Baseball Tonight is doing a series on Franchise Players

by Grichfan on Aug 7, 2008 5:38 PM PDT

You can vote on ESPN. com by clicking here.

They are going team-by-team alphabetically - too bad they list the Angels in the L.A. spot.

The Angels choices are:

Garrett Anderson (1994-present)

Brian Downing (1978-1990)

Darin Erstad (1996-2006):

Chuck Finley (1986-1999):

Troy Glaus (1998-2004):

Bobby Grich (1977-1986):

Troy Percival (1995-2004):

Nolan Ryan (1972-1979):

Tim Salmon (1992-2006):

Frank Tanana (1973-1980)

I think Baylor and possibly Carew could have been on this list.

The Angels results will be revealed on Aug. 17

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If they are just picking one.......it has to be Salmon.......

although GA is a close second.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 7, 2008 5:50 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

The last time someone did one of these, that "Hometown Heroes" travesty,

Rod Carew got it.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Aug 7, 2008 7:38 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Where's Vlad?

Or is there a certain length of service required?

I would go with Timmy regardless.

Light Up That Halo!

by Clutch on Aug 7, 2008 5:59 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

i checked out all the teams

and vlad is a nationals (expos) choice

Mike Scioscia For President

by Sorbo182 on Aug 8, 2008 3:00 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

I wondered about Vlad too ...

But I think he’d need to be here more than 5 season to qualify as the greatest Angel – not just the greatest player to put on an Angels uni

"And the Anaheim Angels are the Champions of Baseball!"

by Grichfan on Aug 7, 2008 6:20 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

"A panel of ESPN experts will rank the top three players for each franchise..."

CLOWN SHOES

by 44FAN on Aug 7, 2008 6:30 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

Jim Fregosi was an original Angel, a six-time All-Star, the best major league shortstop between Ernie Banks and Robin Yount, received MVP votes in eight consecutive years, then got traded for franchise icon Nolan Ryan and various other players who were flipped for a series of other players including franchise icon Brian Downing … and along the way he managed the first-ever Angel team to win a Division Title.

So yeah, no reason to put him on this list.

by mattwelch on Aug 7, 2008 7:22 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

And it's a crappy medium to pull this off

The HH Top 100 list is pretty comprehensive (except for, sorry, Mickey Rivers), but even then I think the voters got the top 10 right; you can argue about placement, but there’s no question that with the aforesaid exception, all the Angels’ greats made it on the list. Television is all about time constraints, and with these east coast biased idiots voting, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them put short-timer Reggie Jackson atop the list just because of the Mr. October thing. Not that he’s not a good player, but he’s about to fall off the Top 40 Angels list thanks to the Angels’ recent successes. You’ve got to rank him back of a number of players on the current roster, including Vlad, Garret Anderson, and yes, Tim Salmon.

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by scareduck on Aug 8, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

F.Y.I.

The only player in MLB HISTORY with at least one gold glove at more than one position: Darin Earstad

by MidwayCityLivestock on Aug 7, 2008 8:55 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

Not quite.

Only player in MLB history with a GG in both the outfield and infield.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Aug 7, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

What did Robin Yount do?

MVP or gold gloves in both positions?

since 1961

by Chompo on Aug 8, 2008 8:40 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

AL MVP: 82 at SS, 89 at CF

by Brew Angel on Aug 8, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

That's clearly less impressive than 2 gold gloves. Clearly.

by snowhor on Aug 8, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Tough one....

they are not on the ballet, but for me it’s a toss up between Edgardo Alfonso, Steve Finley, and Pat Rapp.

by Doctor Wu on Aug 7, 2008 9:05 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

For the uninitiated

Light Up That Halo!

by Clutch on Aug 7, 2008 9:10 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Durn posting problems

Or for those not really paying attention from the late eighties through a good part of the nineties (and not alive to experience 1961-1984), who was Pat Rapp?

