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The (real) Angels/Yankees Series Breakdown

Because the Yankee Red Sox fan's analysis is just so asinine, I had to rebut him, point by point. This is not comprehensive, nor is it (entirely) based on statistical fact; however, it is grounded in some semblance of reality, unlike that crazy Yanks fan. Read on for it.

Star-divide

As mariangaborik's post is either wrong or misguided on many levels, I am countering his argument that the Yankees win in 6. Truthfully, only in his perspective has he majorly failed. A common trait of a die-hard Yankee fan blind to the teams not spending nearly a quarter-billion every year.

Offense:
The Angels and Yankees are relatively equal in terms of offensive might; however, the offensive prowess is accomplished in dramatically different ways. The Angels start with good baserunning skills, smart 1st to 3rd, small ball, and the potent hitter placed strategically throughout the lineup. Not to mention having unfathomably clutch-factors with RISP. The Yankees, on the other hand, play for the longball and almost exclusively so. Since they play in a park little bigger than most little-league infields, they can accomplish this feat without much struggle whilst at home.

  • Catching: Napoli/Mathis vs. Posada/Molina. Don't forget that the Angels catching platoon has yielded fair success compared to many catchers not named Joe Mauer: during the regular season, they combined for 154 hits, 84 RBI, 25 HR, and 86 R with 5 SB just to top it off. Compared to Posada/Molina's combination of 139H, 23HR, 91 RBI, 70 R with just 1 SB between them. Posada is the best hitter of the 4, but he's also given the most playing time and even then, barely edges Napoli for HR and power. I'd say it's close to a wash, but given Napoli and Mathis are a combined 17 years younger than the platoon for the Yanks, whose knees do you think will be more forgiving in the long month of October?  mini-ad: neutral, with shades of the Halo.
  • First: Mark Teixeira is a veritable nightmare to pitchers. He hits long, sits on bad balls, and is not afraid to swing 3-0. Then  there is Kendry Morales, who has consistently performed this season given regular playing time. The two were neck-and-neck for stats in late August until September saw KMo fall into a mini slump for three weeks where Tex continued his offensive campaign against the arms and psyche's of pitchers everywhere. mini-ad: Yanks, but Kendry is nothing to laugh at.
  • Second: Robinson Cano hits it far and hits it a lot, but so do Howie Kendrick and Maicer Izturis when combined. Cano hit .320 to HK/Iztu's high .290s, but the latter had more hits and just two less home runs. mini-ad: Yanks, but Cano's there for his bat.
  • Short: Derek Jeter has had a revival of sorts with his bat, leading the Yanks' best record with a campaign for a potential MVP. He's been nothing if not consistent and deadly at the plate hitting for high average. However, his downfall is his lack of XBH. He's a spray line-drive hitter who has injected some power into his bat because of his setting and is the first to line up to thank the contractors of Yankee stadium for their short porches. Aybar on the other hand, lives to stretch his singles into more, forcing errors, running like madness on the basepaths, and still hits for a hell of an average and clutchness. Will he use this in his bid to overtake Mr. November?  mini-ad: Yanks, but watch Aybar outperform Jeets when he's at the A.
  • Third: A-Rod. Either you're on board with him or you're not. He seems to have broken his spell of anti-clutchness in the playoffs, which could spell trouble for Angels pitchers. Comparing him to Figgy isn't even fair. The two are directly antithetical in how they produce runs, but Figgy gives the psychological breakdowns to pitchers on the mound. We'll see if the intangibles can match up to ARod's power.  mini-AD: Yanks.
  • OF: Left: Damon vs. Rivera: A fairly equal match-up with strikingly similar numbers, with one caveat: Rivera is better in all categories. mini-ad: Angels
    Right: Abreu vs. Swisher: Swisher's pretty much all or nothing, as he's a .250 hitter with a lot of XBH and power stats, but Abreu is no slouch and was flirting with .300 this year on top of 15 HR, 103 RBIs and 96R scored. Bet you miss this guy, huh, Yankee fans? mini-ad: Angels.
    Center: Torii Hunter vs. Miguel Cabrera. If Torii weren't playing hurt (still), this wouldn't even be a discussion. Hunter bests Cabrera in nearly every stat. However, Hunter is not quite as powerful as he was in May, but he's still able to hit long. He jacked a 3 run shot that put the Angels ahead for good and effectively started the tears in the curse of Donnie Moore on the road to sweeping Boston. Probably best not to mess with a man on a mission. mini-ad: Angels

Advantage: Yanks @ Yanks
slight edge to Angels @ Angels

Benches
Benches, yes, we are deeper, younger, faster, and more prepared for injury and replacement. The Yankees are old, getting older, and require key players to be healthy for their style of game to continue.
Advantage: Angels

Defense:

  • Catching: Again, both catchers on the Angels do throw like inept women: Jeff Mathis way too high, and Mike Napoli way too low. Jorge Posada is lucky if his throws make it back to the pitcher, while Jose Molina, touted for his defense and game-calling, hasn’t had nearly as much success at throwing would-be runners out as you might think. mini-ad: neutral
  • First: Mark Teixeira is better than Kendry Morales, though KMo is significantly better this season than last and is better now than the beginning of the season. You can’t disregard Teix’s ability to get to the ball and his lightning-quick reflexes. mini-ad: Yanks, but barely, and the gap is decreasing.
  • Second: Robinson Cano is garbage; Howie Kendrick and Maicer Izturis are not. mini-ad: Angels
  • Short: Derek Jeter is crud in terms of talent, but the guy does have some weird 6th sense, it’s almost ridiculous. He’s always in the right place at the right time. Aybar, conversely, has all the talent of a premier shortstop such that he's garnered the personal attention of the owner, Arte Moreno. However, he won't match up in the post-season experience that Jeter has had throughout his career of performing like a champion, despite his smug bubble-gum smirks. mini-ad: Angels, but watch for Jeter to perform.
  • Third: Chone Figgins is a fantastic 3b. Somehow. But Alex Rodriguez still has flashes of his former defensive brilliance. mini-AD: Angels, but barely, and not for lack of talent.
  • OF: The Angels are just so, so superior in every way:
    Left: Juan Rivera >>> Johnny Damon in terms of range and especially arm strength. Watch him pull home-runs back into the yard when he's got a beat on the ball.
    Center: Torii Hunter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melky Cabrera in every measure of human worth,
    Right: ... and who the heck is in right for the Yanks…? anyone? Does anyone even play over there? Oh, that's right. It's Nick Swisher. The twice abandoned former White Sox/A's surfer outfielder with a perennial weight problem. The comparison doesn’t particularly matter because Bobby Abreu is solid enough "so that it doesn’t matter", but given Bobby has a gold glove and Mr. Swisher does not, we'll go with him.
    Ad
    : Angels, by miles. Literal miles. I'd like to see the Yankee outfield run sprints and not wheeze the whole way.

