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Guys - this is almost surreal in parts.......Just look at some of the predictions!......We have achieved the 2-fer with the addition of Tex......It is a year and 2/3 late, but take a read and enjoy....from Joe Florkowski,  Sept 2006:

 

It’s time to jettison the Wonder Dog and Physioc

by Joe Florkowski

Angels owner Arte Moreno has promised some big changes for the Angels organization in the coming off-season, which –barring a bus falling on the Oakland A’s – will occur in 11 games.

Moreno made his comments to the Los Angeles Times after the Angels held a series of organizational meetings Tuesday in Kansas City before the Angels-Royals game. The L.A Times article spent most of the article discussing the likely moves the Angels will make this off-season.

Here’s who is not expected to be back with the Angels next season: Adam Kennedy, J.C. Romero, Kevin Gregg (Gasp!). Guys who could be traded: Chone Figgins, Joe Saunders, Ervin Santana.

Here’s who could be with the Angels: free-agents Carlos Lee and Alfonso Soriano. The Times article also mentioned that the Angels could pursue centerfielders Tori Hunter or Vernon Wells through trade or even go after Cubs third baseman Aramis Ramirez.

And while I like talking about these guys, I think there is one move Arte Moreno needs to make in the off-season which goes under the radar but needs to be done.

Moreno needs to get rid of the Angels broadcasting team of Rex Hudler and Steve Physioc.

This is not the first time I’ve mentioned here that Hudler and Physioc need to go but this time I’m not simply saying they need to go because of their usual incompetence – although that does play a part in their needed departure.

As Moreno considers overhauling the team, he should consider removing the two who serve as the “voice” of the team. As Arte seeks to create a nationwide brand for the Angels, he should take a careful look at the broadcast booth. It’s tough to market the team nationally when you have Heckle and Jeckle serving as the TV presence for the Angels.

In order to sell this team to more fans, I think Moreno needs to find someone else for the TV broadcasts. Hudler and Physioc simply don’t do a good job of calling the game.

To wit, last Friday, Vladimir Guerrero hit a home run in the 11th inning off a Rangers reliever to put the Angels up 2-1. Both Hudler and Physioc were so ecstatic about the home run that they did not inform the television viewer that the Rangers were changing pitchers so the TV broadcast inexplicably went to a commercial. (Longtime baseball fans knew that the Rangers were bringing in a left-hander to face left-handed hitting Garret Anderson but Rex and Steve did not bring this up until seconds before Anderson saw the first pitch of the at bat.)

Maybe it’s because Southern California viewers have been spoiled by years of hearing Vin Scully call games for the Dodgers but Rex and Steve simply don’t do their homework. You can listen to Vin Scully call an Angels –Dodgers game and you’ll get more relevant information about the Angels from Scully than you will from the Hudler-Physioc team.

(I think this is because Scully still interviews players from both teams and does his research and checks the facts. Hudler, unfortunately, still thinks he’s a member of the Angels. For example, when Tim Salmon hit his 298th home run against the Texas Rangers on Sunday, Hudler let out what can only be called an orgasmatic yell for the Salmon blast.)

And I know I am comparing one of the all-time greats with two of the most dynamic dolts in broadcasterdom – but the gap between Scully and another newly hired broadcast team could be narrowed. Right now, the talent and professionalism of Scully blows away Hudler and Physioc’s chittering.

So there you go, what seems like an annual rant against Hudler and Physioc. But the Angels deserve a better announcing team; my vote would go to Angels’ radio team Rory Markus and Terry Smith – two guys who generally stay objective with the Angels but manage to have fun while calling the game and inform and entertain. Markus and Smith also do one of the best jobs I’ve heard of updating the box score for viewers listening and scoring at home. Can you think of the last time Hudler or Physioc gave the scoring on a play?

OK, rant over. But Arte Moreno, if you’re reading this, make this one of your major moves in the off-season, OK? And all things aside, I’d be willing to deal with having a Tori Hunter or Vernon Wells in center field and one other power bat and then I’d be willing to keep Hudler and Physioc. But only barely.

