Shades of 1995 my ass

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 3, 2008 8:53 PM PDT

This team is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay stronger than the team in 1995. Frankly, that team was a fluke and it was a pretty amazing that we did as well as we did that year. The indifference of quiet Lachemann? The crack smoking Tony Phillips? C'mon. That team was a mess...

Today was a tough loss but the good Rev. is only sending bad vibes by even mentioning or daring to compare this team to 95. Ease up a bit...

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Bad vibes?

Shit, why even play the game if the outcome could be determined by “vibes”, good or bad. I hardly think a reminder of the past debacle serves as any sort of jinx or bad vibery (word?). That kind of shit is for Cub fans and Pedro Serrano.

And shouldn’t this post be a response in the post where the supposed bad vibes were dealt?

White trashin' the 909

by Red114 on Aug 3, 2008 9:10 PM PDT 0 recs

You didn't sacrifice to Jobu today?

Damn you. That’s why we lost.

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Aug 3, 2008 9:25 PM PDT up 0 recs

And lame ass Red Sox fans until they won in 04.

by seamariners85 on Aug 4, 2008 8:21 AM PDT up 0 recs

TONY PHILLIPS

Busted for crack in August of 1997 but enjoy the frontrunning with us anyway.

by Rev Halofan on Aug 3, 2008 9:25 PM PDT 0 recs

Watching TP with the Tigers

I also thought he looked completely nuts, or strung out.

by ViolaHalo on Aug 4, 2008 5:50 AM PDT up 0 recs

wow, harsh man

Let me try to understand what you are saying…

If you don’t have all of your facts 100% correct all the time, then you are a frontrunner? You need to lighten up Rev

Write to the Angels front office. Get Tim Salmon's number 15 retired!

by KingF15h on Aug 4, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up 0 recs

okay good point...

...just trying to get under everyone’s skin but not trying to shut down vigorous debate.

by Rev Halofan on Aug 4, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up 0 recs

plus

in 1995, if we’d had that extra game and half lead at this team, there wouldnt have been a playoff, i think

i pledge alliegance... to mike Scioscia
and the angels way of baseball
and to each pennant and ring we are sure to win.
one fanatic, under the halo, unwavered
with in n out and world series rings for all

by halofan4life on Aug 4, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up 0 recs

this post is purposefully ironic:

From urbandictionary.com:

troll
2635 up, 160 down

One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

IIIIROOONYYY ooooh IROOOONY

by shiftyeyedgoat on Aug 4, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up 0 recs

frontrunner?

cute. i got a phil leftwich signed ball sitting on my desk just to remind me of the days when the Angels use to suck. try again rev.

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 4, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up 0 recs

I got your 1995 right here...

...what a crock! Name me ONE TEAM who would not be ecstatic about a road trip thru Balt, Beantown, and the Bronx with a 7-3 record?! 1995 that!

Whodathunk we would be rooting for a former Ranger come August...?

by K3YEROUT on Aug 3, 2008 10:53 PM PDT 0 recs

If we navigate the ship through the next 10 we can probably put '95 to sleep.

Then we’d be talking about whether we’d be repeating 2007, 2005 and 2004.

111 Thu, Aug 24 CAL  BAL  W 6-4  67-44 up 8.5 C Finley     A Rhodes   +
112 Fri, Aug 25 CAL  BAL  L 2-11 67-45 up 8.5 S Erickson   M Langston -
113 Sat, Aug 26 CAL  BAL  L 2-5  67-46 up 7.5 K Brown      B Anderson --
114 Sun, Aug 27 CAL  BAL  L 0-4  67-47 up 7.5 M Mussina    M Harkey   ---
115 Tue, Aug 29 CAL @NYY  L 4-12 67-48 up 8.0 D Cone       C Finley   ----
116 Wed, Aug 30 CAL @NYY  L 1-4  67-49 up 8.0 A Pettitte   J Abbott   -----
117 Thu, Aug 31 CAL @NYY  L 6-11 67-50 up 7.5 S Hitchcock  B Anderson ------
118 Fri, Sep  1 CAL @BOS  L 3-11 67-51 up 6.5 R Clemens    S Boskie   -------
119 Sat, Sep  2 CAL @BOS  L 4-5  67-52 up 6.5 Z Smith      M Langston --------
120 Sun, Sep  3 CAL @BOS  L 1-8  67-53 up 5.5 T Wakefield  C Finley   ---------
121 Mon, Sep  4 CAL @BAL  W 5-3  68-53 up 6.5 J Abbott     J Moyer    +
122 Tue, Sep  5 CAL @BAL  L 0-8  68-54 up 5.5 S Erickson   B Anderson -
123 Wed, Sep  6 CAL @BAL  L 2-4  68-55 up 5.5 M Mussina    S Boskie   --
124 Fri, Sep  8 CAL  MIN  W 9-3  69-55 up 6.0 M Langston   J Parra    +