Stadiums:
Can the Yanks even fill their brand-new, one billion dollar stadium? No one can even afford to get in without mortgaging their townhouses or selling bums to the city. But there are two words for the advantage of the Angels at home. Words that strike such terror into the hearts of opposition everywhere, that they only dare be uttered during the playoffs: Thunder. Sticks.
Boom.
Ad: Angels.

Baserunning:
This is exceedingly in the Angels’ favor, but not for the reason of stolen bases alone. Sure, the Angels do that exceptionally well, but the Yanks averaged around the same amount of net stolen bases/game. The real advantage comes in the gutsiness of the runners going first to third, and all small ball moves, executed with machine-like precision. Do the Yankees have anyone who can consistently perform a bunt, and beyond that, anyone who could even make it to second on a bunt?
Advantage: Angels

Team Pitching:
The Yankees have the clear bank-roll edge, but outside of C.C. Sabathia, 1/2 of A.J. Burnett, the occasional stellar gem of Andy Pettitte, and MoRiv, who do the Yanks have that can perform on the big stage?
The Angels have John Lackey, who is coming off of a 7.1 IP shutout effort against the tough Red Sox offense and is pitching better than his already good 11-8, 3.83ERA, 139K injury-shortened season would indicate. Next is Jered Weaver, who has something to prove, and you’re seeing it on the mound now from the 16 game winner. Scott Kazmir is, indeed, a wild-card, but he can be. Given the Angels have starters Ervin Santana, Joe Saunders, and long relief/spot-starters Darren Oliver, and Matt Palmer (a veritable 11 game winner) all pitching out of the ‘pen, they have depth beyond the Yank’s wildest dreams. Who are you going to put up against it, the innings-limited Joba Chamberlain? The talent-limited Chien-Ming Wang? Good luck, there, hoss.
Ad: Angels, ever so slightly.

Closers:
Mariano Rivera is better in every statistical category, but Brian Fuentes has more saves, and has been in a World Series more recently than Mr. Sandman… something to think about there combined with all of the knowledge above.
Ad: Yanks

Managers:
If Scioscia doesn’t receive Manager of the Year for this season of scotch-taping together a 97-win team out of a despair-ridden clubhouse wrought with anguish over the death of a fallen comrade, having 4 SP on the DL on opening day, losing our premiere closer and 8th inning setup man, and doing without Vlad AND Torii for 6 weeks at the same time, there is no justice in the world. Meanwhile, what has Girardi done? He couldn’t even coach a 200mil team to the POST-SEASON last year. Now he has even better players, 8 of whom are making $20million or more per year, and he’s got them to the championships. Congratulations, you did what your organization paid a quarter-billion dollars to do. Ku-friggin'-dos.
Also, Scioscia was a better catcher as a rookie than Girardi ever was in the history of any time. Tell me who YOU’D rather run into as he’s blocking the plate.
Advantage: Scioscia and his Angels.

History:
Angels are the dominating team with respect to history, year-in and year-out, during the season, in the post-season, at home or away. The Yankees just have never matched up. Then again, the Angels hadn't matched to the Red Sox for 23 years... look how that turned out this season.
Ad: Angels, but it's probably irrelevant given the changing faces of the Yanks

Well, that’s about it. Let me know what you think, and maybe I can amend my post with your thoughts.

Oh, and my prediction! As largely irrelevant as it is, I guess I have to pick something, but I'm just unable to commit to a number. So I'll say Angels in 1 because it's going to be such a one-sided beating, the Angels won't even have to show up for games 2, 3 and 4 to win the series.

This Fan-Post is authored by an independent fan. Tell us what you think and how you feel.

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I still cannot disagree more on Jeter's Defense

Aybar wins by miles.

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on Oct 11, 2009 11:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Angels in Inning 4 of Game 1

F the Yanks

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on Oct 11, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOAT:

I made some minor edits in order to feature this on our YAHOO partnership – go to the Angels team page on Yahoo Spotrts and your article should soon be listed there for mass link-in consumption. Thanks!

by Rev Halofan on Oct 11, 2009 11:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Noted.

I didn’t mean to drop the F-bomb so many times in original intention, but just thinking about New York gets me… testy.

Anyway, feel free to edit where need be.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Oct 11, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couple disagreements

I think the Yankees lineup has a decent edge over the Angels. Their top end is better, and their depth is just as good.

I’m encouraged by the bullpen’s performance against the Sox (with the possible exception of Jepsen, who kinda scares me), but the Yankees have some very solid arms there. The starting pitching is about even with Sabathia and Burnett having the advantage over Lackey/Weaver and Kazmir/Saunders having the advantage over Pettitte/Gaudin/Joba. So I give the Yanks a slight edge here.

That still leaves things fairly even. I like the Angels in 7, just because I can see Girardi completely over-managing his bullpen and blowing a game somewhere along the line.

I feel the need, the need...for speed!

by Gorbachav5 on Oct 12, 2009 12:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tex did nothing other then a 318 wall scraper…Same as last year,big situtation,he isn’t coming through..
I like our pitching ,but Jeter is the guy I worry about and Posada in that Yankee lineup..

by raven191 on Oct 12, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Yankees bullpen has been a huge strength coming down the stretch.

Hughes has a sub 2.00 ERA since moving to the set up role, Robertson has a 13 K/9, Coke continues to get big lefty outs since fighting off his demons early in the season, and once the ball is handed to Mo, the game is over. Throw Joba into that mix for even more solidity.

Some other notes:

- I love how you just toss aside our starting pitching.
- You must realize how poor of a defensive outfielder Bobby Abreu is, because I know all of New York does.
- A “neutralish” advantage to the Yankees playing in the Bronx? Have you watched any games they have played there this season?

I have more, but reading this fanpost frustrates me to no end.

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt

by Daniel52 on Oct 12, 2009 12:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

I agree with this guy and disagree with shiftyeyedgoat about fan advantage.

