What to do with Matthews?
by howiestheman on Aug 3, 2008 5:22 PM PDT
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PrintAlright... In today's LOSE thread, we've been having the discussion on what to do with Gary Matthews Jr. Many suggestions have come up, so I'll try to include all of them in the following poll.
We have a few options, as I see it, but the best one may be to just cut our losses and DFA him. This guy has been nothing but bad this year, and it looks like he'll only get worse from now on.
What do you all think?
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YES, YES ........... Y-E-F'ing-YES!!!!!!!!!
You ever feel as if your mind had started to erode?
this link is the comparison of matthews to ersty
ersty has been mostly a sub and spot starter for the astros but his presence in the clubhouse would be unmatched
i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all
Not to mention if he gets the PT that GMJ currently does at all three OF pos
The production goes up and the fans go nuts
Don't call me Desmond
Player to be named later
Erick Aybar or Maicer Izturis
Erstad and Matthews both clear waivers, with cash agreed, as long as the Astros try to put Kazuo Matsui through waivers too.
If the deal doesn’t go through, no biggie, Matthews DFA’ed, we keep Aybar. Other wise it’s a Matthews-Aybar/Izturis for Erstad-Matsui deal with Wood ready hopefully next year.
Don't call me Desmond
i could live with that
i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable_player_stats.jsp?c_id=mlb§ion1=9&statSet1=1&statType=1&sortByStat=TEAM&timeFrame=1&timeSubFrame=2008&baseballScope=mlb&isCompare=true&teamPosCode=All&box1=XXXX150439anaO&checkBoxTotal=0&playerLocator=erstad
this link
i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all
I put him on the 60-day DL and insist on surgery
Look Sarge, the knee ain’t right- you stink. Have surgery and like it.
Reggie Willits is the new you.
Raise your hand if you think in-season surgery is a great idea for GMJ...
when i heard that he refused to go on the DL
that immediately told me that he doesnt care about the team
i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all
then I give him the José Gullien treatment...
out you go, ‘don’t let the door hit yah where the good Lord split yah.”
Raise your hand if you think in-season surgery is a great idea for GMJ...
I completely agree
He is a cheating, no talent, piece of crap
Write to the Angels front office. Get Tim Salmon's number 15 retired!
sue him
use the money won in litigation to send him and Steve Finley’s butts to Mars.
{picturing the following with GMJ and SF’s faces happening}
load the spaceship with the rocket fuel... load it with the warriors...
Too late
If we were going to do something like voiding his contract, it would have been when we found out about it before last season. Matthews could argue (accurately) that his contract was voided because he wasn’t playing well.
Fire him.....
......on grounds that he cheated in contract negotiation, then sue him for salary paid to date.
sit his sorry ass down and lose his ass on the bench til he is ready to go on the DL to get his knee repaired!
Whodathunk we would be rooting for a former Ranger come August...?
Erstad?
really? i would love to see him in a halo uniform again.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 3, 2008 8:58 PM PDT reply actions
wont happen
I have no idea why this keeps popping up lately. Wishfull thinking I guess. If Arte wanted Ersty we would have kept him
Write to the Angels front office. Get Tim Salmon's number 15 retired!
It was just me and wishful thinking
But an Erstad/Matsui trade for Matthews/Aybar makes sense to both us and the Astros. I too believe it will never happen in a million years.
Don't call me Desmond
but
wishful thinking is still ok
i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all
who are the douchebags picking the last option?!
GMJ…Stoneman, are you out there???
:P
Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.
Guys I hate to break it to you...
but we are stuck with him, plain and simple
Write to the Angels front office. Get Tim Salmon's number 15 retired!
and i personally have no problem with that
IFF he is 100% healthy. and even then, he’s not a starter on this squad, at least not since we got hunter. so in that regard, we are stuck with a highly paid bench player.
depends on what you mean
true, it will be very difficult if not impossible to trade him, or to get a team to take on his contract. but we don’t have to keep have him on the 40 man roster. If I understand waiver rules correctly (and please forgive me if I have misunderstood them, but their complexity should allow some forgiveness) we can place him on waivers. If some team is crazy enough to claim him we could try to work something out, with the main goal of dumping his salary.