by melvintoast on Aug 4, 2008 5:04 AM PDT 0 recs

Demons already exorcised...

The same exact road trip the Halos just took at NY, Boston, and Baltimore in 1995 they went 1-8. The 2008 version went 7-3. Not even a close comparison. Even pessimistic old me is not thinking about ‘95.

Also, Tony Phillips was almost a guaranteed 3 strikeouts per game in the final stretches of 1995. At least at home games. Nobody seated around me would bet against me even before the game started when I said “I’ll wager $100 that Phillips will strike out three times today…” He’d do it religiously. His intro music was “Start me up” by the Rolling Stones, also the theme music for MS Windows on TV commercials at the time.

by Downing Rules on Aug 4, 2008 7:57 AM PDT up 0 recs

Also, August 3rd ...

was the date in which DiSar was injured in 1995. Nobody got hurt yesterday. Whew.

by Downing Rules on Aug 4, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up 0 recs

although....GMJ didn't get hurt yesterday

and if he keeps playing, that may be just as bad

by ZiK on Aug 4, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yesterday does not count...

No Vlad AND no Hunter = No Win.

by Downing Rules on Aug 4, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up 0 recs

End of long hellish East Coast road trip where we went 7-3

and we go home. No Vlad, no Hunter, no defense, no WIN. So what. 40 more to play? Let’s do them. Roll the hole!

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Aug 4, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

Great point

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Aug 4, 2008 6:41 PM PDT up 0 recs

question, toast:

how do you post stats in aligned tables like that?

by shiftyeyedgoat on Aug 4, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up 0 recs

<pre> tags

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Aug 4, 2008 7:08 PM PDT up 0 recs

I just learned it today by right clicking melvin's post...

by Downing Rules on Aug 4, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up 0 recs

2 words

Mike Scioscia…..he’s the single reason we will have the home field advantage.

by SCHalo on Aug 4, 2008 8:23 AM PDT 0 recs

We'll see about that

I seem to recall a couple years back in the 2005 postseason when the Angels started resting everyone after the clinch and they lost out on home field advantage.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Aug 4, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up 0 recs

Guys have been resting all year long...

much different scenario this year, you gotta admit.

by Downing Rules on Aug 4, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up 0 recs

depth

has been big this year and, for the most part, has come through. this was a good week for sure but i think we can play .600 or better from here on out. once Teixeira gets going, look out. and thank God Torii is back with us.

by SCHalo on Aug 4, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up 0 recs

I have the halos pegged at 529 the rest of the way...

27-24 to finish with a 9-game cushion.

by Downing Rules on Aug 4, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up 0 recs

That's 96 wins with barely over a .500 record.

God-damn I love this team.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Aug 4, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up 0 recs

bellissimo

by Downing Rules on Aug 4, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up 0 recs

Vlad getting an occasional day off is a good thing

Hunter was at a funeral it is not as if this lineup is a regular occurrence.

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Aug 4, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up 0 recs

In 1995

I made one of the biggest mistakes of my life. This year I had my first child. Surely these two things are indicators.

Not that we’re superstitious here…..

by ViolaHalo on Aug 4, 2008 10:52 AM PDT 0 recs

What mistake was that?

Following the Angels in September?

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Aug 4, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up 0 recs

My Guesses for the Halos' final stretch...