Even unfilled and populated with suits, Yankee Stadium is never an easy place to play. I think you owe it more respect.

by BruinHalo on Oct 12, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just being picky

but isn’t it “bead on the ball”?

by joeyz34 on Oct 12, 2009 1:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

angels

this will be a very tuff sieries-anyone that dont think it will go 7 is wrong—if Lackey pitches the way he has been and Weaver too the Angels will do it-the teams are very even-I give the edge to the Angels because of Scossia-but this kind of sieries can be won by a no-name also-big bats dont always come thru in the sieries-big pitchers usually do-a very very good sieries—both will beat the Dodgers so this will really be the World Sieries I just hope it will be the Angels——-put the DH in the NL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by spc7@verizon.net on Oct 12, 2009 7:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

a strikethrough strikeout.

uhmaising powuhtree man!

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 15, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Misguided Baseball Fan

you immediately discredited yourself when you pick Izturis over Jeter. yanks in 5, take your artifical noisemakers, your unwanted yanks (Rivera and Abreu), make your tee times and enjoy your nice weather.

by Jim O on Oct 12, 2009 7:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I have it on good authority that ...

Jim O is Suzie Waldman’s concubine.

John Lackey: "We fly flags."

by LazorkoRules on Oct 12, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Misguided Reader

You immediately discredit yourself by demonstrating the inability to read.

He didn’t choose Izturis over Jeter. He chose Aybar over Jeter. You get a grade F for reading comprehension…but so you don’t go away feeling bad about yourself, you earn an A for spelling Izturis correctly. Can’t say we aren’t givers here at HH.

Thanks for the unwanted Yanks! They both had big hits to help us beat the Sox yesterday. Assuming you are the appointed ambassador for Yankee Nation, I appreciate your benevolence.

You sound a bit envious of our weather. Oh well. Hope you enjoy your weather too.

by sothball on Oct 12, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

The only magic number now is #34

by Teixeira Who? on Oct 12, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Misguided Reader Part Deux

Way to use both the past and present tense in the first sentence. “You discredited yourself when you pick?”

Shouldn’t it read “You discredited yourself when you picked?” or “You discredit yourself when you pick?”

You should spend a little less time on baseball blogs and the bandwagon and a little more in school.

And yes, Thank you for Rivera and Abreu. Enjoy Johnny “Limp Wrist” Damon and the leftovers of Chicago.

The only magic number now is #34

by Teixeira Who? on Oct 12, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its all about taking the attack to the Yankees and countering theirs.

Tori Hunter said it best when he said that the Yankees are “playing with a fire that I haven’t seen in years”.

What I noticed about the Angels losses to the Yankees this season was their lethargy in countering the Yankee attack (making errors in high presssure situations, leaving men on base, not using the hit and run often enough, no suicide squeeze).

If the Angels are going to win this series, they have to use their patented strengths to full effect and continue attacking the Yankees with no let up and no quarter given.

I can assure you that the Yankees will use the long ball AND play small ball as well.

Counter the bastards at every turn. Don’t look tentative. Just focus and attack.

Christhammer congratulates the Angels for breaking the BoSox curse. Now… GO DESTROY THE YANKEES!!!!

by Christhammer on Oct 12, 2009 8:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

red floyd really hates people who talk about themselves in the third person

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Oct 12, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

princeton11loveshalos HATES people who misspell Torii Hunter's Name

Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

by princeton11loveshalos on Oct 12, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Halofan4life LIKES red floyd's and princeton11loves halos ideas.

This team is our extended family, That's why we love them no matter what the record, no matter what the score.

by halofan4life on Oct 12, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

44FAN likes that Christhammer has stopped making ridiculous fanposts

and now comments in the threads instead.

The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com

by 44FAN on Oct 12, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

red floyd want to know how anyone can misspell "Hula-Dula".

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Oct 12, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*wants to know*

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Oct 12, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 15, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a Halos fan, but...

You can’t be serious about some of these.

If the Angels’ starters pitch out of their minds the way they did against the Sox, they might hold the Yankees lineup, but it’s not because of lack of talent. The Yankees lineup is straight scary, and you can’t ignore A-Rod’s performance against the Twins. I wish you could, but you can’t.

Also, defensively: Just because the Angels’ first baseman is playing better than we thought, he’s no Gold Glover. And the other guy is. If the teams were reversed, we’d be saying we had a HUGE advantage with Mark Teixeira.

The stadium. Have you ever been to Yankee Stadium, old or new? Because as much as we want to bash the Yankees ticket prices, the fans are still there, and they’re still loud. There might be a few empty seats behind home plate, but trust me, the place rocks harder than any Thunder Sticks can, which I’m in complete favor of banning, by the way. Instead of Thunder Sticks, we could really use people getting loud on 2 strike counts and big at bats — would standing up be too much to ask? There’s really no comparison in a regular game, let alone the postseason.

Lastly, the history. Is anyone else worried about this win over the Red Sox in a karmic sense? The Halos absolutely dismantle the Sox and the air of invincibility they’ve held for the last few years, and then our fans trumpet our history against the Yankees? Something’s afoot — I just hope it’s a squeaker for the Angels instead of a sweep for the Yanks.

Angels in 7.

by Brooklyn's Lone Halo Fan on Oct 12, 2009 8:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Have you been to an Angels playoff game?

I don’t think you have, because you vastly underestimate how loud it gets, thundersticks or not. Back in ‘02, Joe Torre called it one of the loudest stadiums he’s experienced.

If you were at Game 1 of the ALDS like me, we were standing during a lot of 2 strike counts, standing during much of the game for that matter.

Do it for NA

by swiss mcgee on Oct 12, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will say...

we had always played well versus Boston in the regular season, but failed terribly in the playoffs. With the Yankees, we’ve played them better than anyone since about 1997 during the regular season, and along with that have beaten them twice in the playoffs.

by eastcoastAngel on Oct 14, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

More agressive Halo fans show up in the postseason...

I felt the thunder, the roar in my chest last week. During the regular season, I am the only person yelling loudly, so I kind of stand out. I can’t hear myself think in playoff games.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 15, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

C: Napoli and Mathis vs. Posada and Molina – Yanks
1b: Morales vs. Texiera – Yanks
2b: Kendrick/Izturis vs. Cano – Angels
SS: Aybar vs. Jeter – Yanks
3b: Figgins vs. Arod – Yanks
LF: Rivera vs. Damon – Yanks
CF: Hunter vs. Cabrera – Angels
RF: Abreu vs. Swisher – Angels
DH: Vlad vs. Matsui – Angels

Rotation: Angels
Bullpen: Yanks
Defense: Angels

Prediction: Angels in 6

by Nashdiesel on Oct 12, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

really? Damon over Rivera?

because…. his name is Johnny Damon? c’mon…

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Oct 12, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's close...

  Damon has a higher OPS and runs the bases better. Rivera is actually the better defender and has a higher WAR.

   It could go either way. If you want to make an argument for Rivera you have a pretty good case.

by Nashdiesel on Oct 12, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you could even it out

by making the catchers and LFs pushes. Posadas good, but his defense is alot worse than Mapolis’ (Nathis?), and Naps has more pop and speed, although puts the ball in play alot less frequently. Mathis v Molina is just a crapshoot, really tough to call whos better.

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Oct 12, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHA????

Rivera vs. Damon – Yanks????

Rivera >>>>> Damon.

Damon only has 20+ HR because of the Spring jet stream in Yankee stadium.

Nick, you will always be an Angel. And you will be missed.

by anaheimisnotla on Oct 12, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great write up

I disagree with a couple points:
1) Teixeira is better than Morales, both on defense and at the plate. Kendry has been a very pleasant surprise as far as how well he’s done, but Teix’s ability to draw a walk and get on base and Gold Glove defense give him more than a slight edge.
2) Chone Figgins has been fantastic at third, but Alex Rodriguez’s bat is more dangerous. Plus his defense isn’t too bad either. Not to take anything away from Figgins who has had an excellent season and was one of the best lead off men in either league, but I’d give the edge to the Yankees at 3rd.

Prediction: Angels in 7

by WiHaloFan on Oct 12, 2009 9:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one seeing how bad Tex has been in the playoffs,other then the pathetic excuse for a HR he had to win the game ???
Rally-Killer !

by raven191 on Oct 12, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

4 reasons why we might not win

not win

1. history is shit. We have beat Torre’s yankees, not Joey G (can’t spell his last name). Like in the Boston series, everyone is pretty much new.

2. exhibit 1 why we won boston series: shutting down ortiz and his gang. the yankees are hot (arod at the right time), and tex is getting hot as well.

3. I’ll take old Mo Rivera over Papelbon any day of the week – postseason clutch (except 2001)

4. the angels are spent. this was very emotionally draining for the halos – exercising all these demons.

by Halos in DE on Oct 12, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

booooooooooooo

"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)

by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 12, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

We beat “Joey G’s” Yankees this summer with Quinlan and Wilits in the outfield.

by ryanfea on Oct 12, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We swept the Yankees last time remember?

The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com

by 44FAN on Oct 12, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

History is bunk. "Last Time" is bunk.

I present as Exhibit A, the 2009 ALDS between the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, and the Boston Red Sox.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Oct 12, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We swept the Yankees in the three game series last time we played them on July 10-12.

10-6, 14-8, 5-4, this is a fact and that is what I was referring to.

The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com

by 44FAN on Oct 12, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the Yanks took 2 of 3 at the Big A in September.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Oct 12, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

from a tired, exhausted halo team.

i was at the second game and you could see that they were running at or near empty.

"it's mind-bottling."

by retrohalo on Oct 12, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no excuses

but i really see emotionally drained angels team.

the angels destroyed the red sox two years ago (i think they won one game or something) and we lost in the postseason.

regular season means nothing

by Halos in DE on Oct 12, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angels in 4.

Just keep watching.

Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.

by AlanFalcon on Oct 12, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

being very optimistic aren't we?

like I said:
1. emotionally drained
2. new yankees (like we were new angels to the red sox)
3. mo rivera > fuentes >papelbon

but…
1. not many teams go to world series in a new stadium (except cardinals
2. angels are clicking – a-fraud was only clicking in alds for yankees
3. yankees had to come back a lot to get to twins (well, angels had to come from behind twice, but not in the very late innings (8+))
4. we have Nick to play for
5. apparently their game 4 starter is …. (forgot his name, some guy from the A’s)
6. angels are the underdog
7. fox hates us (buck and mccarver are salivating a dodgers-yankees series)

by Halos in DE on Oct 13, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus

“There must be a Fu<king Game 6, it says here in the rule book”

by Halos in DE on Oct 13, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Before The All-Star break.

The Yankees had the best record in baseball after the All-Star Break.

by Onishadow14 on Oct 15, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Biased Annoying Announcers an Embarrassment for TBS and MLB

Can’t wait to hear Buck get all sad again when we are winning.

by halos47 on Oct 12, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey no need to worry the only ESPN analyst that picked us ,The HALOS, to win

 was…………………STEVE PHILLIPS!!! HAHA

First we had a Salmon and now we have a Trout, let's see the same results.

by angelskid2210 on Oct 12, 2009 10:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep. I had to check the weather report in Hell.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Oct 12, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure it was 90% chance of rain

with some freee over.

First we had a Salmon and now we have a Trout, let's see the same results.

by angelskid2210 on Oct 12, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FYI, I updated the offense section.

As astutely pointed to me in an email from a Yank’s fan — why he couldn’t respond here, I don’t know.. but I digress:

Team AVG R H HR 2B 3B RBI SB OBP SLG
Los Angeles Angels .285 883 1604 173 293 33 841 148 .350 .441
New York Yankees .283 915 1604 244 325 21 881 111 .362 .478

If you’ll notice, things are pretty. Damned. Even. With the notable exception of power hitting in a ridiculously hitter-friendly park. We trail in a couple, the Yankees trail in a couple, but all in all, the only big, big exception is the homers.

That being said, go read the new offensive section upstairs.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Oct 12, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

nice write-up, man.

Their infield is better offensively, but we get the slight nod defensively. Our outfield is better than theirs. Period.

Starting pitching is probably a wash; we may have a slight upside (don’t look at names, look at numbers). Their bullpen is probably better.

I call Angels in 6

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Oct 12, 2009 11:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How about an.....

Intangible? The 2009 Angels as a team show that “never say die, never give up” unity, that as close as I can remember, was 2002. Abreu’s presence has really brought this team together and I give the intangible factor a HUGE edge to the Halo’s!

Angels in 6

by LifelongHaloFan! on Oct 12, 2009 12:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We show that intangible too.