 

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i hate Vin Scully. I think he’s dry, boring and unenthusiastic about the game.

i also don’t mind Phys and Rex, but that’s partly because i’ve watched the most games with them.

if they were to make changes in the broadcast booth, i’m all for the Rory/Rex duo. we heard them together once this year (Toronto?) and it was amazing. I absolutely loved the two of them together.

Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.

by howiestheman on Aug 9, 2008 8:14 PM PDT reply actions  

How far back can you remember listening to Scully?

I can assure you, back in the 60’s and 70’s his reverence for the game, and his ability to enthuse and inspire, were unparalleled. And he was able to do it without sounding like a shill or a goofball.

But, yes, I find it disheartening to listen to him now. Although still better thanmany, he pales in comparison to his own standard from earlier decades.

Francisco Rodriguez: 191 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.

by Stirrups on Aug 9, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm 20, if that gives you any indication.

Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.

by howiestheman on Aug 9, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then, sorry, kid. You missed absolute gold.

Maybe you search around for some of the older WS replays. More than a few of them had Scully at the mic, and not of those included the Dodgers.

Francisco Rodriguez: 191 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.

by Stirrups on Aug 9, 2008 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

you know, i've heard some older stuff

and while it’s better than his stuff now, i still just can’t get into it.
i dunno… like the Rev once said… Vin Scully is a generational thing. if you grew up with him, he’s the greatest. if you didn’t, he’s nothing special.

Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.

by howiestheman on Aug 9, 2008 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing special.

One of the greatest baseball announcer in the history of humankind, rated as high as the greatest all-time, “nothing special”?

I’ve seen that reaction before. Sounds a lot like your first taste of a great dark beer, or a fine brandy.

I would suggest that you are missing out on something very special.

Francisco Rodriguez: 191 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.

by Stirrups on Aug 9, 2008 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

i never said he was nothing special

all i said was that that seems to be the common thought among my generation.

i know he’s one of the greatest, but as i said, i just don’t care for him.

Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.

by howiestheman on Aug 9, 2008 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not only did we have Vin

But we had Chick and Bob Miller, too.

Did anyone see the Fox Sports special that had the three of them together?

I hate the Dodgers, but it’s damn near impossible to hate Vin.

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Aug 10, 2008 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's possible

I hate Vin. His voice is annoying, and he’s drab. I’ve never like him. I go back a little further than howieistheman, I’m 30. The only thing I’ll give him is that he is articulate. I think Rory Marcus is much better. Rory is articulate, pithy, engaging, and accurate.

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Aug 11, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rory and Rex

I have been beating that drum a LONG time and will continue to.

by Rev Halofan on Aug 9, 2008 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed -- I love Hudler

It’s Physioc I can’t stand.

by gilbert on Aug 9, 2008 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scully still says stuff

You will never, ever hear from the Fizzz and Rex show…to wit:

In a game last year when Black Magic was to be pitching vs the Dodgers, Sculley’s intro was:

“And pitching for the Angels is Ervin Saaan Taanaa,....a loooong drink o’ water….”

Classic!....abso-fucking-lutely classic!

(You younger guys will probably not appreciate that)

by SocalAngelFaninOC on Aug 9, 2008 9:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Get rid of Hudler?!

FAIL beyond all proportions.
shakes fist

== Resident Point Tallier ==

by scottnak on Aug 9, 2008 9:33 PM PDT reply actions  

they gave him his own radio show

he’s a fan favorite.

i doubt he’s going anywhere.

Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.

by howiestheman on Aug 9, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need to go all red in the booth.

Rory Markus and Hudler…those two are the best team out of the group.

by HungryHunter on Aug 10, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can we get

Dick Enberg back?

Come on he was the guy at the mic for a long time. I still remember listening to him call Nolan Ryan’s no hitters as I sat on the living room floor. Of course having Don Drysdale as his side kick was also great. That was the rival to the Vin and Ross and Jerry Dodgers. Not to mention for all those younger Angel fans Dick Enberg after every Angels victory, would wrap up his broadcast with “And the Halo shines tonight.”

Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee

by Angel Aviator on Aug 9, 2008 9:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Enberg remains my favorite Halo broadcaster of all time.

Francisco Rodriguez: 191 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.

by Stirrups on Aug 9, 2008 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite Enberg-ism was...

when the Angels had the bases loaded, he’d say, “There’s a halo over every base”. Not exciting, but it gave me chills non-the-less.

I was uncool before uncool was cool.

by WiHaloFan on Aug 10, 2008 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hear others say that now and I love it

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Aug 11, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every 2-1 pitch was an "action pitch"

And he was usually right. Clearly he is my all time favorite (hence the signature).

Touch'em all

by THE VOICE on Aug 11, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I owe him royalties

Our band’s album is called “The Halo is Lit Tonight.”

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Aug 11, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Enojugh of the Hudler and Physioc talk...

those guys are just fine. If they can find a better broadcast team, then great. However, Rory Markus and Mark Gubicza are not better.

by Downing Rules on Aug 9, 2008 11:52 PM PDT reply actions  

What makes you say Rory and Gub are not better?

Rory is hilarious, well spoken, and not such a gamer. Gub is smarter than Rex, and a better ex-player. He’s actually taught me things I didn’t know before, and I thought I knew everything about baseball.

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Aug 11, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rex is way better than Gub. Gub is flat and dull, while Rex is hilarious and awesome.

Steve and Rex are just more interesting to listen to.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Aug 11, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd compromise and go for Rory and Rex

Someone said Rory is trying to be Vin, but Phys is trying to be Joe Buck, and that’s even worse.

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Aug 11, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agent Scully verses Heckle & Jekyl

Some of my earliest childhood memories are of riding in the car with my dad, listening as the AM radio fading in and out under bridges, and the voice of Scully talking about Farmer John Hot Dogs. So Vin Scully will always be the Voice of Baseball, and that’s that.

As for Hud and Fizz, well… Rory and Goobie may be more respectable on the surface, but they have this tendancy to get bored during the game and start going off on completely non-germane tangents. They dynamic between Fizz and Hud is great because it’s almost like another generational reboot of Laurel and Hardy, Abott and Costello, Cousin Larry and Balki, etc.

Take for example one AM broadcast a week or two ago (and bear in mind I’m seriously paraphrasing):

Hud: “You know, I received a letter from a listener recently, and they said I shouldn’t be saying ‘we won’ or ‘we scored’ because it’s not professional or not right – I should be more, you know, objective – what do you think, Fizz?”

Fizz: “I’m not on the 25 man roster, so I say ‘they,’ not ‘we,’ I think that’s what’s appropriate.”

Hud: “I just get too excited and into the moment, you know? I just get all involved -“

Fizz: “Well, I just do my best to contain the force that is You…”

Rory and Goobie will probably never be remembered. Rex is an anomaly in and of himself so much now that when Hula Dula, charmingest human on earth, gave his press conference to announce his enthusiastic move to Anaheim with Rusty the Rally Monkey on his shoulder, he said “yeah, me and this monkey, we’re best friends… and Rex Hudler! Yeah, baby!”

"I've got more action than my man John Woo
And I've got mad hits like I was Rod Carew" - Shure Shot, The Beastie Boys

by Zoe Necrosis on Aug 10, 2008 6:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Hud is THE Color commentator

And as such, I think he is the best at adding something different to the broadcast. On the RH show on Friday, Hud basically gave it up that he had no grooming when it came to broadcasting, he was thrown out there and a mic pushed in front of him. I think in the few years since he has been in the box, he has improved a lot. At the same time, I think the fact that he is so out of his element (out of the dugout and in the broadcasting box) makes him better as the color guy. Also, his recent background as a player I think is valuable (same for Gubi).

Phys, on the other hand, forgets the count/inning/etc regularly, or gets names wrong. For the non-color guy (whats he called?) to fail like this is unforgivable. I wouldn’t cry to see him go, but I would if the fired Hud.

Rory Markus sounds to me like he is trying to be Vin Jr. Being a Vin fan, this doesn’t bother me, it’s like a throwback to the Vin heyday, but it’s nothing special. Rory would be a bearable replacement for Phys.

“Some of my earliest childhood memories are of riding in the car with my dad, listening as the AM radio fading in and out under bridges, and the voice of Scully talking about Farmer John Hot Dogs. So Vin Scully will always be the Voice of Baseball, and that’s that.”

Aside from that sounding like a snippet from a good book, I think this has got to be a collective unconscious thing… just reading this, i can hear Vin saying “Farmer John Hotdogs” and it takes me back to listening to LAD games with my grandfather in the late 70’s.

And the crusty old dude who does the Fox national broadcasts, I can’t remember his name, but he drives me up a wall. 9 times out of 10, he talks up the other team and calls Angel’s plays like its a fluke that they are any good.

oh, hi, i’m new around HH, btw.

by tdischino on Aug 10, 2008 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Am I the only one without traces of Dodger poisoning my past?

I keep hearing people reminisce fondly about listening to Dodger games as kids. What the hell? The two things I am most grateful to my parents for teaching me are to respect women and hate the Dodgers. Scully can shove those hot dogs. I mean, I can understand people saying they used to listen to Dodger games because their parents controlled the radio, but once you grew up and got wise, did you renounce the blue or not? If you’re going to keep gushing about your precious moments with the Dodgers, please log off HH and find whatever the frickin Dodger’s blog is called.

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Aug 11, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Believe it not, this was once a Dodger town.

And I hated every minute. THANK GOD THAT IS OVER!

Touch'em all

by THE VOICE on Aug 11, 2008 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Much as I hated the Doyers

and I had a sister who bled blue and was incredibly obnoxious about it…

I’d have to say that Vin in the ‘70s and early ‘80s was about as close to a perfect announcer as you get.
I wish I’d had a chance to hear Red Barber call some games (even though it would have been Yankees). I read his book (“Walk in the Spirit”), and if he announced anything like he wrote, it must have been awesome.

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Aug 11, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm an idiot.

It was a long day at work. Red Barber was also the Doyers.

Angels fan since '67

by red floyd on Aug 11, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

S'alright. It wuz NY. Bad enough.

Francisco Rodriguez: 191 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.

by Stirrups on Aug 11, 2008 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was raised in a household of 10. I was the only Halo fan.

Unless Sandy Koufax was pitching, or the Giants were the opposition, I rejected dodger blue. But that did not mean that I was unable to learn the breadth and depth of the great game of baseball from a master. Most people see baseball as slow, droll and tiring. The perfect human metaphor for wasting away a summer day doing nothing of any import. Scully revealed to me the fierce complexities that unfolded throughout a game, driven by human character. Chess played under a blazing sun by the great, the average, and the off eccentric.

These days, the experience is completely different. I understand that. And I embrace it. I consider the experience of a night at Angels Stadium to be among the very best entertainment experiences in America. And it takes a different kind of media announcer to engage that. But when I focus on the action on the field, and study the battle being waged several batters ahead of even the current pitch, and thrill at the beauty within the pressure within game, I thank Scully.

I tip my hat to anybody who can learn all that from a guy like Steve Physioc.

Francisco Rodriguez: 191 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.

by Stirrups on Aug 11, 2008 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I learned it from somewhere, but it sure as hell wasn't Scully.

I think it was my family. Sure, the broadcaster might provide some insight, but it was discussing the game with my mom, dad, and brothers that taught me to love the intricacies of baseball. That and actually playing the game. Not that it matters, but did Scully ever play?

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Aug 13, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

i dont mind gubi anymore

he seems to have gotten more comfortable. hes very hokie and corny, but hes not out of his mind like physioc and hudler can get

by ihearhowie2.0 on Aug 10, 2008 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Hud and Fizz

They do make mistakes constantly, and they never correct themselves. Does anyone else remember how Bob Starr (I think it was) used to occasionally make a mistake, then say “check that,” and correct himself? Sometimes I get the impression that Fizz wants to correct Hud, or vice vera, but they choose to ignore the errors instead for whatever reason. They just let things fly.