If no one claims him we can outright him to the minors. We can only make this move once in his career and would still be on the hook to pay the rest of his contract. However, he is no longer taking up a roster spot.
Another option is to present this plan to him and see if he is more willing to go on the 60 day DL
The way I see it. GMJ does not have much of a future on this team. If the plans are to trade him in the off season then why not clear the roster spot now. It can’t be a question of depth because Juan and Reggie give the team much better options.
if depth was THAT big of a concern
they could call up Evans or Pavkovich to take the bench slot..
clearly, the problem is salary and the fact that he’s a “veteran player”.
but i agree, they should give him two options: waivers or surgery. he picks and they do it.
Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.
Don't theen soo
If a player is out of options (or maybe after you sign a FA deal?), he can’t be sent to the minors without permission. They need to fix that in the next CBA.
Obviously 2008 is a lost cause for GMJ, but it’s only a month until September call-ups, so we can waste an empty roster spot for a month with our big lead.
In 2009 he starts fresh, I mean even I don’t think he is this bad. Then if he still sux, by about midyear he should accept a trade to the National Minor League since he will want playing time, I’m sure.
That's what being Designated for Assignement is
After all of a player’s option years are up they have to accept the Assignment to the minors, if they want to stay with the organization.
That’s why you don’t see many young guys or prospects being DFA’d when they don’t perform, they still have option years and are under team control.
That’s not going to change in the next CBA.
by TheTypingFiend on Aug 4, 2008 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
"What to do with Matthews?"
Give him a hug, and tell him we still love him?
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
gross
have u not seen what he looks like
i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all
by halofan4life on Aug 5, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
He must like his lips.
Hey you! What are horse mackerel!
Hey, the chair are sailing! You believe that I am toad of the month!
(Yes, that is K-Rod's entry music, translated)
That was uncalled for
its his long eyelashes
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Aug 5, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
???
why does any potential solution to matthews problem seem like a lose-lose?
the suing for misrepresentation brings up an interesting legal quandary though and a dangerous legal precedent could be set. i dont really like where that path could lead, better to just close the door on the whole steroid era.
but a bucket of balls is at least useful right?
am 570
rex dAwg was on the loose canons talking angels baseball and i quote “Matthew’s is going to be a bench guy from here on out! so we have a good bench!”
did anyone else catch this?
Rex has been making the rounds dissing GMJ lately.
So this must be old news to Garbage, himself. One would think that he would have used recent appearances to show some pride. If those performances were his version of pride, then FAIL.
Francisco Rodriguez: 191 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.
What you just mentioned as "dissing",
I assign to Rex’s personality of telling the truth as he sees it, as an ex-player.
When Rex speaks off the cuff, I feel as if I am getting the conversation that would be going on between other players on the team, about whatever is going on at the time. I think Rex is the real deal, unlike what I all-too-often hear from his partner Phyz.
Not disagreeing, but if this were a one-off, and management did not agree with him,
they would have put a halt to it several days ago. Clearly they are not instructing him to knowck it off, and they are allowing him to continue his clubhouse chatter.
Francisco Rodriguez: 191 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.
Nicky Santoro of "Casino" would know what to do with GMJ
There’s a lot of holes in the desert.
You ever feel as if your mind had started to erode?
I say we trade him and eat half his salary
Spending $16M to get rid of the fraud is better than spending $33M and keeping him.
but we'd have to force him out of his NTC
and no player in their right mind is gonna waive that NTC if hes on a team thats a winner. if we bombed, could be easier, but not so since the team is raking
i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all
by halofan4life on Aug 7, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
very true
i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all
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