Angels Bangin' With Bucks: Wednesday Halolinks
by WiHaloFan on Oct 14, 2009 7:11 AM PDT
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MLB postseason schedule, baseball playoff TV listings 2009 - SI.com
League Championship Series American League
Game 1: Los Angeles Angels at New York Yankees | Friday, Oct. 16, 7:57 p.m. (FOX)
Game 2: Los Angeles Angels at New York Yankees | Saturday, Oct. 17, 7:57 p.m. (FOX)
Game 3: New York Yankees at Los Angeles Angels | Monday, Oct. 19, 4:13 p.m. (FOX)
Game 4: New York Yankees at Los Angeles Angels | Tuesday, Oct. 20, 7:57 p.m. (FOX)
Game 5*: New York Yankees at Los Angeles Angels | Thursday, Oct. 22, 7:57 p.m. (FOX)
Game 6*: Los Angeles Angels at New York Yankees | Saturday, Oct. 24, 4:13 p.m. (FOX)
Game 7*: Los Angeles Angels at New York Yankees | Sunday, Oct. 25, 8:20 p.m. (FOX)
ALCS matchup: Yankees vs. Angels - Stan McNeal - Sporting News
The Angels this decade have been to the Yankees what the Red Sox had been to the Angels: a postseason roadblock. New York has the sluggers and the starters to reverse its L.A. fortunes, but the Angels are brimming with confidence after finally beating their nemesis.
Torii's Storiis: How sweet it is!
"I've never been a part of a game that felt any better than this. The way we came back, the way we just refused to go down, it was just amazing to be in the middle of something like that."
Angels continue heavenly ascent without Sabathia, Teixeira - CBSSports.com
No regrets ... as long as Teixeira and Sabathia don't do any better against the Angels in the ALCS than they did against them during the regular season. In 10 meetings with the Angels this year, Teixeira batted just .225, didn't hit a home run and drove in just two runs. In two starts against the Angels, Sabathia was 0-2 with a 6.08 ERA.
Halos get bang for their 'Teixeira bucks' - angelsbaseball.com
While you can't always get what you want, you just might find you get what you need. With the $20 million they had budgeted for Teixeira, who accepted $22.5 million a year for eight years from the Yankees, the Angels honed in on outfielders and a closer. Signing Juan Rivera ($3.25 million), Bobby Abreu ($6 million with incentives met) and Brian Fuentes ($8.5 million), the Angels committed $17.75 million to three performers who would play pivotal roles in the club's ascension to a third consecutive American League West title.
Angels, Yanks could be one for the ages - FOX Sports on MSN
Get ready for one hell of an ALCS. You've got the two largest media markets in play, you've got bi-coastal tribalism, you've got two candidates for "Team of the Decade" honors, you've got two thunderous offenses, and — most of all — you've got the two best teams in baseball.
Quick Hits: Peterson on pitching, roster decisions and the ALCS sked - River Avenue Blues
Interesting video breaking down the Yankees' pitchers
The real Figgins is ALCS key - Angels Unplugged - Los Angeles Times
"I actually thought I was in good rhythm against the Red Sox," said Figgins at the team's practice at Angel Stadium today. "Really, I felt good at the plate. They just kept making good pitches on me." If he felt good, he didn't look good. His regular line-drive stroke was missing and he took far too many called strikes.
ALCS Preview: Is Bobby Abreu Fast? - FanGraphs Baseball
Abreu’s basic counting stats are those of a legitimate stolen base threat. Abreu stole 30 bases this year and has averaged 28.4 SB since 1998, when he became a full-timer with the Phillies. Over the same span, he’s averaged only 9.1 CS, good for a 75.8% success rate — above any break-even point you’d care to use.
Joe has plan for Halos on wheels - NY Post
Joe Girardi was adamant that he doesn’t want his pitchers worrying much about the Angels on the basepaths. But he does plan to try a few ideas to prevent the Angels from stealing a boatload of bases in the ALCS. "The focus when you play the Angels is not to get wrapped up in their running game, because they’re going to run," Girardi said on a conference call yesterday. "The bottom line is that you have to keep making pitches, and when your focus is so much on the running game, you don’t make the pitches that you need to make. "Moving forward, we’ll talk to our pitchers about that like we did the last series, and we’ll do things to try to curb their running game."
No changes in umpiring ... or anything else - SweetSpot by Rob Neyer - ESPN
I'm bringing this subject up (again) for one reason: to explain why we're not going to see more video review in the foreseeable future. We're not going to see it because nothing happens in Major League Baseball without the commish's assent, and the commish is finished with this one.
George Castle - Bench Jockey – Is baseball afraid of competing with football? - True/Slant
Baseball does the scheduling equivalent of a lambada dance to avoid going directly against college football on Saturday afternoons and the NFL on Sundays with its postseason presentation. The fear, with some justification, is that the grand ol’ game will be swamped in the TV ratings by the football colossus on both weekend days.
No camouflaging his loyalty to the Angels -- latimes.com
Michael Turner was scrambling to keep up with his Angels. His only option was his computer. He was hunched over the screen, reading that Vladimir Guerrero had put the ball in play, watching an arc that represented the ball flying from home plate toward center field. "I started yelling, 'Drop, drop, drop!' " Turner said. "Finally, it did."
October 14 - BR Bullpen
Events, births and deaths that occurred on October 14.
2002 - Light hitting second baseman Adam Kennedy becomes the fifth player to hit three home runs in a postseason game, helping the Anaheim Angels to secure the first World Series berth in the franchise's 42-year history. Using a ten-run seventh inning, Anaheim beats the Minnesota Twins 13 - 5 to win the ALCS in five games.
Happy birthday - 1954 - Willie Aikens, infielder
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i say something else...
have a nhl style system (with an official ‘up-stairs’ that makes the decision if it should be looked at, leaving it to the umps brings egos to mind aka i know what i saw, and i am not wrong). use that for regular AND post season.
then i would not change regular season (so only homeruns with the new system in place)
for post season (and one game playoffs, which are considered game 163)
1. fair and foul down the lines (beyond 3rd base)
2. plays at the plate
3. trapping the ball
i am still trying to figure out if i want it at all bases.
by Halos in DE on Oct 14, 2009 7:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The problem I have with instant replay in baseball is...
I believe that the call should be made on the field so the players can play out the rest of the play accordingly. A call on a close play has an impact what happens next.
This is not the case in the NFL, the call on the field happens and the players play out the rest of the action regardless. After the dust has settled they can review if the call on the field was the correct one and put the ball on the field for the next play, set the down and clock where they’re supposed to be an move on.
This is also not the case for the reviewable calls in the NHL. They review goals after the puck is dead, nothing else (unless its changed recently, I haven’t followed the NHL all that much in recent years).
What they can do is this… Have the pitchfx system call balls and strikes. Leave the ump behind the plate, just have him wired to the computer. The computer puts out a low tone beep in his ear for a ball and a high tone beep in his ear for a strike. He then makes the call for the players on the field.
The fans and TV audience doesn’t even need to know whats going on, just magically the ball and strike calls are all perfect, there’s no players glaring at the ump or gettting thrown out for arguing balls and strikes. The system is carefully calibrated before every game and even if its off a little bit, its the exact same system for both pitchers so both are getting the exact same calls.
They can also use replay for “did he swing” reviews. Put that up on the big screen whenever the catcher points at the first / third base ump and let everyone, players, coaches, fans and umpires see a replay of the swing to determine if the batter went around. The base umpire is responsible for making the decision and he can do it from where he’s standing within a minute of the appeal. He gets not only his perspective on the field but the replay as well.
by Jietoh on Oct 14, 2009 8:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Checked swing judgment calls, to me, are the thing that can’t accurately be decided on a replay. Certainly not with the camera angles we have at home on disputed checked swings. If they changed the rule to say “at bat that passes beyond a line perpendicular to the home plate” or something that isn’t a judgment call, then I could see replay here, but I still wouldn’t think it would be the best use of replay.
