Who do YOU trust to look into YOUR future
by highlandhalo on Sep 5, 2008 12:42 PM PDT
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Ran across a couple political images and I was wondering you really believe can manage. I mean management. Now, we all know that Mike Scioscia is a pretty damn good manager. Do you want him running your country or your team? I do. Please vote in the poll below, and explain your votes in the explanatory box below. Love forever, hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and highland halo and highland halo and highlandhalo. And, just one more time to hit the 75 word limit, love, highlandhalo.
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Making The Case For Mike Scioscia as President
-Experience. Scioscia has successfully managed a multi-million dollar business operation for 9 years, the result of nearly 30 years experience in his field.
-Impact Leadership. When he took over the Angels, they were basically a joke, the least known, least successful major market secondary team in baseball. Now the Angels are perhaps the most professional, best-run organization in the MLB, a model for lifting yourself up by your own bootstraps.
-Class Act. Scioscia preaches against bean-balls and brawling, arguing for clean, competitive campaigns from his team.
-Consistency. Scioscia’s dedication to the fundamental skills he preaches are near-legendary. Never has he wavered in his consistent support of bunting, base-stealing, and situational hitting.
-Communication. As a catcher, Scioscia consistently reached Across the Aisle to the Pitchers despite his designation as a Hitter. As a manager, he has been the crucial link between the upper-echelons and the players, facilitating a broad-spectrum clubhouse community that even reaches out to the fans. Scioscia is also bi-lingual, crossing cultural boundaries without hesitation in the greater interests of the team.
-Toughness. Scioscia went through the wars at Home Plate as a catcher, taking all manner of body blows and foul tips, but never blenched from his support of the team.
-Anti-Corruption. Deeply ingrained personal ethics helped Scioscia make the tough choices to eliminate malcontents in the clubhouse, no matter how outwardly useful or skilled they might be. Such is Scioscia’s commitment to making the Right Choices.
-Connects with Youth. Scioscia’s inspirational work with the young rookies of the club continues to pay dividends to the Angels organization.
-Common Sense. Always makes the obvious moves, like buying plasma TVs from Howards.
In Conclusion, Vote Scioscia—
Because he seems like a decent, intelligent human being!
[place campaign banner here]
~Till the Halo burns out...
by Zu Long on Sep 8, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good points, but there is Scioscia's penchant for cronyism that hold him back.
Hatcher, Gary Matthews Jr., Robb Quinlan, and Jeff Mathis to name a few.
On the contrary, Hatcher's supposed ineffectiveness is nothing more than vicious attack rhetoric by Scioscia's
political opponents, never statistically proven or substantiated.
Gary Matthews Jr. was not a choice he made, but is a decision by others that he has been forced to live with. It is one of Scioscia’s great strengths that he sees the best in people and affords them numerous second chances as conditions allow. When push came to shove however, Scioscia made the correct decision and replaced Gary Matthews Jr. with a superior player.
Robb Quinlan is a backup player and performs that job perfectly well, whatever naysayer propaganda might like to claim.
Jeff Mathis battled it out with Napoli early on for the starting job and lost, only for Napoli to succumb to shoulder problems and fall off the table in terms of production in May. It was only at that point that Mathis assumed primary catching duties. Once Napoli finally returned healthy, he has once again been given the majority of starts. Mathis starts day games played after night games in an attempt to conserve Napoli’s unfortunately low stamina for the postseason run. Once again simply a case demonstrating Scioscia’s commitment to his principles, and his ability to make level-headed decisions.
So we see these accusations of cronyism are nothing but baseless smear attacks.
~Till the Halo burns out...
I offer up Shea Hillenbrand and Steve Finley for your consideration.
Francisco Rodriguez: 201 career saves. 4 career Panthers, almost 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
Shea got DFA'd for uselessness in May, Finley was traded after a single season.
Scioscia’s been handed some tough situations, and hasn’t always had the best people to work with to fix them. Has he complained or bellyached or pointed fingers? Hell no. Scioscia’s a consummate professional who makes do with the pieces he’s given. No wishy-washy optimism or appeals for hope. He makes due with the reality that is, not the reality he’d like to exist. He gives people the chance to fix their mistakes, and if they can’t, then he makes the tough call to let them go, while always taking the responsibility for their performance on himself.
Certainly there have been errors, decisions that are easy to second-guess after the fact. It’s impossible to be perfect, and Scioscia knows that. That’s why you have to know “how to turn the page.” Focusing on one game at a time, while always keeping the larger picture in the back of your mind. That’s the Scioscia way—the AMERICAN way.
~Till the Halo burns out...
Spoken like a modern day spokeshole. Well done.
Of course, a good reporter would ask the question:
“We all know that Scioscia has accomplished a great deal with the players he has had to work with, but most of those have been high-caliber players who delivered over the long term. In the cases of Hillenbrand and Finley, they failed to produce at all during their tenure. Most observers made mention for many, many months of non-productive playing time that these players were demonstrable failures and yet Scioscia kept playing them even after it was long overdue that they needed benching . How do you respond to that?”
Francisco Rodriguez: 201 career saves. 4 career Panthers, almost 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
Yeah, the resemblance is definitely intentional. ^_^
My intention with this is purely comedic. As far as your question:
“Both players were veterans with previous successful records. After an admittedly dismal April, Finley initially justified Scioscia’s confidence with an excellent May, after which he fell off the table until September. It was revealed later that Finley was playing injured, a fact that Scioscia was not aware of. Hillenbrand was an emergency pickup whose playing time diminished once better options emerged, and was DFA’d in mid-June due to lackluster performance and poor attitude. It is worth pointing out that the Angels as a team won their division in both of these years, so however poor their individual contributions may have been, Scioscia was able to lead the team as a unit to victory.”
~Till the Halo burns out...
P.S. - and by "Well done", I meant that as a compliment.
You could get a job immediately on a campaign staff dealing with the press.
Francisco Rodriguez: 201 career saves. 4 career Panthers, almost 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
Yes, well, I walk the streets of the village and hear loud chants questioning Scioscia's leadership and judgement
not from his political opponents but from the many villagers themselves. There must be some truth to this if it is the opinion of so many. They cry, “Blackhole!” and we are doomed to lose the game when the man they have taken to call, Soth, puts up a roster with Mathis, Matthews, and Quinlan on the same day. Too often the villagers have seen their common sense predictions of failure come true.
It was only after sure threats of revolt by the villagers that Soth tossed GMJ form the roster reluctantly for Juan Rivera. This appeased the villagers, but within a fortnight, due to some injuries to other players, Soth quickly re-placed GMJ back in the roster and playing regularly. This is just slight of hand by a shrewd politician, proving Soth had no real intention of replacing him at all.
If Robb Quinlan performs his job so perfectly well, why is he the butt of relentless jokes in every corner of the village to this day? Some villagers suggest that Q is so weak, they have even entertained the idea of stealing his wife!
The villagers, depraved as they are, crave the power potential that Mike Napoli can add in the lineup. Most agree they are equally capable defensively, but even the wives and children of the hard working villagers are tired of watching Mathis’ infield pop ups for outs at bat after at bat. The only way I can explain this is it is kind of like, “It’s the economy stupid.” but in this case it is, “At least he has the ability to get a clutch hit or a homerun stupid.”
If a politician does’nt promise and deliver what the voters want, when they want it, he or she could find themselves watching the inaguration from the couch at home. Emperor Moreno heeded the endless calls for a “Big Bat” power hitter from his loyal subjects and brought the great warrior, Teixiera, to the village filling their hearts with hope for the sacred World Series Ring. The villagers have erected and impressive pedastal in the center of town, layered with gold, to place their marble statue of Emperor Moreno on, and they sit around it sipping the lower priced beer granted to them by him, tell stories of his greatness, and how someday soon, he will bestow upon upon them a long and great dynasty. Long live the Emperor!
I don't think I need to respond to this, which seems mostly composed of specious exaggerations.
I will say that the fact that Scioscia’s opponents speak of Emperors during a campaign for President is representative of the degree to which they are divorced from both reality, and the American People.
~Till the Halo burns out...
You forgot how Scioscia would do on foreign policy, Zu
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Sep 10, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Scioscia’s foreign policy is obvious-
“We can’t worry about things we don’t control. We just have to win our games, and the rest will take care of itself.”
Also, trade is something to pursue if we have pieces missing, but never at a deficit.
~Till the Halo burns out...
Zu would argue that your right foot is really your left foot
Howie Kendrick, the Eric Davis of 2nd basemen...great when he's on the field, IF he's on the field...
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Enjoy it, folks.
John McCain could have used some of Cindy’s plastic surgery.
Barack Obama could have used some of Sarah Palin’s sincerity
If Obama is down by more than 5 points in October, expect Biden to have a “brain tumor emergency” and a quick addition of Hillary to the ticket occurs.
Sorry Rev ...
i wasn’t sure if that was against the rules or not, but too drunk to care. xx
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Sep 5, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
God. I love that name...
…although mostly what she would hunt, shoot, and field dress were moose. That’s right…she would filet Bullwinkle! Damn…she is hot!!!
I'd let her filet my bullwinkle!
Even if she is twice my age!
by TheTypingFiend on Sep 5, 2008 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
She's definitely got something weird going on
I’ll be sick if the Elephants win. I think we are in some definite need of change. Having that said, she doesn’t appear to be of the child eating type.
You are what you type.
also
he would like to eat your heart.
load the spaceship with the rocket fuel... load it with the warriors...
Eat her young?
No, that is more in line with those that favor abortion. She is the polar opposite…and actually practiced what she preached.
How do you know what Sarah Palin's daughter preached that she did not practice?
…and why would you care? Her daughter isn’t running for office?
Sarah Palin, John McCain , the GOP, and the Christian Evangelical wing of the republican party
preach abstinence as the exclusive method of birth control and avoiding unwanted pregnancies. This is their policy, this is what they preach. Bristol’s pregnancy is just an example that abstinence as the exclusive prevention method does not work to prevent these unwanted pregnancies. Statistics and extensive research has proven this. This is what I think TheTypingFiend was referring to.
My post said that Sarah Palin practiced what she preached....
…to the extent that she gave birth, even though she knew the baby had Down’s Syndrome. She could have gone to an abortion clinic (and then been hypocritical) but didn’t. She practiced what she preached.
I don’t know her daughter’s beliefs (and really don’t care to know…it is not my business). How do you know that it is an “unwanted” pregnancy?
I believe the vast majority
Of Americans in this country would choose to have their baby even if they knew he or she would have Down’s Syndrome or some similar genetic problem.
No, I don’t have stats to prove this. Call it “truthiness.” But I’m nearly positive that Palin and the Right are holding her up as this Moral Exception to some calloused, “abortion majority” that in reality just doesn’t exist.
I remember seeing polling once that indicates most Americans are morally opposed to abortion. The controversy is over whether or not that should translate into a legal ban on the practice.
Light Up That Halo!
One would think that Sarah Palin would have greatly preferred that her daughter had
not become pregnant at age 17 and unmarried as she was preparing to run for Vice President of the United States on a party ticket that preaches the mantra, “Abstinence Until Marriage” and champions abstinence education to both male and female youth members. Bristol’s pregnancy flies in the face of all that. So, in this case the pregnancy is probably undesirable at this time more than unwanted. Unwanted is a poor choice of words in this context because it sounds like they may be inclined to throw the baby in a dumpster the minute it is born which is not the case.
The choice of the word "unwanted" was yours, not mine.
My original post above was in response to an offhand comment about how she would “eat her young”. From what I can gather, she appears to be a polar opposite to that view (which again more closely corresponds to one that would destroy the life developing inside of them). Rather than destroy a developing human life afflicted with Down’s Syndrome, she embraced that life and it’s challenges. She also appears to have embraced her daughter’s “undesirable” pregnancy, and the child’s father. More than simply embracing life, she appears to revels in it and cherishes the great gifts that have been bestowed upon her.
That said, I sure as hell would not want to be a moose caught in her cross-hairs.
FOR THE RECORD
Palin has no stated position on birth control pills.
She is in favor of funding abstinence programs instead of sex education programs.
She is anti abortion.
Anyone who brings up her daughter has to say the following “Ken Starr is a great American who saved the integrity of the presidency” …you are either in favor of intrusive investigations about the personal lives of public servants or you are not … otherwise it is political b.s. to bring up the daughter in the age of partisan attacks on sex outside of its effect on public policy.
by Rev Halofan on Sep 6, 2008 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The use and effect of birth control pills generally falls under the heading of most responsible sex education programs.
As well as the use of condums that help prevent the transfer of sexually transmitted diseases as well as preventing pregnancy.
Yep
I think my eighth and tenth grade (private school, one religiously affiliated) sex-ed classes were perfectly reasonable:
1. The best way to prevent unplanned pregnancy and STDs is abstinence.
2. Here’s what might happen if you have unprotected sex.
3. Here’s how to protect yourself (condoms, contraceptives, the pill, other birth control, etc.)
4. (I think the 10th grade one included what to do if you or your partner wound up pregnant)
5. The only 100% protection against STDs and unplanned pregnancy is abstinence.
So they made sure we were well-equipped to make smart choices if we had sex, but the overall message—not doing it in the first place—came across loud and clear.
Light Up That Halo!
I personally lobbied and and helped lead the campaign that ultimately persuaded
the Board of Directors of the Los Angeles Unified School District to distribute condoms in public high schools some eighteen years ago. The alarming increase at that time of AIDS cases and common STD’s among teens made this policy necessary and vital to saving lives. Every time I went to testify to the board I was faced with a legion of well organized Christian Evangelicals that would attempt to shout me down, call me “Devil,” and try to coerce me into a fist fight to get me arrested and thrown out of these meetings. They tried every method they could to prevent me from being successful because of their fear of teens practicing safe sex over their failed method of abstinence only. Just thought I would let you know some background of where I’m coming from, and why this issue is near and dear to me.
If you are married or have a girlriend...
ask her if she would make this kind of statement to you;
“Now honey, I know that you will be gone for only a few days, and I know you will try to be faithful. But…just in case you get the urge…here are some condoms. Be safe!”
My guess is that would not happen as she would expect you to remain faithful. If it DID happen, I think you would take that as an ever so slight indication that it is OK to “cheat”.
I am all in favor of encouraging teens to practice “safe-sex”, but if do not believe this leads to more sexual behavior, you are fooling yourself.
As far as them provoking a fist fight, that is truly disgusting behavior.
My guess is if a person is truly faithful, they will remain faithful.
If a person is not faithful in a relationship, they will do whatever they want, regardless of the availability of contraceptives.
http:// www.ajph.org/cgi/content/abstract/AJPH.2005.068437v1
This is a link to a study done by the University of Washington and published in the Journal of Public health. It studied a group of 4018 sexually active adolescents divided in two groups, those that used condums on sexual debut (first time) and those that did not. The study followed this same group over a period of eight years, from 1994 – 2000.
It was found that the group who did report using condoms were half as likely to test positive for chlamydia or gonorrhea than those that did not use condums. Urine samples were taken to definitively prove this.
The study also found that after 6.8 years the participants that used condoms initially, used condums at their most recent intercourse. Reported lifetime (length of study) numbers of sexual partners between the two groups did not differ.
I beg to differ.
Sarah Palin wishes to use the power and wealth of government to dictate to society at large that the only way to prevent an unwanted outcome is to follow a practice which has a demonstrable countermanding example under her very own roof.
It is perfectly reasonable to bring up the subject of Bristol Palin. Not in any context that focuses on Bristol specifically or exclusively, but certainly in the context of an important debate over public policy wherein Sarah Palin has take a very strong public stand in support of a position that is beyond her ability to effect even within the confines of her own personal experience.
Francisco Rodriguez: 200 career saves. 4 career Panthers, almost 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
by Stirrups on Sep 6, 2008 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know for sure...
..but I believe she wants to use the power and wealth of government to reduce the power and wealth of government and therefore REDUCE its power to dictate anything to anyone.
How do you know its beyond her ability to affect? You would have to know whether or not her daughter made a conscious decision to get pregnant. Do you know whether or not she made this decision? Her daughter may have practiced abstinence for 2-3 years, then decided she wanted to become a mom (with/without her parents knowledge or consent). I have not read anything that confirms one way or the other.
One way or the other, the issue as not raised in the context of a public policy debate. It was raised in terms of rumor/gossip to discredit her mom.
Then you are really going to be disappointed:
As mayor, she campaigned as a “fiscal conservative” then too. But in reality she:
a) inherited a zero debt budget
b) increased spending 33%
c) increased tax revenues 38%
d) reduced progressive property taxes
e) increased regressive sales taxes (including those on food)
f) embroiled the city into financing parks instead of infrastructure, including one that has left the city involved in 7 years of litigation in a money losing public effort hat she sold to voters as a money-making venture.
g) and, after her 6 years were up, left a city of 5,000 people $22 million in debt.
She is no more about reducing government and curbing excessive spending than the fiscal “conservative in name only” that held exclusive power from 2000 to 2006. In fact, her record show her front and center of the recent federal pork distribution clearance sale.
My basic point is that she wants to fund abstinence programs. She doesn’t want to fund those programs with the money out of her OWN pocket, but from those pockets of you and me. And she, at least as well as anyone, has ample first-hand proof that any such spending program is ineffective.
Francisco Rodriguez: 200 career saves. 4 career Panthers, almost 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
Gov. Palin also proclaimed proudly she sold the official airplane on E-bay to save the taxpayers of Alaska money.
In reality, it is reported that she actually listed the airplane three times on E-bay without success, and in the end sold it through a private broker for less than the plane’s worth, which was a net loss of asset for the Alaskan taxpayers.
I am not sure to what statement you refer saying she "sold" the plane on E-bay.
If it was Wednesday night’s speech, you misquoted her. She said “I put it on E-bay”, not that she “Sold it on E-bay”.
Are you referring to another speech or quote? If not, what she siad in her speech was completely true and accurate.
As far as selling it for “less than it was worth”, do you think that was a better idea than maintaining an asset that was no longer in use? My guess is the maintenance, insurance, and other costs would be quite high for an asset of that size (especially in Alaskan winters).
Seriously?
Ever heard of an implication?
Palin and the RNC did not expect voters to say “oh she TRIED to sell something”; they want them to take away “oh, she SOLD it on E-bay, she’s awesome!!!”
A subtle distinction.
Light Up That Halo!
Well seriously I have heard of implications.
I sure wish I had your ability to read the minds of Palin and the RNC to know what they expect voters to say. Where do you acquire ability like that?
This seems to be a really foolish attack;
1) What she said is completely true.
2) The jet was ultimately sold, though not on E-Bay (a claim she didn’t make anyway).
3) She is a VP candidate not the presidential candidate.
Don’t you believe this is obvious to most voters?
Ummm....
No. This is called a political game. Voters tend to take these things at face value—it doesn’t take a psychic to figure out that if Palin and the GOP heavily imply that she sold the plane on Ebay, people will assume she actually did.
Interestingly enough, this type of trick has worked pretty much throughout human political history.
Light Up That Halo!
By all means then, challenge and attack away.
I think you those that attack though will end up looking lie fools. All the proponents of Palin and GOP need to say is “Check my words. They are accurate”. It then looks like a foolish attack. Anyway, this post has taken me away from the reason I came here, which is to share my love of the Angels. With that, I want to thank you for the “Challenge” post. I haven’t responded yet. I relatively new to the site. I am still trying to think of favorite posts. Regardless, thanks for the “Challenge” post…it was a damn good thought.
Aww thanks
If anything, I’m a sucker for nostalgia. I’ve still gotta post a few more of my own memories, once I figure out how to efficiently go through the archives.
Anywho, always good to have baseball…whatever everyone’s differences, there’s always baseball (or name your sport here) and love of team to rally around!
Light Up That Halo!
what about individual sports?
Exceeding expectations is less a matter of luck than possession of certain assets.
by anaheim angels on Sep 7, 2008 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
there are no teams in individual sports
;)
Exceeding expectations is less a matter of luck than possession of certain assets.
by anaheim angels on Sep 8, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, well
I guess political arguments from those fans will never get resolved in some sort of unification!
Light Up That Halo!
Like I wrote above...
…I decided to stop with the serious replies. I come her for the love of the Angels…I am actually heartened that others from various backgrounds share my sentiment fo the Angels.
You posted above in response to the Rev saying that her daughter should be kept out of the debate.
You "begged to differ", in essence saying she is fair game due to failed abstinence only policy. To know it failed, you would need to know whether or not her daughter’s pregnancy was accidental or intentional. You did not provide or cite evidence one way or the other of the daughter’s decision-making process. If you can’t cite evidence one way or the other, it tends to;
1) Reinforce the Rev’s initial point about keeping the daughter ( and by extension other family members) out of these political discussions.
2) Undermines your credibility.
If you can’t cite any evidence, then acknowledge you made an assumption about the daughter’s state of mind that may/may not be proven correct.
What is the source of the figures from when she was mayor of Wasilla? I want to see these documents. I agree they undermine claims of being a fiscal conservative.
Google is a big help here
The financial data is reported here.
I did not say that the daughter was “fair game”, as you claim. I was very careful to add the caveat “Not in any context that focuses on Bristol specifically or exclusively”.
As for “state of mind”, we do know that the father had no intention of siring children at this time (“”http://www.nypost.com/seven/09012008/news/nationalnews/palin_admits_her_17_year_old_daughter_is_127025.htm" >I don’t want kids"). So, at least from his perspective, her pregnancy was not intentional.
But, then, neither of those are the main thrust of my point. In this issue, I am more libertarian in principal. I do not believe that it is the role of the government to sponsor and fund any effort that involves personal sexual relations or choice, no matter what the context. Palin wants to fund those programs in this issue which agree with her own moral and religious positions. I have no problem with her taking her positions. I have a problem with her taking my money to empower her ability to impose those positions on others. And I point to the example right under her nose as to why taking my money for that purpose is wasteful. And her inability to learn that lesson from her own experience is problematic.
Francisco Rodriguez: 200 career saves. 4 career Panthers, almost 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
I am not sure you realize this or not...
…all of the stats you cited are from one letter from one Anne Kilkenny. There are no other corroborating facts or citations. No one else quoted. Nothing! This is all the opinion of one person!!!
These charges may all prove to be correct, but – at this time – have zero credibility.
The “fair game” reference is maybe a matter of semantics. What I meant is that you were therefore free to cite her (not to necessarily make personal attacks).
Beyond that I prefer a government that stays out of my business. Unfortunately, we have gone a long, long way down the road to a nanny state. I don’t see that changing any time soon.
Her letter was published in a reputable news source.
Their own fact checkers should have been expected to corroporate. But, in case you doubt that, you can do your own research here.
I took a quick peek myself, and hte debt claim checks out pretty close. The Debt Administration statement of the City Annual Report just before she took office of Mayor shows zero debt, and the same report in her last year shows $20.6 million.
I can also find pre-VP selection articles that corroborate the litigation debt.
Kilkenny is probably a local gadfly. But if her data were wrong, McCain and Palin would be all over it. And yet they are silent.
Francisco Rodriguez: 200 career saves. 4 career Panthers, almost 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
This was from an opinion piece!
from 2 days ago! The credibility of “facts” in an opinion piece is much lower than for a news story. They data could be accurate, but Kilkenney’s characterization completely inaccurate. You want opinions as facts when they have not yet been corroborated? Bad move…if wrong, it appears to be more panicky attempts to pile on.
But they ARE corroborated!
I just personally corroborated one of them for you myself. I found actual city reports published by Wasilla and picked the ones that would verify her claim and found that they do!
And in my search I found another document, completely sourced, which corroborates Kilkenny’s statements of fact in her opinion piece. AND that document includes many more examples of fiscal irresponsibility.
The facts are out there. You can find them just as easily as I did from Alaskan news sources and Alaskan government sources preceding her selection and nomination, just like I did. But then, you have to want it. If you ever choose, Google will serve you too.
Francisco Rodriguez: 200 career saves. 4 career Panthers, almost 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
Not to mention
Francisco Rodriguez: 200 career saves. 4 career Panthers, almost 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
Your premise, though...
Your premise is that her experience is the only thing we can trust and the inference is that she has had limited experience in uncomplicated circumstances (inheriting no deficit, etc.)
The strongest argument for Palin is the character issue, that she is “real” and that the character will trump "experience because perhaps inexperience will bring new, untried solutions.
I am voting for Obama but I interject into political discourse with reminders for people to get real. Your magnification and detail-picking over Palin’s inexperience STRENGTHENS her case.
Well, yes, I COULD pick on her inexperience.
And, yes, that WOULD play into her hands with respect to the mindset of her populist appeal.
But in this instance, my premise was that her actual experience (as mayor) resulted in real economic damage, which was in explicit conflict with sothball’s hopes and expectations.
Francisco Rodriguez: 201 career saves. 4 career Panthers, almost 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
Sarah Palin and the McCain campaign put out a NATIONAL PRESS RELEASE
announcing her seventeen year old daughter was pregnant and unmarried. How do they expect the national press NOT to cover this story resulting in everyone talking about it and bringing it up?
This latest
announcement was made to (supposedly) end speculation that Sarah’s youngest child was in fact her’s and not a previous Bristol pregnancy.
Lamest poster of all-time.
by ineptituderunsamok on Sep 15, 2008 5:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I tried to split my vote between HH and Mayhem, but couldn't...
…I think you need to change the post to manager and vice-manager (or manager of vices).
Anyway, the heading asks who I trust to look into my future. So… I have to go with this guy…
Mayhem is lagging in the polls.
Dare he buy some board space attacking the current vote leaders?
Or is he finished?
Mayhem is voting for himself and his low hanging junk
I want a recall. Definitely hanging chads
Don't call me Desmond
If i'm elected I promise to show those fat cats in DC what's up.
I don’t know what that means, but that’s what I’m supposed to say, since i’m running for an office.
Whatever dude.
Fine. How about "Vote for me and I promise to make taking upskirt photos of girls while sitting in pubs legal and also culturally accepted."
Whatever dude.
by Mayheminthehood on Sep 5, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
can you make it so that...
During Angels home telecasts the game goes to a shot of Brooke whenever there is a lull in the action? That would be sweet!
If he was president he could do that
Right now obama and scioscia are kicking mayhem’s ass
Don't call me Desmond
Hopefully not for long...
although if this guy can keep this charade up all the way to the White House I will be impressed. Pretty soon he’s gonna have to stop giving speeches and show the rest of you who he really is.
I’m not a huge fan of McCain, but he’s the guy for those of you looking for change. Obama is basically Franklin Pierce without the racism, all hype and no chance to succeed.
wah
there’s a poll above in which you can vote for Mike Scioscia. I suggest you do so now.
Don't call me Desmond
Actually
Franklin Pierce was a drop-down, all-day-every-day alcoholic. Sad story. A great great grad-uncle of Barbara Bush too. Weird.
was he really?
historian, art critic, Uber Angels Fan, and weatherman! I did not know that about Franklin Pierce and now I am enlightened.
Don't call me Desmond
Meh, politics.
I relish my newfound apathy.
If a president does stupid shit, Congress is supposed to prevent it, but since they also suck, and the idiot in the White House is responsible for the Supreme Court, we’re screwed anyway.
I’ll vote once the government can no longer make asinine unilateral decisions.
…in other words, I’m not voting, and I’ll care once I see a change to our bullshit two party system.
Love,
Marcus
http://inplaynoouts.blogspot.com/ - A blog about teams I like, written by me.
I'll probably vote...I guess. But i'm pretty much with you. I am not a conspiracy dude but I just have a feeling the last two elections weren't on the up and up.
Kinda made me jaded, but at the same time, it can get me out of work for 2-3 hours if played right.
Whatever dude.
by Mayheminthehood on Sep 5, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pleased to see Scioscia polling higher than McCain
Democracy at its finest
Don't call me Desmond
if the Angels win the series, then it's Scioscia as a write-in
if they don’t, then i predict Arte will sell the Angels and become the second ex-club owner in a row to become President of the U.S.
What????
Bush in a shady deal? Never! …
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Sep 10, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey! Anybody see that movie "Dave" w/ Kevin Klein?
Now THAT’S the kind of Pres we need…..Honest & gets rid of all the “hangers on” to balance the Budget! HA!
now that was a great catch and all (and his face plant catch was even better)...
…but better than a damn fine looking woman with curves…in all the right places?
You need help.
im doing my best to stay out of this, as I tend to get.... "passionate" about politics
McCain/Palin is the answer here. they actually have this country’s best interest in mind, not their own agenda.
the “change” Obama/Biden want would be the worst thing to happen to this country… you think things are bad now? just wait until we’re pumping all kinds of money into black-hole social programs that too nothing but waste our time and money.
that is all i’m going to say.
Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.
Haha, looks like you did a pretty poor job staying out of it
Scioscia/Renockie ’08!
by TheTypingFiend on Sep 5, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
no no, i stayed out of it for the most part
but added in my two cents, and that’s where I’m going to leave it.
although, i’d be cool with this
Mike Scioscia: He provides to unlike method of your team member.
To quote the Rev, ie, the gaffer ...
Our one and only political FanPost of the year! Enjoy it, folks.
Don't call me Desmond
I think you meant
To flip those parties around, given the past eight years.
And I’m done! I’m staying out of it until 11/5.
Light Up That Halo!
McCain/Palin! For real change!
Bwahahahahahahahaaa!!!!
that is all i’m going to say.
by ReggieBullits on Sep 6, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol, it looks like that guy is jealous
Exceeding expectations is less a matter of luck than possession of certain assets.
by anaheim angels on Sep 7, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
I’d rather we pump “all kinds of money” into social programs than pump all kinds of money into black-hole wars that claim 100,000 lives and were started based on chinese-menu selection of evidence.
Citing the Democrats as the government-expanding, tax-and-spend, big-brother types should have died some time in the last 8 years when a Republican president put our country into record debt by repeatedly slashing taxes, while nonetheless doing unparalleled deficit spending. Republicans claiming to be the party of fiscal conservatism are as dead as Elvis Presley.
And for a party that prides itself on ‘smaller government’ and ‘keeping the government out of public life’ as their convention REPEATEDLY stated? Republicans want laws to ban abortion, a constitutional amendment (yes, using the government) to ban flag burning AND gay marriage, and have expanded the power of the executive branch to levels unseen in our history. They support the power of the federal government to tap any phone for any reason (and grant immunity to phone companies to do so), without warrants. They support the PATRIOT ACT, which greatly expands the power of the government to detain any person for an indefinite period of time until evidence surfaces capable of warranting an actual charge being filed (see: the Al-Jazeera cameraman recently released as an example of the obvious failures of this), they support secret trials to convict these individuals in military tribunals, and the right to not have to present any of these individuals before a judge to hear the charges against them. They support deficit spending to fund a $3 trillion war.
And this is the party of SMALLER government?
Republicans are small-government when it serves their wallets. They don’t want anyone to touch their bank accounts. But the second the government can be used to push a social agenda that they want the country to follow, they’re more than willing to embrace it and manipulate it. If you want TRUE non-governmental interference, try libertarianism. Because the social agenda of the Republican party is to use the government as their instrument of forcing social morality on the people of the country…a one-size-fits-all code for the American lifestyle that they approve of, and therefore wish to force the remainder of us to adhere to. It’s called bullshit.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 7, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
panthered
I dont understand the Republicans campaigning as if they are responsible for none of this. Oh wait its the abysmally and historically low approval ratings. Insiders campaigning as outsiders….hilarious.
The fiscal conservatives are a dying breed. Most people favor increased government spending (or they’re “tricked” into it like “helping the poor” or “insurance for kids”). But at the same time they dont want to pay taxes or strongly disapprove of any kind of tax increase.
But I want to say the days of American small-government are over my friend.
You are going to do well in life, my son
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Sep 12, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
None at all
Completely honest assessment.
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Sep 16, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Lets go obama
though scioscia would not bebad
better than mccain
My curse on the angels: I have been to 3 of his 5 blown saves, I was at the no-hitter for weaver, and I was there when Maicer had a season ending injury.
I am one LUCKY fan
by princeton11loveshalos on Sep 5, 2008 10:39 PM PDT reply actions
Not sure about Sosh for Prez.
His style would have him put out a decent cabinet to deal with the crisis in the mid-east, followed by another strong cabinet for contending with the sudden rise of Russia.
But then, when he has assured himself of taking two out of three, he reshuffles his lineup and puts forward his favored ancient veterans Bob Dole and Robert Byrd, and the proven incompetents of Alberto Gonzalez, Paul Wolfowotz and Donal Rumsfeld, and sends them out to waste away the getaway match against global warming.
Francisco Rodriguez: 200 career saves. 4 career Panthers, almost 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
by Stirrups on Sep 6, 2008 12:05 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
really excited
First of all please respect you fellow HH’ers, name calling is where this stuff always goes downhill. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and honestly none of us KNOW who would be a better choice.
Anyway, I have been a McCain fan for a long, long time. (My real name is only one letter off from our future prez too.) Dude picks his position and then tries like hell to get it done, regardless of who doesn’t agree. He learns from his mistakes too. Plus when he picked Palin and then I got to see her speak, I got goosebumps. I’m not some hardcore right winger either, I usually vote libertarian or whoever is in favor of legalizing weed (same thing).
Your last name is Hucklabee?
Francisco Rodriguez: 200 career saves. 4 career Panthers, almost 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
But do you
KNOW what his position is? Truly? I.e., are you talking about his “maverick” image, or his actual beliefs?
I’m not passing judgment either way. Just sayin’—I was mighty impressed by McCain for a while, too, until I started looking deeper and saw how he didn’t actually take the positions I thought he did…just sayin’. (As a completely unrelated aside, yay mattwelch’s book!)
Light Up That Halo!
so
you want to vote for people who will pack the supreme court will nutjobs who think that women are second-class humans, who don’t haver the right to control their bodies even if they get raped? Sorry you got pregnant there, hon; you should have thought of that before you decided to have a uterus.
im conservative...
i know, big suprise, since i’m from nd.
"Life is a luminous halo, a semi-transparent envelope surrounding us from the beginning of consciousness to the end."
I thought last night’s The Daily Show’s bit on McCain was amazingly sharp and bombarding. [Hmm. wonder who I’m supporting…]
Well damn, the whole episode is worth watching. If you’ve got 23 minutes to burn, I’d suggest taking a look [here]
Also it was kind of surprising seeing that McCain was one of the most recurring guests in Daily Show history… Guessin’ that Stewart must’ve become really disappointed in what McCain has become…
== Resident Point Tallier ==
The Daily Show
actually gave me some semblance of respect for McCain, especially after the 2000 primary nonsense. It really disappointing to see the direction of his campaign as simply another fear-mongering Republican…really disappointing actually. Thats why I love this piece. Maybe Jon Stewart can knock some sense back into McCain? Get him to stick to that independent edge that he always profusely professed (despite his staunchly conservative voting record).
I’m fairly liberal, but I would have voted for the McCain that was on the Daily Show. I dont know who this guy running now named McCain is.
I would have, too
In fact, I seriously considered McCain until about six months ago (this was when it was like HRC was going to wind up on the ticket)—then I realized the McCain I fell in love with died long ago, replaced by this parody of a man, a shell of his former virtues.
No more McSame!
Light Up That Halo!
Fuel to the fire
Are SABR-minded people more likely to be Democrat or Republican?
Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!
Probably not related.
There’re going to be statistically obsessed in both parties, and those that are emotionally oriented in both parties.
I’d say the correlation factor would be near 0% to aligning people to parties.
by shiftyeyedgoat on Sep 7, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You could try posting a poll at Lookout Landing.......
But once they spot you are an Angels fan, they will delete it after about two minutes because fanposts by Angels fans are usually unwelcomed.
by 44FAN on Sep 7, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also, why is it that people care so much about "change"?
We saw this past 8 years what an aggressive agenda will do in Washington — stall and make your base unhappy (see Democrats since 2006) or push through trifling low-level concerns that are bipartisan affairs with no real impact on the country (see Republicans in Congress prior to 2006).
My sister, now a law student, worked in DC for four years and came to one conclusion: The best part about politics is that NOTHING GETS DONE or GETS DONE SLOWLY.
Why, you might ask? The country doesn’t need radically changing directions every election cycle simply due to the willowy demand of unhappy people in their various capacities to be unhappy. The best course is to keep change minimal and maintain status quo with the least rippling effect changes.
All in all, we’re all screwed this upcoming election. McCain is an absolutely abysmal candidate — akin to John Kerry in 2004, taking the vote for people who just hate the other guy. Obama is a wispy nothing of a man whose greatest feat in his professional career thus far has been to convince an entire base of people to vote for him on a platform based on one word: change.
I’m personally either going to throw my ballot in the toilet by voting 3rd party, or just physically throw my ballot in the toilet.
I have an absentee ballot
have since I was 18.
That is much more easily discarded than Diebold machines.
by shiftyeyedgoat on Sep 7, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
After a few beers, though, I'll join the fray...
ALFRED E. NEUMAN FOR PRESIDENT!!!
by Downing Rules on Sep 10, 2008 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought there were no politics at HH............
Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.
Kobe tell me how my ass tastes
That's the Ticket!
Apollo Creed / Shaft
Laverne / Shirley
Ted Baxter / Less Nessman
The Fonz / Dr. Johnny Fever
The two chicks from ABBA
Skipper / Gilligan
J.J. / Rerun
Shaggy / Scooby
*caveat: as they were in their prime
Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!
That is just too funny.
They copied the Brady Bunch boxes for the opening.
This video is even funnier. What the hell is with the cape? On the other hand, blondie looks pretty good in the red hot pants and…knee pads?
Someone will be singing this tune after the election!
I don't know what's scarier; those clothes or that guitar
Speaking of Brady Bunch, that’s one more for the Ticket.
Mr. Brady / Mr. Drummond
Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!
by Fan Since 1981 on Sep 8, 2008 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Woah, dont you know Mr. Brady cant run for at least another 6-8 months
He just had a date with Mr. Scalpel and hes out for the season ;)
Exceeding expectations is less a matter of luck than possession of certain assets.
by anaheim angels on Sep 8, 2008 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Pete is Phil's VP...
sorry, Mr Drummond was way too elite. Much more so than any Brady could ever imagine.
by Downing Rules on Sep 10, 2008 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Just curious
Since there is a politics thread does that mean I can ignore the F bomb rule and chuck them out whenever I want?
Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.
Kobe tell me how my ass tastes
Fuck an A!
Seattle I would like to thank you for sucking. It allows me to get back to my roots: Hating Fremont.
Kobe tell me how my ass tastes
Fuck yea!
P.s. Mccain is like the angels sorta as in he got out to a big lead in the primaries and then sorta cruised along whereas obama is sorta like the rays, coming from far behind to suprise everyone and just manage to nab the nomination
This is in no way related to my affiliation, just a random observance. I am not old enough to vote, although if i could, id most likely vote obama. But if mayhem were running with Highland halo as his vp, i would vote for them
***Mayhem*** 08!
***Highland***
Exceeding expectations is less a matter of luck than possession of certain assets.
by anaheim angels on Sep 9, 2008 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Message to mayhem: Dude we better get our campaign organised
Apparently Mayhem/Highlandhalo might be on a few write-in ballots. Shit, dude, I forgot all about the platform and everything like that. But that’s OK, since you’ll be the prez, I won’t have to worry about it til you stop a bullet.
Wouldn’t want that to happen, mate. Happy to be veep.
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Sep 10, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not old enough to vote
but I’m liking Obama. I go to the high school he graduated from in Hawaii, so there’s a sense of pride for most people on campus.
Zu Long makes a very good case for Sosh, though! :)
Hud: "Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in"
by HawaiiHaloFan35 on Sep 10, 2008 1:32 AM PDT reply actions
GMJ supports Palin
Because he wants to ensure HE is not aborted.
LA Angels/Baseball. Can we stick to that topic?
by hauldog on Sep 10, 2008 9:34 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
You really want to vote for these guys?
Whatever dude.
by Mayheminthehood on Sep 11, 2008 1:13 PM PDT reply actions
That doesn't makes sense, now that I think about it.
God = “higher pay grade”
Palin = direct messages from God
Republican base = “Palin is one of us”
you = Republican base
Therefore, you ARE the “higher pay grade”!
Francisco Rodriguez: 202 career saves. 4 career Panthers, almost 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
Oh sure, try to dazzle with some kind of fancy-pants logic...or something. Whatever.
I am putting this computer down right now to go cling to my gun…
Gun? Singular?
Soth…shameful. Come on…
Francisco Rodriguez: 203 career saves. 4 career Panthers, 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
Crap...I thought I could slide that one past you but nooooooooooooooo...
I am going to try the "Mr. Fancy-Pants" logic. Here goes;
Bush plus Republican Congress=Too Much Spending
(Bush plus Democratic Congress=Too Much Spending) x 2
[(Obama plus Democratic Congress= Too Much Spending) x ???]=California?
California = Arnold
Arnold = 1 Republican
Therefore:
1 Republican = [(Obama plus Democratic Congress= Too Much Spending) x ???]
Ergo:
McCain + Palin = 2 Republicans
2 Republicans = [(Obama plus Democratic Congress= Too Much Spending) x ???] X 2
[(Obama plus Democratic Congress= Too Much Spending) x ???] X2 > Obama
So, Obama is your very best economic choice.
Francisco Rodriguez: 203 career saves. 4 career Panthers, 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
I guess we call this Democratic math.
It always gives the answer you want. I think this is what our legislature has used for the past 9 years…
Besides, Ahnold is only 1/2 Republican….
Higher Pay Grade=More $$$
More$$$=More Work
Less Work=Less $$$
More time on Halo Heaven=Less work
Therefore, more time on Halo Heaven=Less$$$…
I need to get back to work!!!
For the record, I am registered Republican.
Born and raised by a banker in the heart of OC. More what is called a “paleocon” in today’s vernacular. Goldwater/Reagan style. Anti-W.
