&timeSubFrame=2008&baseballScope=mlb&isCompare=true&teamPosCode=All&box1=XXXX150439anaO&checkBoxTotal=0&playerLocator=erstad

this link

i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all

by halofan4life on Aug 3, 2008 5:38 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

I put him on the 60-day DL and insist on surgery

Look Sarge, the knee ain’t right- you stink. Have surgery and like it.

Reggie Willits is the new you.

Raise your hand if you think in-season surgery is a great idea for GMJ...

by hk47 on Aug 3, 2008 5:38 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

when i heard that he refused to go on the DL

that immediately told me that he doesnt care about the team

i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all

by halofan4life on Aug 3, 2008 5:39 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

then I give him the José Gullien treatment...

out you go, ‘don’t let the door hit yah where the good Lord split yah.”

Raise your hand if you think in-season surgery is a great idea for GMJ...

by hk47 on Aug 3, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

I completely agree

He is a cheating, no talent, piece of crap

Write to the Angels front office. Get Tim Salmon's number 15 retired!

by KingF15h on Aug 3, 2008 6:15 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

sue him

use the money won in litigation to send him and Steve Finley’s butts to Mars.

{picturing the following with GMJ and SF’s faces happening}

load the spaceship with the rocket fuel... load it with the warriors...

by gdog009 on Aug 3, 2008 6:28 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

Too late

If we were going to do something like voiding his contract, it would have been when we found out about it before last season. Matthews could argue (accurately) that his contract was voided because he wasn’t playing well.

by HungryHunter on Aug 3, 2008 6:33 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

i know

i just want to see he and SF’s faces explode.

load the spaceship with the rocket fuel... load it with the warriors...

by gdog009 on Aug 3, 2008 7:25 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Fire him.....

......on grounds that he cheated in contract negotiation, then sue him for salary paid to date.

by SurfCity on Aug 3, 2008 7:06 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

don't play him!

by SCHalo on Aug 3, 2008 7:39 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

sit his sorry ass down and lose his ass on the bench til he is ready to go on the DL to get his knee repaired!

Whodathunk we would be rooting for a former Ranger come August...?

by K3YEROUT on Aug 3, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

i'm demanding they get him an MRI today

and start surgery tomorrow.

by SCHalo on Aug 4, 2008 8:32 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Erstad?

really? i would love to see him in a halo uniform again.

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 3, 2008 8:58 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

wont happen

I have no idea why this keeps popping up lately. Wishfull thinking I guess. If Arte wanted Ersty we would have kept him

Write to the Angels front office. Get Tim Salmon's number 15 retired!

by KingF15h on Aug 4, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

It was just me and wishful thinking

But an Erstad/Matsui trade for Matthews/Aybar makes sense to both us and the Astros. I too believe it will never happen in a million years.

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Aug 4, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

but

wishful thinking is still ok

i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all

by halofan4life on Aug 4, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Hire a private detective to prove he did HGH as an Angel

Then nullify his contract.

by melvintoast on Aug 4, 2008 4:18 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

I think the problem is that he hasn't taken HGH as an Angel.

by snowhor on Aug 4, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

who are the douchebags picking the last option?!

GMJ…Stoneman, are you out there???

:P

Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.

by howiestheman on Aug 4, 2008 12:53 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

Guys I hate to break it to you...

but we are stuck with him, plain and simple

Write to the Angels front office. Get Tim Salmon's number 15 retired!

by KingF15h on Aug 4, 2008 2:07 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

and i personally have no problem with that

IFF he is 100% healthy. and even then, he’s not a starter on this squad, at least not since we got hunter. so in that regard, we are stuck with a highly paid bench player.

by SCHalo on Aug 4, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

depends on what you mean

true, it will be very difficult if not impossible to trade him, or to get a team to take on his contract. but we don’t have to keep have him on the 40 man roster. If I understand waiver rules correctly (and please forgive me if I have misunderstood them, but their complexity should allow some forgiveness) we can place him on waivers. If some team is crazy enough to claim him we could try to work something out, with the main goal of dumping his salary.
If no one claims him we can outright him to the minors. We can only make this move once in his career and would still be on the hook to pay the rest of his contract. However, he is no longer taking up a roster spot.
Another option is to present this plan to him and see if he is more willing to go on the 60 day DL

The way I see it. GMJ does not have much of a future on this team. If the plans are to trade him in the off season then why not clear the roster spot now. It can’t be a question of depth because Juan and Reggie give the team much better options.

by UCIHalo on Aug 4, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

if depth was THAT big of a concern

they could call up Evans or Pavkovich to take the bench slot..

clearly, the problem is salary and the fact that he’s a “veteran player”.

but i agree, they should give him two options: waivers or surgery. he picks and they do it.

Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.

by howiestheman on Aug 4, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Don't theen soo

If a player is out of options (or maybe after you sign a FA deal?), he can’t be sent to the minors without permission. They need to fix that in the next CBA.

Obviously 2008 is a lost cause for GMJ, but it’s only a month until September call-ups, so we can waste an empty roster spot for a month with our big lead.

In 2009 he starts fresh, I mean even I don’t think he is this bad. Then if he still sux, by about midyear he should accept a trade to the National Minor League since he will want playing time, I’m sure.

by elricsi on Aug 4, 2008 5:33 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

That's what being Designated for Assignement is

After all of a player’s option years are up they have to accept the Assignment to the minors, if they want to stay with the organization.

That’s why you don’t see many young guys or prospects being DFA’d when they don’t perform, they still have option years and are under team control.

That’s not going to change in the next CBA.

by TheTypingFiend on Aug 4, 2008 5:49 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

"What to do with Matthews?"

Give him a hug, and tell him we still love him?

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Aug 4, 2008 11:19 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

gross

have u not seen what he looks like

i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all

by halofan4life on Aug 5, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

He must like his lips.

Hey you! What are horse mackerel!
Hey, the chair are sailing! You believe that I am toad of the month!
(Yes, that is K-Rod's entry music, translated)

by infant on Aug 5, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

That was uncalled for

its his long eyelashes

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Aug 5, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

???

why does any potential solution to matthews problem seem like a lose-lose?

the suing for misrepresentation brings up an interesting legal quandary though and a dangerous legal precedent could be set. i dont really like where that path could lead, better to just close the door on the whole steroid era.

but a bucket of balls is at least useful right?

by linkbruin on Aug 5, 2008 1:24 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

am 570

rex dAwg was on the loose canons talking angels baseball and i quote “Matthew’s is going to be a bench guy from here on out! so we have a good bench!”

did anyone else catch this?

by wallispdub1 on Aug 5, 2008 1:52 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

Rex has been making the rounds dissing GMJ lately.

So this must be old news to Garbage, himself. One would think that he would have used recent appearances to show some pride. If those performances were his version of pride, then FAIL.

Francisco Rodriguez: 191 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.

by Stirrups on Aug 5, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

What you just mentioned as "dissing",

I assign to Rex’s personality of telling the truth as he sees it, as an ex-player.

When Rex speaks off the cuff, I feel as if I am getting the conversation that would be going on between other players on the team, about whatever is going on at the time. I think Rex is the real deal, unlike what I all-too-often hear from his partner Phyz.

by wumbug on Aug 5, 2008 2:33 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

.....Meant to reply to Stirrups' comment.

by wumbug on Aug 5, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Not disagreeing, but if this were a one-off, and management did not agree with him,

they would have put a halt to it several days ago. Clearly they are not instructing him to knowck it off, and they are allowing him to continue his clubhouse chatter.

Francisco Rodriguez: 191 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.

by Stirrups on Aug 5, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

ditto

by wumbug on Aug 5, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Nicky Santoro of "Casino" would know what to do with GMJ

There’s a lot of holes in the desert.

You ever feel as if your mind had started to erode?

by PieceOfAase on Aug 6, 2008 11:53 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

I say we trade him and eat half his salary

Spending $16M to get rid of the fraud is better than spending $33M and keeping him.

by melvintoast on Aug 7, 2008 11:05 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

but we'd have to force him out of his NTC

and no player in their right mind is gonna waive that NTC if hes on a team thats a winner. if we bombed, could be easier, but not so since the team is raking

i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all

by halofan4life on Aug 7, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs