CC v. Big John
by BruinHalo on Oct 12, 2009 2:35 PM PDT
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Anyone who has read an Angels/Yankees preview has witnessed the manlove expressed by Yankee fans toward CC, and we all know that Big John is an absolute beast. So as we approach the Battle of the Titans on Friday, I think it is worth taking a look at which pitcher is "better."
Disclaimer: I am no stathead, and I am just taking basic statistics from Baseball-Reference.com so interpret them as you wish.
REGULAR SEASON CAREER
CC:
3.62 ERA, 288 G, 1889.1 IP, 1738 H, 827 R, 590 BB, 1590 SO, 1.232 WHIP, 1.45 SO/BB
Big John:
3.81 ERA, 234 G, 1501.0 IP, 1519 H, 702 R, 441 BB, 1201 SO, 1.306 WHIP, 1.87 SO/BB
PLAYOFFS CAREER
CC:
6.54 ERA, 31.2 IP, 41 H, 24 R, 4 HR, 22 BB, 32 SO, 1.989 WHIP, 2.69 SO/BB
BIg John:
3.02 ERA, 65.2 IP, 60 H, 22 R, 4 HR, 23 BB, 43 SO, 1.264 WHIP, 2.72 SO/BB
PLAYOFFS THIS SEASON
CC:
1.35 ERA, 6.2 IP, 8 H, 2 R, 0 HR, 0 BB, 8 SO, 1.200 WHIP, INF SO/BB
Big John:
0.00 ERA, 7.1 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 HR, 1 BB, 4 SO, 0.682 WHIP, 4 SO/BB
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Once again...
The numbers do not support the opinions expressed by the “experts.”
This reminds of the constant drumbeat about the powerful Red Sox offense, third in the AL in runs scored. Who was second, you douches?
by davidbrad65 on Oct 12, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Obviously the Yanks, with the Red Sox having the most runs. Only Boston and the NYY are allowed to lead the league in any statistic.
Disclaimer: My views (do not really) reflect those of ESPN, not my own.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
by red floyd on Oct 12, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC is FAT
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Oct 12, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So was the Cy Young Winner of 2005
…ok… point taken.
by BruinHalo on Oct 12, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I was thinking.
I’m wondering if we’ll be seeing Bartolo Colon, Marie Osmond Nutrilite commercials anytime soon?
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Oct 12, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nutri/System.
Marie plugs Nutri/System
Valerie Bertinelli plugs Jenny Craig (after Kirtie Alley’s epic fail)
Not sure who plugs Weight Watchers (which is kind of embarrassing, since I’m a WW member)
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
by red floyd on Oct 12, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the heads up.
I knew I was wrong when I posted that. I think Golic, Marino and Shula pimp Nutrilite.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Oct 12, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
in fairness,
colon should not have won that. i was happy since he was an angel and everything but santana was robbed.
"it's mind-bottling."
by retrohalo on Oct 12, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC gets tired after five or six innings easily and grows hungry.
The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com
by 44FAN on Oct 12, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have Vladdy's mom start cooking in the clubhouse and have the smells distract CC.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Oct 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we all saw him choke in the ALCS in 07, then run out of gas in 08.
He has the ability, but odds are he will not perform as well as the skanks were hoping when they paid him.
by Big Bad, 'Vlad'! on Oct 12, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just look at that Postseason ERA this year.
CC is literally infinitely worse than Lackey.
That’s how stats work, right?
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
by AlanFalcon on Oct 12, 2009 5:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
On the contrary
Lackey is infinitely worse at walking batters.
by BruinHalo on Oct 12, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC in his career vs. the Halos.
5-7, ERA 4.72, WHIP 1.460, SO/9 6.8, .278 BAA, .760 OPSA. In short he has not done so well against us.
#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!
by TheOptimist on Oct 12, 2009 6:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, would you believe
5-7, 4.66 ERA, 1.534 WHIP, .289 BAA, .817OPSA? So yeah, this may not be the pitcher’s duel many expect…
#34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!
by TheOptimist on Oct 12, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember a slugfest in the World Series about 7 years ago
was at that game – I wouldn’t mind duplicating it at the expense of CC’s and John’s ERA.
As long as the Halos win, I don’t care how its accomplished.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
by johnnyangel101 on Oct 12, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was there as well
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Oct 12, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as was I
craziest game I have ever been at
That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey
by anaheim angels on Oct 12, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was freaking insane
A rolercoaster
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Oct 12, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's crazy how even these pitchers are...
even when they suck
by BruinHalo on Oct 12, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just curious, how does CC have INF strikeouts this postseason?
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
by Clutch on Oct 12, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
0 BB's
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Oct 12, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, right, missed that "/BB" part!
Surprise the comp didn’t explode when asked to calculate that one, then!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5
by Clutch on Oct 12, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a tough choice
I mean, CC has the better talent, but Lackey has the makeup and that mentality that he is just NOT going to lose. Im not exactly sure how much the mentality outweighs CCs talent (but Lackey isnt some random shmuck either, hes a top 15 SP in the league)
That'll only happen if that one prospect is the second coming of Christ and redemption for mankind can only be achieved by smacking many balls out of the yard.
-The Limey
by anaheim angels on Oct 12, 2009 11:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
CC is a good pitcher no doubt.
And Lackey pitched a tremendous game 1 against the sux. But, I’d rather go with Lackey, don’t get me wrong, if it was a hot dog eating contest, or an Oprah look alike contest, Sabathia’s your man, but I have every confidence that Lackey and the rest of the Halos have exorcised their playoff demons.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Oct 12, 2009 11:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
CC's got better career numbers...
But John is looking for a new contract and what better place to audition than on this national stage…
by Jietoh on Oct 13, 2009 9:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Career postseason numbers?
I certainly was not impressed with start against the Twins.
I know most NYY fans were saying “uh oh!” when the Twins got the early lead.
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
by hauldog on Oct 13, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big John Lackey Anyday
Show CC what a fat turd he is. Go shut them faggots and their faggot fans. Show them media what Angels are all about. Go John!
Angels 2009 WS Champs
by dan73962 on Oct 16, 2009 12:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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