Light Up That Halo!

by Clutch on Aug 7, 2008 9:10 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

To wit-

Went 5-12 for us in 2001. Didn’t actually have all that horrible an ERA at 4.76.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Aug 7, 2008 9:17 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

pitcher 2001

by Doctor Wu on Aug 7, 2008 9:51 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Call me crazy...

but Chuck Finley is my favorite Halos pitcher of all time, followed by the other two lethal lefties langston and abbott, and then followed by another lefty jarrod washburn. I also think if some of those BBWAA writers sat down for a hot second and looked at the numbers, than blyleven and finley would both be in the hall of fame. That’s just me talkin’ though… can I get at least one fellow HH’er hallelujiah?

by ponusbaum43 on Aug 7, 2008 9:41 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

HOF

Bert B yes

Chucky fin2win good-not-great-NO.

by Rev Halofan on Aug 7, 2008 10:29 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Chuck Finley...

Hall of the Very Good…

Not the HOF.

But, put him on a kick ass team for the length of his career – one that wins a couple division titles, an ALCS and gets to or wins the series it might be a different story.

He won a lot of games for some shitty Angel teams….

Jim Scully

Jim Scully Home
Haloville - Land of the Halos

by jimmuscomp on Aug 7, 2008 11:00 PM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

Chuck Finley...

...was an awesome pitcher – my favourite Angel while I lived in Orange County. I wouldn’t put him in the hall of fame though.

Can’t believe Glaus is on this list and Fregosi isn’t. That’s bollocks.

I see red people

by The Limey on Aug 8, 2008 12:23 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

mine too

finley was great n we sucked awhile there.

If your a true Angel... Gary Mathews --you'll stare into the sun long enough to go blind.

by calikraze on Aug 8, 2008 12:29 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

My picks

It was tough to narrow down the greats and I am sure I am missing some names:

Steve Sparks
Kent Bottenfield
Ramon Ortiz
Julio Ramirez
Jose Guillen
Nolan Ryan

I think the vote will go towards Nolan.

by BBFan1 on Aug 7, 2008 11:49 PM PDT reply reply 0 recs

My vote goes for Bottenfield.

If you ignore all stats except for wins, he was a great pitcher the year before we got him.

Oh, and how come Steve Finley and Shea Hillenbrand didn’t make the list? Or GMJ? Please, please put GMJ on your list and I’ll change my vote. He’s the tops!

by snowhor on Aug 8, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs

No Fregosi

Give me a break.

Although I would choose Salmon or GA.

Vlad coming up.

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Aug 8, 2008 4:02 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

BOBBY GRICH

"Life is a luminous halo, a semi-transparent envelope surrounding us from the beginning of consciousness to the end."

by NoDakHalo on Aug 8, 2008 9:12 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

I am more interested in the quest to find Titletown.

Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.

Kobe tell me how my ass tastes

by hauldog on Aug 8, 2008 9:29 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

umm

everyone voted for tim right

by ihearhowie2.0 on Aug 8, 2008 10:49 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

not to split hairs, BUT...

Although the subject of the poll is franchise players, the question of the poll is “Who is the all-time greatest player in Angels history?” To me, these are two slightly different things. For example, Darin Erstad would rank highly on my list of franchise players (much like HH’s Greatest Angels list), but he would rank further down on my list of “greatest players”, which to me seems to value performance on the field over impact on a franchise. (This would be a perfect segue into my infamous PHIL ratings scale, but I’ll save that for another time.)

I only mention this because perhaps the Tim Salmon selection isn’t as obvious as it seems…GA, anybody???

by yeswecan on Aug 8, 2008 11:04 AM PDT reply reply 0 recs

Timmy >> Anderson

I really don’t think it’s close; Salmon gave the Angels eight seasons of .500+ SLG, five years of which he hit 30+ homers. Anderson had only four seasons with .500+ SLG. Moreover, Anderson never had a single season OBP over .400, but Timmy did that three times, and was at or above .380 eight times; Anderson, zero times. Anderson had only one season with 30 or more home runs; Salmon had four.

Don’t get me wrong, GA has been a valuable player, but Tim Salmon was much better because he was a far more disciplined and more consistently powerful hitter.

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by scareduck on Aug 8, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply reply 0 recs