50 come from behind victorys? 15 walk off wins? If that’s not an intangible, I don’t know what is.

by Onishadow14 on Oct 15, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am also a closet Twins fan along with a few others on this board.

I watched all the games in the series of the Yankees/ Twins and was not that impressed with the Yankees at all. The Twins beat the Tigers in an extra, extra inning game then had to fly that night half way cross the country to start the series with the Yankees. They were dog tired but played with heart against the fully rested Yankees and the first two games were very close. Had the Twins had a little rest, better base running, and just a few clutch hits they likely would have would have beaten the Yankees. None of those games were blowouts by any means and nearly all the lucky calls went the Yankees way. The Yankees played a team that was missing Justin Morneau one of their best hitters, had an over taxed bullpen and the games were still very close. I was just not that impressed by the Yankees’ sweep of the Twins.

The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com

by 44FAN on Oct 12, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, there was nothing impressive about the way the Yankees played that series.

And I was definitely a Twins fan in the AL Central this year. Except when any of the others played Boston/New York.

Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.

by AlanFalcon on Oct 12, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yankees in 6

Ive never seen someone so biased how can you say starting pitching goes to the angels look at our first 3 pitchers Sabathia, Burnett whos good at home and Pettite whos clutch in the playoffs. And you say that Yankee stadium doesnt affect the outcome look at the yankees record at home best in the majors at 57-24while the angels are 49 and 32

by RWILS on Oct 12, 2009 1:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Yankees did'nt beat the Twins with pitching

they beat them with just a few clutch hits and some timely long balls, that’s it. Yankees pitching is good but not any better than any other team in the league with a similar number of wins.

The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com

by 44FAN on Oct 12, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's fun

Having some west coast bias every once in a while.

by TheAntiSox on Oct 12, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How Surprising, A Yankee Fan Picking the Yankees...

SHOCKING you should pick them to win, and completely unexpected that you would breeze by facts in writing your post! Sure CC Sabathia, AJ Burnett, and Andy Pettitte (by the way, learn how to spell your own guy’s last name) are good for the Yanks, but guess what? So were Jon Lester, Josh Beckett, and Clay Buchholz for Boston…and look what happened there. Want to compare what the Angels’ starters did in our sweep of the Red Sox against what the Yankees’ starters did in their sweep of the Twins? That’s a bit difficult, since there is really NO COMPARISON, but since you brought up the whole “starting pitchers” argument, here it is; even going with the biggest names for the Yanks, CC Sabathia and Andy Pettitte to be compared against the Angels’ John Lackey and Jered Weaver: Sabathia was good, sure, with a 1.35 ERA (for those statistically challenged, or stat abbreviation challenged, lol, that’s Earned Run Average), and 1.20 WHIP (Walks, Hits, Innings Pitched) for an overall 2.98 AVG (Average) over 6 and two-thirds innings in a game the Yankees defeated the Twins 7-2; meanwhile, John Lackey for the Angels was better with a 0.00 ERA, and 0.68 WHIP, for an overall .160 AVG over 7 and a third innings pitched in a game where the Angels shut out Boston by a score of 5-0. Note the almost DOUBLE numbers in EVERY CATEGORY. But I digress, let’s move on to Andy Pettitte who, again, pitched well for the Yankees with a 1.42 ERA, and 0.63 WHIP, for an overall .136 AVG over 6 and a third innings in a game the Yankees won 4-1; compared to Jered Weaver’s gem of a game with his 1.23 ERA, and 0.55 WHIP, for an overall 0.83 AVG over 7 and a third innings pitched in a game the Angels also won by a score of 4-1. The Angels starters went deeper into games and have the better stats. Dissecting the come-from-behind wins, the Yankees’ came in game 2, where Mark Teixeira had the game-ending walk-off homerun in the eleventh inning against Jose Mijares (does anyone outside of Minnesota even know who this guy is?); the Angels, in contrast, came back in dramatic fashion, down 4-6 in the bottom of the ninth, they scored three runs against the Red Sox CLOSER, Jonathan Papelbon (who hasn’t heard of him by now, someone living in a hole?).
But you’re right, Yankee fan, this post was biased. It wasn’t looking at those stats and facts. No, we let our West Coast bias direct us. Unlike most of the media, including TBS (which was broadcasting the Division Series’) and ESPN, who never let any bias sway them… No wait a minute, I’m sorry, I was thinking of the EAST COAST BIAS that had mostly everyone predicting the Angels wouldn’t even make it past the ALDS against the Red Sox! GIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK!
And your attempt to bring up the Yankees’ record to support your case for them winning against the Angels is downright sad, bordering on pathetic! No true Yankee fan should need reminding that the Angels are the only club in baseball with a winning record against them, including a sweep in the playoffs. Or even this year, the Angels have a 5-4 record, including a sweep.
Even tossing all these facts and stats aside, the Angels this year have something no other team has; the motivation to win for a fallen comrade. This is the intangible inspiration that has carried them thus far, has kept them going through all the obstacles they’ve encountered, and will continue to drive them beyond what most anyone (except us true Halos fans) had thought them capable of!

by AngelsHalo on Oct 13, 2009 4:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lackey,Weaver,Kazmir and Saunders ain’t no sloutches…
Also,our lineup can be as good as the Yanks,who really didn’t do a lot against the Twins…
Tex was a ghost really,other then his lucky shot to win the game…I’m more concerned with Jeter,A-Rod and Posada…
I think Abreu,Hunter,K-Mo and Rivera will come through for us,and what is the con fidence level of the team after the big win over Papelbum and the Sux ?

by raven191 on Oct 12, 2009 1:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Matsuki was having a good series with his bat as well.

The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com

by 44FAN on Oct 12, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like some of the yanks

and acting like they’ve suffered the biggest injustice in the world because they think we’re underestimating their starting three.

compare what your starting three did to a tired and practically punchless twins offense to what ours did to the third best offense in the al.

"it's mind-bottling."

by retrohalo on Oct 12, 2009 3:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I predict a grand slam for the Angels

at a pivotal point in the series

Figgins has to show up otherwise we lose this series. It’s too long of a series for our lead off guy to be held off the bases the whole time.

Now Lacky and Weaver scare me.
Our team looks like a bunch of tennis players with a couple of big boys.
Theirs look like hockey and football players

by Vlad Dracul on Oct 12, 2009 3:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank God

we’re playing baseball

by ryanfea on Oct 12, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah. i feel the same way.

ever since i heard that the angels were the only team in the league without a granny and since it continued to stay that way, i felt we were saving it for something special.

i thought that time was yesterday but vladdy saw that we didn’t need it yet. still, i think it’s gonna come and, when it does, it’s gonna be epic.

"it's mind-bottling."

by retrohalo on Oct 12, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, Atlanta didn't hit one either.

Oh… never mind you said “the league”, which is the AL.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Oct 12, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just checked Baseball-reference...

and you are right, the Braves also did not have a GS:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2009-batting.shtml
(under pinch hitting and situational batting)

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 15, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One thing’s for sure….thisis going to be the big series matchup of the post-season. Even EAst Coast fanboys can’t deny that the Angels are the ONLY team that knows how to beat the Yankees. A Yankee/ Red Sox matchup would have been interesting only for it’s historical perspective. The truly great matchup is the one we will be seeing.

 Do I think the Angels have the Yankees number? I’m not gonna go that far this time. But I AM gonna point this out….These are without question the two greatest teams in the MLB THIS year. One was designed that way by throwing hundreds of millions of dollars around. The other BECAME that way thru adversity, thru pain, thru one obstacle after another. One would be considered the greatest failure of the decade if they DIDN’T end up in this place. The other would have been considered a success if they had just found a way to get thru and be a team again. One is a testament to the power of moneyball, the other to the power of determination….NEITHER is going to lay down and give it to the other..Both have earned the respect of their opponents and their fans. But only one will go to the big show. …..

I’m betting on red.

by firebird81 on Oct 12, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So hard to gauge the Yankees

I think only one one of their wins against the Twins was convincing and that was game 1.
Games 2 & 3 were nail biters, obviously, but you would expect NYY to demolish the Twins instead of squeaking by like they did.

Not taking away anything from the Twins because they’re good, but it seemed they were playing more inspired than anything and did a pretty good job of taming NYY except for notching wins down. Unfortunately that inspiration came up short on the base pads, leading to their demise.

Sabbathia can get pretty shaky in the post season, Burnett barely has any experience aside from the gifts his team was handed, and Pettitte, although having the experience, he is not as forceful as he used to be.

If our guys can neutralize Cano, Posada, Cabrera, and Swisher, then Angels will have leverage.

The gang probably should have stayed on the east coast to see if Yankees could clinch (which they did), instead of having to fly across country two times in one week

by Vlad Dracul on Oct 12, 2009 5:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If our guys can neutralize Cano, Posada, Cabrera, and Swisher, then Angels will have leverage.

hmm, so we DON’T have to neutralize or slow down A-Rod or Teixeira? Can you pass that kool-aid? ;)

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 15, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is going to be an epic series i believe

This Yankee team, love em or hate em, seems different this season. They’re noticeably looser in the dugout, and i think its showing in the results. Their BAJILLION dollar payroll is actually producing positive results this season, and last but not least, our fav prima donna Arod is producing in October. Do not underestimate them on past matchups. That’s the very thing all us Halo fans couldnt stand when it came to the media pundits analyzing the Sox’s “dominance” of our Halos. Different season, different results. Sosh & the club will realize this and i believe they will be ready for friday. I got the Halos in 6 but it really is anyone’s series. GO HALOS

#34 R.I.P.
Heavenly Offense

by BigBangRobbDawgg on Oct 12, 2009 5:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

oh... and as for the individual matchups...

1B- Tex over Kmo on both sides (although the only big gap between the 2 is salary)
2B- Izzy/Howie over Cano w/ the glove, offensively they’re even.
3B- Arod over Figgy (both are great in the role they play, Arod based on ALDS play)
SS- Jeter over Aybar w/ the bat, vice versa w/ the glove
OF- Torii/Juan/Chupa over Swisher/Melky/Damon .. seriously… its not evevn close people.
DH- Vlad = Matsui (Vlad would have similiar #‘s had he played as often as Big lizard)
Bench- it’s actually closer than people think, i’ll take the halos, but gardner & whichever hairston they have are useful pieces for the yanks.
Manager- Sosh over Girardi … nuff said

#34 R.I.P.
Heavenly Offense

by BigBangRobbDawgg on Oct 12, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OF defense

Not as wide a margin as you think.

UZR
Swisher 1.6
Abreu
-5.2

Hunter -3.5
Cabrera 2.6
Gardner 13.3

Rivera 13.8
Damon-11.9

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 12, 2009 7:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

why those two things are strikethrough I don't know.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 12, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

because you area Yankees fan.

The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com

by 44FAN on Oct 12, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's probably it.

good one.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 12, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was Gardners UZR/150 13.3

or UZR? Because it makes a pretty noticeable difference.

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Oct 12, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like a good place to make my appearance...

Sabathia has done poorly in the postseason in the past, mainly because he pitched multiple games for the Brewers at the end of last season on 3 days rest to help them make the playoffs. Of course, once they did, he was dead tired and they lost.

Burnett I personally don’t trust because he hasn’t been anywhere near strong enough to expire my confidence but he did have a good start in Game 2, so I will give him that. Still, my least favorite Yankee starter.

Pettitte is a gamer, a real postseason veteran (now tied for #1 all time with 15 postseason wins. He matched Pavano in Game 3 and with him on the mound the Yankees will never be out of it.

The Yankee lineup is incredibly dangerous. A-Rod is on fire and both Teixeira and Posada have had clutch hits, but really any of them can hurt you. DH was ignored in the analysis but Matsui (although he can’t run for his life) is a great hitter and a clutch guy as well. That being said, the Angels lineup, though not as powerful, is also threatening.

In terms of the bullpen, Mariano (Hall of Famer) is leagues better than Fuentes. Both the Angels and the Yankees have good setup men.

A big wild card in this series will be the Game 4 starters. From the Yankees you will probably see Joba Chamberlain or Chad Gaudin. Neither has pitched in a while, although Joba has been coming out of the bullpen. Who will the Angels pitch?

It’s really anyone’s series and since history will be largely irrelevant here the first few games will set the trend. With CC on the mound in Game 1 I feel good about the Yankees’ chances. Burnett will probably botch Game 2, but if the offense doesn’t bail us out, Andy might in Game 3. The Yankees had the best home record in the MLB.

I predict Yankees in 6, but it could easily go either way. These teams are in the ALCS for a reason.

by YankeesRock on Oct 12, 2009 10:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He matched Pavano?

Did a Yankees fan really type that?