So I lose regardless of what happens. That is why all I have left is to make fun of both sides…
Francisco Rodriguez: 203 career saves. 4 career Panthers, 1/2 as awesome as GMJ.
Highland-Mayhem ticket
This might change some of you people’s minds.
Myself and mayheminthehood have joined forces as a write-in ticket. Mayhem was going to run for president but he’s too young, so I have to run for prez. Mayhem’s the veep.
We’re the Halocrat Party and we smell nicely of Orange …
Don't call me Desmond
Our first campaign sticker
Put this on your bumper and we’re bound to win … I think. Just want you want, huh? A decisive president.
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Sep 12, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I put a g-string on a lamb once...
Whatever dude.
by Mayheminthehood on Sep 12, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've fallen over drunk a few times ...
Just like the current president. And I’ve been on the receiving end of some female attention in my (erm) private area, just like the president before him.
Very presidential. If I’m elected, I promise to uphold these grand traditions of the Oval Office to the fullest.
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Sep 12, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Sweet ...
Is that going to be my pres-mobile?
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Sep 15, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice but...
<PEDANTIC>
Isn’t Highland a non-citizen? And if Mayhem’s too young to be prez, he’s also too young to be VP.
</PEDANTIC>
Angels fan since '67
Highland is a US citizen, born and bred in Orange, California ...
Living in London though, currently with an English future First Lady, mrs highlandhalo. And I’m old enough to qualify for the job.
Not sure about the VP age rule, or whether an American who resides abroad can be president. But what the hell, we’ll get around those little rules some how, look what Bush did in 2000. We’ll just fake mayhem’s birth certificate and do a reverse Ervin Santana and make sure he’s at least 35 by the time of the inauguration.
Pedantry much appreciated! :) Thank you for your support.
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Sep 12, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
Anyone not constitutionally qualified to be President may not be in the presidential line of succession (this is what debunks those rumors you saw in January or February about how Hillary would make Bill her running mate and then resign upon being elected—not actually possible).
So theoretically Mayhem doesn’t qualify to be VP, either, or in your Cabinet. But hey, who knows in this day and age?
Light Up That Halo!
I think i'll just go the more politically traditional route and be the guy behind the scenes pulling all the strings.
Whatever dude.
by Mayheminthehood on Sep 12, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
ahh the puppet master
Exceeding expectations is less a matter of luck than possession of certain assets.
by anaheim angels on Sep 12, 2008 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That's cool with me
Less work for me … I’m down with that.
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Sep 13, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Well if Mayhem isn't qualified to be VP ...
What are we going to do with all those bumper stickers? That cost the campaign £3.50 in a London pub while some guy Photoshopped the bumper stickers.
We’re trying to cut spending, not raise it. I suggest we just find a loophole for Mayhem, though not sure if his low-hanging junk will fit through said loophole.
Scottnak could just doctor his birth certificate in Photoshop or something, change one of two digits. I think we might have to fill out a couple of forms or some such too, although those shouldn’t be too complicated. :)
Those bills from the Senate won’t be any problem either. Halocrats roll on!
(This email was paid for by the highlandhalo-mayheminthehood 2008 campaign)
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Sep 13, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I want to see that picture in the Halo Heaven Calendar.
Make sure to tell that to whatever barmaid you end up shagging in Scotland
I'm still wearing my suit cuz I had a meeting today
But I forgot my Angels cap. So I’m waiting for another photo opp to arise so I can look properly presidential.
Don't call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Sep 12, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
A fascinating read on why this entire thread is worthless.
In short, when an ideological liberal is presented with facts which refute their position, they tend to change their mind. But when an ideological conservative is presented with facts which refute their position, they believe their position even more strongly.
I always thought that I was an ideological conservative. Since I remain open-minded, clearly I fail.
The news article is here.
A chat with one of the research scientists is here.
And the actual research paper is here.
Francisco Rodriguez: 2006 to Present: 145 saves. 5 Panthers. As fabulous as Pride, Romero, Gregg, Budde and Dino Ebel combined.
There you go again Stirrups. :)
This thread is far from worthless. I agree with the studies and findings you cited in your comment, although it is the oldest news in American political discourse, so I am not all that fascinated by it. These articles cover the “what” and “when” of how conservatives and liberals decide an issue, but what I would find more fascinating is the “why” they think the way they do. That to me would be the next question and grounds for a great dicussion. I realize the “why” factor was’nt the purpose of the studies you linked to.
I would say this thread has been very anemic in political content and participation, but a political discussion on a neutral site like a sports blog has a great deal of value. The unique thing about it is the possibility of reaching the folks that identify as neutral, independent, or open minded. To have a civil and meaningful political debate between opposing sides and give a convincing common sense argument for your side has the chance of swaying their vote in your favor. It is widely reported this election will be very close and most likely decided by the independents in the middle. I avoid blogging on left wing sites because it is preaching to the choir and, as you showed above, it is a waste of time going on conservative blogs because they are so firmly entrenched in their beliefs. But if you find a site like this that allows political discussion from time to time you have a chance of making a difference by reaching some of the undecided independent folks.
Yes, the "why" is the compelling next question. But there is another.
If the study is really true, then why isn’t EVERYBODY an ideological conservative? Think about it.
Technically, this is not old news at all. You may have first-hand experience with this effect (I certainly do!), but it is a rather compelling new understanding of human behavior. One wonders if it translates to other cultures and other political systems?
And, the point about the thread being worthless was made as a joke based on irony, considering the meaning behind the data I was posting.
Francisco Rodriguez: 2006 to Present: 145 saves. 5 Panthers. As fabulous as Pride, Romero, Gregg, Budde and Dino Ebel combined.
Hey Rev. . .
Remind me again why you don’t allow political threads?
*(On a side note, I find it very interesting that people talk about Palin way more than they talk about McCain. You would think this election is Palin vs. Obama. I’m not sayin . . , I’m just sayin.)
The Palin Humor Story for yesterday
was that she slipped and proclaimed that this would be HER Administration (instead of McCain’s). So, even SHE is focusing more on herself than on McCain.
Francisco Rodriguez: 2006 to Present: 146 saves. 5 Panthers. As fabulous as Pride, Romero, Gregg, Budde and Dino Ebel combined.
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