I’m on the replay fence though. I think disputed HR calls has been fine — I’ve been to two games where a Home Run was disputed and it felt worth the wait to get the right call. And watching on TV it goes by even quicker as the disputed HR ball is replayed ad museum.
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
by AlanFalcon on Oct 14, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is my main worry
What happens to plays where a call is made that renders a play dead (i.e. a pop fly to the outfield that’s trapped by a fielder but called an out). What do you do with runners on bases? What if it’s a relatively deep fly down the line? Do you award the batter second base?
Now we’ve removed one form of subjectivity (umpire error) only to introduce another when the umpires have to make a judgment call as to how the play would have continued had the right call been made. That’s going to be tricky.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on Oct 14, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
I think if you’re going to implement replay in a limited fashion, it should definitely be required on all boundary plays where there is any question. not necessarily where a guy is tagged out (steal second, whatever), but maybe it makes sense if i’s a force out or a play where a run scores.
"This is a guy who is a combination of great courage and, nuts!"- Steve Physioc
by Brian S (brianguy) on Oct 15, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no replays for B&S
or checked-swings. unless the 1B / 3B claims he missed it (yeah right, like that’s going to happen) or was somehow blocked, and wants to make his decision. but that would hold up the game immensely.
Jietoh, FYI, the NHL primarily relies on video replay for goals only. but a goal can be reviewed while the play continues – say if a puck may have gone in and out of the goal so quickly that it appeared to the naked eye to simply deflect off the “inside” portion of the post and wasn’t ruled a goal, and play continued with no whistle (if not a goal, the official would likely have no reason to blow the whistle). then at the next legitimate whistle, the on-ice referree would call upstairs and see if the potential goal needs to count. if a goal indeed happened, the additional time that would’ve elapsed is put back on the clock and the game must be played forward from that point.
"This is a guy who is a combination of great courage and, nuts!"- Steve Physioc
by Brian S (brianguy) on Oct 15, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
...the B&S calls should be left to robots, naturally
"This is a guy who is a combination of great courage and, nuts!"- Steve Physioc
by Brian S (brianguy) on Oct 15, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Football Method
I like the idea of giving the Manager a fixed number of disputes per game. If he tosses his marker onto the field, then he’s requesting review that the call. If it’s a called third strike or close play at first, whatever. A dispute causes the replay official to review the call. Clear evidence overturns the call on the field, otherwise it stands. Overturned called don’t count against the mgr. I will miss the Manager kicking dirt onto the Ump’s shoes and getting tossed out of the game, though!
by AngryFan on Oct 14, 2009 8:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it's not a bad idea
we were talking about it at work the other day. a challenge makes sense, except I don’t really understand how many you should get, that would make any sense. I mean, it’s not like football where there are a limited number of time outs.
it works now because a manager can come out and argue or to get clarification (or stall) anytime they really make a mistake. that can hold up the game just as much, or more. but to limit it to one challenge every two innings or say (example) 3 per game just seems really arbitrary. but I don’t see any other way than to limit it.
I’m sure the purists can/will go nuts. but just about every sport should have a “challenge” flag if you think about it. I’m really trying to understand why NBA and NHL don’t already.
"This is a guy who is a combination of great courage and, nuts!"- Steve Physioc
by Brian S (brianguy) on Oct 15, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball doesn't need replay.
It needs Umpires who aren’t assholes. Judgement calls and point of view are part of the game. However, umpires have to have the will, the humility and the prerogative to correct a call if there is an indication that the call was wrong. A challenge from a manager or player, another angle from a different ump, etc. If it’s too late to correct then call it a learning experience.
Also, they need to face the music (post-game press conferences, manager meetings) just like everyone else does. Defend yourself! If you admit that as you saw the play live it happened differently than what the replay showed then so be it. Admit you were wrong and move on. Every knows it’s part of the game everyone knows it’s a hard, pressure packed job. Just be honest and up front. Don’t pretend you are perfect and by extension ‘better’ than everyone else. That just makes everything worse.
Captain, there are doubt's...
by Match Day 5 on Oct 14, 2009 9:19 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
For replay, it's a question of what I dislike least.
I don’t like the idea of video replay, but I dislike even more when an umpire blows an easy call, and there is absolutely no chance to correct the error.
There was one play in game 2 of the ALDS where Howie Kendrick was out by a full stride. He was called safe. It would have taken 10 seconds of video review to confirm the correct call. In that case, it’s a no-brainer that video should be used. I can’t understand why it’s even a question.
by sothball on Oct 14, 2009 9:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
10 seconds of video review from an extra umpire in a video room, but not if they all have to go down to the viewing booth like a HR dispute.
Let's do this for Nick Adenhart, Courtney Stewart, and Henry Pearson.
by AlanFalcon on Oct 14, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
I don’t think there’s any way they should increase replay if it’s going to take them 10 minutes every time. Have an umpire watching the plays and have him signal the umpires on the field (whether he’s at the stadium or at major league headquarters, it doesn’t matter) when he sees something wrong. It shouldn’t take longer than 30 seconds in those clearcut cases.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on Oct 14, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do realize, of course...
…that even your level-headed approach requires that he umpire team have its own camera crew to give the TV ump a wide variety of camera angels that he/she can review between pitches? And a whole production team to manage those cameras and all the recordign/replay work?
Why?
Well, because otherwise you put the possibility of bias in the hands of the home TV production crew. The producer in the truck sees something amiss on the field that benefits his local team, hs favorite team, or perhaps the team that his employer prefers on a national level? Well, let’s just let that one slip by without showing it again on any broadcast feed that some ump might be monitoring…there. Next pitch, mistake never happened!
You too can be a baseball media analyst! Just don't allow your need to be wrong in public to get in the way of your ignorance.
by Stirrups on Oct 14, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally agree that...
if the umpires at least had to own up to it (press conference, etc) than i would be fine with it. my problem is with the egotistical umps who refuse to consider talking to the other umpires (there is a specific rule though) on it. even on hr calls the umpire has to admit to looking at a replay. there was a game i was watching where the ball clearly went above the foul poll (meaning fair), and the umpire called it foul (please don’t ask why is the foul poll fair). the manager asked for review, but the umpire said no, because he knew what he saw. AND that is why i want replay expanded.
by Halos in DE on Oct 14, 2009 9:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see an issue with a reply official in the booth who could overrule the field refs...
I think it would clean up some bad calls and wouldn’t slow the game down much.
Honestly, I don’t understand how the game would be slowed by replay when we already have the slowdown of managers running out to argue calls with the umps currently. Put in replay and institute a rule that the managers can’t leave the dugout. Now you have no time difference at all.
by thetooth on Oct 14, 2009 10:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm still absolutely flabbergasted
That on two different occasions there is a West coast game and an East coast game on the same day (Friday and next Monday) and Fox is choosing to start the West Coast game at 1:15 pm instead of 7 pm.
It’s basically a giant eff you to west coast fans. “Oh I’m sorry, did you want to watch your team on TV? You didn’t want to have to take vacation time to watch your team? To effing bad, suckers!”
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on Oct 14, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Monday night football must be the issue.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Oct 14, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's the only explanation
I heard about it yesterday, but I couldn’t fathom why (was busy driving anyway). now it makes sense.
"This is a guy who is a combination of great courage and, nuts!"- Steve Physioc
by Brian S (brianguy) on Oct 15, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's really a stupid problem, at least it seems stupid to me.