2008 Remaining Angel Games ...
date(s)     / opponent    / seriesW-L / cumulative record
8/04 - 8/06 / Baltimore   / 2-1    / 2-1          
8/08 - 8/10 / Yankees     / 1-2    / 3-3 
8/12 - 8/13 / Seattle     / 1-1    / 4-4          
8/15 - 8/17 / @ Cleveland / 2-1    / 6-5
8/18 - 8/20 / @ Tampa Bay / 1-2    / 7-7
8/21 - 8/24 / Minnesota   / 2-2    / 9-9
8/25 - 8/27 / Oakland     / 2-1    / 11-10
8/28 - 8/31 / Texas       / 3-1    / 14-11
9/02 - 9/04 / @ Detroit   / 1-2    / 15-13
9/05 - 9/07 / @ Chisox    / 1-2    / 16-15
9/08 - 9/10 / Yankees     / 2-1    / 18-16
9/11 - 9/14 / Seattle     / 2-2    / 20-18
9/16 - 9/18 / @ Oakland   / 2-1    / 22-19
9/19 - 9/21 / @ Texas     / 1-2    / 23-21
9/24 - 9/26 / @ Seattle   / 2-2    / 25-23
9/27 - 9/30 / Texas       / 2-1    / 27-24

So, a simple 529 win percentage will make it nearly impossible for Texas to win the division. If Texas sweeps all 7 head to head contests, I do estimate that they can win the division.

by Downing Rules on Aug 4, 2008 12:29 PM PDT 0 recs

This is low balling it right? I don't think we'll split 3 series with Seattle. No way, no day. But i'm guessing you're being modest.

Whatever dude.

by Mayheminthehood on Aug 4, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up 0 recs

Very conservative. Yes.

I am usually a pessimist a la scareduck, but I try my best to be positive here on HH.

Yeah, the Angels should do better than splitting 10 games with the M’s…you are right. OK, they might make 100 wins, then.

by Downing Rules on Aug 4, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up 0 recs

I agree that worrying about 1995 is a stretch at this point

We lost 2 games guys. 2. The Yankees are a good team and we split with them. We are in fine shape

Write to the Angels front office. Get Tim Salmon's number 15 retired!

by KingF15h on Aug 4, 2008 2:10 PM PDT 0 recs

nah

It’s kind of like that scene from the world according to Garp: The plane smashes into the house and he says “I’ll take it because the odds of that happening again are like zero.”

We had our monster collapse, the Phillies had theirs in 64, it was the Mets last year, the next one is someone else’s turn.

The Angels have to not panic, and keep everyone rested, and don’t play injured players too much. I’m pretty sure every collapse happened in part because the manager kept the whip on too long.

by elricsi on Aug 4, 2008 5:38 PM PDT up 0 recs

Whoa!

Someone quoting “World according to Garp.” Amazing!

Good quote, though.

by Downing Rules on Aug 4, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up 0 recs

I know its lame

but thats probably my favorite book. Go Halo’s.

You are what you type.

by rjcicc on Aug 4, 2008 11:00 PM PDT up 0 recs

1995 never happened brothas and sistas

It’s like Nam. Never forget, never forget, but it never happened man. It just never F—-ing happened man.

Don't call me Desmond

by highlandhalo on Aug 4, 2008 6:44 PM PDT 0 recs

This 1995 stuff is meant to be tongue and cheek, right?

hat team= young team without many battle tested players, and had a chasing M’s team with the best lefthander (Big Unit) and greatest hitter (Griffey) of our generation.

This team= plethora of gamers who have been there and done that and have two teams without any pitching depth or hall of fame caliber players. Hamilton’s a freak, but no pitching mean no chance.

It would take a catastrophic chain of injuries, knock on wood, to stop this team and even if that happens the Angels are still far and away the best team in the division because of their depth.

by KendrickExperience on Aug 4, 2008 6:49 PM PDT 0 recs

you know

its difficult for fans to forgot potentially scarring events, 1995 being one for angels fans. so whenever things seem to potentially seem to take a turn for the worse people say “oh man its just like that (blank) time.” its not a bad thing, just preparing for potential disappointment in one’s mind. Not saying that’s gonna happen (knock on wood) but a balance between optimism and pessimism is how people work So shades of 1995 isnt that big of a deal and should be understood as such

by linkbruin on Aug 5, 2008 1:20 AM PDT 0 recs