Is matching Pavano impressive?

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Oct 12, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Say what you want about Pavano

but the guy isn’t a bad pitcher. The only reason he sucks is because he gets hurt too much. There’s a reason the Yanks gave him $40 million for 4 years. We thought that we would be getting the kind of performances that he had against us in Game 3.

by YankeesRock on Oct 13, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Reason

Yeah you guys buy whatever is hot and he was fresh off a WS victory.

Pavano does not make our team. That 5.10 ERA is BADASS!

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Oct 13, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pavano is not a bad pitcher

How about his 147 Ks vs. 39 walks. His 1.37 WHIP is about average.

Kazmir had a 4.89 ERA and a 1.42 WHIP. Ervin Santana had a 5.03 ERA and a 1.47 WHIP. Pavano is about in line with a #3 or #4 starter for your team. Don’t get ahead of yourselves.

Pettitte’s 4.16 ERA is better than all of those guys. He outpitched Pavano and he’ll outpitch Kazmir.

by YankeesRock on Oct 13, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All the pitchers you named were injured

Care to compare their September numbers?

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Oct 13, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game 4

We will pitch an All Star, Joe Saunders

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Oct 12, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if he falters

All Star Ervin Santana!

That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey

by anaheim angels on Oct 12, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he hasn’t been anywhere near strong enough to expire my confidence

how does one “expire” confidence?

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 15, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angels in 4

Game 1: Lackey outpitches CC for a close win.
Game 2: Burnett doesn’t last 5 innings. Angels win in a convincing fashion.
Game 3: Kazmir bounces back to pitch a gem.
Game 4: With well rested shoulders, Saunders and Bullpen limits Skanks to 2 runs.

Angels 2009 WS Champs

by dan73962 on Oct 12, 2009 11:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If they happen

I will be at 1 and 2

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Oct 13, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quit Whining About Payroll!

As a Yankees fan I get sick and tired of hearing the payroll excuse as the reason the Yanks win. First, we haven’t won cr*p since 2000 and have had the highest payroll each year, and 2. the Yankee payroll is 64.1% higher than our closest division rivals – the Red Sox. Your beloved Angels payroll is 65.5% higher than the second place team in your division, the Rangers. There IS A BIGGER gap between you and the second place team than between us and our 2nd place team! QUIT WHINING!

by yankeegm on Oct 13, 2009 6:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

not our fault our division's cheap.

also, learn how to properly compare things – next thing i’ll know, you’ll be comparing our payroll to the nationals.
now, go back to wishing you could afford tickets to your stadium while us halo fans pack ours in red and thunder stix.

(hmm, i wonder why the tickets would be so expensive… it is a most elusive question. could it be because the yanks built a billion dollar stadium, using limited space as an excuse to build it as tiny as possible, on top of a 200 million dollar payroll?)

"it's mind-bottling."

by retrohalo on Oct 13, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Payroll...
  1. and #3 in payroll are the Mets and Cubs. How’d that work out? Yeah, don’t denigrate all our success to a higher payroll.

by Wraithpk on Oct 17, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adenhart's Effect

I hate to burst the bubble for you guys, but Nick’s death doesn’t put the Angels on a mission of destiny. Granted, it was a very tough time for the team and the fact that they all pulled to together and were able to perform is a credit to the Angels.

Winning a Championship because of a tragic death? Don’t see the karma in that. Matter of fact, the nation has portrayed the celebration of your clinching parties with somewhat disdain. The whole pouring beer and champagne over his Jersey when the kid was killed in a car crash from a drunk driver was in poor taste.

by DocBooch on Oct 13, 2009 8:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

you can talk when he's your teammate.

otherwise, STFU.

wanker.

"it's mind-bottling."

by retrohalo on Oct 13, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are a fucking idiot

If you think the celebration is poor taste you just don’t get it.

Play Wood already. Willits sucks.

by hauldog on Oct 13, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You might wanna go look back at your 2001 playoff run

You wanna harp on us for something? Look in the mirror.

That was handled with respect, and this is as well. But hey “the nation” has portrayed our celebration in poor taste…they lost.

RIP #34

by linkbruin on Oct 14, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

-∞

You have no right to bring up that topic here. Out of line, out of morality.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Oct 15, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me try one

I’m a Yankees fan, but I’m going to try not to be biassed here. This is a series between two great teams, and it’s going to be close.

Offense:
Catcher- Jorge beats both your catchers, although if Joe plans to use Molina to catch Burnett, then they may have an offensive problem there. Still, the Yankees starter wins. AD-YANKS
First- Tex beats Morales. Sorry. Morales had a great year, but Tex lead the AL in homers and rbi for a reason. Plus, he’s better as a switch hitter, while most of Morales’s damage comes from the left side. AD- YANKS
Second- Cano wins. He had a breakout year this year. He can’t hit with RISP, but if we’re only looking at numbers than Cano wins. By a lot. AD- YANKS
Third- A-Rod. Not really that hard. AD- YANKS
Short- Jeter. Again, not really that hard. AD-YANKS
Left- Offensively? Johnny Damon is better than Juan Rivera. He had a great offensive season, although he’s struggled in the playoffs and in September. He’s also struggled against the Angels. Because of all that, I’ll say it’s EVEN. Remember, I’m trying not to be biassed.
Center- Hunter beats Cabrera. He’s better. I’ll admit it. He’s better. AD-ANGELS
Right- Swish had a great year, but Abreu is better. I wish the Yanks had resigned him. AD-ANGELS
DH- Vlad and Matsui? Thats a close one. I’ll say EVEN.

Defense-
Catcher- Both are pretty bad. Although if Molina/Cervelli catches at all, they are both good. I’d say AD-YANKS (slightly)
First- Tex is going to win the GG this year. He’s a beast at first base. AD-YANKS
Second Base- This is one of the ones I disagree with you on. You say “Cano is garbage”, but thats not true. He may win the Gold Glove at second base. He turns a DP better than any second baseman in baseball. And he has a great arm. AD-YANKS
Third- A-Rod has a cannon for an arm, and that helps him out a lot. But Figgins is, overall, a better third baseman. AD-ANGELS
Short- Jeter’s range has decreased a lot, and Aybar is a terrific shortstop. AD-ANGELS
Left Field- Damon is pathetic in left field. You always feel like you have to hold you breath if the ball is hit out to him. AD-ANGELS
Center Field- This depends on who the Yankees play. If Melky plays, then it’s an Angel advantage. But if Joe plays Gardner, then the Yankees have an advantage. Gardner’s arm isn’t that strong, but he can run down balls better than any outfielder in baseball (due to his speed). I’m going to assume they will play Melky though, so it’s AD-ANGELS
Right Field- One thing that annoyed me about Abreu as a Yankee was his defense. He acted as if the wall was a big shark and he was the seal. He’s not that great out there. Granted, Swish is pretty bad too. AD-EVEN

Starting Pitching
CC, Burnett, Pettitte, and Lackey, Weaver, and Kazmier? Both pretty good. I’m assuming that CC and Lackey will both pitch on short rest, and then pitch Game 7. So the aces will define this series. Both aces suck against the team they are playing, so it really doesn’t help. I’m saying EVEN.