Don’t get me wrong, I love Hud’s enthusiasm. I even named my dog Hudler because he’s a goofy, energetic dog. But Hud can be so aggravating. Especially when the Angels are blowing a game, a bonehead Rex comment just adds fuel to the fire. Other times I feel like he’s treating the viewers like idiots. Paraphrase: “See, to catch a grounder, you gotta bend your knees and get your glove down.” That’s color commentary? We’re not all first time listeners, Rex. Some of us kinda know the game.

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Aug 11, 2008 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

and yet, many people are idiots when it comes to the "basics" of the game

so sometimes, it’s better to elaborate.

you’ve got to remember, some people out there aren’t crazy fans like us that belong to HH and have constant arguments about baseball, players, and the team.
some people are casual fans that need to hear things like that.

you’ve got to appeal to the masses, not the minority. many times (in things like radio/TV), it’s safer to assume that people are stupid and know nothing, rather than assume they know it all. a pompous, know-it-all is a lot more of a turn off than a guy who breaks things way down.

Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.

by howiestheman on Aug 11, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats the guy

Bob Starr would often give the “check that” call. Hud bugs big time. “Thats right” he bugs.

Willie Mays Aikens is FREeeeeeeee

by Angel Aviator on Aug 11, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's my take on the announcers

I “watch” baseball like I’m listening to the radio, I have the TV turned up and I do a bunch of other stuff around the house. I like the Play by Play announcer that tell me what’s going on in the game (this is why I hate ESPN’s Sunday night game and their announcers that seem to have alzheimer and just start rambling about random NY/Boston/Chicago crap) with the color guy telling me what kind of pitch it was or how difficult the play in the field was.

When I hear the situation starting to get tense I come to the TV and watch. I like Rory & Hud because Rory seems like an intelligent fan of baseball who is not afraid to point out the short comings and boast about the areas that we excel in but keeping an even temperment. Hud is Hud, you either like him or you don’t.

With Vin Scully and his monotone delivery I just kinda tune him out and end up missing the game.

by Seik1177 on Aug 12, 2008 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Kind of unfair.

Radio announcers must assume that the listeners cannot see the events unfolding on the field, so they need to add a great deal of verbage to fill out the information gap. Television announcers must assume that the viewers can see what the director is sending them back to their TV screens, so they need to stay out of the way in terms of verbage, and limit their comments to those which provide emphasis. This difference is huge and those raised within the modern media generation have a more natural affinity for the faster, briefer, more impactful, communications styles that come from TV announcing. You are, perhaps unwittingly, treating a baseball broadcast like an MTV countdown.

Francisco Rodriguez: 191 career saves. 2 career Panthers, tied with Hector Carrasco.

by Stirrups on Aug 12, 2008 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fizz on the radio

There is a notable difference in Fizz on the radio, compared to his t.v. braodcast. He does a lot more of “the pitcher wipes his brow as he looks in for the sign…he checks first…” But Hud is even more annoying on the radio. He has more than once screamed uncontrollably into the mic on an Angel homerun, covering up the actual CALL of the play. Very distracting and unprofessional.

I swear, if one more person tells me to "work smarter, not harder"...

by Rally Manatee on Aug 13, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

In reply to Stirrups (Stupid Work Computor won't reply)

I’ve been following the Angels since 1985, so I wouldn’t go as far as saying the I have the MTV Countdown Syndrome, well maybe a touch of it, but that said, my preferred media has always been the radio to listen to most sports, so I’m partial to announcers that describe the plays and allow me to use my imagination to see it (Like a good book).

As far as Scully goes I have heard him on the radio during from the 80’s to now and I stand by what I said above he has a very monotone voice that I find difficult to listen to. I know he’s a great announcer , he’s been around for god know’s how long, he’s just not for me.

by Seik1177 on Aug 13, 2008 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

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