This is the playoffs for a major sport being pre-empted by a regular season game that just happens to get chosen as game of the week (I’m guessing that’s what the point of Monday Night Football is).
Someone else said it better than I have, that MLB needs to stand up for itself in situations like this.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Oct 15, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be ok with retaining umpires
if they actually made some attempt to be consistent and hold them accountable. Unfortunately, there is no system in place to accomplish either.
At the very least, the MLB should institute some sort of replay system to review safe/out calls and fair/foul calls to help correct for inevitable human error in these plays.
I would also be in favor of eliminating umpires to call balls and strikes. Using a computerized system to call balls and strikes would completely eliminate inconsistencies between umpires, and get rid of preferential treatment that name players get. Pitchers and hitters would be able to count on certain pitches being balls and certain pitches being strikes.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by maestro876 on Oct 14, 2009 3:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Robots can eradicate inconstencies between umps, but...
they cannot eradicate inconsistencies between each batter’s zone. You need to solve that inconsistency via robots or you simply moved the human factor from behind the plate to behind the computer keyboard. and your human inconsistencies will merely follow.
You too can be a baseball media analyst! Just don't allow your need to be wrong in public to get in the way of your ignorance.
by Stirrups on Oct 14, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's still entirely possible and not as complicated as it seems.
I would theorize that the zone doesn’t really change as much as people think. all MLB has to do is know the height of a particular player and an adjustment could be automatically made to that particular batter to accomodate the top and bottom of the strike zone, using the laws of averages. it would take the batters and pitchers all of one spring training to adjust to the new method, which would be much better than humans (95%+ for robots even using pretty simple methods (algorithms), vs. 90-92% on the high end of accuracy by humans)
and the zone should certainly never change to the left or right. so we’re merely talking up and down here.
robots baby!
"This is a guy who is a combination of great courage and, nuts!"- Steve Physioc
by Brian S (brianguy) on Oct 15, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game 3 start time is horrible especially on west coast
Its gonna be hard to watch it from work it sucks that a playoff game has to be that early of course MLB is too worried about ratings and money to worry about when a game should actually be played
Bring back Lackey
by Angelsrthebest101 on Oct 14, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I will record the game on the DVR, but I will be going nuts while it's being played and I'm sitting in a lecture hall
listening to a woman tell us how she makes porcelain horses. Of course, the porcelain horses that she makes are truly cool, but still. I think it lets out at 1:30, and my pottery teacher has told me I can switch the radio from K-EARTH to the game, but I know I won’t be able to hear much of what’s going on. I cut my other class in order to buy tickets to the ALDS game 1, but I can’t do that again.
I really need to find my Walkman.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Oct 14, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old school
+1
Captain, there are doubt's...
by Match Day 5 on Oct 15, 2009 5:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ditto, but not as bad...
I have a softball game at like 8:50 on Friday. this is the 2nd week in a row I have an Angels game overlapping ours (last week, game 2, missed the first 5 innings).
hopefully we’ll take care of the Yanks on Friday in 4 hours. if not, bring on the rain delay and let them make it up when I can watch!
"This is a guy who is a combination of great courage and, nuts!"- Steve Physioc
by Brian S (brianguy) on Oct 15, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last Friday we watched game 2 in a bar with a couple who had a similar problem. He said half the team he coaches didn't show up
at all for their game that afternoon because of the playoffs. This was in Blue Jay/Lake Arrowhead, so it’s a bit of a drive. Just getting down the hill into San Bernardino is a pain that can last as much as 30 minutes, and we’re talking about bucking the “leaving town for the weekend” traffic, which goes both directions.
The softball game must have overlapped the Angels game by at least an hour, because they showed up late in the second hour. I can’t remember their names but they have a son in the Dodgers minor league system, and they live in Orange so they are now dual fans.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
by opiejeanne on Oct 15, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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