Bullpen
I’m giving a slight edge to the Yanks here. Rivera beats Fuentes by a country mile, and Hughes and Joba setting up? The Yankees have a better bullpen than the Angels, especially if Joe decides to take Marte OUT of the playoff roster. AD-YANKS

Stadium
I’m speaking from personal experience here. I’ve never been to Angel Stadium. But I live in NY and I have season tickets to the Yankees. And I go to as many playoff games as I can. And let me tell you, there is NOTHING like playoff baseball in Yankee Stadium. The fans are in it from the beginning to the end, and you guys have to admit that the Yankees are some of the loudest fans in baseball. Angel fans? They are great and loud, and they have those thunder sticks as well. Yankee Stadium is going to be louder, simply because they have more people (bigger stadium). And the Yankees have the best home record in baseball. That has to help too. These are two of the best playoff atmosphere’s in baseball. But I have to give the edge to the Yanks. AD-YANKS

Overall? Slight edge to the Yankees, I think. This will be a great series, and history means nothing. I thought you guys proved that against the Sox. Yankees won 103 games for a reason. They are VERY good. As are the Angels. This is going to be, like Andy Pettitte said, a war. We’ll see how it turns out. My prediction?

Yanks in 7.

GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!

PS- I honestly tried not to be biassed.

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 13, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets see here..

You’re not trying to be biased, yet you know nothing about the Halos, and give the advantage to the skanks in every category other than starting pitching. Hmmm. Sounds pretty biased to me. And even in the starting pitching you declare it to be even. Fine, I’ll go along with the premise, so your pitching is even with ours, yet it seems that much like the bosux, Girardi is so certain of his starting pitching’s prowess that he’s only going with 3 starters? Outside of CC, Burnett and Petite, who you got? Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson? Let me guess, Wang and or Hughes will miraculously morph into saviours and studs. Give me a break, your a homer, and so are we, but it seems to me, that much like your coddled and self righteous brethren the bosux, the thought that maybe, just maybe, the Yanks aren’t as good as advertised, or more to the point, we aren’t going to just bow down to the skankee mystique, and perish the thought…WHOOP THAT ASS!!!

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Oct 13, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And nyrocks29.

To prove I am as unbiased as can be expected for a fan of the Halos, I was wrong in this regard, in terms of offense, you gave the nod to us in CF and RF. Defensively, the nod was given at 3rd (that does take some serious gonads, considering all the new found man crushes for A-Roid, throughout the skankee faithful), SS with Aybar, over Jeter ( huge gonads necessary for such blasphemy ), and LF with Rivera and CF with Torii. So, I’m going to say something you’ll never hear from most NY and Boston fans. I was partially wrong in my previous post.

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Oct 13, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said I would try not to be biassed

Nobody is perfect. I thought I did pretty well. I don’t know how I “know nothing about the Halos”. I thought I got it done pretty well. Where was I wrong? Starting pitching? Yes, I know that the Yankees have 3 reliable starters. Good thing that is all the Yankees will need (unless there is a rain out). I would take CC on short rest over Kazmir, and I’m sure most people would say that. CC is going to get Cy Young votes. He’s better than Kazmir. I honestly think that CC is better than any other starting pitcher in this series, and with him pitching 3 times, I think that will make a big difference. Thats why I said it was even.

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 14, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

hunter’s better at cf no matter which one of your players you guys send out. not even close.

"it's mind-bottling."

by retrohalo on Oct 14, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you seen Gardner out there?

I said he’s better simply because of his speed, and I’m 100% sure that he can run down balls better than Hunter. I’m also sure that Hunter has a better arm. It depends on which you think is more important. If you think that a stronger arm and the occasional robbed home run is important, then go with Hunter. But if you think that running balls down in the gaps is more important, then Gardner wins. He’s one of the fastest in the AL. Thats a fact.

That one depends completely on what you think makes a good center fielder. And I doubt it matters, because Melky is going to be playing.

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 14, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not trying to argue but

just cause you’re fast doesn’t mean you’re good. just look at juan pierre.

"it's mind-bottling."

by retrohalo on Oct 14, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that

Pierre is pretty bad. But if you watched Gardy out there, you’d see that he’s not the same.

Both are tremendous center fielders. Can’t wait for this game! Is it Friday yet?

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 15, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you seen Gardner out there?

I said he’s better simply because of his speed, and I’m 100% sure that he can run down balls better than Hunter. I’m also sure that Hunter has a better arm. It depends on which you think is more important. If you think that a stronger arm and the occasional robbed home run is important, then go with Hunter. But if you think that running balls down in the gaps is more important, then Gardner wins. He’s one of the fastest in the AL. Thats a fact.

That one depends completely on what you think makes a good center fielder. And I doubt it matters, because Melky is going to be playing.

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 14, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry about the double post

don’t know how that happened.

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 14, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hunter...

is better than Melky, but not better than Gardner.

by Wraithpk on Oct 17, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So...

how’d that Angels in 1 prediction work out for ya? Ridiculous, and you say we’re biased. Most Yankee fans are calling it Yanks in 6 or 7, but you guys are being disrespectful saying “Angels in the 4th inning of game 1.”

by Wraithpk on Oct 17, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Na na na na nah, you were wrong, hahahaha

Real burn coming back to this thread and making comments like this. Of course most Angel fans picked the Angels in 6 or 7…at least five or six times in this thread for that matter, but no we’re being “disrespectful”. Go fuck yourself and take your elitist bullshit with you.

Congratulations on being exactly where you were in ’02 and ’05…up 1-0.

Do it for NA

by swiss mcgee on Oct 17, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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